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Re: New Classic Map

Postby Darkended Blade on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:13 pm

Twill wrote:Your posts are being merged to keep the discussion in one place, we're not deleting them, they're all here ;)

As for the classic map, we made the drastic changes to avoid any possible copyright violations.

Sorry for any inconvenience, happy conquering :)

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May i suggest a competition for players to redesign the map? I believe more than a few of us would like the current classic map to be changed if we are now unable to use the old.

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WTF? Why will this post only last 10 minutes???

Postby phantomzero on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:13 pm

What's up with deleting all the new posts about the changes to the maps???
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Re: New Classic Map

Postby Gold Knight on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:13 pm

Twill wrote:Your posts are being merged to keep the discussion in one place, we're not deleting them, they're all here ;)

As for the classic map, we made the drastic changes to avoid any possible copyright violations.

Sorry for any inconvenience, happy conquering :)

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So Hasbro has copyright on how the continents are shaped? Just becuase they put little plastic pieces on a flat globe first doesnt mean they are the only ones who have the right to what the world looks like...

Hasbro can shove it.
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Re: I hate the new Classic Map.

Postby foregone on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:13 pm

Reasonably sure this had nothing to do with the foundry. My guess is that CC had to make some changes in order to comply with copyright issues which arose. Que sera sera.
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby KoE_Sirius on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:13 pm

jiminski wrote:
Twill wrote:Sadly no joke.

We're all just going to have to live with this new setup I'm afraid. We did it to avoid any possible copyright violations. It's out of our hands.


Sorry to bring the bad news to everyone. But hey, new material for the map video contest...8 more hours to do something with the new maps :)
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i am utterly stunned by this response!

and it seems very unnusual that 'we have server problems' whenever you fart around with the site!

I'm incensed and can't believe you are being so flippant.

When is he not flippant?
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Re: WTF? Why will this post only last 10 minutes???

Postby jennifermarie on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

We aren't deleting posts, they are being merged into the Q+A thread about this topic.
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Re: I hate the new Classic Map.

Postby cyklone on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

There must be a way to design a better map that avoids copyright-Nazi's.

Maybe this was only temporary, until the community can work on a more visually friendly replacement?
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Re: WTF? Why will this post only last 10 minutes???

Postby phantomzero on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 pm

Thanks for the info!
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby littlebrother2k7 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

this is crap nothin but crap... why change something that you tried b4 and no one liked it
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby Timminz on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

The new "classic map" is the ugliest map I've ever seen. On top of that, they changed the bonuses! North America (or "N", as it's called now) is NOT worth a 7 army bonus. I am appalled at the new map. Please, please can't they do something to avoid copyright issues without destroying the best map here. Change the colours, change the names, change the look, but for the love of the game, please don't screw with the gameplay.

I feel like Robinette.
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Re: I hate the new Classic Map.

Postby william18 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:15 pm

samwisebrady wrote:why would you change the map? it was fine how it was.


Unless you wan't CC to be shut down, they had to change the map.
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby Colossus on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:16 pm

Ok, so the new 'classic' map is lame, and the middle earth map is screwed up. So what? they are two of what, forty maps? We've got lots to choose from, and if this is what it takes to keep CC around and ticking, so be it. I dig the new dice. Though the new terminology will take some getting used to! Spoils...:lol:
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Re: I hate the new Classic Map.

Postby laddida on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:16 pm

someone must of informed hasbro about this site, trying to ruin it. And its working i am currently dropping all classic map games im through with it.
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:16 pm

littlebrother2k7 wrote:this is crap nothin but crap... why change something that you tried b4 and no one liked it



You are severely missing the point of all this.
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby TheKidsTrumpet on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

Seriously... and the middle earth map? It's all confusing....
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So the dice can be fixed against you?

Postby Diamonds14 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

So the computer randomly assigns your guys an 'intensity level' so one battle your guys will fight like crap and another battle they can do amazingly well? There are no longer completely random dice? What are the levels based on.. if anything? If they have to be in placed (which i dont see why it has to be since dice are a common tool in games to get random numbers from 1-6) but if it has to be in placed why not base it on the amount of troops. If player X has 100 troops and Player Y has 5 the 100 should win fairly easy, instead of this randomness.. but i want it to be completely random.. fair chance for everyone. I really want to see these questions addressed.. this may determine if i continue my premium and/or if i even continuing playing CC.

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"You may now assault any opponent's region from one of yours, as long as both regions are adjacent and your assaulting region has a minimum of two troops. This part is optional in that you may choose not to assault anyone.

Each time combat is initiated, the game engine will generate a random intensity level for each troop involved. The outcome is determined by the intensity of the assaulting troops versus the intensity of the repelling troops. There are 6 possible intensity levels that may be assigned, listed here from weakest to strongest:

1. Pathetic
2. Sad
3. Decent
4. Strong
5. Awesome
6. Heroic

The more troops involved on either side, the better the chances that side has of winning. But not all troops in the regions are necessarily involved. To be more specific, the game engine will assigned a random intensity level for each assaulting troop, less 1 troop that stays behind, up to a maximum of 3 troops. Likewise, the game engine will assign a random intensity level for each repelling troop, up to a maximum of 2 troops.

The outcome of combat is determined by comparing the strongest intensity levels of either side. If the assault was stronger, then the repelling region loses a troop. If the repel was stronger or equal, than the assaulting region loses a troop. This process is repeated once more if other troops remain involved on both sides.

If you destroy all of the troops in your opponent's region, you will then have to occupy it right away by advancing some of your troops (but not all and at least 1) from your assaulting region to the conquered region. If you conquer a player's last region, (thus eliminating him/her from the game) the former opponent's spoils become yours!

During this part of your turn, you may assault any adjacent regions, as many times as possible, until you decide to stop. For example, you may assault one or more times from one region, switch to another region and then back to the original."
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

Timminz wrote:The new "classic map" is the ugliest map I've ever seen. On top of that, they changed the bonuses! North America (or "N", as it's called now) is NOT worth a 7 army bonus. I am appalled at the new map. Please, please can't they do something to avoid copyright issues without destroying the best map here. Change the colours, change the names, change the look, but for the love of the game, please don't screw with the gameplay.

I feel like Robinette.


The coding still shows it as 5. It's an error in the graphics, most likely.
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Classic & Centerscape? WTF is this?

Postby RjBeals on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

April Fools? Someone hack the site? Come on guys... wheres classic?
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby cpurcell on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm

THIS IS SH*T!!!! IF THIS ISN'T REVERSED, I'LL DEMAND A REFUND, AND QUIT!!!! WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE EVER LEAVE ANYTHING ALONE!!! YOU MEAN THAT YOU LOOKED AT THAT MAP, AND THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY WTH IT :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: REALLY? BECAUSE YOU SHOULD STUDY YOUR CUSTOMERS MORE, BECAUSE WE ALL HATE IT!!!!
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New Classic Map

Postby sbrylski on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 pm

Curious, how can anyone have a copyright claim on a map of the world?
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New map & Posts

Postby Deadly intent on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 pm

The new map sucks & my posts keep getting deleted! Has Hasbro got the copyright on these aswell?.....Im gutted,classic was my fav map by far
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Re: Crazy Maps And Dice?

Postby TheKidsTrumpet on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
littlebrother2k7 wrote:this is crap nothin but crap... why change something that you tried b4 and no one liked it



You are severely missing the point of all this.


Haha this is true. I really hope this take things to heart and can find a awesome compromise because the maps they added are very weird and confusing.
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Re: Robinette faints or retires?

Postby jaseleo on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:18 pm

No doubt this thread will be gone shortly, come on CC what has happened?? this is the best map it is the basis that the site was built on, are you saying that you cant change the odd thing you have to change it completely ??

I dont like the change and no doubt there will be many more
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classic map

Postby tyche73 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:19 pm

why change the classic map to the rubbish one you gave us you could have changed colours and names of countries instead???????????????
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Re: I hate the new Classic Map.

Postby Gold Knight on Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:19 pm

laddida wrote:someone must of informed hasbro about this site, trying to ruin it. And its working i am currently dropping all classic map games im through with it.


Same here, so much for taking Siam, now im taking a red block...
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