What to do?

[Agent 86]

Everytime you roll it is devastating, then your opponents roll and smash you. There is nothing you can do, some days the dice favour you although the pattern is hard to work out. In attack today with much larger forces I have been depleted with horrendous losses. Something is wrong when you lose 10 rolls in a row...20 troops gone ???? Game over. I know it is possible but it seems to be happening too much, what gives?

I'm starting to feel that strategy has nothing to do with it and it's all about luck. Risk wasn't designed this way or was it ? depressing to say the least.

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[maasman]

I'm thinking I stole your good dice yesterday, I was rolling pretty well and got 3 nice wins out of it to send me back to major

[Agent 86]

Now I'm happy, keep on rolling those good dice. I will battle it out and win with inferior dice.

86

[donkeymile]

I feel your pain ....

The worst is playing against a much lower rank, outstrategize and think you've got yourself set up and then the dice destroy you, while the opponents dice are near perfect - lose 50 points.

It does suck that strategy tends to play less a role often times. I find myself just stockpiling at times when I should strategically be attacking - but KNOWING my dice have been failing me, I must choose not to make the best move.

For me the worst part of this thing is the absolute streakiness of the dice .... if they weren't so streaky it'd be better, IMO. I don't mind getting raped by the dice but not consistently for days or weeks on end.

Anyway, good luck!!! Not much you can do ...

[AndyDufresne]

Maybe strategy should start to take into account the fickleness of the intensity cubes. Hm. More assaulting? More defending? Larger maps? No Spoils? Closing your eyes and thinking about four leaf clovers and other lucky items?

Probably the last one should do it.


--Andy

[Dako]

Andy, you forgot to advice to eat bananas during dice rolls.

[Foxglove]

[AndyDufresne]

Andy, you forgot to advice to eat bananas during dice rolls.

Quiet Dako! I can't give out all my super-secret-hardly-known-fairly-obvious techniques to everyone on Conquer Club!


--Andy

[TheForgivenOne]

Close your eyes, start clicking, and go "I think i can i think i can i think i can" And when you open your eyes, you shall be surprised... By nothing happening, as you didn't notice your mouse moving off the assault button

[obliterationX]

A quotation from KLOBBER's blog...

Factual information about the CC dice:

1. The dice are 100% non-random.

2. They are also 100% unpredictable, and these are two completely separate and distinct concepts.

3. If your brain lacks the necessary intelligence to comprehend that these are two wholly distinct concepts, then I truly pity you.

Details:

If you notice a pattern (or imagine that you notice one), then instead of complaining and suggesting a change in the dice, wouldn't the intelligent course of action be to take advantage of the pattern you see and others don't? That would give you an advantage over your opponents (if you're right about the pattern, that is).

Suppose, for the sake of argument, as a player once claimed, that territories with 2 or fewer armies withstand attack better than other territories. I have NOT noticed this pattern myself, and I'm sure most other players have NOT also. In this case, if you take this "chance" into account and favor other territories to attack, then you would, in theory, win a greater percentage of games. I mention this specific pattern because I think that it is a figment of the above-mentioned player's imagination, but it serves its purpose as an example.

If you find a pattern that is predictable, then keep quiet about it and use it to your advantage. If not, then accept the unpredictability of the dice as being fair to everyone.

All faith in "chance," "randomness," and "luck" is very unscientific and unintelligent, and doesn't apply to the reality of the dice. Your faith in these concepts is 100% whimsical and sentimental, and is not backed by any scientific evidence. The patterns that the dice manifest are produced scientifically, not by superstitious, mythological beliefs like "luck."

If you do your research on the CC dice intelligently, as I have, then you will find that from the first step to the last, the patterns that they manifest are strictly controlled and designed at every point along the way. There is no single step in the process that produces the dice patterns that includes any miniscule element of "randomness" at all -- absolutely ZERO. All the processes that the patterns undergo are 100% by design, without as much as a single exception, right down the line, from beginning to end.

Design, by definition, is 100% non-random.

The fact that they are designed does not mean that the patterns are predictable; in fact they are not predictable, but they are certainly not random: they are absolutely not random in the least bit. They are unpredictable BY DESIGN, not by "randomness."

If you talk out your ass without doing the necessary research first, as most people who post in the CC forum seem to behave, then your lack of intelligence speaks for itself.

We are not cavemen. Such foolish concepts as "luck," "chance," and "randomness" are outdated myths, and none of them exist outside your overly fertile imagination.

Develop the intelligence to comprehend these facts, and behave accordingly.

http://klobber-upyours.blogspot.com/

[jefjef]

Close your eyes, start clicking, and go "I think i can i think i can i think i can" And when you open your eyes, you shall be surprised... By nothing happening, as you didn't notice your mouse moving off the assault button

I've witnessed your close your eyes tactics. We lost the game remember? It was to AoG. The worse dice roller on the site.

[Eyestone]

Andy, you forgot to advice to eat bananas during dice rolls.

Quiet Dako! I can't give out all my super-secret-hardly-known-fairly-obvious techniques to everyone on Conquer Club!


--Andy

Aha So this is the secret on how to obtain a sergeants rank? I should have known you were using dirty tricks...

[AndyDufresne]

I'm on the move up, Eyestone. Watch yourself.


--Andy

[jimboston]

I have an idea.

Start a new dice-bitch thread!

... oh wait, you just did that.

[Leehar]

I've realized that it's important to assault instead of auto-assault, specially when it's a large amount against a relatively small amount. 12 vs 4, 8vs3 etc. Only when it's 70 against 50 is it more feasible to auto-assault, even then it's not unusual for someone to be left with 3vs16 but It's quite difficult to continue assault 30, 40 times.
However the main reason I recommend assault (specially for those numbers previously mentioned), is that it's a lot more similar to real life. Wherein, you hold the dice in your hand and move them around praying for the next roll to be good (At least thats what I do, tho I suspect others may be similar as well.) I know there's a huge habit of blowing on dice as well. So I just feel that assault is similar to that, you just perhaps give the system to regenerate and become truly random. With auto-assault it's severely unlikely that someone will just throw 50 dice repeatedly, I think it's just human nature to stop, slow down when there are bad rolls coming.
I know there have been previous comments about the benefits of auto-assault compared to normal assault, but I hope I've given a different outlook to it. I'd still like to see some of the discussions about them, so if anyone has links to any, I'd appreciate it.

And btw also, I've been curious to note, that why scenarios where a person attacking with 56 armies, to say someone with 60/65, that he should ever be left with a situation of 3 vs 16? It's basically a scenario of 168 dices against 130 so I don't really know why such a huge differential can be overcome, tho I admit the tie's do give some advantage to the defender. I've seen some stats before about different dice rolls, so I'd like to see some of those regarding this.

I'm on the move up, Eyestone. Watch yourself.


--Andy

From farming all the whac-a-holics?

[Agent 86]

Thankyou to the replies, I will now shut my eyes and roll..think I can, think I can..that with the comedic posts of you guys made my day. My dice are so much better now. With eyes closed I roll like the devil,

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[Woodruff]

I'm starting to feel that strategy has nothing to do with it and it's all about luck. Risk wasn't designed this way or was it?

I've always felt that even the board game was very heavily dependent on luck. I mean, this ain't Chess...or even Stratego.

[Leehar]

Thankyou to the replies, I will now shut my eyes and roll..think I can, think I can..that with the comedic posts of you guys made my day. My dice are so much better now. With eyes closed I roll like the devil,

86

I'm telling you, it really happens!

[TheForgivenOne]

Close your eyes, start clicking, and go "I think i can i think i can i think i can" And when you open your eyes, you shall be surprised... By nothing happening, as you didn't notice your mouse moving off the assault button

I've witnessed your close your eyes tactics. We lost the game remember? It was to AoG. The worse dice roller on the site.

Oi! He stole my Canadian dice and you gave me your crappy American dice in that game. Plus that bug on the wall was tripping me out

[Master Fenrir]

Agent, when the dice are getting you down, I suggest you open a bottle of sake, turn on some Modern Warfare 2, and laugh at all the ignorant crap the other people spout while you destroy them. It works for me every time.

[army of nobunaga]

Everytime you roll it is devastating, then your opponents roll and smash you. There is nothing you can do, some days the dice favour you although the pattern is hard to work out. In attack today with much larger forces I have been depleted with horrendous losses. Something is wrong when you lose 10 rolls in a row...20 troops gone ???? Game over. I know it is possible but it seems to be happening too much, what gives?

I'm starting to feel that strategy has nothing to do with it and it's all about luck. Risk wasn't designed this way or was it ? depressing to say the least.

86

what to do? friggin leave.. so Im not tempted to waste 1 min reading this crap again.

[AndyDufresne]

Yeah, friggin, spriggin, griggin, sliggin, piggin leave. Rubbish. Junk. Waste-bin-refuse. Non-recyclable-materials.


--Andy