hi who has the power to unlock this

[eddie2]

please view

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=118039&start=15

ks has asked for a response of proof that i was about to put in but he locked the thread can somone unlock it so i can respond please.

[sherkaner]

Why don't you just PM him? That would make it easier.

[eddie2]

Why don't you just PM him? That would make it easier.

because he knows what he done and is covering it up trying to make me look daft. quoting the wrong player to the one i was going on about.

[lord voldemort]

i locked it...
simply because it was a closed report and the topic you were posting about wasnt on topic with the thread...it wont be unlocked....
Pm ks...he always loves pms

[eddie2]

lol how did i know you were gonna say that ok where did i go off topic

i was quoting another case (this happenens all the time

[url]
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=117126&start=30[/url]

i called the player by his first name and did not highlight it in my other posts which if ks had read it he would of know the player i was going on about. which he more than likly did. but seen an escape route by this name being a player by himself.

he then states that all are dealt with the same where in the above thread it shows not true.

[lord voldemort]

lol u went off topic by talking about another case...
nothign is going to change the outcome of the thread that was locked...it served its purpose...move on

[king sam]

please view

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=118039&start=15

ks has asked for a response of proof that i was about to put in but he locked the thread can somone unlock it so i can respond please.

Subject: x|RealitySlave [Busted]

asterix
liar he was active in games 2 weeks ago when he was busted

provide the game number and i will gladly take your side on the subject

PM me the proof...Or post it here, I dont care. There is no proof I looked myself at the 32 games that player asterix was in and your not one of them are played in 2008, 2009 or 2010. The player was Busted as a multi back in 2007 and hasnt been on the site since then. So I would say to research your facts before you go spouting stuff off, especially if your going to call someone a liar on it.
And LV locked it for obvious reasons that he has stated.

lol how did i know you were gonna say that ok where did i go off topic
i was quoting another case (this happenens all the time
[url]
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=117126&start=30[/url]
i called the player by his first name and did not highlight it in my other posts which if ks had read it he would of know the player i was going on about. which he more than likly did. but seen an escape route by this name being a player by himself.

he then states that all are dealt with the same where in the above thread it shows not true.

Its fine and dandy to quote another topic to help highlight a point of a given thread. But you drudge up old threads that have no point in the current topic and you do this just to push your own agenda of how things arent handled fairly.
You have done it again in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=117994&start=15&p=2609106&view=show#p2609106
This is trolling. I have informed you of it and continuation of doing this will get you in trouble. keep it up.

[eddie2]

ks the thread where i called you a liar was if you look through the thread you will see the asterix was

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=117126&start=30

please go to the link to see it ok we have had a muddle up on the player i was talking about but i will appologise for that but

in this thread above you have a player called asterix who has had multis before on site. who has been busted again (2 weeks ago)

(please forgive me if the 2 players were not busted as multis together as one and the same. but it didnt have the ussual busted plus 1 and busted plus2)

and in your own words in this thread rules state that him and his multis should be guested.(again disision was made so op could apeal if he wanted to bother)

but instead his multi gets to stay active (name change)for a multi player.(that jefjef brought into the equasion that he was a map maker so leave it that he counters this in another thread today because its happened to him)

ok this thread was brought up in a dualty case which i was giving him this to use to try get back as long as there was a promise to only use one account and tell you all other accounts he had(to save you work every week)

right the new one you are saying i was trolling in

you brought up a site abuse charge (this is not listed on the formand by the way you say it is abusing glitchs in the system)and not all c and a mods no about this

so the case i put forward in that thread was one of somone abusing a glitch in the system that i was involved in (not asking for a change of dissision because has been made that is done with.)

i am also giving a sug in that thread for c and a mods to maybe all work together but nominate one person to give punishments out(this is because all people see things differently) and this will help with people like myself questioning the result (i am not the only one that does this)

also i said that if wrong admit it we all make mistakes but since the form says view previous cases(not everybody does)if a rare mistake is made it will stop others from reporting it(this means more people pi';ed off because of it) i hope this explains what i was saying if not please pm me and i will explain it properly.

yours faithfully


eddie2

[king sam]

I really cant clearly understand what you are talking about here.

You have claimed 2 different users are getting away with stuff here. In one thread it was the asterix account which hasnt been an active member since 2007 (which was the one you said I was lying about) and the other thread its the AsterixLeGaulois account which is totally seperate from the asterix account.

LV & myself explained the proceedings of the AsterixLeGaulois account to you to the best of our ability.
He was a premium along with the other account that he was accused of for violation of rule #1 (more than 1 account)
He was found Guilty at that time and Busted. Since both members were Premium they were both turned to Freemy accounts. After that the decision went through to Guest one of them. The AsterixLeGaulois account. And that was that. Everything else with this case was/is being handled via E-Tickets. E-Tickets are not public therefor all decisions/transactions that happens in them are not informed to the public. So you can pretty much count that something has changed on an account after it was handled in C&A then there was more evidence or other circumstances that came up via an E-Ticket to change the status of whatever it was.

The process of Multi accounts has been explained.
If your a premium member you will become Freemium and Warned not to do this again as it could get you website banned and all your Busted accounts are Guested forever. I say could because there are circumstances that can dictate otherwise. For instance say your original account was subject to personal information abuse, someone leaked info about you and your CC handle. This could be grounds to continue on the site under a different alias. Thats why this is a could happen and not a shall.

Continued vioaltions of any rule will get you booted from the site. Should be self explanatory that a site used for joyous gaming doesnt want players who only cause chaos.

Now if your a freemium player and your Busted the only way to get back in is to buy back in through the original account or create more multis and continue down the road of never having a legit gaming experience here without having to constantly watch your back from getting caught. Ask your buddy duality about that lifestyle choice.

That is the simpliest way i can explain on how we handle dual account violators. Is there more to it then this, of course, every situation is different and every situation is handled the best that it can with the proof that we have at the time and the guidleines that govern us. Because something is viewed as different then what the norm says does not mean that we are operating unfairly in the ruling, it means there was something else there that came to light that we analyzed, recognized and handled apporpiately.

As I have said you will not know nor see all that goes on. This is an effort to protect privacy. Even an offender of the rules should have the oppurtunity to rebound from it and enjoy themselves here. This would be treated the same for you.

And as stated many times everyone is subject to following the rules. Map Makers, Hunters, Chatter, everyone. No one got off because they were a map maker. Obviously this is one of those times that you are not informed of everything that went on for those privacy issues.

On to other things:
Trolling is de-railing a subject to bring light to a different cause over several different threads. You have done this in numerous threads, posted material on how you think things are not handled in the same manner between non volunteers and volunteers when the thread had nothing to do about this. That is off topicing threads and when it is done in every other thread then it is trolling. My advice as it has always been was to discuss this either in an appropriate thread or via PM with the right person(s). But if your going to do this then you should be well informed of what your lobbying for. And unfortunatley I dont think your well informed on the matter of us allowing a map maker to get away with making multis and regular site players getting punished for it. Everyone is treated the same.

Suggs belong in the sugg forum, but since you have brought it up. Nominating 1 player to hand out every decision imo wouldnt do anything but back log C&A. We all deliberate on most cases and all come to a unified conclusion before it goes out. 1 person as the face of the decision wont change whats already and will continue to happen. It will only allow cases to sit in C&A waiting for that 1 person to finish that work load. Whether you want to see it or not every case is handled as per the guidelines and is standard. Of course you see a difference on a decision as non standardization when in reality it is there is more to it then you are allowed to know.

We are human we make mistakes. From what I have seen we own up to them. Just because you dont see it doesnt mean it hasnt happened.

Hopefully this clarifies things for you. I gotta go catch my flight. Pm me and I will respond in a few days if it hasnt

KS

[eddie2]

I really cant clearly understand what you are talking about here.

You have claimed 2 different users are getting away with stuff here. In one thread it was the asterix account which hasnt been an active member since 2007 (which was the one you said I was lying about) and the other thread its the AsterixLeGaulois account which is totally seperate from the asterix account.

LV & myself explained the proceedings of the AsterixLeGaulois account to you to the best of our ability.
He was a premium along with the other account that he was accused of for violation of rule #1 (more than 1 account)
He was found Guilty at that time and Busted. Since both members were Premium they were both turned to Freemy accounts. After that the decision went through to Guest one of them. The AsterixLeGaulois account. And that was that. Everything else with this case was/is being handled via E-Tickets. E-Tickets are not public therefor all decisions/transactions that happens in them are not informed to the public. So you can pretty much count that something has changed on an account after it was handled in C&A then there was more evidence or other circumstances that came up via an E-Ticket to change the status of whatever it was.

The process of Multi accounts has been explained.
If your a premium member you will become Freemium and Warned not to do this again as it could get you website banned and all your Busted accounts are Guested forever. I say could because there are circumstances that can dictate otherwise. For instance say your original account was subject to personal information abuse, someone leaked info about you and your CC handle. This could be grounds to continue on the site under a different alias. Thats why this is a could happen and not a shall.

Continued vioaltions of any rule will get you booted from the site. Should be self explanatory that a site used for joyous gaming doesnt want players who only cause chaos.

Now if your a freemium player and your Busted the only way to get back in is to buy back in through the original account or create more multis and continue down the road of never having a legit gaming experience here without having to constantly watch your back from getting caught. Ask your buddy duality about that lifestyle choice.

That is the simpliest way i can explain on how we handle dual account violators. Is there more to it then this, of course, every situation is different and every situation is handled the best that it can with the proof that we have at the time and the guidleines that govern us. Because something is viewed as different then what the norm says does not mean that we are operating unfairly in the ruling, it means there was something else there that came to light that we analyzed, recognized and handled apporpiately.

As I have said you will not know nor see all that goes on. This is an effort to protect privacy. Even an offender of the rules should have the oppurtunity to rebound from it and enjoy themselves here. This would be treated the same for you.

And as stated many times everyone is subject to following the rules. Map Makers, Hunters, Chatter, everyone. No one got off because they were a map maker. Obviously this is one of those times that you are not informed of everything that went on for those privacy issues.

On to other things:
Trolling is de-railing a subject to bring light to a different cause over several different threads. You have done this in numerous threads, posted material on how you think things are not handled in the same manner between non volunteers and volunteers when the thread had nothing to do about this. That is off topicing threads and when it is done in every other thread then it is trolling. My advice as it has always been was to discuss this either in an appropriate thread or via PM with the right person(s). But if your going to do this then you should be well informed of what your lobbying for. And unfortunatley I dont think your well informed on the matter of us allowing a map maker to get away with making multis and regular site players getting punished for it. Everyone is treated the same.

Suggs belong in the sugg forum, but since you have brought it up. Nominating 1 player to hand out every decision imo wouldnt do anything but back log C&A. We all deliberate on most cases and all come to a unified conclusion before it goes out. 1 person as the face of the decision wont change whats already and will continue to happen. It will only allow cases to sit in C&A waiting for that 1 person to finish that work load. Whether you want to see it or not every case is handled as per the guidelines and is standard. Of course you see a difference on a decision as non standardization when in reality it is there is more to it then you are allowed to know.

We are human we make mistakes. From what I have seen we own up to them. Just because you dont see it doesnt mean it hasnt happened.

Hopefully this clarifies things for you. I gotta go catch my flight. Pm me and I will respond in a few days if it hasnt

KS

have pmed you about this first line of bust


Re: AsterixLeGaulois and Raskholnikov [busted] lv


ok hear is how it played out

main premium account AsterixLeGaulois (first one opened)
has been busted before this time stripped and guested

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=96313&p=2202697&hilit=AsterixLeGaulois#p2200739

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93421&start=0&hilit=AsterixLeGaulois#p2142268

Raskholnikov his multi this time stripped and allowd to stay(but what you are
saying above contridictes this)(also jefjef uusing excuse hes a good map maker to allow it

im done cant put this any other way

[jefjef]

I really have to wonder about the whole point of this thread.



As had been explained numerous times the normal and regular procedure is for multi's to be allowed back in on their 1st/earliest account.

There are/has been a couple recent "special circumstance's" multi busts that it was decided to allow the newest account. They happen to have been preemium busts.

But who really cares and does it really matter as long as they are allowed to have only ONE account?

As for Rask specifically I see you like to twist things. If he was forced to use the earlier account HE WOULD STILL BE HERE.

So your real issue is the username thats allowed to stay?

Perma-FOE earned.

BYE.

[eddie2]

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