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Bruceswar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm wrote:We all had tons of men..
kentington wrote:This is simple in my opinion.
If you like this friend so much play team games. Yes, people do get upset when friends continue to play in 8 player games with each other. Also, I notice you refer to each other by color as if you don't know each other. I understand wanting to play with people you know, but that can be done as team, 1v1 or a group of 8 that you know. This is unfair to the other players who thought this wasn't a team game.
kentington wrote:This is simple in my opinion.
If you like this friend so much play team games. Yes, people do get upset when friends continue to play in 8 player games with each other. Also, I notice you refer to each other by color as if you don't know each other. I understand wanting to play with people you know, but that can be done as team, 1v1 or a group of 8 that you know. This is unfair to the other players who thought this wasn't a team game.
Kiron wrote:I believe I already mentioned that this deal was a mistaken understanding of the rules based on falling victim to this in many past games.
xiangwang wrote:here was another that kiron posted earlier
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=10501692
kiron also disagreed with the decisions of the other players, but they went ahead and played an outside game to decide the winner claiming it was legal.
Kiron wrote:kentington wrote:This is simple in my opinion.
If you like this friend so much play team games. Yes, people do get upset when friends continue to play in 8 player games with each other. Also, I notice you refer to each other by color as if you don't know each other. I understand wanting to play with people you know, but that can be done as team, 1v1 or a group of 8 that you know. This is unfair to the other players who thought this wasn't a team game.
1.I believe I already mentioned that this deal was a mistaken understanding of the rules based on falling victim to this in many past games. Thanks jsynder748 for your kind defence.2. I only came back to play from retirement because xiangwang (he was getting bored) wanted me to play against him to spice up his games. 3.We dislike teams mostly because the points win rate is too long compared to loss rates given our rank. It's been seen from our past logs that we can play fine without each other in games (of course it makes sense that our mutual win rate may increase when we play freestyle together, just add our two base chance of winning together).4. But that's like saying MC and I can't play games together because the chance of our win rate together increases.5. I usually tend to always refer to people by colour as it's more formal in playing risk (just a habit), unless the game state becomes more personal (aka I want this player X killed).6. And it is not a team game, we BOTH play to win, it's not like xiangwang is helping me win this game and i will help him win the next. We BOTH WANT to win.
Now regarding that deal. I understand that you are angry at the single game, it was just a mistaken understanding of the rules based on past experience of being victim to it believing it was legal.
Bruceswar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm wrote:We all had tons of men..
kentington wrote:Kiron wrote:kentington wrote:This is simple in my opinion.
If you like this friend so much play team games. Yes, people do get upset when friends continue to play in 8 player games with each other. Also, I notice you refer to each other by color as if you don't know each other. I understand wanting to play with people you know, but that can be done as team, 1v1 or a group of 8 that you know. This is unfair to the other players who thought this wasn't a team game.
1.I believe I already mentioned that this deal was a mistaken understanding of the rules based on falling victim to this in many past games. Thanks jsynder748 for your kind defence.2. I only came back to play from retirement because xiangwang (he was getting bored) wanted me to play against him to spice up his games. 3.We dislike teams mostly because the points win rate is too long compared to loss rates given our rank. It's been seen from our past logs that we can play fine without each other in games (of course it makes sense that our mutual win rate may increase when we play freestyle together, just add our two base chance of winning together).4. But that's like saying MC and I can't play games together because the chance of our win rate together increases.5. I usually tend to always refer to people by colour as it's more formal in playing risk (just a habit), unless the game state becomes more personal (aka I want this player X killed).6. And it is not a team game, we BOTH play to win, it's not like xiangwang is helping me win this game and i will help him win the next. We BOTH WANT to win.
Now regarding that deal. I understand that you are angry at the single game, it was just a mistaken understanding of the rules based on past experience of being victim to it believing it was legal.
First of all, I am not angry. The OP wanted opinions on the matter. I gave mine and I backed it up with good arguments.
1. If you fell victim* to this in the past, then why didn't you report it? *Doesn't the use of the word victim suggest someone wronged? If you felt wronged, then why would you consider it "ok" to continue this type of behavior.
2. If the only reason you came back was to save xiangwang from boredom, then team games would be a good way to play with each other. 1v1 is another option. The behavior in that game suggests that you were playing together.
3. Oh, I thought you only came back for entertainment with xiangwang not points?
4. I am saying that in 8 player versus, you should not be playing with anyone, but against everyone. Yes there is diplomacy, but it seemed that right from the get go you guys were in an alliance.
5. It may be the way you always play, but that doesn't make it less deceitful.
6. You both play to have one of you win. That is the complaint. It is not so much that he is throwing every game so you can get your rank up. It is the fact that by playing together and working together you are trying to ensure that the winner is your or him and not the other 6 players. If you need me to clarify this I can.
One thing you have not talked about but others have brought up is that you take your turns and end turns in ways that benefit you both. Beginning and ending at the same time. This sounds like outside planning to me. It could just be coincidence, but when all of the other things in this post add up it seems intentional.
Squirly wrote:No need for this thread.
From what I can tell, the majority of people on this site are convinced that the only way to reach the level of conqueror is to cheat. Also, all those that have been conqueror are clearly mean and evil people.
why not just immediately ban players the very moment they reach #1 on the scoreboard?
That would solve things for everyone, right?
Squirly wrote:No need for this thread.
From what I can tell, the majority of people on this site are convinced that the only way to reach the level of conqueror is to cheat. Also, all those that have been conqueror are clearly mean and evil people.
why not just immediately ban players the very moment they reach #1 on the scoreboard?
That would solve things for everyone, right?
Rodion wrote:Still curious:
"at which moment is the rule broken?"
qwert wrote:hmm,i just read game chats, and in one moment i get impression that i read team game chat, kiron and xiangwei speak so free abouth positions and what to attack,what to block, who what bonuse to take,where to play , like these its not fog game,
in these game 12395303 , i have impresion that red and light blue create some sharade for blue player, and give hem to play role like he its importan part of game, and in end light blue take suprisse how he hold objective? Like he dont know abouth that?
I dont understand these strategy? with 196 wins become conqueror? what are lowest number of win for Conqueror?
AslanTheKing wrote:Rodion wrote:Still curious:
"at which moment is the rule broken?"
The rule was broken before the game even started.
Rodion wrote:AslanTheKing wrote:Rodion wrote:Still curious:
"at which moment is the rule broken?"
The rule was broken before the game even started.
Why exactly? Because they are friends in real life?
Bruceswar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm wrote:We all had tons of men..
Rodion wrote:AslanTheKing wrote:Rodion wrote:Still curious:
"at which moment is the rule broken?"
The rule was broken before the game even started.
Why exactly? Because they are friends in real life?
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