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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:57 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:bored :/


unvote vote x-stor-x

I have never played with you before. My first instinct was that you would disappear.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby MoB Deadly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:02 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:bored :/


Expect this game to go well into April... This site promotes activity of once every 24 hours, and not to say every user checks mafia each time they log in to take turns.

Some people will be active, and some will be slower... That will not really attribute to their scumminess.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:17 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:bored :/


unvote vote x-stor-x

I have never played with you before. My first instinct was that you would disappear.



care to elaborate?
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:20 pm

Xtor, if you re already bored maybe we could pressure you to make a claim, maybe we ll get somewhere.. :lol:
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:30 pm

keep up that scummy line of questioning

why not post some opinions of your own.

tbh, it would be great if people actually started to post opinions with their votes, or cases or anything.


playing mafia with vote unvote vote is quite boring.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby nagerous on Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:47 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:keep up that scummy line of questioning

why not post some opinions of your own.

tbh, it would be great if people actually started to post opinions with their votes, or cases or anything.


playing mafia with vote unvote vote is quite boring.


Opinions on what? Nothing exactly has happened. Mafia is a slow moving game, the scuminess will soon out themselves.

FOS yourself though for being impatient, mafia are typically more impatient than town during the day as they want to get on with the killing at night :twisted:
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:11 pm

lol, I've been called impatient many times and you just don't know what you signed up for stor :lol:
there are always a few players that disapear for a few days, a game like this lasts at least 2 month, and day 1 is always a pain in the ass to start moving. there is rarely anything to start with on day 1 obviously... people lynch on a luck based gut feeling...

hey nag; you didn't answer. you had a breaking bad mafia prepared as well? given that this one has started i guess you will never do the one you started preparing?
could be interesting if you could tell us how you thought of your settings. there are different shades of good and bad in the show, and after all walt, the main character makes a trip from good to bad throughout all the show.. since it's an official game I expect some very unique mechanisms, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby rishaed on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:48 pm

betiko wrote:lol, I've been called impatient many times and you just don't know what you signed up for stor :lol:
there are always a few players that disapear for a few days, a game like this lasts at least 2 month, and day 1 is always a pain in the ass to start moving. there is rarely anything to start with on day 1 obviously... people lynch on a luck based gut feeling...

hey nag; you didn't answer. you had a breaking bad mafia prepared as well? given that this one has started i guess you will never do the one you started preparing?
could be interesting if you could tell us how you thought of your settings. there are different shades of good and bad in the show, and after all walt, the main character makes a trip from good to bad throughout all the show.. since it's an official game I expect some very unique mechanisms, but maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah, D1 is a given shoot in the dark, considering the fact that no one has any useful information yet. The scum don't have hints on power roles, and the town don't have any useful night information. I don't remember who said it, but what alignment do you thing Walt is? I don't know the series really well, and from what was said earlier parts have been changed by the mod. Also posting usually is somewhat slower than RT (hahaha of course) to give people time to input. Also unvote, I'm moving more into serious topics so the joke vote needs to go.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby cooldeals on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:02 pm

I've never watched this tv show before so I'm dependent on Wikipedia here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_characters

Based on what I'm reading Walter White seems the hardest role to pin. If he is really the shows protagonist based mostly on the redeeming factor of trying to make a living for his family he could be some kind of town, but wikipedia also says he's a drug kingpin which sounds like mafia. This show seems like it has a rather complex plot which should be interesting. If anyone has more basic summaries that watches the show I'd be interested to hear it. Otherwise, I'll just skim wikipedia for now.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:07 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:bored :/


unvote vote x-stor-x

I have never played with you before. My first instinct was that you would disappear.



care to elaborate?


Sure.

I have never played with you before. Your name is completely new and unfamiliar to me here in our mafia forums. More often then not new peeps will sign up and disappear. For you to come on and say "your bored" irks me to some extent. So my vote while a joke vote, as there is no case to lynch you, is also a way to make it known that you are being watched.

We cant have new folk to CC mafia bored now can we??
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:16 pm

Well, it kind of depends on how strike made his intrigue.. Is this about season 1 or the whole show?
I ve seen the whole show but don t really remember how walter stands at the en of season 1.
Walter is basically a character that lets himself do more and more questionable stuff legally and ethically just with the excuse of leaving a money legacy to his family given that he has cancer and might not be there for too long.
Jesse is a guy with a much bigger sense of right and wrong, he always wants to do good but always finds a way to f*ck up. These 2 main characters keep on befriending each other and reconciliating. I have no idea how all this can be translated into alignments. Definitely not a simple town vs mafia, too many shades of grey here.

Guys, can you mention if you ve watched the show? Just to know from the start.

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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:18 pm

cooldeals wrote:I've never watched this tv show before so I'm dependent on Wikipedia here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Breaking_Bad_characters

Based on what I'm reading Walter White seems the hardest role to pin. If he is really the shows protagonist based mostly on the redeeming factor of trying to make a living for his family he could be some kind of town, but wikipedia also says he's a drug kingpin which sounds like mafia. This show seems like it has a rather complex plot which should be interesting. If anyone has more basic summaries that watches the show I'd be interested to hear it. Otherwise, I'll just skim wikipedia for now.


Don't let that fool you. The good guys "Town" will be Walter/Jesse plus his allies. It also depends if season one will overlap into season two. The Mafia will most likely be Crazy 8 and his cousin as they were the lowest level drug dealers that walter and jesse first crossed. Then it was Tuco.

With 18 players we will have to see. I can see a third party faction in Walters brother in law and his DEA coworkers, which would make sense. Perhaps it will be walter faction, crazy 8 faction, DEA faction.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:20 pm

So you see this as just a season 1 thing IB? No Gus and the hermanos pollo stuff?
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:27 pm

I have seen the series up until about mid-5th season, I got bored then.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby MoB Deadly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:28 pm

Ive never seen the show, but I kinda know the premise of it.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:38 pm

i think IB might be right... this is possibly justabout season 1... strike made an extensive description of episode 1.. if this was about the whole show he would probably not have gone into so much details..
my problem is that I saw season 1 3-4 years ago so I barely remember it..
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:52 pm

betiko wrote:i think IB might be right... this is possibly justabout season 1... strike made an extensive description of episode 1.. if this was about the whole show he would probably not have gone into so much details..
my problem is that I saw season 1 3-4 years ago so I barely remember it..


I never ever watched the show until the last season. All the Hoopla.

I tried to speed watch it from season one till the end but I was not sure what episodes to watch or what was important...then I said screw it. I loved the show finally..it was perfect.

Now i watch it at my leisure. Trying to watch it for the drama and characters instead of the confrontations. Yesterday I was watching "Peek a Boo" You ever think of doing Meth...this is a must watch episode.

But ya....my opinion Crazy 8 ..perhaps Tuco are mafia faction...maybe both.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:00 pm

crap i don't remember these guys lol... i remember a scene where walt goes to visit a meth kingpin and kind of threatens him with some powder that looked like drug but was in fact an explosive..
or these guys that are melted in the bathtub... was that season 1 or 2?

so you speedwatch skipping parts and episodes then watch it again? ewww what awhat to spoil yourself the show.. :D
anyway... are the people who didn't watch the show ok with us spoiling whatever? because it's a good show, and I know I personally hate spoilers...
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:06 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:I have seen the series up until about mid-5th season, I got bored then.



Vote: IamCaffeine...

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@x-stor-x..... I like you, guy... Someone else that is as big of a douche as I am!

@Nagerous.... You voted me? Why, Gus Fring??? I mean... You aren't Gus.... That was a lie!

A LIE!
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:28 pm

a lot of setup talk
are these kind of games(themed) always correlate from characters in the show to alignment in mafia?

or could the setup be random, in which characters we would think to be town are scum, or vise versa.
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby strike wolf on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:36 pm

I stuck with the first episode for the scene because those scenes show the basis of the plot. Always cautious brilliant chemistry teacher who is on thin ice financially and has to work a second job that he hates with a family who would never believe he was capable of even properly bluffing in poker, finds out he has inoperable lung cancer and could have as little as two months to live. Knowing he has no time left and needing the money for his family (there are other factors but those become clearer later on), he goes on the crazy route of becoming a meth cook and with his knowledge of crystallography quickly starts to produce the purest meth around. I didn't want to go too far into the series because then I might include a spoiler that I didn't intend to.

The flavor is mostly from Seasons 1-4 though there are some from season 5. As far as spoilers, I tried to make it so that they wouldn't be necessary beyond basic character facts that are easily obtainable without major spoilers. Flavor knowledge of the show certainly helps but shouldn't be absolutely necessary. So I would say just to be cautious, don't put in any spoilers that aren't immediately necessary for the case you are making which as I said I don't think there should be much need. Perhaps use spoiler tags if it's anything that's important plot wise to the show. As far as the make up of the game, it is a little bit simplified from how it would be in the show simply because there was no way I could balance all of the possible mechanics with the number of players I was hoping to use (not to mention if I included every possible mechanic, it would start showing evidence of serious spoilers). That's about all I can say without giving away too much. I mean you know what mobsters and drug kingpins do to people who talk too much or betray the family or the husband who beat the mafia boss' sister...or try to sleep with the sister of the kingpin that the kingpin has incestuous urges for. I've been watching too many Al Pacino movies lately...
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:37 pm

nagerous wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:keep up that scummy line of questioning

why not post some opinions of your own.

tbh, it would be great if people actually started to post opinions with their votes, or cases or anything.


playing mafia with vote unvote vote is quite boring.


Opinions on what? Nothing exactly has happened. Mafia is a slow moving game, the scuminess will soon out themselves.

FOS yourself though for being impatient, mafia are typically more impatient than town during the day as they want to get on with the killing at night :twisted:



excesses for lack of trying/input isn't a good start
one could say that looks pretty scummy.

also FOS all you want on me for driving the game forward, if that turns into discussion im fine with that
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby pancakemix on Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:54 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:a lot of setup talk
are these kind of games(themed) always correlate from characters in the show to alignment in mafia?

or could the setup be random, in which characters we would think to be town are scum, or vise versa.


That depends on the mod. I expect this game to be fairly splintered, especially considering the Cartel/Fring conflict that develops later in the series, with Walter being a wild card of sorts.

Your "bored" comments were off-putting at first, but they're creating discussion and that seems to be your intent. I could get on your case but I can absolutely get behind what you're doing.

On an unrelated note, I'm gonna leave this here (spoilers abound).
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:03 pm

strike wolf wrote:I stuck with the first episode for the scene because those scenes show the basis of the plot. Always cautious brilliant chemistry teacher who is on thin ice financially and has to work a second job that he hates with a family who would never believe he was capable of even properly bluffing in poker, finds out he has inoperable lung cancer and could have as little as two months to live. Knowing he has no time left and needing the money for his family (there are other factors but those become clearer later on), he goes on the crazy route of becoming a meth cook and with his knowledge of crystallography quickly starts to produce the purest meth around. I didn't want to go too far into the series because then I might include a spoiler that I didn't intend to.

The flavor is mostly from Seasons 1-4 though there are some from season 5. As far as spoilers, I tried to make it so that they wouldn't be necessary beyond basic character facts that are easily obtainable without major spoilers. Flavor knowledge of the show certainly helps but shouldn't be absolutely necessary. So I would say just to be cautious, don't put in any spoilers that aren't immediately necessary for the case you are making which as I said I don't think there should be much need. Perhaps use spoiler tags if it's anything that's important plot wise to the show. As far as the make up of the game, it is a little bit simplified from how it would be in the show simply because there was no way I could balance all of the possible mechanics with the number of players I was hoping to use (not to mention if I included every possible mechanic, it would start showing evidence of serious spoilers). That's about all I can say without giving away too much. I mean you know what mobsters and drug kingpins do to people who talk too much or betray the family or the husband who beat the mafia boss' sister...or try to sleep with the sister of the kingpin that the kingpin has incestuous urges for. I've been watching too many Al Pacino movies lately...


Ok so thanks for the heads up strike. I assume this means that the entire White family + any character running for the walt & jessie gang are town while, hank and the DEA third party could work, and if it goes all the way till season 4-5 I think we might be facing at least a couple of mafia families. If strike mentions season 5 it could include todd and his family. Gus is definitely there.
Also, a funny role I could think of: the old mute godfather might see things during the night but not be able to mention them during the day phase?
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Re: [Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 18/18 D1: A New Cook

Postby strike wolf on Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:04 pm

Official Vote Count

Flores
Anarchist (1)- Nagerous
Virus90 (3)-Pancake, Betiko, Mob deadly
Rodion
Pancake
Cooldeals (3)-x-stor-x, nebuchadnezer, rugbirn
Mob Deadly (1)-Rodion
Nagerous (1)-Theforgivenone
Theforgivenone (1)-Superkeener
iAmCaffeine (2)-iAmCaffeine, Anarkist
Betiko (1)-Jonty125
x-stor-x (1)-Iron Butterfly

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, March 4th.

This should be correct. Let me know if I did anything wrong because I did put this together fairly quickly.
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