Streaker's First Mafia (4/9) GAME OVER - mafia wins

[crasp]

Admittedely that did start off as a joke vote on Storr. However it was his actions afterwards that convinced me to keep pushing.
@ Hotshot. Wouldnt matter if you put me to L1 or not. Until storr claims there will be no claim out of me.

[Zivel]

Admittedely that did start off as a joke vote on Storr. However it was his actions afterwards that convinced me to keep pushing.
@ Hotshot. Wouldnt matter if you put me to L1 or not. Until storr claims there will be no claim out of me.

What has he done that convinced you to keep pushing?

[StorrZerg]

Admittedely that did start off as a joke vote on Storr. However it was his actions afterwards that convinced me to keep pushing.
@ Hotshot. Wouldnt matter if you put me to L1 or not. Until storr claims there will be no claim out of me.

What has he done that convinced you to keep pushing?

"not claiming"

and he stated earlier, he wants to kill of of me or tamb, So if i die town, he will kill tamb. If i die scum, he will sheep tamb. i assume the opposite is true if tamb is lynched.
either way its a fairly blind way to play.

[charm]

Why is it that MTam and Storr are always fighting against each other?

@Mtam - Quit picking on me! You know I'm cute and sweet. How dare you put up an ugly scary clown - that is very scummy of you. I'm going to muster up a magical charm with rainbows, unicorns, and happy clowns dancing in your head! You need love, lots of love!!

[StorrZerg]

Why is it that MTam and Storr are always fighting against each other?

@Mtam - Quit picking on me! You know I'm cute and sweet. How dare you put up an ugly scary clown - that is very scummy of you. I'm going to muster up a magical charm with rainbows, unicorns, and happy clowns dancing in your head! You need love, lots of love!!

game would be no fun if we didn't

[Count Belisle]

what are you even talking about. i'm not "omgus"

DO you even know what that term means??? or generally how its used??? cause you are not using it correctly.

Im still waiting to find out what "omgus" is, and how to use it correctly.

VOTE StorrZerg for not explaining what "omgus" is and then chewing someone out for it. quite being selfish and bust out with a Vocab Thessures, while your at it take a chill pill, Im sure you can get one from your Mafia buddy's

How much experience do you have Count B? Cause I dont like the fact that you put Storr at L1....

UNVOTE

to be honest, this is maybe my third one to play, in all the time I have been here in CC, I really still have no clue what Im doing.
the First 2 times I tried this, I left say screw this game,they all seem to get personal real quick, ( remined me of a bunch of tweekers high on speed when I was in my addiction)

but what made me come back and gtve it a try was, I was at a fireside church function at a church members home, then they started this game, samething as you call mafia here but instead of mafia it was werewolves vs town.
now playing this live was really fun. so I thought I might jump in and give it a try one more time, I guess the only way to learn is to try. we all started somewhere.
to prove myself, you all have a very tight community here in mafia, the last game I played in Violet was a player there, she could also vouch for me I have no clue what Im doing, but I have to learn some how.

[Count Belisle]

Vote MTAM

because he hasn't had a joke vote placed on him
he was the only one that responded about being a clown
and he he was never a clown.
and because this is the joke phase and his picture has facial hair - I think facial hair is a turn off to kiss!

Hey charm
what do you think of my facial hair. LOL this was my last booking photo, I was high on speed and waiting for the mothership to pick me up, unfourtantly the alien vistors couldnt lock in my position because of my tin foil hat.

[url][URL=http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/CountBelisle/media/3025723_f260.jpg.html][/url]

[Count Belisle]

In the game that just ended, storr voted seriously on a joke vote that he misread, and he happened to turn out town as much as I disagreed with him all game lol. This time, it sure reads like a joke vote though, I can't imagine that being a serious vote. That was a really quick bandwagon to form on him for that though, with only 9 people it only takes 3 to get to L-2, so I don't blame storr for not claiming instantly.

Count Belisle looks a bit suspicious for putting storr at L-1... Belisle, do you have much experience with forum mafia? Did you realize storr was almost getting lynched there?

Charm is being charm.... not sure I can ever read what she's doing at this point on day 1.

Crasp made a really strong push against storr (and I don't really see why).... I don't recall him making any pushes this strong the entire last game, so that is a bit suspicious. He's already at L-2 though I think, so I'm not going to put him at L-1.

I'm guessing it's a bit past the joke vote stage now, but I want to hear from Belisle before voting him, and crasp is already at L-2... so I don't see a place to put a vote at yet.

well from reading all the post here I cant tell joke phase until I came back and it really went out of hand, I was just what you call bandwagoning I thought I had to throw a vote out or I would not be participating, I just voted for StorrZerg because he was the loudests complaining first.

[Streaker]

Vote count:

virus90 (0): Zivel
Zivel (0): Storrzerg
Charm (0): crasp
Crasp (2): Ultrasplot, virus90, Zivel
Ultrasplot (0): crasp
Storrzerg (3): Mtamburini, crasp, Ultrasplot, Count Belisle
Count Belisle (1): Storrzerg

strike wolf added as reserve.

[Iron Butterfly]

You ignoring me?

[StorrZerg]

what are you even talking about. i'm not "omgus"

DO you even know what that term means??? or generally how its used??? cause you are not using it correctly.

Im still waiting to find out what "omgus" is, and how to use it correctly.

VOTE StorrZerg for not explaining what "omgus" is and then chewing someone out for it. quite being selfish and bust out with a Vocab Thessures, while your at it take a chill pill, Im sure you can get one from your Mafia buddy's

How much experience do you have Count B? Cause I dont like the fact that you put Storr at L1....

UNVOTE

to be honest, this is maybe my third one to play, in all the time I have been here in CC, I really still have no clue what Im doing.
the First 2 times I tried this, I left say screw this game,they all seem to get personal real quick, ( remined me of a bunch of tweekers high on speed when I was in my addiction)

but what made me come back and gtve it a try was, I was at a fireside church function at a church members home, then they started this game, samething as you call mafia here but instead of mafia it was werewolves vs town.
now playing this live was really fun. so I thought I might jump in and give it a try one more time, I guess the only way to learn is to try. we all started somewhere.
to prove myself, you all have a very tight community here in mafia, the last game I played in Violet was a player there, she could also vouch for me I have no clue what Im doing, but I have to learn some how.

some people get personal, things get heated, people miss read things. shit happens since its forum and you can't truly see the emotions of people.
there will be quite a few phrases/shothand mafia talk used, just ask and it will be explained.

So on a more serious note. where are you at in this game, where do you stand on people?

[Streaker]

You ignoring me?

Missed your post there. You are first on the reserve list.

[mtamburini]

Why is it that MTam and Storr are always fighting against each other?

@Mtam - Quit picking on me! You know I'm cute and sweet. How dare you put up an ugly scary clown - that is very scummy of you. I'm going to muster up a magical charm with rainbows, unicorns, and happy clowns dancing in your head! You need love, lots of love!!

I do need love, you are right about that.

[HotShot53]

In the game that just ended, storr voted seriously on a joke vote that he misread, and he happened to turn out town as much as I disagreed with him all game lol. This time, it sure reads like a joke vote though, I can't imagine that being a serious vote. That was a really quick bandwagon to form on him for that though, with only 9 people it only takes 3 to get to L-2, so I don't blame storr for not claiming instantly.

Count Belisle looks a bit suspicious for putting storr at L-1... Belisle, do you have much experience with forum mafia? Did you realize storr was almost getting lynched there?

Charm is being charm.... not sure I can ever read what she's doing at this point on day 1.

Crasp made a really strong push against storr (and I don't really see why).... I don't recall him making any pushes this strong the entire last game, so that is a bit suspicious. He's already at L-2 though I think, so I'm not going to put him at L-1.

I'm guessing it's a bit past the joke vote stage now, but I want to hear from Belisle before voting him, and crasp is already at L-2... so I don't see a place to put a vote at yet.

well from reading all the post here I cant tell joke phase until I came back and it really went out of hand, I was just what you call bandwagoning I thought I had to throw a vote out or I would not be participating, I just voted for StorrZerg because he was the loudests complaining first.

For future knowledge, "bandwagoning" is usually considered a scummy thing to do, because it allows scum to help mislynch people without really putting their neck out by making a case... and so is voting for someone without much reason, unless of course it's an obvious joke vote early on day 1. You can participate by talking about what you think about everyone else and what they've said etc, and you can put a FOS on someone if you think they have been doing something suspicious, but not quite suspicious enough to vote them. (Don't remember what FOS stands for exactly, just means you have your eyes on someone.) Also, putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from Lynching them) is a scum move to do, since it allows anyone to accidentally or on purpose quick-lynch them. The only reason to put someone at L-1 is if you think they are definitely scum and should be lynched without needing further discussion.

After saying all that... I'm going to have to vote Count Belisle since everything he's done so far is scummy... obviously he didn't know it, or he wouldn't have done it, but that's how you catch scum in mistakes sometimes.

As for the crasp & mtam vs. storr & charm spat, not sure how that is going to progress since both refuse to claim... looks like storr will have to claim first since he still has more votes on him, and the rules are plurarity lynch at end of day.

[UltrasPlot]

blablabla crasp you need storr to claim first to come up with a fake? o__O

Don't trust either of you though...

I agree with Hotshot.

VOTE COUNT BELISLE

[charm]

Well since Count B wanted to be beamed up to another planet, has facial hair, and wears tin hats, I'm definitely going to....

UNVOTE

VOTE Count B

[HotShot53]

Wow that was a fast bandwagon... I didn't realize I was that good of a shepherd lol. But since Count Belisle is now at L-1 I will unvote, don't want to quick-lynch the new guy without giving him a chance to defend himself.

Charm meanwhile, just did everything I just voted Count Belisle for doing... and it's even worse since Charm should know better. vote charm

[Zivel]

Willing to let Count B off for being new, putting someone on L1 is a little dodgy as it means that mafia can vote off the person straight away. This is not normal as the person that placed the last vote comes under a lot of scrutiny next day, but if they have protection etc then it could be valid.

Charm should know better, but Charm plays her own game and plays it well. She is tough to read. I am willing to get some pressure on her though and maybe she thought she could get a quick lynch in.

Vote Charm

[StorrZerg]

so in all seriousness you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Its a small game, its easy to apply pressure to people and not vote. So i think its a bit sketch the way hotshot pulled off and counter voted before Count Belisle had anything to say.

Charm isn't a calculating player, more of whimsical. So when looking at her to find her alignment, know that she is whimsical, and not calculating. she probably wasn't aware the lynch placed him to l-1. Regardless, even if she did know, i think she is town for how she opened the game. For how she played off the clown question, since it was a clear indicator to find like minded people off flavor. Something she does a lot. Take a look when she was a mafia hooker (forget the game) but she couldn't help but hint at what her role was, and playing off "kissing/sleeping with etc"

Secondly for why she pushed. Thats a much better reason since its still way to jokey. Attacking the l-1 is "policy" and anyone can do it. I'd much rather see people attacking her arguments and trying to evolve the game on discussion, and not on policy. (Heck last strike wolf game that was hosted) we got all antsy on jonty for placing virus to l-1, yet he was town. Atm i think this concept shouldn't be worried about.

Back to charm and how she reads people, it can be difficult getting information out of her, and she doesn't explain very well on why she thinks something. hence, why i default to reading her for how she soft claims. mtamb should easily be able to back this up, and since he isn't this feels really strange from him.

I still think count needs to be looked at, and a more relevant post needs to be made regarding the game. (and the new card isn't good enough to be letting off the pressure). Specially since he is holding to his vote. And hasn't added anything to discussion besides remarking on why he voted

I just voted for StorrZerg because he was the loudests complaining first.

So considering what was going on, why wouldn't i be the loudest at this point in time? I had just had several votes placed on me for imo wrong insight to my post. So counter the arguments against me with a defense, yet he reads the entire situation as "loudest complaining". What good does that do anyone? Sure he can get the new card for L-1, i won't hold him accountable for that, yet he isn't bothering to read other people, or evolve his read.

[HotShot53]

so in all seriousness you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Its a small game, its easy to apply pressure to people and not vote. So i think its a bit sketch the way hotshot pulled off and counter voted before Count Belisle had anything to say.

Charm isn't a calculating player, more of whimsical. So when looking at her to find her alignment, know that she is whimsical, and not calculating. she probably wasn't aware the lynch placed him to l-1. Regardless, even if she did know, i think she is town for how she opened the game. For how she played off the clown question, since it was a clear indicator to find like minded people off flavor. Something she does a lot. Take a look when she was a mafia hooker (forget the game) but she couldn't help but hint at what her role was, and playing off "kissing/sleeping with etc"

Secondly for why she pushed. Thats a much better reason since its still way to jokey. Attacking the l-1 is "policy" and anyone can do it. I'd much rather see people attacking her arguments and trying to evolve the game on discussion, and not on policy. (Heck last strike wolf game that was hosted) we got all antsy on jonty for placing virus to l-1, yet he was town. Atm i think this concept shouldn't be worried about.

Back to charm and how she reads people, it can be difficult getting information out of her, and she doesn't explain very well on why she thinks something. hence, why i default to reading her for how she soft claims. mtamb should easily be able to back this up, and since he isn't this feels really strange from him.

I still think count needs to be looked at, and a more relevant post needs to be made regarding the game. (and the new card isn't good enough to be letting off the pressure). Specially since he is holding to his vote. And hasn't added anything to discussion besides remarking on why he voted

I just voted for StorrZerg because he was the loudests complaining first.

So considering what was going on, why wouldn't i be the loudest at this point in time? I had just had several votes placed on me for imo wrong insight to my post. So counter the arguments against me with a defense, yet he reads the entire situation as "loudest complaining". What good does that do anyone? Sure he can get the new card for L-1, i won't hold him accountable for that, yet he isn't bothering to read other people, or evolve his read.

I removed my vote because Count B was at L-1... I didn't want a quick-lynch before he could defend himself, as I said. He's not clear in my books, but I'm not ready to lynch yet either. I still have a FOS on him.

And for charm, it's not just the putting Count B at L-1, it's that combined with the bandwagon, combined with no stated logical reasoning... basically the same things I voted Count B for.

[crasp]

so in all seriousness you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Its a small game, its easy to apply pressure to people and not vote. So i think its a bit sketch the way hotshot pulled off and counter voted before Count Belisle had anything to say.

Charm isn't a calculating player, more of whimsical. So when looking at her to find her alignment, know that she is whimsical, and not calculating. she probably wasn't aware the lynch placed him to l-1. Regardless, even if she did know, i think she is town for how she opened the game. For how she played off the clown question, since it was a clear indicator to find like minded people off flavor. Something she does a lot. Take a look when she was a mafia hooker (forget the game) but she couldn't help but hint at what her role was, and playing off "kissing/sleeping with etc"

Secondly for why she pushed. Thats a much better reason since its still way to jokey. Attacking the l-1 is "policy" and anyone can do it. I'd much rather see people attacking her arguments and trying to evolve the game on discussion, and not on policy. (Heck last strike wolf game that was hosted) we got all antsy on jonty for placing virus to l-1, yet he was town. Atm i think this concept shouldn't be worried about.

Back to charm and how she reads people, it can be difficult getting information out of her, and she doesn't explain very well on why she thinks something. hence, why i default to reading her for how she soft claims. mtamb should easily be able to back this up, and since he isn't this feels really strange from him.

I still think count needs to be looked at, and a more relevant post needs to be made regarding the game. (and the new card isn't good enough to be letting off the pressure). Specially since he is holding to his vote. And hasn't added anything to discussion besides remarking on why he voted

I just voted for StorrZerg because he was the loudests complaining first.

So considering what was going on, why wouldn't i be the loudest at this point in time? I had just had several votes placed on me for imo wrong insight to my post. So counter the arguments against me with a defense, yet he reads the entire situation as "loudest complaining". What good does that do anyone? Sure he can get the new card for L-1, i won't hold him accountable for that, yet he isn't bothering to read other people, or evolve his read.

I removed my vote because Count B was at L-1... I didn't want a quick-lynch before he could defend himself, as I said. He's not clear in my books, but I'm not ready to lynch yet either. I still have a FOS on him.

And for charm, it's not just the putting Count B at L-1, it's that combined with the bandwagon, combined with no stated logical reasoning... basically the same things I voted Count B for.

Like storr I don't think charm knew that was an L1 vote. However what is unusual is charm bandwaggoning at all, especially early on. Charm is a maverick with her votes and famous for starting single votes on people while there are two or three others being pressured. Not saying scummy at this point but strange. Logic and charm is a contradiction in terms hotshot.

[charm]

Wow that was a fast bandwagon... I didn't realize I was that good of a shepherd lol. But since Count Belisle is now at L-1 I will unvote, don't want to quick-lynch the new guy without giving him a chance to defend himself.

Charm meanwhile, just did everything I just voted Count Belisle for doing... and it's even worse since Charm should know better. vote charm

Oopsy! Didn't realize that put Count B at L1....I was still having fun on the joke phase! So, I'll have to give Count B a pass for round 1 since I made such a blatant mistake. Sorry, Count B! I do love your yellow shirt - it reminds me of sunflowers!

Ok, I will UNVOTE

My next VOTE will be serious - no more joking around voting from me.

[UltrasPlot]

Yet another Day One - yet another mislynch, alas...

you guys' lynch criteria for D1 is 'lynch the skimmer' and more often than not mafia don't skim... however I agree to a lynch today. Numbers are likely 6/3 and therefore we are thrown to lylo with a mislynch and mylo with a mislynch. If there's a sk we're at pseudo-lylo already.

[Count Belisle]

Well thank you all for unvoting me.
I now see how bandwagoning can be dangerous, still dont have a clue what Im doing but think Im picking stuff up.

I explained my self because I was asked to, and thats what I did. why I didnt remove my vote just yet is because.

Like how all of you refer to other games you have played together, you all have some sort of feel for one another, or a action from a previous game. well the first game I ever played. a player came off strong just as StorrZerg did right in the beginning.

now it seemed real personal right after that, because this player only came to CC for the mafia, from my understanding he was a very skilled player, I guessed plays all over cyberspace. now the fight really got personal later on to the point it really got out of hand and that said player got Banned from CC. so I dont think I did anything wrong because StorrZerg did start off just like this other player. I admit I first voted as a bandwagon thing,but now I understand now that is a wrong thing to do. But I keep my vote there because well.... he wont claim, StorrZerg will actully tap dance around how he shouldnt have to claim. but just wont claim. well thats what this guy would do. he was successful at getting 2 other people lynched even when he was about to get lynched himself. people really hated this guy, I think in R/L hated him, so much FU's and strong personal hatred it really got out of hand, no wonder this guy got banned. but with all that going on he was still able to get 2 town people lynched even when his neck was almost in the rope. and yep you guessed it he was mafia, they didnt lynch him because of a slip in game play, naw they just ended up that they really HATED this guy and just wanted to kill him to get rid of him, and ends up being Mafia,
StorrZerg I offend you by saying loudest complainer, Im sorry that was uncalled for by some one who doesnt know what he is doing, very bad choice of words.

but as I explained why I didnt remove my vote is the way you play, I have very little expertnce, but you remind me how this guy played. I know you are not him, but he was a master at playing this game. I dont know what claiming will do,or how it helps,but this was something that other player would not do also. and gave every reason not too, or shift the dynamics that suspecion went to someone else. ( I guess thats the whole game) . so I guess just claim like people have asked.

[StorrZerg]

Fantastic story, you are trying to compare me to someone I don't know, and the best part you are not pushing me for being scum.

Since besides this guy's behavior, he wasn't doing anything wrong, he was playing the game. Since defending one from accusations is vital to the game.

About the "complaint " my issue is that you ignored what was going on, why I was defending myself then attacked me for arbitrary reasons. "Loudest complainer and for not explaining omgus"

And now you have admitted you don't know what claiming will do, but you are willing to blindly keep pushing. Since other "people " are doing it. Personally cases need to be made against others for why they are scum, debate should happen.

You are not actively engaging anyone about my lynch, or trying to figure the game out. Other people have now hit l-2 including yourself, yet you make no remark that they should claim.

As far as figuring you out, it's hard to say. You are blindly doing things that normal players would be crucified over, so I'm concluding that these actions are mute. Instead what needs to happen, you need to give opinions on other people in this game.