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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:55 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:So from what we've gathered from our claimed roles:

Also from the fact an evolution of machop died as mafia and another evolution of machop died as town, that means the same pokemon might be in here twice. Which means this will make it easier for mafia to fakeclaim, because saying "You can't be mankey! I'm mankey!" will be an invalid argument because it has been shown pokemon can be repeated.
Altho, since one was mafia it might suggest that one of the duplicated claimed pokemon are mafia, which will be helpful.

-SG7 ( :) )


or it was ditto. and he visited the mafia guy lol. that way it would change him.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:11 pm

just realized i was the 1000th post...woooooo
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:53 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
Rodion wrote:Please elaborate. Are you talking about him being right towards Strike and wrong towards Ghostly? Would those be the "conflicting tells"?


Yes. You're asserting that zimmah is scum, so that means you're also asserting that he had the wherewithal to align himself with edoc, and didn't join his scummate in wrangling a claim out of edoc with strike's fakeclaim. He immediately said:

zimmah wrote:so everyone just believe strike wolf without question?

i don't


after edoc accumulated four votes in rapid succession post strike's claim. Okay, fine, he had the foresight to do this. Yet he flubs on a case of mistaken identity?

imo it's more likely that you're making this into more than it is. I give props to Strike for getting edoc to claim, because I'm surprised nobody smelled through the bullshit earlier. I think zimmah recognized that it was a shit claim, and he's being truthful about mixing up ghostly's replacement. Honestly, I'm not too sure what you're trying to prove with the case anyway. In your own words:

Precisely. If that is correct, Zimmah should have no reason to FOS Ghostly as he "knows" he is just a survivor. That's what intrigues me.


What does ghostly stand to make with lynching the survivor? From what I understand, ghostly already got part of his WC out of the way by killing zimmah v.1. I think in this instance Occam's Razor applies, and it's much more reasonable to assume that zimmah fosed somebody because of mistaken identity than an outlandish attempt to lynch a survivor.

-Tails


exactly.

and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby jonty125 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:05 am

zimmah wrote:and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.

Same here until this.
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:just realized i was the 1000th post...woooooo

Very tempted to vote you for this but it isn't scummy - just annoying.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby jonty125 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:06 am

jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.

Same here until this.
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:just realized i was the 1000th post...woooooo

Very tempted to vote you for this but it isn't scummy - just annoying. And he's the cop.


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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:39 am

jonty125 wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.

Same here until this.
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:just realized i was the 1000th post...woooooo

Very tempted to vote you for this but it isn't scummy - just annoying. And he's the cop.


EBWOP - pressed submit not preview


sorry i dont try to be annoying. it sucks i dont have any useful cop investigations and suprising im alive from last night.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby edocsil on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:49 am

If he has inno's should he say who they are?
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:54 am

edocsil wrote:If he has inno's should he say who they are?


the point is i dont.

night 1- zimmmah third party

night 2- strike wolf scum

night 3 - pcm who died
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby edocsil on Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:58 am

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
edocsil wrote:If he has inno's should he say who they are?


the point is i dont.

night 1- zimmmah third party

night 2- strike wolf scum

night 3 - pcm who died


Right. Hey, 1 for 3 isn't bad anyhow.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:07 am

edocsil wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
edocsil wrote:If he has inno's should he say who they are?


the point is i dont.

night 1- zimmmah third party

night 2- strike wolf scum

night 3 - pcm who died


Right. Hey, 1 for 3 isn't bad anyhow.


i guess so but this is my first time as a cop to. i just neeed to go look through today and see who is the scummiest.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:41 am

'm just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby jonty125 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:20 pm

zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:24 pm

jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


He's upset.

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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:34 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


He's upset.

-Tails

i also wish the game was moving but nothing we can do. maybe no lynch doc me and ill investigate someone lol.

another question does anyone think that since a poison doc died that there is another one.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby jonty125 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:40 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


He's upset.

-Tails

i also wish the game was moving but nothing we can do. maybe no lynch doc me and ill investigate someone lol.

another question does anyone think that since a poison doc died that there is another one.


I doubt it.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Rodion on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:09 pm

@Tail - you're basically saying that in order for Zimmah to be mafia he had to be intelligent enough to decide not to believe Strike and that being intelligent there would make it incomprehensible that later on he would be dumb to "forget" Ghostly's claim. I disagree that it takes "intelligence" not to align himself with Strike. Mafia usually tries to split their positions so they can't be easily linked with one another. Perhaps he simply realized there were already mafia on Edoc's wagon and decided to take the opposite stance for distancing reasons? Isn't that simple enough to be accepted by the razor?

zimmah wrote:exactly.

and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.


That's the point. If nobody deserves a vote since there was no discussion to be used as scumtell, your suspicious FOS on Ghostly is enough to make you top the suspicion chart, hence my vote on you.

You failed to suggest me another target, hence my vote continues on you.

You have now suggested another target, me. I will not vote myself, hence my vote continues on you.

Right now, though, there is something else awkward that is bugging me.

jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:and rodion, honestly i have no suggestion to vote on. but the way you're stretching things ATM makes me wonder.

Same here until this.


Agrees with the post in which you indicate you "suspect" me.

jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


Asks for clarification on something that is merely a follow-up of something else to which Jonty had already agreed with. He shouldn't "need" this clarification, should he?

FOS Jonty, but Zimmah still has the nod as I consider his mistake to be more "grave" than Jonty's.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:11 pm

jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


no, basically OMGUS
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Rodion on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:13 pm

zimmah wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


no, basically OMGUS


Except that you were the one caught in a "mistake", so if anyone sucks here, it's you. ;)
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:26 pm

Look, i've been pretty inactive because i have been busy on many other things lately, it's taking me much effort to even read up on this game, let alone make notes and make any constructive posts. However, i do like playing mafia's (however it's more fun when you're more involved), and i limit the number of games i play to 1. however, because of the very limited time and effort i can spend in the game, i am not very aware of what's going on, and i made a mistake by not remembering the claims of most persons. if you don't want to believe that, well, fine with me. but it's not going to bring us any further.

and trust me, i know what distancing is, but you have to admit that the way i 'distanced' myself from strike was either a genius move or a very stupid one. because almost noone suspected strike, and if i just lurked that day, i would not attract any suspicion (especially because lurkers are often ignored on CC) and strike may have still lived. I have not often been mafia, but in the few cases that i was, (for example stool pigeon) i knew better than to make stupid mistakes like that.

so, on a more serous note, aren't there any persons more inactive than me that we can pressure? and how about the day we did lynch strike, who were (more) inactive (maybe avoiding to vote/expres opinion one way or the other?) during that day? did they have any reason to be?

i mean, i did not vote for anyone, but, i never really vote often anyway. i did expres my opinion though and i was pretty much against the stream with my opinion, i shifted the general attention away from the wrongly accused joat (if i remember right) towards the wrongfully trusted mafia.

you really gotta give me more credit rodion, and i mean that in two ways, (both as a mafia player and as a 'good guy' in this game)
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Rodion on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:42 pm

zimmah wrote:so, on a more serous note, aren't there any persons more inactive than me that we can pressure? and how about the day we did lynch strike, who were (more) inactive (maybe avoiding to vote/expres opinion one way or the other?) during that day? did they have any reason to be?


Those are fair questions. Why don't you make a research to see if you find something suspicious? I may be convinced to land my vote somewhere else.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:45 pm

ill do an inactives list
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:28 pm

Thanks clever.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:12 pm

Freezie has been prodded. Both Kratos and eldario have posted fairly recently.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby jonty125 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:36 am

Rodion wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


Asks for clarification on something that is merely a follow-up of something else to which Jonty had already agreed with. He shouldn't "need" this clarification, should he?


I saw you [Rodion] as slightly suspicious by how hard you were trying to push for a vote, but probably only sFOS worthy. Then when zimmah came out and voted you, I was expecting something new to be brought to the table, alas it wasn't. Did I need clarification? Possibly, I was pretty unsure who was scummy and when someone votes, "to get things moving", I was expecting some ground-breaking new evidence.


zimmah wrote:
and trust me, i know what distancing is, but you have to admit that the way i 'distanced' myself from strike was either a genius move or a very stupid one. because almost noone suspected strike, and if i just lurked that day, i would not attract any suspicion (especially because lurkers are often ignored on CC) and strike may have still lived. I have not often been mafia, but in the few cases that i was, (for example stool pigeon) i knew better than to make stupid mistakes like that.

you really gotta give me more credit rodion, ... (both as a mafia player and as a 'good guy' in this game)


I find the bolded bit off. Mafia, often will distance themselves from scum-buddies to avoid been associated with them if one dies. Supposing you were mafia, going 1 v 1 with strike could result with one of you dying and the other getting town credibility. I'm really not sure what to think of regarding the last statement. But I can't discredit you for the questions.

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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 4(11/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:02 am

jonty125 wrote:
Rodion wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
zimmah wrote:'m just going to go ahead and vote rodion to get things moving.


Can you explain further?


Asks for clarification on something that is merely a follow-up of something else to which Jonty had already agreed with. He shouldn't "need" this clarification, should he?


I saw you [Rodion] as slightly suspicious by how hard you were trying to push for a vote, but probably only sFOS worthy. Then when zimmah came out and voted you, I was expecting something new to be brought to the table, alas it wasn't. Did I need clarification? Possibly, I was pretty unsure who was scummy and when someone votes, "to get things moving", I was expecting some ground-breaking new evidence.


zimmah wrote:
and trust me, i know what distancing is, but you have to admit that the way i 'distanced' myself from strike was either a genius move or a very stupid one. because almost noone suspected strike, and if i just lurked that day, i would not attract any suspicion (especially because lurkers are often ignored on CC) and strike may have still lived. I have not often been mafia, but in the few cases that i was, (for example stool pigeon) i knew better than to make stupid mistakes like that.

you really gotta give me more credit rodion, ... (both as a mafia player and as a 'good guy' in this game)


I find the bolded bit off. Mafia, often will distance themselves from scum-buddies to avoid been associated with them if one dies. Supposing you were mafia, going 1 v 1 with strike could result with one of you dying and the other getting town credibility. I'm really not sure what to think of regarding the last statement. But I can't discredit you for the questions.

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:ill do an inactives list


Do you have any thoughts on the game?


ya sorry i am moving today and am checking this one time today. sorry i never did the list. i got hit with busy things.
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