Gneral thoughts from the previous day:
@ Herk - extremely scummy, but there are better targets than him. A lot of things he say look out of place, so it would really nice if someone could investigate him?
@ Dazey's bandwagon (Flores, Haggis, Aage) - looks like pretty much as the main candidates at the moment.
@ Saxlad - I don't think that he's aligned with bandwagon above, but also looks quite scummy.
@ Sensfan - Huge
FoS due to him constantly trying to stay in the dark, but post enough to try not to appear scummy. Heavily on Dazey's wagon too.
@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here.
@ Inactives - modkill/replace perhaps?
@ PMC - Huge
FoS here as well. Seems like a good player and comes online every so often, but avoids attention here. Interesting?
Mr. Squirrel wrote:It had been a very busy night. Gunshots and sirens were heard almost continuously and few got any sleep whatsoever. However, when morning arrived the town was surprised to see the body count was so low.
Jordan White had grown up as a sadist and many of the citizens of New Briarsburg avoided him. He had earned a few medals for his service in the military, but it was widely rumored that his great accomplishments were made by quite unethical means. He was found lying in a pool of his own blood with his chest cut open for the world to see. After searching his modest apartment, they found remote explosives and tubs of gasoline, proving without a doubt that he was part of the mafia.
Blakebowling: Jordan White - Mafia Arsonist (untrackable killer) has been killed!
Day 2 Begins!!!
I'm just really interested in what happened here. Lots of possibilities and it gives a lot of people ability to claim that they did it.
aage wrote:Yes, Jace is suspicious, but for now i will still urge you all to vote theherkman. This dude has been referring to having night kill actions ALL NIGHT, not to mention his pretty. odd behavior yesterday (as in, during D1). If he's the vig, we're better off without him. If he's some other killing role, he should die. Now.
vote theherkman btw.
What the?...
FoS Aage.
strike wolf wrote:Ok so from what I'm reading HUGE fos on aage for being willing to kill a vig who sucessfully killed scum. I know that information only came out after your post but you still basically said it yourself.
That being said I still want to hear from jace before I consider changing my vote.
We don't know that...
nagerous wrote:I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.
FoS Nag.
theherkman wrote:Well my abilities are pro-town. A scum is dead and the mafia kill was thwarted. Pretty easy conclusion here...
Not necessarily...
Fircoal wrote:ACtually I will say that due to HerkyDerky's status in teh game, it actually is very scummy to vote him now. No one pro town should be trying to vote him.
We don't
know that...
theherkman wrote:I agree with everyone on this page other than, Vi. I voted Daze and kept my vote on her UNTIL she explained about the doctor. After she did, I changed my vote. I'm still suspicious of sens and now Vi. I am suspicious of others who vote me. ESPECIALLY NOW! The mafia knows I am a townie with a major role and they are upset about not being able to kill me last night. ANYONE who votes for a town power role is, quite frankly, scum.
Again, until someone investigates you, we don't
know. We are just
assuming you do... You probably do have some sort of special role, but that doesn't mean you are pro-town and I still doubt you are.
theherkman wrote:Let's see, what is more probable... That I can track/kill/protect/investigate/bulletproof/INSERTOTHERCOOLABILITYHERE or that different people in the group have different abilities and that together we can formulate a plan during the night on how to use our actions? Hmm?
Group of what? Most of the time pro-town people can't talk with each other...
ga7 wrote:Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?
Vote Aage and
FOS Vio for the same reason. It should be obvious to anyone Herk is town and unfortunately the spokesman for his group seemingly, and was a likely target for scum although a number of other things could have happened. To try to push another opinion at this point is scummy, especially since it seems town has a large paved way to get rid of scum if there's mason groups, hopefully extensible. If it started as a group with more than one it's most likely of stable size however. It can be many options either way so your argument holds no water.
I'd like to put a leash on this though, Herk you're getting overexcited and paranoid again. Don't forget to use logic
How do you know that's he's pro-town? Perhaps you're on of his so-called "groupies"? Hmm...
TheSaxlad wrote:After reading the pages above:
unovte vote aage
reasons above in the last 3 pages.
Yet again, barely no posts, turns up to vote, disappears.
edocsil wrote:Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie? This is really beginning to bother me. He did some wacked shit yesterday and is starting it up again today, and when he is presented with a logical argument he flames. And then by magic everyone agrees with him and jumps on his OMGUS wagon
Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.
What is going on here?
Victor Sullivan wrote:VOTE THEHERKMAN@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test
unvote.
I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:
@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?
-Sully
My thoughts, pretty much. A+ for edoc and Sulta... err, Sully
naxus wrote:for one. THM is once again full of alot of fluff. Today his fluff is a little less and arguments are seeping through but Damn man.
I agree with Flow and Strike( I think it was you) that we need to know his group name/classification or whatever.
With a game this big, its not nearly so simple as Town V Mafia. While those two are the prominent factions, there could be quite a few factions. These could be multiple mafias, cult, survivor groups and lonely third party. So while yes we killed someone evil last night, thats not to say they were mafia but could've been one of many different factions.
Aage while your agrument seems strange im still suspicious of THM. FOS AAGE and HERK
Totally agree with this as well and that's what I wrote above. Surely, if there's a such a strong and complete group, what does it do? IMO, if such group exists, it's probably not pro-town.
Stefunny85 wrote:I'm confused. I think both Herk and Aage have arguments that are like swissscheeeeeese (full of holes?)
I think Jace still seems like the lynch we need to look at. Perhaps either Herk or aage is trying to take the heat off of Jace?
Unfortunately Herk DID fos Blake from the beginning which still makes me think he knows more than he is letting on. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen but as of right now all I can say is he correctly predicted a scum. I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me. Especially when they say things like "You'll soon find out". However I think at this point we have no more or less evidence against either one.
Vote Jace
You hit the nail on the head with your post about Aage and Herk. Both seem
extremely suspicious and I honestly hope someone can investigate those two to actually find out what they're talking about.
Jace, on the other hand, is also extremely scummy, but I think replacing him would probably work better than lynching him as the main case, from my perspective anyways, is his inability to consistently contribute and only showing up on rare occasions for a post or two.
ga7 wrote:Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.
You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!
There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.
Masons are not always pro-town?
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FoS Vioiet for being a bit too inactive lately.
Personally, not going to vote just yet, but there are a lot of problems in two main protagonists of the day arguments.
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