Indigo League Mafia/RPG Final Scene

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Grow the f*ck up Nark, stop being a cunt. I may be passive aggressive towards people who attacks others, but at least I'm not pissing every other player off. Learn to take criticism.

Skittles. I am going to say this once. There is a line. You keep crossing it. Stop it.

[Anarkistsdream]

Grow the f*ck up Nark, stop being a cunt. I may be passive aggressive towards people who attacks others, but at least I'm not pissing every other player off. Learn to take criticism.

Skittles. I am going to say this once. There is a line. You keep crossing it. Stop it.

But he needs someone to hold his hand, and Skoffin moved to a different continent... Maybe Skittles was too aggressive..

Look, this is an aggressive game. Mostly, because the ADULTS in the game don't have time for the rare postin from almost half the players. You agreed to the game. Play or ask to be replaced... It is seriously not that hard... By the way, the posts I see here are no different than thE ones when Iceman and Wicked were playing... Soo... WAAAAAHHHH

[Anarkistsdream]

Last year or so they doubled the amount of posts per page on this site, so in the old days, we would have reached 80 pages by now.

I'll hammer, just for the hell of it.

vote Fircoal

Unvote and revote, dork.

You know... This WOULD have been the hammer... Doom, I would have expected you to know that and yet you did not unvote, and because that the day is still dragging on and panties are twisting in the wind...

Why did you not unvote?

Why did you not come back to check the thread after you KNOW you hammered? I would be willing to switch a vote to you, but it would go nowhere...

[nagerous]

Well this wasn't fun to catch up and read. Is there really a need for all the name-calling and unpleasantness ?

Aage your unvote and vote was ultra scummy - are you not even going to bother to post any reasoning or thoughts?

Fircoal thanks for claiming, I am not sure if we can read much into the claim - the only thing I would note that Lapras is an unevolvable Pokemon. I am not sure what others were hoping but I was thinking some of the additional perks may include an evolution involvement and this would be the case for all. This is why I am not 100 percent convinced by the claim

[nagerous]

That is additional perks of levelling up

[aage]

Aage your unvote and vote was ultra scummy - are you not even going to bother to post any reasoning or thoughts?

The choice is clearly between fircoal and mitch, read literally any of my earlier posts to see my position on them


I'm happy to lynch a wild pokemon claim. I don't see why people would unvote because he claimed that; why did you vote in the first place?

[aage]

That looks like a solid claim to me. Especially if no-one else counter-claims it. Granted that's unlikely considering the number of Pokemon available, but still.

I have a proposal for everyone currently on the Fircoal bandwagon. I will recruit Fircoal tonight if you switch your votes elsewhere. If we're then both alive on Day 2, I will then confirm his role.

This is a terrible idea, if we don't lynch Fircoal he'll be dead by morning anyway.

[BuJaber]

So my choices here are either believe fircoal, unvote and not vote for mitch, in which case mitch probably gets lynched. Or believe fircoal & vote for him anyway, or not believe him and do nothing.

Damn it I wish you would have claimed sooner.

Voting for anyone because they insult/antagonize people is not good for the game. We deal with that some other way. If you don't like what they say ask the mod the blacklist them from future games. Lynching people because you don't like them is ridiculous. Unless you're some sort of unique 3rd party role you can't win a game of mafia by yourself. You're stuck with everyone who signed up for now.

[BuJaber]

Or not claimed at all*.
mandy said it.. claiming is suicidal.. either you're lying, or you'll get killed anyway.

[kwanton]

So my choices here are either believe fircoal, unvote and not vote for mitch, in which case mitch probably gets lynched. Or believe fircoal & vote for him anyway, or not believe him and do nothing.

Damn it I wish you would have claimed sooner.

Voting for anyone because they insult/antagonize people is not good for the game. We deal with that some other way. If you don't like what they say ask the mod the blacklist them from future games. Lynching people because you don't like them is ridiculous. Unless you're some sort of unique 3rd party role you can't win a game of mafia by yourself. You're stuck with everyone who signed up for now.

My opinion is that I joined this game to have fun, not watch people fling insults at each other. This is coming from someone who hasn't even been targeted by personal attacks.

[DoomYoshi]

Nark, I'm still working on my D1 information gathering. The fake hammer didn't really help. I know who MM picked as the starting pokemon now and I'm pretty sure they have day talk. I am going to do a reread on dakky in the next couple of days. Once I get his partner 100%, I'm off to scumhunt. Give me 10 more pages and I will have the whole game figured out.

[Anarkistsdream]

Nark, I'm still working on my D1 information gathering. The fake hammer didn't really help. I know who MM picked as the starting pokemon now and I'm pretty sure they have day talk. I am going to do a reread on dakky in the next couple of days. Once I get his partner 100%, I'm off to scumhunt. Give me 10 more pages and I will have the whole game figured out.

The fake hammer didn't help? No shit!

10 more pages? For day 1?

No. I am so tired of of actually TRYING to spend time on this game for nothing... I was asked and I thought that meant that others were going to put forth effort and play.. Instead, there are 10-14 players who view this game as an aside, at most. I work 60 hours a week between 2 jobs and still post this often... Plus I am married and a chairman on a board... I am glad that everyone else thinks 20 minutes every three or four days is enough, but that is not me... You agreed to do something for Mandy and agreed to put forth energy for every other player...

[Serbia]

This game feels like it's about to stall out. Masket's idea is a bad one - I can't imagine he'll be able to survive the night, so any promises he makes regarding recruitment are worthless.

[nagerous]

Nark, I'm still working on my D1 information gathering. The fake hammer didn't really help. I know who MM picked as the starting pokemon now and I'm pretty sure they have day talk. I am going to do a reread on dakky in the next couple of days. Once I get his partner 100%, I'm off to scumhunt. Give me 10 more pages and I will have the whole game figured out.

The fake hammer didn't help? No shit!

10 more pages? For day 1?

No. I am so tired of of actually TRYING to spend time on this game for nothing... I was asked and I thought that meant that others were going to put forth effort and play.. Instead, there are 10-14 players who view this game as an aside, at most. I work 60 hours a week between 2 jobs and still post this often... Plus I am married and a chairman on a board... I am glad that everyone else thinks 20 minutes every three or four days is enough, but that is not me... You agreed to do something for Mandy and agreed to put forth energy for every other player...

People are trying and posting, we have 42 pages worth of text for fucks sake. Everyone is very busy with work and Xmas, I have been mostly posting on public transport for instance just when I have a chance. Sure there may be a couple of inactives but most people are making the effort to find time to contribute.

[Ragian]

I am hung over from a three day binge. Sorry for not being alive during the weekend. Loads of things happened, but other things never happened.

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa okay. Well that changed things. Need to look over who was gunning for Marashu, and analyse those posts.

That's going to be very interesting. I was looking forward to you posting something about me, but nothing came of this. What gives?

Nag I want to believe on a personal level but there have been some good points brought up about him.

Why not vote Nag, then? I could get behind that.

Frankly I think I'd rather go after Serbia than either of them but it's too late in the progression of the day to suggest starting a new lynch candidate unless I was absolutely certain.

I have never understood this. We don't even have a deadline. Why not make the case you can to see how many would want a piece of the action? And absolute certainty D1? I've never seen that bar a lucky day cop.

While I understand that some really want this day to end, I don't want to vote for Chu. I don't like the case at all. Meanwhile, I've seen at least three or some players indicating that they would consider Nag. Given that we have a week left, I'm going to make a last ditch effort looking a Nag's posts from D1. I just need to go to work and pretend I haven't been drinking since Friday.

Will post later today. (And vote accordingly.)

[Minister Masket]

The fake hammer didn't really help. I know who MM picked as the starting pokemon now and I'm pretty sure they have day talk. I am going to do a reread on dakky in the next couple of days. Once I get his partner 100%, I'm off to scumhunt. Give me 10 more pages and I will have the whole game figured out.

No you don't, and no we don't. Your choice of wording there basically confirms that this is pure rubbish on your part. And Day talk is an extremely overpowered feature (imo) and mandy is an experienced enough mod to know not to include it. I do know which faction though likes to spam misinformation during the day phase, so thanks for that.

Nark, I'm still working on my D1 information gathering.

Not hard enough evidently.

This game feels like it's about to stall out. Masket's idea is a bad one - I can't imagine he'll be able to survive the night, so any promises he makes regarding recruitment are worthless.

Actually if I'm successful in recruiting Fircoal then I'm 99% sure I'll survive. Hence why I put the idea forward after seeing his claim. If he's lying then it might go a bit tits up but that's unlikely.
Any potential assassins would have better luck targeting the Pokemon I have currently. Why don't you ask DoomYoshi? He seems to know.

[DoomYoshi]

Well if you don't have daytalk with skoffin, then she must be Gary or the Team Rocket trainer. You are singing the same tunes which implies daytalk or at least the same role PM.

[Minister Masket]

Well if you don't have daytalk with skoffin, then she must be Gary or the Team Rocket trainer. You are singing the same tunes which implies daytalk or at least the same role PM.

What?? The trainers are essentially against each other. Why would they "sing the same tunes"? If I'm a town trainer and she is Gary or TR as you say then really we'd be trying to undermine each other. I'm not too sure why you're not grasping this concept yet since everyone else here seems to be.

i didn't know you thought it was Skoffin though, so thanks for that info. ^^

[nagerous]

Ragian we have a one week deadline, but feel free to analyse/critique my posts if you wish. You will find I have made some useful points/posts throughout the game that you may have skimmed earlier

[strike wolf]

I am hung over from a three day binge. Sorry for not being alive during the weekend. Loads of things happened, but other things never happened.

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa okay. Well that changed things. Need to look over who was gunning for Marashu, and analyse those posts.

That's going to be very interesting. I was looking forward to you posting something about me, but nothing came of this. What gives?

Nag I want to believe on a personal level but there have been some good points brought up about him.

Why not vote Nag, then? I could get behind that.

Frankly I think I'd rather go after Serbia than either of them but it's too late in the progression of the day to suggest starting a new lynch candidate unless I was absolutely certain.

I have never understood this. We don't even have a deadline. Why not make the case you can to see how many would want a piece of the action? And absolute certainty D1? I've never seen that bar a lucky day cop.

You answered your own question here more or less. If I had been able to fully read up on and make a case on Serbia a couple days earlier, I might have been willing to push it but the fact is at this point, I'd have to feel that a. The case is strong enough to warrant the change of position (and I'm not sure it is) and b. That there would be enough people willing to switch their votes to the Serbia (or Nag) case to make it worth while and right now, I believe it would only switch the votes more at a time when we are getting to a point where day should be winding down. Posts are already dragging. We still have a decent number chiming in from time to time but the main activity over the last few days has been Nark wanting to end the day, other people agreeing or disagreeing whether the day should end, Wing saying stuff (which half the time is nothing) and Skittles apparently losing his cool over Nark's postings. As far as Nag, I've seen some support for the idea of a Nag lynch but he has become more active as the day's become more serious. Either way, without rereading and finding something new or a better case presented on him, he wouldn't be my top lynch choice even if Chu flips town.

As far as personal attacks, I get that heads get heated in mafia. It's a game of not only debate but debate aimed squarely at people. Insults to some extent are inevitable. People do occasionally lose their heads but please, let's try to keep this to a minimum. Mafia is meant to be fun, not a game where you win through whatever means necessary and antagonizing behavior especially when it is intentional and becomes overzealous is a good way to suck out the fun for other players. And yes, the same can be said about inactivity (especially scummarining), not posting robs the game of context and cases built on inactivity are boring but often necessary. So please, let's try to keep activity up. Sure scum may slip if they talk too much but that's a learning experience and sure talking too much may draw night kills to you as survivors or power roles but I'd rather be killed for being active than survive based on not talking at all.

[Skoffin]

Of course, why wouldn't anyone crush on me. My dick is the biggest one here.

Ahem

Trainers can't catch humans and pokemon can't get xp from humans.

Ok, babes, if you say so...

It orbits out in space, for the record.

Do you disagree on that assessment? Seems to be self-explanatory.

@Talapus I asked you about your case on Masket and why you were voting him on his wording, your argument contradicted itself. Do you still feel masket is scum and if so why? [/color]

His wording...easy. He distanced the fact the bad players were in fact trainers, stated it a few times in fact, than completely flipped and agreed with the fact. The basis that he is a trainer and a trainer death is going to get us the most info is the best I think but that ship has sailed 40 pages in and Christmas around the corner. So MM will wait until another day.

I don't know where you saw any of that, and something I mentioned previously is that I think you have some of his points mixed up. I do believe you confused things between trainers relating to Professor Oak and trainers that do not have anything to do with Professor Oak. I'm not getting the where the assumption that all trainers must be scum came from to begin with.

I feel ya on the forum-eating post bug, though. It strikes with a savage ferocity.


I am curious to see what Doom has up his sleeve, it's almost worth prolonging time
What made you think I had daytalk with masket though? Literally everything I've said regarding roles can be extrapolated from what others have said about their roles.

We have a deadline, and we can still consider other cases if we want - seems like half a dozen people have stated "I don't like this but I got no choice'. Well, you do. Make your case while you still have time. Even if no one goes for it now chances are you may be dead by tomorrow and won't get to say it then - may as well have it out there for use for D2, D3 etc

I have a funny feeling about both the chu and mitch wagons, and I still find others more suspicious for the time being.
Chu's claim is interesting - Lapras is a highly famous pokemon so it could have been used, it would be something highly risky for someone to fake aswell. But I'm not sure how it might fit in this game. Lapras does get some decent moves later on though. As some people have yet to post, someone may still yet to counterclaim.

Ragian we have a one week deadline, but feel free to analyse/critique my posts if you wish. You will find I have made some useful points/posts throughout the game that you may have skimmed earlier

I'll go have a look. And surely a week is fine?

Anyway, I wanted to be thorough, so I've looked at all of Nag's posts and divided them into four categories: Thoughts on flavour/mechanics/etc., Scumhunting (or at least posts in which the game is being played), Defence (defending his own position), and Irrelevant (unimportant stuff). Luckily, the scumhunting one seems to be the largest of the spoilers I have used. There are two ways to go about my post: 1) Click the spoilers and see if you draw the came conclusions as I do or 2) go to the bottom of this post and see my conclusions and disregard this attempt. If you choose the latter, the rules are that you must vote what I vote.

show: flavourSpec

Let's go to some stronger content.

show: Scumhunting

Below is the only post I found where Nag defended something he said.

show: Defence

The stuff in the spoiler below is irrelevant, but feel free to see how much I found irrelevant (apart from the entire flavour spec spoiler).

show: Irrelevant

Says some things about the game. Posts a bit on irrelevant things about trainers that is unlikely to become important and finishes with no conclusion. His main contribute is saying that he leans town on Masket but leaves it open enough that he could vote him later on. My main takeaway? Skittles is one of the many players I still need to find time to reread because at the very least this post rubs me the wrong way.

And of course Nag's (who I also have added to the prod list, PM already sent) quad post back on page thirteen which also says next to nothing and finishes with a pot meet kettle vote on Legionnaire. Though on the other hand, the main point I note from the quad post was the first to really put down the Nark typo case as nothing so counter point.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Didnt I spend time baiting Nag early in the game for his hypocritical accusations of legionairre not contributing. (To be fair, is legionairre contributing yet?)

This seems absent from your stuff Rag.

[Serbia]

This game feels like it's about to stall out. Masket's idea is a bad one - I can't imagine he'll be able to survive the night, so any promises he makes regarding recruitment are worthless.

Actually if I'm successful in recruiting Fircoal then I'm 99% sure I'll survive. Hence why I put the idea forward after seeing his claim. If he's lying then it might go a bit tits up but that's unlikely.
Any potential assassins would have better luck targeting the Pokemon I have currently. Why don't you ask DoomYoshi? He seems to know.

What do you know about trainers that the rest of us don't know then? I know you've already claimed to be one, but I trust you even less now. Are you bulletproof if you make a successful recruitment?

[Ragian]

Didnt I spend time baiting Nag early in the game for his hypocritical accusations of legionairre not contributing. (To be fair, is legionairre contributing yet?)

This seems absent from your stuff Rag.

Yes, you did. Feel free to add shit. Feel free to change your vote.