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Postby red bull on Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:58 pm

AK_iceman wrote:Day Four

Blah, blah blah and blah. You guys dont really read these, and I dont have time to write them right now, so I'm gonna pretend this is a story.

Nobody died this night.

Now lets get the day going!



i read them :(
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Postby Senfive on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:11 pm

Sam Jam wrote:i am! i bet that the mafia targeted somebody and we got a nurse/doctor unlocked who protected the person who was going to be killed


Or the person they targeted had a special ability to hide at night and be immune to night kills. I learned this from reading threads at Mafia Scum. Ice and I got pwned but ehh. We are noobs compared to those people. They are insane.

And Andy I am Really interested in that Post.
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Postby sully800 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:12 pm

Here is a post I wrote up last night, predicting that no one will die. I don't have much time between homework and tests up till friday so I might not be able to explain much more...


Alright, well since I'm still alive I owe everyone an explanation, and I'll start with who I am. I am only revealing this because the mafia must already know since we had no deaths last night. In this post I was trying to make it sound like I might be a cop

sully800 wrote:After tonight I will be able to tell everyone where Andy's intentions lie and we can take the path from there.

or at least that I had very important info and a plan
sully800 wrote:Tomorrow, I will put together a very long informational post that I think will help the townies very much.

Well, my plan was to bring attention to myself so the mafia would try and kill me to prevent the plan from happening. So it was one of those self-fulfilling deals that I alluded to earlier. I wanted them to try and kill me because I'm a doctor and there were a lot of people that needed to be saved. If I knew people would try and kill me then I could just protect myself. I hinted about my role twice previously- Not very obvious perhaps but it was moreso a trail for myself and not for anyone else to discover. This post was just after the first night and there were only two capital letters...
sully800 wrote:Do you think we may have two mafia groups/families? Remember that neither of the dead mafia members did anything extraordinary to make them look guilty...

That first night I protected myself because I was the only person who I knew was town. The second hint I left was just before the second night, before we knew that puff was going to die. I wanted him to save redbull and my plan was to save puff, as you can see...
sully800 wrote:I wonder if puff has made a decision as to who he will try to save tonight. Will it still be between red bull, the potential cop, and the mysterious fircoal? Save one of them and hopefully the town still has some power roles left tomorrow. Puff- i really hope you are a doctor and not just a mafia member who squirmed his way out of suspicion until we all turned against dcowboys.

Well, as it turns out puff was killed right at the lynching, so I protected red bull, as did fircoal.

And now onto Andy. This is mostly a theory but I think it makes sense. It really bothered me how he figured out who Master Bush investigated when I couldn't notice anything....but this part struck me as rather odd (Andy's response to me trying to figure out MB's investigation.)
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sully800 wrote:He(Master Bush) also told fircoal to stop being rude right near the end. I don't think that means anything at all, but if I'm reading red bull's posts correctly he thinks fircoal is innocent, perhaps because MB investigated fircoal? I see no proof of that since their only interaction (that I found) was MB saying "stop being rude fircoal"

I'm almost positive I know who MB investigated...

The way he said that didn't seem like he was talking about Fircoal. I thought it indicated either him or me but I didn't know how it could be either of us. However this was before I knew that cops were receiving roles as well as alliances. I went back and read every post by MB again (he didn't have many) and I found this...
Master Bush wrote:First off, it's cool that we get to play with Andy this time, the Mayor of Mafia games.

:wink:

I didn't even notice it the first time, but I think this means that Master Bush investigated Andy, found out he was innocent and his role was 'Mayor'. I don't exactly know what that role means but I'm sure Andy can elaborate if my suspicion is correct. This all makes perfect sense to me because it explains why Andy knew who MB investigated yet no one else did. It also explains Andy's confidence that he wouldn't be lynched- he could simply show this post and prove that MB investigated him and found him to be innocent (my only concern is that Andy is a Godfather, but since Rev Kyle was one I think the chances are slimmer).

Now, my reason for saying this yesterday...
sully800 wrote:Rest assured that if he(Andy) is still alive tomorrow he is the man I think we should lynch. But I'll talk more on that later. boezjtjoopdfou

Was to try and keep Andy alive. I was hoping the mafia would see that Andy might get lynched and keep him alive to frame him (as Andy mentioned). Simple blackmailing because I was pretty confident that Andy was innocent and I needed to try and save him, red bull and fircoal at once. Now, if you look closely at that last quote you may notice some small white font right at the end. It was another paper trail I left to prove my thoughts. If you enlarge it it says "boezjtjoopdfou" which is code because I thought some people might see the size 1 white font. The code is simple- each letter is 1 beyond the real letter. So change B to A, O to N, etc. and you get "Andyisinnocent". As I said, he could be a godfather, but I don't think so. I would like to hear more about his mayor role if I was correct about that guess.

So now as I see it we have 4 confirmed townies- myself, red bull, fircoal and Andy. We lynched another mafia member in Rev Kyle which was absolutely EXCELLENT. I knew taking potshots at the submarines would pay off eventually. Now we will have results from red bull's investigation which will give us either another townie we can trust or an easy man to lynch. Tonight may be scary with 5 potential proven townies but they can't kill us all. And having two doctors helps for sure because we might be able to block them once again.

Another reason I am posting all of this information now is because I will be gone Friday afternoon until Sunday afternoon. I didn't want anyone going crazy and lynching me in that 48 hour span simply because I didn't prove myself innocent like I promised I would. I know it was a long post, and a lot to take in, but I tried to make everything as clear and complete as possible.
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Postby sully800 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:13 pm

Oh and yeah Andy, post your long one as well, unedited. I want to see how we compare in our thoughts :wink:
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:17 pm

Page 4 -- Master Bush wrote:First off, it's cool that we get to play with Andy this time, the Mayor of Mafia games.

:wink:

unvote wicked

fos XenHu


man you're acting weird.


Ahem, Mayor of Mafia games? Interesting choice of words. At this point I thought it may just be random luck. Until...


Page 14 -- Master Bush wrote:maybe you can throw someone a pardon in your next game, in exchange for you safety tonight.

:lol:


Pardon? Another intersting choice. It's safe to say that MB, the Day Cop, investigated me.

Page 14 -- AndyDufresne wrote:Haha, I think you ARE on to something there big buddy! ;) ;)


--Andy


And as you noticed, I wanted him to know I picked up on it. Hence the ARE and the smiley. This also eliminates the possibility that Houssam brought up, of me being a godfather. A godfather would only appear as a normal townie, and not as a power role.

AndyDufresne wrote:I've also noticed some interesting little 'alliances' (for lack of a better term) going on...and am I interested in how that acts together.

Regarding me knowing MB's investigation, I'm still sure I know, but I'd like to see some subtle confirmation from the party that it is alright to clarify further. Don't want to be getting anyone killed


Another hint I tried to drop regarding me being the target of MB's investigation. I didn't want to come out right away, as I knew I wanted to keep this ace in the hole. I hoped to fly under the radar enough, so I wouldn't have to flat out say I am townie, until I was in danger. Hence me talking about not endangering someone who wasn't in danger to begin with.

Now I hope this clears up some things. And the fact I'm here today...leads to me believe there are some experienced mafia who are trying to frame me.

=======

Now, that we see the Regular Mafia had two power roles...it leads me to belive there are 4 Regular Mafia members and 4 Vanilla Mafia members. The two Vanilla Mafia members remaining most likely have a power role of some sort, to keep with the general balance of things. Maybe we can assume they also have a Godfather and a cop. If they do indeed...this will surely bring up some interesting points of discussion...about people being investigated and cleared...and about the cop.



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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:19 pm

And I am indeed a Mayor.

Sully, you say you are able to protect yourself? This odd for a doctor...usually they are unable to protect themselves...due to the fact, if 1 doctor and 1 mafia are alive at the end of the game, it is a stalement. The doctor protects himself from a night kill, yet he can't get a lynch on the mafia due to him not having a majority (51% +).

Interesting though, to say the least.


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:19 pm

Well I saw the role thing on the role index, so if anyone what's to know what a mayor is just ask me.
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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:20 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:And I am indeed a Mayor.

Sully, you say you are able to protect yourself? This odd for a doctor...usually they are unable to protect themselves...due to the fact, if 1 doctor and 1 mafia are alive at the end of the game, it is a stalement. The doctor protects himself from a night kill, yet he can't get a lynch on the mafia due to him not having a majority (51% +).

Interesting though, to say the least.


--Andy


No the doc would get endgamed. When scum and town are the same number or scum has more. It's an automatic scum win unless, there are 2 scum factors.
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Postby sully800 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:21 pm

Excellent Andy. I'm glad to see that all of my guesses were correct. I agree that there are probably 8 total mafia members, so we still have 3 left. We've done well thus far by killing 5 mafia and the instigator, but they still have some power if there are indeed 3 left.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:22 pm

Not in all games. I've seen stalemates of this before, depending on the win condition of the mafia. A lot of games, mafia must control 50% of town, but in some cases, they must eliminate all those who are not of their mafia.


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Postby sully800 on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:23 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:And I am indeed a Mayor.

Sully, you say you are able to protect yourself? This odd for a doctor...usually they are unable to protect themselves...due to the fact, if 1 doctor and 1 mafia are alive at the end of the game, it is a stalement. The doctor protects himself from a night kill, yet he can't get a lynch on the mafia due to him not having a majority (51% +).

Interesting though, to say the least.


--Andy


Well I never questioned my ability to protect myself, as I asked for it twice now and never received any objections from AK. I've never been a doctor before this game, so I never really thought about whether they could do that or not.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:23 pm

Fircoal, was your role unlocked? I can't remember. I'll look back...


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:24 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Fircoal, was your role unlocked? I can't remember. I'll look back...


--Andy


No, I got it from the start.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:26 pm

Did you protect yourself on the first night? Or did you go for a random and hoped for good luck?


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:29 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Did you protect yourself on the first night? Or did you go for a random and hoped for good luck?


--Andy


Who me?
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:30 pm

Yes, sorry. Should've posted the name.


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:34 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Yes, sorry. Should've posted the name.


--Andy

Protection LOG:
1st night - Nyvek
2nd night - Red Bull
3rd Night - REd Bull
4th night - ???

Was last night 3rd or 4th night. if it was the 3rd night then it was ???
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:36 pm

Hm, alright. In your role description, it states that you can protect blah blah person during the night, correct? And it makes no mention of the legality of protecting yourself (I.E. you can't do it, or does it say it is allowed)?


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:45 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, alright. In your role description, it states that you can protect blah blah person during the night, correct? And it makes no mention of the legality of protecting yourself (I.E. you can't do it, or does it say it is allowed)?


--Andy


Correct, also it has no mention on whether I can or can not protect myself. Should I quote the Pm and put it in the thread, to show you all? :wink: [size=0]I'm not going to. I'm joking.[/size]
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Postby red bull on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:47 pm

lol alright now that that is out of the way i looked in on someone and came up with protown but no power role.. do you want me to tell you who ????
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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:48 pm

red bull wrote:lol alright now that that is out of the way i looked in on someone and came up with protown but no power role.. do you want me to tell you who ????


I think that would be some good information to know. I'd say yes.
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Postby red bull on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:48 pm

any one else want to see before i open my BIG mouth :lol:
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Postby red bull on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:49 pm

say* :lol: :lol:
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:50 pm

Hm, I'm curious (<---- see) ...I'm starting to develop another theory.


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Postby Fircoal on Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:51 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, I'm curious (<---- see) ...I'm starting to develop another theory.


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