Re-Inquisition Mafia - Heretics win!

[The1exile]

3. Of course you didn't get it. You are scum! You never get stuff when you are scum. There is absolutly no need to apologize for the most usefull of your many tells (see Sherwood mafia for confirmation )

I was gonna say which page, but nah - which set of pages, to the nearest 10?

[mandalorian2298]

3. Of course you didn't get it. You are scum! You never get stuff when you are scum. There is absolutly no need to apologize for the most usefull of your many tells (see Sherwood mafia for confirmation )

I was gonna say which page, but nah - which set of pages, to the nearest 10?

Lol. I bet that you thought that I couldn't do it. Or that I am not crazy enough to try. Here is the quote from Tonka, who confirmed his words by viging Wicked when the Day ended:

alright now to the incredible skimming and submarining tonka post.....

So i missed about 10 pages, and this what ive felt like ive found since. Essentially the simplest scenario is that mandy is a noble and Aegnor is one of the merry men. Its also quite likely that Wicked is amongst the scum, because of the pretty good observation that, the only time wicked seems to not get anything, is when she is defending someone else, especially when its not usually rocket science. Selin fwiw could be either way, but he will probably live to fight another day. I think no matter what line we take, it would be easy to prove mandos alignment by lynching one of the people who are aligned opposite right now. Now i like lynching LSU for being an idiot as much as the next guy, dont get me wrong.

Having said that, Aegnor has looked bad in the last ten pages. Worse than auto did (which was kinda surprising). Basically aegnor for what ive seen has done very little if anything to respond to mandos accusations other than, hey thats not very nice that you accused me sir. If mando is proven right (at least in the short term) then he sets up his timetable for day 3. If he is proven incorrect then he probably gets nightkilled. I think considering the dynamic of this game so far, mando needs to be out there running the show. He has unearthed the majority of the content in the game thus far right or wrong.

Therefore im going to vote today in order to determine his alignment.

unvote Vote Aegnor as he has been the most scummy and this line sets us up best i feel to gain information going into day 2

And here is the link. to page 32 if you feel like checking.

[ga7]

NTIMDHOA but it's true Wicked acted pretty much the same way in Super Mario. Ah well, I'll see what I can do with her quotes in this game tomorrow

[willis]

I'm calling shenanigans on skoffin. She was browsing for a bit, bosted elsewhere but not here.

[willis]

bosted = posted

[wicked]

Mandy, you've said that before, and it wasn't true then and it's still not true now. Yes I was scum ONCE when I asked a question about game possibilities. What about the other 5 times when i wasn't scum and asked then? This is why I don't listen to Mandy... he thinks he's found a "tell", yet no amount of evidence you can provide to the contrary will convince him otherwise. Hey genius, take a gander at Nag's Mario game, or ask anyone I played with there. Same MO, town there as well.

And btw, bringing up possibilities about game roles isn't "not understanding how to play", it's discussing the fact that there are many variations and possibilities within roles for each game.

[wicked]

yes, please go do read that page Mandy linked, as it shows I didn't claim "not to get" anything. thanks for proving my point.

[wicked]

and for the record, next game when you claim this same exact thing, and this game is long over, and it's been proven that I'm town, will you still not believe me then?

[wicked]

All over page 37, about 4-5 questions for Nag.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... &start=540
game over, I was town.
Can we finally end this?

[ga7]

I suggest we leave the metagaming aside for now, it seems pretty pointless. As PCM & Skoffin are at lynch -1, I'm ok with hammering them but I'd like to see votes or reactions about XC first, as I don't see the point if he gets a free pass again.

[Skoffin]

Mhrrr I haven't gone back to re-read yet, but if things are going the same as before I left:
I've had things come up, I have not seen the previous game so I thought when I claimed it might help plus I was kinda hoping I would die then so I'd get out of this.
I thought it odd that some of those saying that there shouldn't be any more recruiters are also saying myself and pancake should be killed off for being possible recruits. If you think it's most likely that no one took over the job then that's silly since we claimed after the recruiter was gone.
If you think the only reason I could be scum is because I'm a potential recruit then there's nothing I can say apart from 'But that person over there is an ever better potential recruit', so I won't bother.
Normally when someone makes a claim people pounce on it and look at it with disbelief, but Koesen's claim was bought pretty quickly, that coupled with wicked 'being better potential then me', inclines me to believe she is scum.

denounce wicked


I really am just a survivor though, so if you do kill me just make sure you take someone else down with me.

[pancakemix]

I really am just a survivor though, so if you do kill me just make sure you take someone else down with me.

Don't worry. I'm likely to join you.

[Koesen]

Koesen's claim was bought pretty quickly

That's because it was such a GREAT claim!

(I am in no way attacking or defending anyone and there are no hidden clues here, I'm just bragging )

[ga7]

Well, I for one think there is no more recruiter. I've been insisting on the day 1 recruit for that reason. But we can't make 100% sure of that, which is why I find Wicked's claim that if one of you is not scum we can lynch her tomorrow pretty ridiculous. But well as she might be scum too, it'll turn out fine The point is, if you hadn't claimed potential janitor & roleblocker, you wouldn't freak out everyone right now. There's no point in taking risks when we're still in the dark.

[Skoffin]

People missed the part where I wanted to die I guess And, y'know, I had no idea about the janitor/role-blocker stuff.

I'm tempted to hammer both myself and pancake and see what happens

[pancakemix]

I'd just like to point out that wicked said she was roleblocked, but Aimless didn't tell her that, so technically it's a lie. That, coupled with the fact that she is holding firm to the speculation that scum might still have a recruiter, makes me think she's trying to get myself and Skoffin lynched and sacrificing herself for another recruit to take over.

Also, for the record, when I posted my claim, I was positive I was gonna take heat for it. If I were scum, I'd have only pointed out Skoffin's, because she'd make an easy lynch at that point (No offense).

[Skoffin]

you guys are assuming everything is the exact same as last time, when Aim pretty much came out and said it wouldn't be. I'm not assuming it's the same at all.

Then what's with the assuming that specific survivor roles do the same thing when recruited?

*brain frazzles*

Well when pancake and I die for purely being 'potential recruits', then it only makes sense that you guys kill Xen and Wicked tomorrow to cover your bases.

[ga7]

Why do you want to die Skoffin? You don't like voting in red?

Anyway yes Pancake I think the whole roleblock thing is a bit fishy. But if you two pop up town, the doc/roleblocker if he really exists can block her again tonight, making her actions pretty useless if she's scum.

For your claim, I know you probably weren't scum yesterday because of that. But if you knew you'd take heat, why did you just discard the possibility of you or Skoffin being recruited? That I don't get.

[pancakemix]

Why do you want to die Skoffin? You don't like voting in red?

Anyway yes Pancake I think the whole roleblock thing is a bit fishy. But if you two pop up town, the doc/roleblocker if he really exists can block her again tonight, making her actions pretty useless if she's scum.

For your claim, I know you probably weren't scum yesterday because of that. But if you knew you'd take heat, why did you just discard the possibility of you or Skoffin being recruited? That I don't get.

Because I don't think there's a recruiter left. But mostly everyone else does.

[wicked]

WHY would I "come out" and say I was blocked if I was scum?? You guys weren't even going after me at that point. I'm the one who said I was bored today and let's debate...lol.

OK you guys think there's no recruiter, fine. But you can't ALSO think I'm scum since I was blocked last night AND there was STILL a kill. Right, there might be a Vig, but then there would be two kills unless the scum recruited last night, which would mean there's still a recruiter! So which is it?

Aim said my night action didn't go through, *I* said blocked b/c what else stops a night action from going through? huh? tell me?!?! duh, a roleblocker!

I assume I do NOT turn into anything like pancake and skoffin have said they do b/c I'm not a survivor. I think pancake was recruited night 1, and that's why he felt he could come out about his role on day 2.

[pancakemix]

WHY would I "come out" and say I was blocked if I was scum?? You guys weren't even going after me at that point. I'm the one who said I was bored today and let's debate...lol.

OK you guys think there's no recruiter, fine. But you can't ALSO think I'm scum since I was blocked last night AND there was STILL a kill. Right, there might be a Vig, but then there would be two kills unless the scum recruited last night, which would mean there's still a recruiter! So which is it?

Aim said my night action didn't go through, *I* said blocked b/c what else stops a night action from going through? huh? tell me?!?! duh, a roleblocker!

I assume I do NOT turn into anything like pancake and skoffin have said they do b/c I'm not a survivor. I think pancake was recruited night 1, and that's why he felt he could come out about his role on day 2.

Are you saying that your whole argument on me is based on a guess?

I'm still not convinced you were telling the truth about being blocked either. You used it to justify a vote on me, then you didn't mention it until it came up again several pages later, instead opting for "He could have been recruited night 1/is a potential recruit now." In other words, lynch me on a speculation.

[Skoffin]

Last time I was a recruiter if I recruited a town powerrole I got a henchmen *with a power role*. So if I recruited a cop, I then had a cop on my side.

[Skoffin]

I clicked too soon <<
So in a way it would still work out if wicked was recruited, say all she could do was investigate then that still fits in with the scenario of vig kill last night.

[wicked]

In other words, lynch me on a speculation.

umm, have you played this game before? we don't KNOW anything until someone is dead, and even then, maybe not. everything is speculation. I went after you b/c you would be a roleblocker if recruited and I was blocked.... sorry, I mean "my action was stopped" (I.E. BLOCKED!)... THAT is why I originally denounced you. this other stuff about you being a threat to the town either way is just more reason for others to lynch you.

No one has come forward with another role (in general, not asking for any claims!) that could "stop a night action" or "not allow an action to go through" or whatever else you want to call BEING ROLE BLOCKED, so it stands to reason I was blocked, as I originally said (except I came to that conclusion much quicker than you seem to want to).

[wicked]

ok, so if recruited, I will just use my power for evil? in that case, if there's a role that'll stop recruiting, go ahead and use it on me tonight... as long as death isn't the only way to stop being recruited! in that case, no thanks!

oh wait, so we're back to there being a recruiter now? you guys seem to argue both for and against it, whichever helps your case at that particular time.