***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

[moz976]

Moz, think for a minute. Why would I knowingly associate myself with IC if I knew he was mafia? It would have been VERY easy to hop on the lynch IC bandwagon.

I agree it was not the smartest thing to associate yourself with Ice maybe you thought the two faced thing would work out better.

I based your association with Ice on how long you defended him. And to me jumping on lynching him would have been a good way to remove any association you had with him after a mistake had been made.

I need to go reread day one again and think about things.

Now isn't that suspicious to you Moz?

I agree that it is suspisios but that goes both ways from what I remember you have always been against him as well.

Like I said I'll go back and reread things. I'd like to hear what some others have to say on this as well though.

[trestain]

tres, do you have anything to back up your suspicions, other than their suspicion of you?

not with Xenhu i only questioned his wording to see what he would say, I don't buy his answers. Before this i didn't really suspect him.
I think he is backing up his mate Master Bush who came out all guns blazing at me with nothing, about 5 or 6 pages ago. Anyway i mentioned that he was being very pushy with his votes, and we swapped several posts, go find them, he suddenley stopped replying when i handed him with evidence to back up what i was saying, this is out of character for master bush, the whole game so far he has been an in your face character.

[HoussamTheGreat]

Ha! You think this post was my defense? You offered nothing to defend against. This post took me 45 minutes to prepare way before I see your pathetic excuse for an accusation!

This one is really simple. We are not in a win condition yet. The town will either lynch you or me. The lynch will either kill a mafia if they choose you, in which case we get rid of you, or a townie if they choose me. In which case you go next anyway, and they can further analyze my post and the voting record of today and get yet another one. Also, if we do lynch you and I mystriously die tonight, then the town knows something else with my thoughts is useful. Looks like this is going to be a good day for the town regardless how the vote goes.

Now enjoy your lunch..

[Bogusbet]

Ha! You think this post was my defense? You offered nothing to defend against. This post took me 45 minutes to prepare way before I see your pathetic excuse for an accusation!

This one is really simple. We are not in a win condition yet. The town will either lynch you or me. The lynch will either kill a mafia if they choose you, in which case we get rid of you, or a townie if they choose me. In which case you go next anyway, and they can further analyze my post and the voting record of today and get yet another one. Also, if we do lynch you and I mystriously die tonight, then the town knows something else with my thoughts is useful. Looks like this is going to be a good day for the town regardless how the vote goes.

Now enjoy your lunch..

And you are talking to.....

[HoussamTheGreat]

To wicked bogus. Sorry thought it was obvious.

[wicked]

Moz, I went after IC after the votes for him were dwindling. I did not jump on the bandwagon. Cram's the one who got me to re-think my position, as he made it obvious he was a mason too.

[wicked]

Houssam, what do they have to analyze from you???? All you've done is vote me!!

[HoussamTheGreat]

Moz, I went after IC after the votes for him were dwindling. I did not jump on the bandwagon. Cram's the one who got me to re-think my position, as he made it obvious he was a mason too.

Precisely! You went after ic when the votes were already shifting away from him. You get the vote on the record, and get to keep IC around. What was your point again?

[wicked]

W: does anyone think there's any significance to the townies who were here when the outbreak started,
or came back to town when the outbreak started?

H: RED HERRING NUMBER 2 - DIDN"T GO ANYWHERE BUT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO THROW US IN ENDLESS CIRCLES.

Actually, that was when I was questioning RK's info that didn't match IC's. I wanted to have a reason for my questioning of his location, as at the time I was trying to get him to trip up and not agree with IC.

[Freetymes]

Well I am outta here in about a half hour so I will think on it a bit more but I think Houssam has a point. him and wicked seem to be the town targets today.

I have not had that bad of a feeling about Houssam and other than wicked not many have said much about him. I do not trust him but...

When you think about Wicked.

Auto was sure she was mafia...
Her voting record...
her incessant attacks on Houssam...
Her on again off again support for AK...
Her amazement at being alive this morning due to what MB said but now she says she knew MB to be a mason (so why would his words make her think the mafia would kill her?)

BIG FOS for Wicked and more and more to MB

I will vote before I go home....

Any rebuttle you two?

[wicked]

Precisely! You went after ic when the votes were already shifting away from him. You get the vote on the record, and get to keep IC around. What was your point again?

Maybe that would be true if it was down to 1 or 2 votes, but it was higher than that. I don't recall exactly how many.

Sigh... well it looks like it'll come down to one of us tonight, unless new info surfaces. This was I was delaying posting my info against you, since I knew this would happen and I was trying to generate as much discussion as possible from the people not speaking much.

[HoussamTheGreat]

Wicked: how thoughtful and so incredibly wise.

Freetymes: I agree with everything you have said. Not feeling the need to rebut anything.

[wicked]

I have not had that bad of a feeling about Houssam and other than wicked not many have said much about him. I do not trust him but...

hmm.... maybe because I've posted much more, and have stuck my neck out much more trying to find out who's mafia?????? and he's done NOTHING???? Gee, which one looks like mafia to you? duh!

When you think about Wicked.

Auto was sure she was mafia... I'll have to go back and find this. I doubt he was "sure" since he had only done one investigation and we know that to be IC. I'm sure he was suspicious, as at that time I was defending IC.

Her voting record... uhh.... IC and IC?
her incessant attacks on Houssam... only b/c he's attacking me, although I've been going after other people as well, not just one person like Houssam has.

Her on again off again support for AK... agreed, anytime someone supports someone who's later found out to be mafia, they then look suspicious, just as you do now Free in your defense of Houssam.

Her amazement at being alive this morning due to what MB said but now she says she knew MB to be a mason (so why would his words make her think the mafia would kill her?) It was Cram. already answered and explained, go back and read.

[Bogusbet]

OK here it is;

VOTE WICKED

Sorry babe, I can't trust you.

Fellow townies ignore my trust votes earlier, she fooled me before and even if I'm wrong it will ease confusion and cement trust in MB.

Vote with me and lets get this going.

[Master Bush]

I have a theory on HoussamTheGreat and Wicked.

The are ex husband and wife, who hate each other. So what if their role was to go at each other the whole game, trying to get the other one lynched, even though neither are mafia?

Crazy idea?

[wicked]

SO - OUR COP IS TELLING US IC IS MAFIA. YET - HER BRILLIANT IDEA IS TO IGNORE THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW
WHETHER OUR COP (WHO NOW WOULD BE KILLED FOR SURE) IS TRUSTWORTHY OR NOT.

Yes, it was a valid theory shared by many townies at the time.

I went back and read your entire "accusation" again, and it's completely baseless. You're taking my words vs. today's knowledge, not against everyone's frame of mind at the time. Unlike you Houssam, I'm in the dark here! Of course I'll say stuff that in the future may make me look guilty. I don't have the luxury of knowing who's on which side at this point. So I could say "Cram said X and it makes him look suspicious" AND "Cram said Y and I agree with that" .... EITHER one can be pulled out and used against me, depending on what side Cram ultimately lies on. So you see how your quotes of me are baseless?

Now if I NEVER said ANYTHING about ANYBODY like YOU, no one would have much to use against me, now would they? I'm suspicious purely because I post alot and don't know the answers, so venture guesses and stick my neck out. I hope my fellow townies realize this. Go back and check my previous games... did I appear as clueless then? I was only ever a townie once before, and luckily I was a mason, so had a guiding hand the whole way. This is my first time flying solo ... and it SUCKS! Now go back and look at Houssam's previous game. He was much more talkative and inquisitive, acted like a townie b/c he was a townie then.

[wicked]

great Bogey, so because I played a good mafia before, I now can't be trusted in all future games?

[XenHu]

I have a theory on HoussamTheGreat and Wicked.

The are ex husband and wife, who hate each other. So what if their role was to go at each other the whole game, trying to get the other one lynched, even though neither are mafia?

Crazy idea?

Not crazy, quite plausable.

Quote from Wikipedia: Some roles can fool investigations to determine their alignments: the Miller is an Innocent who appears guilty (usually because they are an outsider); the Godfather, on the other hand, appears innocent despite being the leader of the Mafia. The Alpha Wolf is analogous to the Godfather, while the Traitor works with their vote during the day cycle to protect Mafia and hamper the town. The Village Idiot's objective is to get the town to kill him. The Rat or Undercover Cop is a mole within the Mafia group.

[Master Bush]

We need to lynched someone who has not been talking a lot.

Broom
Freetymes
trestain
Wicked <- has been talking the most, but is in the tower.

We all seem to be posting...

Then a page later he states

I believe that Bogusbet & Trestain are both Mafia. With Moz being the 4th Mafia member if there is a 4th.

AK Iceman - Hospital
Bogusbet - Generator Complex
Trestain - Broadcast Towers

Which is it Missa Bush? You name nearly everybody but yourself. then after trying to stir the pot you are nowhere to be seen.
This is worth an FOS!

All in all this game makes you think everyone but yourself is mafia but the above things stand out to me so far.

It was both. I called out Trestain and Bogusbet, both of whom haven't had talked all that much up to that point. Both voted for autoload, but then didn't vote for AK. And one is in the Generator Complex and the other is in the Broadcast Towers. All of which are reason why I think they are mafia. And I was nowhere to be found, because I had work to do today, like I always do.

[wicked]

I have a theory on HoussamTheGreat and Wicked.

The are ex husband and wife, who hate each other. So what if their role was to go at each other the whole game, trying to get the other one lynched, even though neither are mafia?

Crazy idea?

That's certainly a theory MB, but I wasn't told that in my PM. Could very well be Houssam was told lynching me was his win condition, but that would be too easy of a win condition?

[Bogusbet]

great Bogey, so because I played a good mafia before, I now can't be trusted in all future games?

I'm band wagoning, and I just don't trust you. I really want you to be a townie, now tell me in less than 100 words why I should switch my vote. If it's good I'm willing to trust anothert day MAX. unless your proved correct and Hussam is guilty.

[XenHu]

^^^^However I don't think the above is the case in this game^^^...


-X

[XenHu]

^^^^However I don't think the above is the case in this game^^^...


-X

This was meant for my 'Village Idiot'' post..


-X

[Bogusbet]

^^^^However I don't think the above is the case in this game^^^...


-X

The above what?

[wicked]

Bogey, I've been pleading my case this entire time. I don't know what else to say to convince you. All I can say is trust in your poker odds... things average out over time.... just like the CC dice!