HP: fight for freedom. Game over. Wizards won.

[freezie]

Firstly, you do this solely at work?

Secondly, Talos no, L-1. Unvote

No, I do this solely at home

[alt1978]

I am waiting for dazza's response but a mafia busdriver seemed a likely scenario to me. Given the circumstances, the investigation, the fact that safari may have died protecting ib...and given dazza's so far unconvincing defense, I am prone to vote dazza here unless he has something strong to bring to the table.

[dazza2008]

I am a third party survivor. I can win with town or scum. But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

So I am playing as town as it is my best chance to win.

I cannot post the green part of my pm as it got deleted. I got a load of pm's in one go and it got automatically deleted. I will pm the mod right now and ask him to resend it. I will post it as soon as he does.

[thehippo8]

But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

Hmm, was the first is intentional to make us think you meant if but really you were just speaking gibberish. If you are a third party you can win as either town or scum and no doubt you have a night power which is nothing short of terrifying for the average townfolk. SO, not sure what you meant, other than trying to muddy the waters. I think what you may have meant is that you'd like to be thought of as town so that you are not lynched - but your post is not altogether pleasing or impressive.

[dazza2008]

But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

Hmm, was the first is intentional to make us think you meant if but really you were just speaking gibberish. If you are a third party you can win as either town or scum and no doubt you have a night power which is nothing short of terrifying for the average townfolk. SO, not sure what you meant, other than trying to muddy the waters. I think what you may have meant is that you'd like to be thought of as town so that you are not lynched - but your post is not altogether pleasing or impressive.

I meant "if". Clearly it was a mis-type and if anyone is muddying the waters it is you.

I have no night action. I am just a survivor who needs Vodemort dead to win.

[thehippo8]

But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

Hmm, was the first is intentional to make us think you meant if but really you were just speaking gibberish. If you are a third party you can win as either town or scum and no doubt you have a night power which is nothing short of terrifying for the average townfolk. SO, not sure what you meant, other than trying to muddy the waters. I think what you may have meant is that you'd like to be thought of as town so that you are not lynched - but your post is not altogether pleasing or impressive.

I meant "if". Clearly it was a mis-type and if anyone is muddying the waters it is you.

I have no night action. I am just a survivor who needs Vodemort dead to win.

There you go! Hmm, I'm actually inclined to believe you. No hysterical response, and more info. I'd rather go after scum, so ... unvote. But let me hand the ball to you and ask you what special powers you have. I doubt anyone else is going to unvote without understanding that. I've never heard of a dead fish third party before. Are you masoned with anyone? Can you do anything? And, particularly, who do you think is worthy of further investigation at this stage?

[dazza2008]

But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

Hmm, was the first is intentional to make us think you meant if but really you were just speaking gibberish. If you are a third party you can win as either town or scum and no doubt you have a night power which is nothing short of terrifying for the average townfolk. SO, not sure what you meant, other than trying to muddy the waters. I think what you may have meant is that you'd like to be thought of as town so that you are not lynched - but your post is not altogether pleasing or impressive.

I meant "if". Clearly it was a mis-type and if anyone is muddying the waters it is you.

I have no night action. I am just a survivor who needs Vodemort dead to win.

There you go! Hmm, I'm actually inclined to believe you. No hysterical response, and more info. I'd rather go after scum, so ... unvote. But let me hand the ball to you and ask you what special powers you have. I doubt anyone else is going to unvote without understanding that. I've never heard of a dead fish third party before. Are you masoned with anyone? Can you do anything? And, particularly, who do you think is worthy of further investigation at this stage?

I just said I have no night action. You seem to be asking me the same thing again.

Have you never seen a third party survivor before???

[thehippo8]

But I can only win is Voldemort is dead.

Hmm, was the first is intentional to make us think you meant if but really you were just speaking gibberish. If you are a third party you can win as either town or scum and no doubt you have a night power which is nothing short of terrifying for the average townfolk. SO, not sure what you meant, other than trying to muddy the waters. I think what you may have meant is that you'd like to be thought of as town so that you are not lynched - but your post is not altogether pleasing or impressive.

I meant "if". Clearly it was a mis-type and if anyone is muddying the waters it is you.

I have no night action. I am just a survivor who needs Vodemort dead to win.

There you go! Hmm, I'm actually inclined to believe you. No hysterical response, and more info. I'd rather go after scum, so ... unvote. But let me hand the ball to you and ask you what special powers you have. I doubt anyone else is going to unvote without understanding that. I've never heard of a dead fish third party before. Are you masoned with anyone? Can you do anything? And, particularly, who do you think is worthy of further investigation at this stage?

I just said I have no night action. You seem to be asking me the same thing again.

Have you never seen a third party survivor before???

I am a third party survivor in another game. I have a night power in that game (as tracker) and I am masoned to boot!! So, don't come the raw prawn with me!! Seriously, if you don't have a night action do you have a day action?? That makes little sense to me. And getting snarky doesn't add to your cause. So, are you saying that you are a third party with no power, no masoning, no nothing? It may be true, I just want to know what your claim is.

[thehippo8]

While you're at it, and since you are being so helpful, you might like to answer my last question!

[dazza2008]

I have no action day or night.

I was not being "snarky". I just thought it was clear. Sorry. I am just a survivor. I can win with scum or town or anyone but I need Voldemort dead.

[thehippo8]

I have no action day or night.

I was not being "snarky". I just thought it was clear. Sorry. I am just a survivor. I can win with scum or town or anyone but I need Voldemort dead.

No problem. Any ideas on who we should pressure next?

[dazza2008]

I have no action day or night.

I was not being "snarky". I just thought it was clear. Sorry. I am just a survivor. I can win with scum or town or anyone but I need Voldemort dead.

No problem. Any ideas on who we should pressure next?

I am pretty confused really to be honest. I will reread the thread and see if I can spot anything.

[Iron Butterfly]

It is possible he is a third party with a survivor condition. That way if deatheaters win he is a deatheater but if deatheaters loose he flips town? But, yah, the night action is very important.

WOW. What do you plan on feeding him for desert?

[dazza2008]

It is possible he is a third party with a survivor condition. That way if deatheaters win he is a deatheater but if deatheaters loose he flips town? But, yah, the night action is very important.

WOW. What do you plan on feeding him for desert?

I wish I just fully claimed from the start to be honest. I knew as soon as I saw this that it is what some of you would think. Lynch me if you want guys but sonner or later you will need to start lynching deatheaters or you are screwed. You have got none of them so far.

[strike wolf]

I'm pretty sure this is a lie. From what Jonty (Harry) said day 1 about his role scum would lose if Voldemort dies.

[dazza2008]

I'm pretty sure this is a lie. From what Jonty (Harry) said day 1 about his role scum would lose if Voldemort dies.

Can you explain what you mean? I am confused.

If all we need to do to win is lynch 1 player why did we net just do a mass claim right at the start? I took it to mean if jonty found him the town would win not just if anyone killed him.

[Djfireside]

Dazza's claim makes me a bit uneasy. I did have a idea what they would have been which would have made me feel a bit better but survivor doesnt sit well with me. Especially since survivor normally comes after an action, such as third party paired, one power one support and power dies other is survivor now. Is it impossible? I dont know but Obviously we are on to something in that no deaths were reported yesterday and the claim just doesnt seem to add up. I would be curious for the green part but im leaning into dazza not being who they say they are.

[dazza2008]

I don't get why everyone thinks a survivor has to have an action. I know they can have one but in my experince they more often have no action. Is that wrong?

[Nebuchadnezer]

I don't get why everyone thinks a survivor has to have an action. I know they can have one but in my experince they more often have no action. Is that wrong?

Whether or not he has a night action doesn't matter to me. He's third party and wins with whoever is left. I doubt how useful he'll be to town, since he really doesn't care who wins. He's just in it for himself. He's already referred to town as "you guys", which again indicates his play will be self serving. I'd rather not have him running around.

Also, iron got a guilty...not ' third party'...this could all be a lie. My vote stays.

[dazza2008]

I don't get why everyone thinks a survivor has to have an action. I know they can have one but in my experince they more often have no action. Is that wrong?

Whether or not he has a night action doesn't matter to me. He's third party and wins with whoever is left. I doubt how useful he'll be to town, since he really doesn't care who wins. He's just in it for himself. He's already referred to town as "you guys", which again indicates his play will be self serving. I'd rather not have him running around.

Also, iron got a guilty...not ' third party'...this could all be a lie. My vote stays.

Well I said you guys because I am not town. I am not but I need voldemort dead so I am going to help with scumhunting. Like I say lynch me if you want but at some stage you should think about lynching scum. We have not lynched any so far and the deatheaters are going to be too strong soon.

[mc05025]

Well, Dazza said he is a third party when IB said he is a deatheater.

One of them is lying

I tend to believe Dazza more than IB and for that reason

Vote Iron Butterfly

[spiesr]

Prove what? My speculation, no. That I still have a tracking ability, yes.

That reminds me, did you ever clarify what abilities you have as a sort of JOAT?

Iron Butterfly, did you ever answer this? I need you to do so, and if you refuse I will be forced to assume you are scum.

[Iron Butterfly]

Prove what? My speculation, no. That I still have a tracking ability, yes.

That reminds me, did you ever clarify what abilities you have as a sort of JOAT?

Iron Butterfly, did you ever answer this? I need you to do so, and if you refuse I will be forced to assume you are scum.

What exactly am I suppose to answer? You are asking me about Chaps JOAT abilities? Please clarify what exactly it is you are asking of me as it appears that you are asking about Chap.

Here is my opinion on Dazza. I suspected him on day one of being scum because of his gameplay. I investigated and he investigated as "Deatheater".

Why would he appear as "Deatheater" if he is third party? One of two reasons. First he is telling the truth and really is a survivor but
Freezie put him in game to act as a "red herring" to further confuse. He makes Dazza's role more difficult and Towns job more difficult. His character claim also explains how he could register as a Deatheater.

The other option is that he is a Deatheater.

[alt1978]

Well, Dazza said he is a third party when IB said he is a deatheater.

One of them is lying

I tend to believe Dazza more than IB and for that reason

Vote Iron Butterfly

I agree that one of them is lying, but not having a role or power doesn't sit right with me. If anything, the roles have been extravagant for the players so far. It's too much of a stretch for me to buy third party survivor with no role.

Also, the risk/reward weighs heavily in favor of Dazza of IB. IB if he is telling truth, is not completely useless to town (action wise). Dazza is saying that he is completely useless even if he is telling truth. For me, lynching dazza makes the most sense. If dazza comes up third party, I think it gives us some good leads to work with.

Vote Dazza

[spiesr]

What exactly am I suppose to answer? You are asking me about Chaps JOAT abilities? Please clarify what exactly it is you are asking of me as it appears that you are asking about Chap.

Sorry, about that, I quoted the wrong post of mine. The question I meant to insist you answer is:

I cant speak for chap. My investigation came back, your investigation reveals a Deatheater. Positive means sucess in my investigation in flushing out a bad guy. Its a matter of perspective I guess.

So, the exact result that you got from your investigation is "Positive"?