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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:56 pm

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mc05025 wrote:Well, Dazza said he is a third party when IB said he is a deatheater.

One of them is lying

I tend to believe Dazza more than IB and for that reason

Vote Iron Butterfly


I agree that one of them is lying, but not having a role or power doesn't sit right with me. If anything, the roles have been extravagant for the players so far. It's too much of a stretch for me to buy third party survivor with no role.

Also, the risk/reward weighs heavily in favor of Dazza of IB. IB if he is telling truth, is not completely useless to town (action wise). Dazza is saying that he is completely useless even if he is telling truth. For me, lynching dazza makes the most sense. If dazza comes up third party, I think it gives us some good leads to work with.

Vote Dazza


Thanks :cry:

I am Vanilla Townie in some other games so I might as well just get mod-killed in them since I am useless.

I am not useless mate. I have the power to vote and you could need that later to lynch a deatheater when we get near the end.

I always think it is stupid to lynch a third party when there are people out there killing you all but if you think it will help crack on.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Djfireside on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:34 pm

As stated I have a problem with Dazza's role as it doesnt seem to fit. In giving information though I did find this on IB in reading and appears to be contradictory and making me question some other things as well.


Iron Butterfly wrote:Hey Folks,

Sorry we have had a family emergency so I will be out this weekend. I will try to post once a day but I cant garauntee it. So my lack of posting is a result of what had been going on here.
....................

To matters on hand.

Professor Firenze ā€œCentaur Vigilanteā€

ā€œYou are a Centaur, who is part of the Forbidden Forest Centaur Colony, and a professor of divination
at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. You were hired by Albus Dumbledor to replace Sybil Trelawny after she was forced out by Dolores Umbridge. You have faced down the evil that now confronts Hogwarts before and will fight till till your dieing breath to prevent a Deatheater victory.ā€

I have also been given the ability to investigate two players. I investigated Dazza and he came back positive. I investigated Chap and could not get a read one way or the other, which puzzles me. I do not know if I was blocked as there are a variety of possibilties.

My main ability is the abilty to kill death eaters but it is extremly difficult to use. It seems to me better suited to endgame. I can not just send in a players name because I believe they are a death eater. I need to send in the name of the player and predict the death eaters name.

I thought Chap was FOSing me because he somehow knew I tried to investigate him. I had no idea he tried to kill me. Why I lived I do not know. Chap seems to think that I am Mafia and and that they bus drove me with Safari the night he targeted me.
From a Mafia point of view that would be a silly sacrifice early in the game...especially knowing that Safari would die anyways. Why sacrifice a mafia member whose role has been exposed and who dies if his role works. Theres no need to frame someone whos dead anyways. Thats just my WIFOM point of view.

I will try and post as best I can. It seems everytime I am in a good game somthing happens to limit my participation.


Now at this point there is no mention of the third day for Dazza and in his statement he is saying overall that he is clean. Now to the next statement.

Iron Butterfly wrote:I have made it a habbit not to cut and paste anything since Magic the Gathering. In that game I was asked to claim and I cut and pasted not realizing I had suicided myself. It was during the endgame and a very important part of the game. From that silly mistake.

I tend to make silly mistakes like that. I also got killed in Office Mafia for the exact same reason that Safari had to claim this game. I asked what I thought was a perfectly innocent question while scum hunting about the colors of player names. It seems the mod made everyone green for that game. Check out Office Mafia in the archives. It sucks dieing over silly innocent mistakes. LOL the irony. MtG I died for cut and pasting and this game folks want me lynched because I type to prevent such a mistake.

You are Professor Firenze ( Centaur Vigilante )

You are a Centaur, who is part of the Forbidden Forest Centaur Colony, and a professor of divination at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. You were hired by Albus Dumbledor to replace Sybil Trelawny after she was forced out by Dolores Umbridge. You have faced down the evil that now confronts Hogwarts before and will fight till till your dieing breath to prevent a Deatheater victory.

Here is my view on my role. I beleive there is a primary investigative power out there and we have found folks like Chap and myself. I did not want my investigative power to overlap anyone elses so I followed my own hunches. I didnt investigate Sparticas because I figured that he was such a central figure to our debate that one way or the other we would find out who he was. I truely beleived him which is why I fought so hard for him. I beleived him as Snapes partly because I truly beleived he could help us find mafia. My mistake with him was that I meta gamed him from his lynched charachter. I beleived him from his delivery.

My investigations

On night one I investigated Dazza. Why did I not investigate Jonty or Safari one may ask. The reason is simple. Harry Potter would have been a silly fake claim and with Safari he would have been lynched, sacrificed or mafia killed and his claim was not a threat. I did have my doubts about him but I felt it a good idea to find out what else is out there. Dazza was submarining big time and when he did say somthing it was nothing of relivence.

Night two I investigated Chap. One may ask why not Sparticas as but I explained my thinking above. Chap just seemed to be quoting Harry potter lore and tearing folks aprt because they didnt fit the lore. Sparticas was lynched because of the meaning of a word...granted his own play didnt help him, but the lore was a reason. With Chap I am puzzled because I did not get a result. I also do not have another left so the charge was used.

Night three I tried to see if Dazza was Voldamort. Dazza is still alive.

I am surprised no one has asked where he is and what has taken him so long to respond. That is all for now. I think I covered everything. If you have anything else ask. I will be back Sunday evening. I do check in from time to time but I wont have any time for an in depth response till late tommorow evening.


Why would you stay on someone if they were positive? Chap coming back inconclusive is something I want to think about again but what occured with dazza is urking me and so is Dazza's claim.

so far we had

Chap accused IB
Ib claimed non wizard (centaur) and Chap backed off
IB linked Dazza above
Dazza claimed third party.

Sadly they all could be telling the truth. I guess I want to hear what anyone else thinks of this or if its nothing.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Djfireside on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:36 pm

As I was reading this again, I think I answered my own question. Been up for about 24 hours... Dont mind me Im just wasting space here :(
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Djfireside on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:08 pm

Well as stated I had a problem with the claim of Dazza's and with my mistake on IB's statement... (need more caffine) and chap backing off on IB after the push I will give IB the benefit of the doubt for a few reasons.

If we are wrong IB better hope that the scene gives him something cause if not he is on the list.

Your statement on a vote is correct and if he is telling the truth then he has more of a viablility to him in the end game as stated and in either sense if we are wrong, two are going down for it.

Im not 100% on this but I think its time to take a gamble as since you claimed I had that nagging feeling that it just didnt fit. I can see how it may in a long shot fit but willing to take the risk on it.

Just hope our luck lasts the night as it did last night

Good night Gracie

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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:16 pm

Spiesr...to answer your question..."Your investigation reveals a Deatheater" That is the complete response. There was no written positive or negative if that is what you are asking.

DJ... I targeted Dazza to try and kill him as Voldemort using my night action.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:59 pm

I'm back from my holiday now. Lot's to read. Lot's of interesting stuff. But can we have a vote count please mod, I con't work out if that's L1 or lynch.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:00 pm

Djfireside wrote:Well as stated I had a problem with the claim of Dazza's and with my mistake on IB's statement... (need more caffine) and chap backing off on IB after the push I will give IB the benefit of the doubt for a few reasons.

If we are wrong IB better hope that the scene gives him something cause if not he is on the list.

Your statement on a vote is correct and if he is telling the truth then he has more of a viablility to him in the end game as stated and in either sense if we are wrong, two are going down for it.

Im not 100% on this but I think its time to take a gamble as since you claimed I had that nagging feeling that it just didnt fit. I can see how it may in a long shot fit but willing to take the risk on it.

Just hope our luck lasts the night as it did last night

Good night Gracie

Vote Dazza


Good nigh....oh, crap, he's still at L-1...two new votes, two unvotes...anyone want to take the glory here?
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:04 pm

Djfireside wrote:As stated I have a problem with Dazza's role as it doesnt seem to fit. In giving information though I did find this on IB in reading and appears to be contradictory and making me question some other things as well.


Iron Butterfly wrote:Hey Folks,

Sorry we have had a family emergency so I will be out this weekend. I will try to post once a day but I cant garauntee it. So my lack of posting is a result of what had been going on here.
....................

To matters on hand.

Professor Firenze ā€œCentaur Vigilanteā€

ā€œYou are a Centaur, who is part of the Forbidden Forest Centaur Colony, and a professor of divination
at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. You were hired by Albus Dumbledor to replace Sybil Trelawny after she was forced out by Dolores Umbridge. You have faced down the evil that now confronts Hogwarts before and will fight till till your dieing breath to prevent a Deatheater victory.ā€

I have also been given the ability to investigate two players. I investigated Dazza and he came back positive. I investigated Chap and could not get a read one way or the other, which puzzles me. I do not know if I was blocked as there are a variety of possibilties.

My main ability is the abilty to kill death eaters but it is extremly difficult to use. It seems to me better suited to endgame. I can not just send in a players name because I believe they are a death eater. I need to send in the name of the player and predict the death eaters name.

I thought Chap was FOSing me because he somehow knew I tried to investigate him. I had no idea he tried to kill me. Why I lived I do not know. Chap seems to think that I am Mafia and and that they bus drove me with Safari the night he targeted me.
From a Mafia point of view that would be a silly sacrifice early in the game...especially knowing that Safari would die anyways. Why sacrifice a mafia member whose role has been exposed and who dies if his role works. Theres no need to frame someone whos dead anyways. Thats just my WIFOM point of view.

I will try and post as best I can. It seems everytime I am in a good game somthing happens to limit my participation.


Now at this point there is no mention of the third day for Dazza and in his statement he is saying overall that he is clean. Now to the next statement.

Iron Butterfly wrote:I have made it a habbit not to cut and paste anything since Magic the Gathering. In that game I was asked to claim and I cut and pasted not realizing I had suicided myself. It was during the endgame and a very important part of the game. From that silly mistake.

I tend to make silly mistakes like that. I also got killed in Office Mafia for the exact same reason that Safari had to claim this game. I asked what I thought was a perfectly innocent question while scum hunting about the colors of player names. It seems the mod made everyone green for that game. Check out Office Mafia in the archives. It sucks dieing over silly innocent mistakes. LOL the irony. MtG I died for cut and pasting and this game folks want me lynched because I type to prevent such a mistake.

You are Professor Firenze ( Centaur Vigilante )

You are a Centaur, who is part of the Forbidden Forest Centaur Colony, and a professor of divination at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. You were hired by Albus Dumbledor to replace Sybil Trelawny after she was forced out by Dolores Umbridge. You have faced down the evil that now confronts Hogwarts before and will fight till till your dieing breath to prevent a Deatheater victory.

Here is my view on my role. I beleive there is a primary investigative power out there and we have found folks like Chap and myself. I did not want my investigative power to overlap anyone elses so I followed my own hunches. I didnt investigate Sparticas because I figured that he was such a central figure to our debate that one way or the other we would find out who he was. I truely beleived him which is why I fought so hard for him. I beleived him as Snapes partly because I truly beleived he could help us find mafia. My mistake with him was that I meta gamed him from his lynched charachter. I beleived him from his delivery.

My investigations

On night one I investigated Dazza. Why did I not investigate Jonty or Safari one may ask. The reason is simple. Harry Potter would have been a silly fake claim and with Safari he would have been lynched, sacrificed or mafia killed and his claim was not a threat. I did have my doubts about him but I felt it a good idea to find out what else is out there. Dazza was submarining big time and when he did say somthing it was nothing of relivence.

Night two I investigated Chap. One may ask why not Sparticas as but I explained my thinking above. Chap just seemed to be quoting Harry potter lore and tearing folks aprt because they didnt fit the lore. Sparticas was lynched because of the meaning of a word...granted his own play didnt help him, but the lore was a reason. With Chap I am puzzled because I did not get a result. I also do not have another left so the charge was used.

Night three I tried to see if Dazza was Voldamort. Dazza is still alive.

I am surprised no one has asked where he is and what has taken him so long to respond. That is all for now. I think I covered everything. If you have anything else ask. I will be back Sunday evening. I do check in from time to time but I wont have any time for an in depth response till late tommorow evening.


Why would you stay on someone if they were positive? Chap coming back inconclusive is something I want to think about again but what occured with dazza is urking me and so is Dazza's claim.

so far we had

Chap accused IB
Ib claimed non wizard (centaur) and Chap backed off
IB linked Dazza above
Dazza claimed third party.

Sadly they all could be telling the truth. I guess I want to hear what anyone else thinks of this or if its nothing.


While we contemplate this...DJfireside brings up an interesting point...

1. Iron got no result on Chap.
2. If I recall correctly, Chap had no night action last night either.
3. Here's the WIFOM...do we have a Jailer that grabbed Chap last night?

That's all...
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:01 pm

I have no problem with a night-actionless survivor. (Why people believe that is strange is beyond me.) What I do have a problem with is his "Voldy must be dead to win" condiction. It makes no sense. When Voldy dies, in all likelihood, the game will be over.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:41 pm

Vote Count:

Iron Butterfly (2): Dazza, McHammer
L-1 Dazza (7): Nebuchadnezer, Iron Butterfly, Strike Wolf, Tailgunner, Pancakemix, Alt, Djfireside


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline in 4 days.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby strike wolf on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:09 pm

dazza2008 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:I'm pretty sure this is a lie. From what Jonty (Harry) said day 1 about his role scum would lose if Voldemort dies.


Can you explain what you mean? I am confused.

If all we need to do to win is lynch 1 player why did we net just do a mass claim right at the start? I took it to mean if jonty found him the town would win not just if anyone killed him.


I may have misread a bit (sorry). Still it is my interpretation from the post that town wins when voldemort is killed.

dazza2008 wrote:
alt1978 wrote:
mc05025 wrote:Well, Dazza said he is a third party when IB said he is a deatheater.

One of them is lying

I tend to believe Dazza more than IB and for that reason

Vote Iron Butterfly


I agree that one of them is lying, but not having a role or power doesn't sit right with me. If anything, the roles have been extravagant for the players so far. It's too much of a stretch for me to buy third party survivor with no role.

Also, the risk/reward weighs heavily in favor of Dazza of IB. IB if he is telling truth, is not completely useless to town (action wise). Dazza is saying that he is completely useless even if he is telling truth. For me, lynching dazza makes the most sense. If dazza comes up third party, I think it gives us some good leads to work with.

Vote Dazza


Thanks :cry:

I am Vanilla Townie in some other games so I might as well just get mod-killed in them since I am useless.

I am not useless mate. I have the power to vote and you could need that later to lynch a deatheater when we get near the end.

I always think it is stupid to lynch a third party when there are people out there killing you all but if you think it will help crack on.


One of the big differences between a third party survivor and a vanilla is the limited incentive you have for helping town. Quite possible that once Voldemort would die you could just check out of the game and wait for mafia to outnumber town.

everywhere116 wrote:I have no problem with a night-actionless survivor. (Why people believe that is strange is beyond me.) What I do have a problem with is his "Voldy must be dead to win" condiction. It makes no sense. When Voldy dies, in all likelihood, the game will be over.


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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:18 am

I still don't see why if all we need to do is kill 1 player why we have not mass claimed yet. It would be the fasted way to catch Voldemort would it not?

Jonty said if he finds him town win. He can't as he got killed. I need him dead so I am helping the town catch scum here.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:34 am

dazza2008 wrote:I still don't see why if all we need to do is kill 1 player why we have not mass claimed yet. It would be the fasted way to catch Voldemort would it not?

Jonty said if he finds him town win. He can't as he got killed. I need him dead so I am helping the town catch scum here.


This from you Dazza? No way! unvote vote dazza
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:45 am

thehippo8 wrote:
dazza2008 wrote:I still don't see why if all we need to do is kill 1 player why we have not mass claimed yet. It would be the fasted way to catch Voldemort would it not?

Jonty said if he finds him town win. He can't as he got killed. I need him dead so I am helping the town catch scum here.


This from you Dazza? No way! unvote vote dazza


I don't get what you mean. If all we need is to kill one player this would be the easiest game ever.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby chapcrap on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:16 am

Well, had a couple of days off for the birth of my child... Just read through everything.

First of all, dazza's claim fits. That doesn't mean he is telling the truth. But, flavor-wise and gameplay-wise, there is nothing wrong with it all all. In my estimation, IB has acted scummier throughout the game and the way his alleged result was worded was not the same as mine, which makes me think that something fishy is going on...
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Your investigation reveals a Deatheater"


However, I think that hippo just lynched dazza. What is the problem with waiting to get more discussion before a lynch? We aren't on the deadline yet, are we?
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:28 am

chapcrap wrote:Well, had a couple of days off for the birth of my child... Just read through everything.

First of all, dazza's claim fits. That doesn't mean he is telling the truth. But, flavor-wise and gameplay-wise, there is nothing wrong with it all all. In my estimation, IB has acted scummier throughout the game and the way his alleged result was worded was not the same as mine, which makes me think that something fishy is going on...
Iron Butterfly wrote:"Your investigation reveals a Deatheater"


However, I think that hippo just lynched dazza. What is the problem with waiting to get more discussion before a lynch? We aren't on the deadline yet, are we?


Oh yeah I'm dead. GG.

Congrats on the baby bud. Hope all is well.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:37 am

FOS Hippo for the way he flew in with that vote. Dazza was the consensus lynch however he kind of just flew in there at the last minute..
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:01 am

Did I mention the bomb part? Hippo just died too :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Leehar on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:13 am

Whats with everyone claiming before the scene? >_>
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:23 am

Leehar wrote:Whats with everyone claiming before the scene? >_>


I claimed before I was lynched.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:26 am

If the bomb part is true than this scene is going to be hilarious.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Leehar on Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:43 am

dazza2008 wrote:
Leehar wrote:Whats with everyone claiming before the scene? >_>


I claimed before I was lynched.

It's just that any last words are supposed to be before you die, not after it.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:04 am

Leehar wrote:
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Leehar wrote:Whats with everyone claiming before the scene? >_>


I claimed before I was lynched.

It's just that any last words are supposed to be before you die, not after it.


Sorry 8-[

If I knew it was so serious I would have never gotten involved.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby Djfireside on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:13 am

well in all effectiveness until he is lynched he is alive. Thats one for debate but technically not dead until we string him up, we just decided we were going to lynch him and havent yet. You are at least safe with your comment in my book.

This should be interesting and I knew there was something wrong with your claim.
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Re: HP: fight for freedom. Day 4. A calm night. (14/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:27 am

Really would it matter a fucking tiny wee bit if I am dead or not? If what I said is true or not?

It won't change anything of the game will it? Anyway sorry if I have upset anyone. Good game.
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