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Postby autoload on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:07 pm

The1exile wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
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Given that both are experienced mafia players, they might even be playing a game here to convince us they're on different sides, when perhaps in reality they are not.


the only way they would knw there on the same side is they would be mafia


Wrong. Cult, masons, heck, at a stretch you might get the know-how with lovers depending on how the PM was phrased.


First of all, 0ojakeo0, you are the "Master of the Obvious."

Second of all, The1exile, you dug too far. It was obvious what Koesen meant by his post.
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Postby n8freeman on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:08 pm

woooow

9 pages just appeared out of thin air

that took a good 10 minutes of my life,
and thanks for donouncing me. i fee loved


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Postby The1exile on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:08 pm

autoload wrote:
The1exile wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:
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Given that both are experienced mafia players, they might even be playing a game here to convince us they're on different sides, when perhaps in reality they are not.


the only way they would knw there on the same side is they would be mafia


Wrong. Cult, masons, heck, at a stretch you might get the know-how with lovers depending on how the PM was phrased.


First of all, 0ojakeo0, you are the "Master of the Obvious."

Second of all, The1exile, you dug too far. It was obvious what Koesen meant by his post.


I know. I was attempting to help the noob, jake, figure that there are other ways of knowing what side they're both on.
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Postby n8freeman on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:11 pm

hmmm
who to burn, who to burn


wicked does have a point, mandy is not always the most helpful player
and he is confusing at best

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Postby Koesen on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:15 pm

autoload wrote:What a bunch of horseshit. Your post looks good, but it tells us NOTHING of value. Who says that it has to be either wicked or mandy as the only possibilities for mafia today? I think you forget the probability of one, much less both, of them being scum... with 21 players we can bet on a maximum of 6 bad guys if divided into two factions, 5 otherwise. Me? I'm rarely willing to make such a bold statement like, "I expect that later this game day, I will denounce either Mandy or Wicked or both" when so much can change in 3 days time.

I'm not FOSing you or anything because it's Day One and we will more than likely miss today unless we denounce something like 5 or more people.


Somebody hasn't been reading very well, has he?

If "NOTHING OF VALUE" (thanks for the caps, I nearly missed that bit) means I haven't spoonfed you any scum yet, then, well, I guess you're right, because I don't know yet who the scum is. If you do, Einstein, please enlighten me with your wisdom.

As for your probability statement, what the hell does that mean? Are you going to refute every accusation against everybody by saying that statistically the odds are higher that they're town? Cause that applies to everyone, you know.

Finally, stating who I think looks most suspicious at this point in time is hardly bold. Denouncing everybody the moment they say something I disagree with, that would be bold. I was merely contributing to the discussion.

Just like you were, I suppose, because thanks to you, I now have someone else to keep an eye on.
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Postby autoload on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:17 pm

The1exile wrote:I know. I was attempting to help the noob, jake, figure that there are other ways of knowing what side they're both on.


Semantics exile.

Of course sometimes I forget how young 0ojakeo0 is, so I will give you a pass on that one.
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:18 pm

Oops, I see I falsely accused you of using all caps when in fact you only bolded one word.

My apologies for the misguided sarcasm, but I stand by the rest.

And you, in case seven people fastpost me, means Autoload.
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Postby autoload on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:23 pm

The thing is Koesen, you said you were going to denounce one or both of them before the Day is over. That seems very narrow minded to not even give it any consideration to vote neither and have the mafia laugh at us bashing each other to bits while they sit back and laugh.

Maybe my words were a little harsh, but in my opinion, you said nothing that I did not already think about on my own, thus I found NOTHING of value in what you wrote. (I only CAPPED "Nothing", not the whole phrase)

Anyways, I'm not wasting any more time on you until more people show up.
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Postby autoload on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:24 pm

Koesen wrote:Oops, I see I falsely accused you of using all caps when in fact you only bolded one word.

My apologies for the misguided sarcasm, but I stand by the rest.

And you, in case seven people fastpost me, means Autoload.


And same to you regarding my previous rebuttal to your previous accusation.

Damn fastposting...
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Postby n8freeman on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:24 pm

wat the hell

donounce mandy

he doesnt seem to have a track record of being a helpful towny, and he oculd be mafia
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Postby Koesen on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:29 pm

autoload wrote:The thing is Koesen, you said you were going to denounce one or both of them before the Day is over. That seems very narrow minded to not even give it any consideration to vote neither and have the mafia laugh at us bashing each other to bits while they sit back and laugh.

Maybe my words were a little harsh, but in my opinion, you said nothing that I did not already think about on my own, thus I found NOTHING of value in what you wrote. (I only CAPPED "Nothing", not the whole phrase)

Anyways, I'm not wasting any more time on you until more people show up.


I said I expected to denounce one or the other or both later today. Big difference. I may change my mind. If I were sure right now, I'd have denounced them already, but I'm careful because of the permanence of all votes.

Maybe you already thought everything I wrote, but at the time I wrote it, I don't think anybody else had raised the possibility of scum theatrics.

Your last sentence, I'm going to agree with, at least for now.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:35 pm

Neutrino wrote:This is my 'I continue to exist, so don't modkill me' post.

I would randomly vote for someone, but the no unvote rules make that rather dangerous, so I think i'll just wait around, until either Mandy or Wicked manage to make their opponent look scummyer than they are.



I'm ready to denounce *cough* neutrino *cough* as his post wasn't exactly helpful and didn't even really help shade light on what is happening here. If he is posting just to state that he is alive, it seems to be a wasted post or an attempt to submarine.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:50 pm

wow, this has gotten me confused. From what I"m getting from it, is that MAndy and Wicked are having an illogical fight on why the other person is scum.

There are some people trying to figure out the setup. Others are finding there own baseless accusations. And everyone is still retarded.

I'm so confused. :D
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Postby kwanton on Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:52 pm

Gah. I decide to sign off and take a cat nap and in a few hours time, 5 pages pop up. I'm so very close to denouncing mandy but, like others, I don't wanna perma-vote based on this little evidence. Ummm....one more thing.....don't vote for those you think are submarining/not playing. If they don't vote then they will be modkilled. If they post nothing all day but show up and denounce at the last second to save themselve from being modkilled, there r my targets. But for right now no reason to denounce them.

......Erm....O yeh.....I don't think that mandy/wicked are being theatrical and misleading us now because that rarely happens day one. Everytime any day 1 arguments happen, someone has to pop up from the background and say "Z0Mg BotH R SCUM!". I really doubt that even experienced mafia players can coordinate something like wicked and mandy are doing, especially on day one with lack of communication.

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Postby n8freeman on Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:00 pm

ZOMG
KWANTON IS IN ON IT TOO


ALL THREE ARE SCUM!!

















that needed to be done, anyway. i have to agree

non-donouncers will be modkilled, so the only suspicious submariners would be, like kwanton said, the last minute donouncers
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Postby Skoffin on Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:09 pm

WHERE DID THESE 10 PAGES COME FROM?!

You awful awful people, I'll read this then come back to tell you how awful you are. >>
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Postby autoload on Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:52 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Neutrino wrote:This is my 'I continue to exist, so don't modkill me' post.

I would randomly vote for someone, but the no unvote rules make that rather dangerous, so I think i'll just wait around, until either Mandy or Wicked manage to make their opponent look scummyer than they are.



I'm ready to denounce *cough* neutrino *cough* as his post wasn't exactly helpful and didn't even really help shade light on what is happening here. If he is posting just to state that he is alive, it seems to be a wasted post or an attempt to submarine.


As usual, LSU Tiger Josh has spoken some sense. I haven't been playing many mafia games lately, but the few I played with LSU I have found him to be very thorough. Unless we find out later that LSU is scum, we would all be wise to understand what he is trying to say.

That being said, I too believe Neutrino's post was a little forced, but I think we should give him more time before slamming him.
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Postby Neutrino on Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:47 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Neutrino wrote:This is my 'I continue to exist, so don't modkill me' post.

I would randomly vote for someone, but the no unvote rules make that rather dangerous, so I think i'll just wait around, until either Mandy or Wicked manage to make their opponent look scummyer than they are.



I'm ready to denounce *cough* neutrino *cough* as his post wasn't exactly helpful and didn't even really help shade light on what is happening here.


Of course it's not going to be. It's day 1, what else do you expect?

You seem to be grasping at straws to try and depict me as scum.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote: If he is posting just to state that he is alive, it seems to be a wasted post or an attempt to submarine.


I wasn't planning on submarining. Due to the "Must denounce or be Modkilled" rule, I decided it would be best if I actually posted something before making my compulsory denunciation, thus avoiding the associated scummyness that accompanies voting without posting.
If you think this is a bad idea, then you are more than welcome to not post, and then to be lynched for scummy behaviour and submarining.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:59 pm

Neutrino wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Neutrino wrote:This is my 'I continue to exist, so don't modkill me' post.

I would randomly vote for someone, but the no unvote rules make that rather dangerous, so I think i'll just wait around, until either Mandy or Wicked manage to make their opponent look scummyer than they are.



I'm ready to denounce *cough* neutrino *cough* as his post wasn't exactly helpful and didn't even really help shade light on what is happening here.


Of course it's not going to be. It's day 1, what else do you expect?

You seem to be grasping at straws to try and depict me as scum.


I argee, LSU's case isn't that solid, and I don't think it was enough for a permanent vote.
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Postby wicked on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:04 pm

Neutrino wrote:I wasn't planning on submarining. Due to the "Must denounce or be Modkilled" rule, I decided it would be best if I actually posted something before making my compulsory denunciation, thus avoiding the associated scummyness that accompanies voting without posting.


So you admit you were posting just to post. :? Ok you've posted, next step, who are you denouncing?
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Postby kwanton on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:12 pm

Fircoal wrote:I argee, LSU's case isn't that solid, and I don't think it was enough for a permanent vote.


I see LSU's point though. It's not that difficult to actually contribute to the game when you postwithout voting. neutrino's first post was just to avoid suspicion which is inherently scummy. I know mafia is a game of paranoia, but if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have to go out of your way and post something that doesn't have a point.

Then again different people have different play styles so blah. I don't think that neutrino is scum, he just slipped up. And LSU pointed that out. Nothing warranting a denunciation on either side as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby Serbia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:13 pm

XenCobra wrote:So much spamming going on :roll:

To early to decide to denounce anybody yet.


I've a mind to denounce you too. Better to not post at all, then come up with an intelligence report like this one.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:41 pm

kwanton wrote:
Fircoal wrote:I argee, LSU's case isn't that solid, and I don't think it was enough for a permanent vote.


I see LSU's point though. It's not that difficult to actually contribute to the game when you postwithout voting. neutrino's first post was just to avoid suspicion which is inherently scummy. I know mafia is a game of paranoia, but if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have to go out of your way and post something that doesn't have a point.

Then again different people have different play styles so blah. I don't think that neutrino is scum, he just slipped up. And LSU pointed that out. Nothing warranting a denunciation on either side as far as I'm concerned.


Which is why I"m suspocious of LSU, sure it was a bit scummy FOS worthy, but he shouldn't of voted for him yet. Also I thought that it was a sincerce post of I couldn't post yet. ;)
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:46 pm

You can cast multiple votes in this game Kwanton so voting early even without being able to retract isn't that bad of a thing unless it is a late vote on someone that might lead to their lynch. Hence why I don't mind doing a vote on someone that I feel is submarining as I can still target scum with a second or more vote.

Fircoal you talk about a "perm." vote when it's the first vote on someone like it is a bad thing. What do you call the Mandy, Wicked, and whoever else is voting you? I won't hesitate to put an early vote on someone for semi slight scum tell, but when it's a later vote I hesitate. If you didn't already have 2 votes on you for early goofy reasons, I would give you a denunciation as well for thinking that someone making an "I'm alive" post so don't modkill me post isn't a good enough reason for a 1st vote.

Someone *cough* Neutrino *cough* acted scummy with their post and I called them out on it. Their second post hasn't been much better, but I'm not interested in seeking a bandwagon on them at this time as I don't know if they are scum or not.
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Postby Serbia on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:47 pm

Fircoal, just for the record, the correct phrasing is "shouldn't HAVE", not "shouldn't OF".

But of course, like I should talk... I'm the one who, instead of saying "DID YOU denounce anyone yet?", always lazily just says "D'JEW denounce anyone yet?"
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