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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby Selin on Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:41 pm

LSU, could you replace me?

Due to many business trips nowadays, I have to use the very limited time to make moves in my games. I will be missing another 4 days from Monday evening on because of another trip.

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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby derfderf34 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:06 pm

got tonkaed wrote:derf im simply trying to clear up some of the confusion and point out what is likely going to be required to avoid letting either one of the parties get in control. If there was an American lynch today and death tonight, id advocate a british lynch the next day.

you talk right there about wat the third parties would want to use to win
third parties are most likel;y to be dangerous late in the game so
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby william18 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:07 pm

derfderf34 wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:derf im simply trying to clear up some of the confusion and point out what is likely going to be required to avoid letting either one of the parties get in control. If there was an American lynch today and death tonight, id advocate a british lynch the next day.

you talk right there about wat the third parties would want to use to win
third parties are most likel;y to be dangerous late in the game so
unvote vote got tonkaed


Third parties hould not be eliminated so early, and if my understanding is correct, might cause a deadlock.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby animorpherv1 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:09 pm

jnd94 wrote:Seems like an odd assumption, unless you were the role and was trying some kind of reverse psychology thing.



Reverse psychology is overreated. Reverse Reverse psychology is much better.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby Minister Masket on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:12 pm

Quick thought: that famous chap who switched sides during the war, can't remember his name...
He'll be in this for certain.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby william18 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:14 pm

Minister Masket wrote:Quick thought: that famous chap who switched sides during the war, can't remember his name...
He'll be in this for certain.


That Benedict guy? Im not sure of the Revolution since im Canadian and it was not taught.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby InkL0sed on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:16 pm

Benedict Arnold; and he'll defintely be in the game.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby Minister Masket on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:23 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Benedict Arnold; and he'll defintely be in the game.

That's the one.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby jnd94 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:32 pm

Well, even if he was, would he be a psychopath? I don't think so. He was just a traitor.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:37 pm

derfderf34 wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:derf im simply trying to clear up some of the confusion and point out what is likely going to be required to avoid letting either one of the parties get in control. If there was an American lynch today and death tonight, id advocate a british lynch the next day.

you talk right there about wat the third parties would want to use to win
third parties are most likel;y to be dangerous late in the game so
unvote vote got tonkaed


I have in no way made any claim as to affilation. The idea is a rather simple one though, assuming that there are large groups of the two main factions, the best case scenario for everyone not in that group (whichever group is leading at the time) is to try to eliminate a member of the strongest group at the time. Today that would be an American lynch, it would be a rather easy process to reevaluate tomorrow.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:12 pm

As of right now It'll end sometime on Sunday. If I see a lot of discussion taking place though, I'll consider giving it a full 96 hours/4 days for each daytime based off of the number of people in here.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby animorpherv1 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:16 pm

jnd94 wrote:Well, even if he was, would he be a psychopath? I don't think so. He was just a traitor.


Think about it. Health care sucked, and there was possibly no mental facilities back then. What do you think?
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby jnd94 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:19 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:
jnd94 wrote:Well, even if he was, would he be a psychopath? I don't think so. He was just a traitor.


Think about it. Health care sucked, and there was possibly no mental facilities back then. What do you think?


I think that is a total shit arguement.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:21 pm

Kalish is replacing Talapus
GA7#2 will be replacing Selin
few other pms are out on replacements for Dominationnation since he should've been back by now and for Fircoal who is refusing to post.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby animorpherv1 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:47 pm

jnd- if you don't think so, then that's OK with me.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:GA7#2 will be replacing Selin
few other pms are out on replacements for Dominationnation since he should've been


@ga7 (both 1 and 2): I'll trade you roles.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby drake_259 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:56 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:
jnd94 wrote:Well, even if he was, would he be a psychopath? I don't think so. He was just a traitor.


Think about it. Health care sucked, and there was possibly no mental facilities back then. What do you think?

there properly ain't but i don't find you a psychopath either.

which side would the psychopath turn too when cured
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby ga7 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:56 pm

You thought you could get rid of me like that?? Firm bitches :D
Vote Kalish Yoohoo ;)
I need to catch back but it seems we're quite short on time. There seems to have been a fair amount of decent discussion though so I hope it'll keep going and we'll get a deadline extension =)
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby Thezzaruz on Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:57 pm

jnd94 wrote:2) To assume that LSU would take uncommon roles from mafiascum w/o changing them is highly unlikely. He isn't a new mod, and I'm going to guess more thought went into the roles thatn that.

IMO those exact arguments is why a psycho is possible. LSU has experience and is (as advertised) running a more advanced game. ofc there is no proof so far but it wouldn't be outlandish.



william18 wrote:Third parties hould not be eliminated so early, and if my understanding is correct, might cause a deadlock.

Well we are far far away from a deadlock situation so that shouldn't really worry us. And 3:rd parties are only good for them few selves (in the long run at least) and hence should always be hunted IMO.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:02 pm

i disagree with the notion that third party roles are necessarily unuseful and therefore should be eliminated. While not directly related to this game, I can say in both games i have modded and played that it is frequently the efforts of third party players that keep the game in balance. While it is certainly possible that third party shooters are out there, which could be a danger to the group, it is also possible that these roles will be useful in a day phase or two if either group starts to become more sucessful than the other. Especially given the way this game could easily be set up, i think there are at least a few small factions who could either avanlanche the game in one direction or keep a stronger side from wiping out the other.

Id still advocate that making sure the two main factions remain balanced is the best approach to keep the game competitive for the longest amount of days. Meaning that today should still be a target for an American lynch (by anyone who is british, 3rd party, or a sneaky american trying to pretend they are not)
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby derfderf34 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:i disagree with the notion that third party roles are necessarily unuseful and therefore should be eliminated. While not directly related to this game, I can say in both games i have modded and played that it is frequently the efforts of third party players that keep the game in balance. While it is certainly possible that third party shooters are out there, which could be a danger to the group, it is also possible that these roles will be useful in a day phase or two if either group starts to become more sucessful than the other. Especially given the way this game could easily be set up, i think there are at least a few small factions who could either avanlanche the game in one direction or keep a stronger side from wiping out the other.

Id still advocate that making sure the two main factions remain balanced is the best approach to keep the game competitive for the longest amount of days. Meaning that today should still be a target for an American lynch (by anyone who is british, 3rd party, or a sneaky american trying to pretend they are not)

i still dont understand how you could not be 3rd party since you are pushing for a different vote every day not eliminating thrid party
you will just wait until there are so few british and americans that your power roles will be able the blow a way the rest
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby dunc_2007 on Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:42 pm

got tonkaed wrote:i disagree with the notion that third party roles are necessarily unuseful and therefore should be eliminated. While not directly related to this game, I can say in both games i have modded and played that it is frequently the efforts of third party players that keep the game in balance. While it is certainly possible that third party shooters are out there, which could be a danger to the group, it is also possible that these roles will be useful in a day phase or two if either group starts to become more sucessful than the other. Especially given the way this game could easily be set up, i think there are at least a few small factions who could either avanlanche the game in one direction or keep a stronger side from wiping out the other.

Id still advocate that making sure the two main factions remain balanced is the best approach to keep the game competitive for the longest amount of days. Meaning that today should still be a target for an American lynch (by anyone who is british, 3rd party, or a sneaky american trying to pretend they are not)


I disagree. If I'm on one of the two main factions, I don't want to balance the game every time someone dies. I want to kill off the opposing side! ;)

You're definitely coming across as 3rd party, given your affinity to them and keeping them alive.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:53 pm

I dont actually understand why anyone would overtly act like one affilation, other than wanting to tie up a doc protection.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:05 am

ga7 wrote:You thought you could get rid of me like that?? Firm bitches :D
Vote Kalish Yoohoo ;)
I need to catch back but it seems we're quite short on time. There seems to have been a fair amount of decent discussion though so I hope it'll keep going and we'll get a deadline extension =)



Ummmm.

You're dead.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:06 am

Oh wait, are you replacing someone? Shit, I need to reread.
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Re: American Revolution Game Thread. Day 2. POST 1 Brit Dead.

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:07 am

Oh, yeah, Selin. Oops...
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