New Jedi Order Mafia MOZ & VONG WIN

by **got tonkaed** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:55 pm

got tonkaed wrote:i think out of everything i have read in day 3 so far nagerous argument against freezie is the best for now. So until something better is presented i will follow suit and

vote nagerous

lol dummy i am

ebwop

unvote vote freezie

by **mandalorian2298** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:02 pm

VOTE COUNT

Huckleberryhound (1) - Fircoal
Talapus (3) - Kalish, Nark, MM
Freezie (3) - Nagerus. Huck, Tonka

With 24 alive it takes 13 to lynch.

by **ga7** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:35 pm

Fair warning, my moronic ISP decided it'd be a good idea to randomly cut my connection, if I'm not around for a couple of days feel free to replace me (that goes for the other games I'm in too).
I'll try to reread and input later, provided I'm still on -_-

by **pancakemix** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm

ga7 wrote:Fair warning, my moronic ISP decided it'd be a good idea to randomly cut my connection, if I'm not around for a couple of days feel free to replace me (that goes for the other games I'm in too).
I'll try to reread and input later, provided I'm still on -_-

Welcome to my life. :lol:

Hmm... Talapus bandwagon...

I think he's got enough pressure, he'll surface soon enough.

by **freezie** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:52 pm

My vote against moz could be easily explained: There was a bandwagon against exile, and moz was increasing in the number of false info that he would give. At worst, we make them both talk and see what is more likely to be a good lynch.

In fact, moz was lynch first. And exile after in the same day.

I voted Exile before, after AK's died and I assumed following his theory wouldn't be that bad of an idea. I can't make up those smart theories on my own, after all.

My goal wasn't to start a bandwagon on moz, never I had a vote simply for anyone to follow. I prefer letting them talk.

by **kalishnikov** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:53 pm

wicked wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:No, I don't think it's coincidence. He's a smart player and if he's not scum the mafia always try to take him out or recruit him early, just like mandalorian and Fircoal. If any of them live past night 5 in a game they are probably scum...

ugh, having been on the receiving end of that "logic", I can tell you that's total BS. There are a number of high target players in this game. Scum don't have to have a reason to kill someone, they often look for whomever will draw the least suspicion to them. It's most likely not a "coincidence" or him being a "smart player" or anything other than he was off the radar.

I think that goes without saying. The first 'rule' of being scum is only make the kill that doesn't bring suspicion back on you, i.e. someone lying low and not posting much.

by **kalishnikov** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:56 pm

Oh and FOS: Skoffin. I've seen your name under the "users browsing this forum" thing today, nothing to say?

by **jnd94** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:07 pm

FOS all people that were on Aimless's case

Now that he is dead, and, like kalish and wicked were pointing out, if you were on Aimless's case, then killed, him, it wouldnt bring much suspicion onto you.

Some people might have just wanted to know where he was, but some wanted him to be replaced.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:34 pm

jnd94 wrote:FOS all people that were on Aimless's case

Now that he is dead, and, like kalish and wicked were pointing out, if you were on Aimless's case, then killed, him, it wouldnt bring much suspicion onto you.

Some people might have just wanted to know where he was, but some wanted him to be replaced.

But who was on Aimless' case?

by **kalishnikov** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:41 pm

Good question, I really don't wanna re-read 83 pages though to find out...

by **kwanton** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:47 pm

nagerous wrote: Kwanton was only there because of something he said to me

Care to elaborate?

by **MountainLion** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:10 pm

freezie wrote:I voted Exile before, after AK's died and I assumed following his theory wouldn't be that bad of an idea. I can't make up those smart theories on my own, after all.

Where did you vote Exile, freezie? I looked through Day 2 between AK getting lynched and your vote on Moz, and I didn't find it.

by **Fircoal** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:03 pm

Huckleberryhound wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:In my opinion, HBH has not submarined at all.

No, he hasn't submarined, but he posted many spammish posts, and doesn't contribute.

What do you want me to do, use the freakin force and find the lord of sith ??????

I've noticed a pattern here, and although i am an easy target, you're barking up the wrong tree here matey.....use the force fircoal

You proved my point, Huck. Is this a defense that even jake could come up with in a minute.

by **Fircoal** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:04 pm

kalishnikov wrote:However it is funny to see Fircoal yelling at someone for spamming.

Spamming plus constructive posts, is awesome

plain spam and no help is deadwieght.

by **freezie** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:13 pm

MountainLion wrote:
freezie wrote:I voted Exile before, after AK's died and I assumed following his theory wouldn't be that bad of an idea. I can't make up those smart theories on my own, after all.

Where did you vote Exile, freezie? I looked through Day 2 between AK getting lynched and your vote on Moz, and I didn't find it.

I really need to get it back?

Fine...Give me an hour.

by **Fircoal** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:14 pm

The freezie, case is pretty good, but I'm not sure. Is it just luck that the two dead on Nag's list were scum, was it skill, or a mafia set up. Sure, it probably isn't a mafia set up, but still you never know. For now I'll Fos: Freezie, I'll change it to a vote with more proof.

by **freezie** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:17 pm

freezie wrote:Well, along of what Mandy said about the fake claims..

Vote: Exile

by **freezie** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:22 pm

freezie wrote::shock:

Mandy = weirdest mod ever. But a good one, at this point.

Vote: Exile

Need I say more?

That was right after Moz's '' lynch''

Need I get more of those posts, ML?

by **MountainLion** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:04 pm

Ah, it was after Moz's death.

by **MountainLion** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:42 pm

I found some interesting posts by kalish right on the two pages just before Exile is lynched. Kalish suggests that Exile's claim as survivor could become a more useful role later on which is an agreement with what Exile said about his "roleclaim."

On page 78:

kalishnikov wrote:Well if Exile's claim is true, I don't see a need to lynch him quite yet. If we get no better leads he would make a decent fall-back to end Day 2. Another possibility, perhaps he's linked to a different character to gain his powers. I'm not sure how or why but he may yet be useful to us at some point.

Then just before the hammer is dropped on Exile, Kalish FOS'd Tonka for voting Exile and says "we've got all the time in the world" which sounds like a plea for everyone to stop voting Exile.

On page 79:

kalishnikov wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:vote exile

it seems like this will be the only real line that can be explored in the time left today.

Oh yea, FOS: gt.

What did you mean? We've got all the time in the world... Even when someone wins, the game isn't over . Do you know something that we don't?

vote kalish

by **Talapus** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:47 pm

Fircoal wrote:The freezie, case is pretty good, but I'm not sure. Is it just luck that the two dead on Nag's list were scum, was it skill, or a mafia set up. Sure, it probably isn't a mafia set up, but still you never know. For now I'll Fos: Freezie, I'll change it to a vote with more proof.

I like this thought a lot. I'm not well read in any of the Star Wars lore, but with a game like this I wouldn't doubt it. After looking into it, it seems that the Yuuzhan Vong are very untrustworthy anyway. They may have thier own agenda(Even among themselves) and framing some of the clean players doesn't sound too far fetched. But it seems that there are deffinately a few players in here that agree with others a lot or build off of eachothers theories more then is normal. So it's hard to tell who to trust.

As for the Freezie thing...the evidence is compelling and I'll cast my vote for him in another day if he's still our best lead. But since the threads only been on today for 24 hours, I'll give it time.

by **ga7** on Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:00 pm

Well, I'm not too sure on the Freezie lead, gonna check back on that. About the one ML just presented, I do remember some people subtly trying to get the attention off Exile on the previous day. I'm pretty sure Kalish wasn't the only one, I'll read back on day 2 to see. For now FOS Kalish

by **Skittles!** on Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:36 am

Wow, a lot of suspicions today. Not really surprising though. I wouldn't be surprised to have a few scum members team up to vote someone.

by **Skittles!** on Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:38 am

It also looks like Nagerous and ML are leading us here. I'm not too sure if I like that. Suspicious because that's what I do when I'm scum.

I'm back to my usual suspicion of Nag and ML. Actually..

vote Nag

FOS ML

See where this gets us.

by **ga7** on Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:56 am

Well, I'm glad day 2 wasn't as long as day 1 #-o

Regarding the Freezie case, I don't really see it. We caught scum based on these past "lists" ok, but I'm not convinced by the actual evidence besides that.

ML already found out pretty good points against Kalish, here is another suspect:

Skittles! wrote:I really don't see a lead with anything at the moment. Every suggestive post is rebutted by another, which just makes it boil down to nothing again.

I'm just noticing that Nag and ML are agreeing with Wicked a lot more than normally needed. Those three were possibly the most stubborn against AK when he tried to clear himself, with Moz close to them.

FOS Nag and ML.

Serbia trying to make a point against Kwan is interesting, and then even more interesting that people took that chance and voted for Serbia...

Looking familiar? :lol:

This was at the beginning on day 2, when the leads on Moz and Ex were pretty obvious.

Skittles! wrote:Meh. I dont' really think Exile is scum. Actually, I have no idea who is scum, and it's mean

So I'm not going to vote Exile until further evidence against him is laid down. He isn't acting scummy, but then again, scum never act scum.

Skittles! wrote:mm, Survivor, eh? Not exactly pro-town, and not exactly pro-mafia.

I dono if I should vote for him or not.

This blind trust of Exile makes my scumdar ping louder than with Kalish, especially since it was throughout the day. These nonchalant tries at getting the heat off Exile and his nonsensical acccusation of Nag (at least nonsensical for non-skimmers) are the scummiest I saw amongst the people that weren't looking happy with an Exile lynch.

Vote Skittles

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