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[strike wolf]

So, guys, you seem to be sure of it; what exactly is the case on aage?

He relentlessly pursued a lynch on a likely townie with some flawed logic. Wanted to out a second member of herk's group, role claim doesn't quite add up with behavior in game, suspicion about the nature of sister claim and most recently appears to have lied about receiving information about vi's role.

[spiesr]

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

Interesting. Is it possible that due to their role being linked that Mr. Squirrel answered his question despite that it could be in violation of the details of a post he made after the fact? I mean, if aage already knew that violet was unlynchable then maybe Mr. Squirrel told him things about it despite it not being his role? Idea. In theory, theherkman has some sort of linked role as well. Could he test this possibility by asking Mr. Squirrel for information about someone he is linked with and seeing what sort of response he gets?

[aage]

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

Ga, you fucking idiot. You can't get information about anything that has to do with unlynchable roles because [/b] you[/b] don't have anything to do with unlynchable roles. I however did get information since I PM'ed Mr. S meaning only I would get that information. Mr. S isn't sharing this information with you because you are not VioIet's sister and therefore have nothing to do with that role.

Also, I have no idea on godfather powers. I never played with them, honestly. I was assuming they just can't be NK'd and sometimes send in the mafia NK.

[Commander9]

Interesting. Is it possible that due to their role being linked that Mr. Squirrel answered his question despite that it could be in violation of the details of a post he made after the fact? I mean, if aage already knew that violet was unlynchable then maybe Mr. Squirrel told him things about it despite it not being his role? Idea. In theory, theherkman has some sort of linked role as well. Could he test this possibility by asking Mr. Squirrel for information about someone he is linked with and seeing what sort of response he gets?

This as well. I'm not completely sure that our mod would also post something in the threads, but PM'ing is different. Still not completely convinced of aage, but lynching him could actually be the best way. If he's a Godfather, win for us, if he's not, we can persecute those who are calling for his head for so long. Also, if aage is indeed the GF, we'll know that Herk is not in mafia (wouldn't make any sense), but then again, we still couldn't say he's pro-town (3rd party) as he still has a huge burden on his shoulders. However, all goes in it's time - I would like to see someone testing that out.

The problem with that, though, is that if it's herk, he could easily lie to get aage lynched and that just say that Mr. Squirrel said he wouldn't provide, thus giving us manipulation. Vioiet is also not 100% reliable due to her connections with aage. Most of the others will not want to come out, because if they would, they'd be making themselves as targets.

EDIT - fastposted.

In a way, this does echo so of my thoughts as one of thing is to talk in private (PM's) and something absolutely different for a mod to confirm something out in public. Not going to vote just yet and see how this will unfold.

[aage]

Interesting. Is it possible that due to their role being linked that Mr. Squirrel answered his question despite that it could be in violation of the details of a post he made after the fact? I mean, if aage already knew that violet was unlynchable then maybe Mr. Squirrel told him things about it despite it not being his role? Idea. In theory, theherkman has some sort of linked role as well. Could he test this possibility by asking Mr. Squirrel for information about someone he is linked with and seeing what sort of response he gets?

The problem with that, though, is that if it's herk, he could easily lie to get aage lynched and that just say that Mr. Squirrel said he wouldn't provide, thus giving us manipulation. Vioiet is also not 100% reliable due to her connections with aage. Most of the others will not want to come out, because if they would, they'd be making themselves as targets.

Yeah, and the odds of that are... 100%? FoS spiesr. This makes me suspect you're on THM's "team".

[Stefunny85]

Still not completely convinced of aage, but lynching him could actually be the best way. If he's a Godfather, win for us, if he's not, we can persecute those who are calling for his head for so long. Also, if aage is indeed the GF, we'll know that Herk is not in mafia (wouldn't make any sense), but then again, we still couldn't say he's pro-town (3rd party) as he still has a huge burden on his shoulders. However, all goes in it's time - I would like to see someone testing that out.

Actually. I agree with this. The lynch of aage would possibly kill two birds in my eyes. I'm still suspicious of Herk and his "Super group" claim, but if we were to lynch Aage and he IS mafia then most likely Herk ISN'T mafia. I'm not convinced Aage is a GF but I am convinced that he has been scummy and evasive.
Therefore...

Unvote, Vote Aage

[Haggis_McMutton]

Ga, you fucking idiot. You can't get information about anything that has to do with unlynchable roles because [/b] you[/b] don't have anything to do with unlynchable roles. I however did get information since I PM'ed Mr. S meaning only I would get that information. Mr. S isn't sharing this information with you because you are not VioIet's sister and therefore have nothing to do with that role.

Also, I have no idea on godfather powers. I never played with them, honestly. I was assuming they just can't be NK'd and sometimes send in the mafia NK.

Umm, perhaps you missed it:

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

Own role, not role you already know stuff about, not role you are linked with, but OWN ROLE.

Either Mr. S mispoke, or you ar lying.

Also:

1. "My role pm states that my partner is town.

Geez. My pm doesn't mention alignment, it simply says "you win if all threats to town are eliminated". That pretty much makes us town, I guess.

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

These facts have catapulted you by a clear margin to no. 1 scummiest imo.

The only reason I'm not voting is that you're already at L-3 (i think). I'll wait for some more discussion and possibly Mr. S saying that he mispoke and linked roles can indeed get info about one another.

[aage]

Ga, you fucking idiot. You can't get information about anything that has to do with unlynchable roles because [/b] you[/b] don't have anything to do with unlynchable roles. I however did get information since I PM'ed Mr. S meaning only I would get that information. Mr. S isn't sharing this information with you because you are not VioIet's sister and therefore have nothing to do with that role.

Also, I have no idea on godfather powers. I never played with them, honestly. I was assuming they just can't be NK'd and sometimes send in the mafia NK.

Umm, perhaps you missed it:

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

Own role, not role you already know stuff about, not role you are linked with, but OWN ROLE.

Either Mr. S mispoke, or you ar lying.

Or you misread. VioIet's role has to do with my role, thus they are related, thus I can get information about a role that is related to my role. It's very hard to state the obvious in here, I see.

Also:

1. "My role pm states that my partner is town.

Geez. My pm doesn't mention alignment, it simply says "you win if all threats to town are eliminated". That pretty much makes us town, I guess.

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

I replaced, this might be a reason why I got a different PM?

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

And as I said, I can deduce from my role that she is not scum, and neither am I.

These facts have catapulted you by a clear margin to no. 1 scummiest imo.

So i'm no. 1 scummiest because you can't read


If you guys are going to kill me anyway, please think of me while lynching THM tomorrow? Thanks.

[theherkman]

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

Interesting. Is it possible that due to their role being linked that Mr. Squirrel answered his question despite that it could be in violation of the details of a post he made after the fact? I mean, if aage already knew that violet was unlynchable then maybe Mr. Squirrel told him things about it despite it not being his role? Idea. In theory, theherkman has some sort of linked role as well. Could he test this possibility by asking Mr. Squirrel for information about someone he is linked with and seeing what sort of response he gets?

Did this already on D1. Received no response.

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

I think the reason for this would be plausible deniability if she is NK and comes up mafia. Then he can say, "Well my role PM didn't say this or that, I kind of assumed. At least you got her, I'm town!" Is Aage a good enough player to try this kind of thing if they are both scum? This whole bluff?

[aage]

I think the reason for this would be plausible deniability if she is NK and comes up mafia. Then he can say, "Well my role PM didn't say this or that, I kind of assumed. At least you got her, I'm town!" Is Aage a good enough player to try this kind of thing if they are both scum? This whole bluff?

That would be the lamest strategy in history. If you somehow manage to lynch VioIet and she turns up scum, you can also say "oh, so they're just scumbuddies, lets lynch the other one too". Luckily this won't happen, since we aren't scumbuddies.

[strike wolf]

Ga, you fucking idiot. You can't get information about anything that has to do with unlynchable roles because [/b] you[/b] don't have anything to do with unlynchable roles. I however did get information since I PM'ed Mr. S meaning only I would get that information. Mr. S isn't sharing this information with you because you are not VioIet's sister and therefore have nothing to do with that role.

Also, I have no idea on godfather powers. I never played with them, honestly. I was assuming they just can't be NK'd and sometimes send in the mafia NK.

Umm, perhaps you missed it:

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

Own role, not role you already know stuff about, not role you are linked with, but OWN ROLE.

Either Mr. S mispoke, or you ar lying.

Or you misread. VioIet's role has to do with my role, thus they are related, thus I can get information about a role that is related to my role. It's very hard to state the obvious in here, I see.

Also:

1. "My role pm states that my partner is town.

Geez. My pm doesn't mention alignment, it simply says "you win if all threats to town are eliminated". That pretty much makes us town, I guess.

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

I replaced, this might be a reason why I got a different PM?

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

And as I said, I can deduce from my role that she is not scum, and neither am I.

These facts have catapulted you by a clear margin to no. 1 scummiest imo.

So i'm no. 1 scummiest because you can't read


If you guys are going to kill me anyway, please think of me while lynching THM tomorrow? Thanks.

It is possible that you would get info because it's related to your role but mr. S's wording would imply that wasn't the case. From my experience when you are in a group whether mafia, mason or other the mod doesn't give you any more than the bare minimum amount of info about those in your group. It may be a bit different in pairs but that is my understanding.

You possibly got a different pm but probably not. Mods are usually careful about giving you the exact same pm word for word. Or at least getting important details about the pm the same.

[theherkman]

Can we get a vote count, please, Mr. S? I think we are only 1-2 away from lynch.

[Stefunny85]

Can we get a vote count, please, Mr. S? I think we are only 1-2 away from lynch.

Mr. S said he usually can only be around in the evenings. Patience grasshopper

[theherkman]

I wasn't sure if we got one last night. I've been up all night and am a little too tired to remember. Just thought I would politely put it out there.

[aage]

It is possible that you would get info because it's related to your role but mr. S's wording would imply that wasn't the case. From my experience when you are in a group whether mafia, mason or other the mod doesn't give you any more than the bare minimum amount of info about those in your group. It may be a bit different in pairs but that is my understanding.

You possibly got a different pm but probably not. Mods are usually careful about giving you the exact same pm word for word. Or at least getting important details about the pm the same.

Please go and take a look at who Mr. S was quoting when answering "the question". You in this case equalled ga7. That's what I figure leastways... When you quote someone, then talk to a "you person", experience tells me those two things are the same person.

By the way, there was no vague wording in the pm I sent to Mr. S. I simply asked what would happen if VioIet got lynched, and he said the votes would be removed and the day would continue. I don't see how that's carfully worded.

[aage]

It is possible that you would get info because it's related to your role but mr. S's wording would imply that wasn't the case. From my experience when you are in a group whether mafia, mason or other the mod doesn't give you any more than the bare minimum amount of info about those in your group. It may be a bit different in pairs but that is my understanding.

You possibly got a different pm but probably not. Mods are usually careful about giving you the exact same pm word for word. Or at least getting important details about the pm the same.

Please go and take a look at who Mr. S was quoting when answering "the question". You in this case equalled ga7. That's what I figure leastways... When you quote someone, then talk to a "you person", experience tells me those two things are the same person.

By the way, there was no vague wording in the pm I sent to Mr. S. I simply asked what would happen if VioIet got lynched, and he said the votes would be removed and the day would continue. I don't see how that's carfully worded.

EBWOP
Wait, we're talking about different PM's here.

The role PM I received was adressed to me and started with something like "okay, time to replace". Halfway the Pm however, he referred to Mandy (who I am replacing) so it might be copied.

[ga7]

Aage, cut the crap. Claiming you didn't know about godfather powers when you were in games where there was one, hell probably even more in Nashville, is BS. You've not only been scummy all day long but actually detracted the game and town's chances to win. If ultimately you're telling the truth I say you're even more moronic than I thought and good riddance.

Your actions today:

-Tried to get a town mason that several people have no doubt about lynched
-Tried to out more masons to "prove" Herk being town
-Under pressure claimed bulletproof coupled with an unlynchable then tried to get her lynched to "prove" you town, even though you supposedly had no clue about how the unlynchable role worked at that point
-Consequently outed a valuable town role just for the sake of your survival and "clearing" you, as at no point you needed to out Violet's role also, neither your own in fact, rendering you two freaking useless and Violet likely to be NKed, even though most people agreed it would in no way clear yourself
-Invited the cop to investigate you after many people mentioned the GF theory
-Claimed you got info on a role not your own which contradicts how Squirrel manages it, as he clearly was making a general statement, but we can test that silly theory by having someone else ask him if you want
-Claimed to not have knowledge on the GF role when it's one of the most common and you were in several games with them in

And that's just the best 7. ENOUGH!

[strike wolf]

It is possible that you would get info because it's related to your role but mr. S's wording would imply that wasn't the case. From my experience when you are in a group whether mafia, mason or other the mod doesn't give you any more than the bare minimum amount of info about those in your group. It may be a bit different in pairs but that is my understanding.

You possibly got a different pm but probably not. Mods are usually careful about giving you the exact same pm word for word. Or at least getting important details about the pm the same.

Please go and take a look at who Mr. S was quoting when answering "the question". You in this case equalled ga7. That's what I figure leastways... When you quote someone, then talk to a "you person", experience tells me those two things are the same person.

By the way, there was no vague wording in the pm I sent to Mr. S. I simply asked what would happen if VioIet got lynched, and he said the votes would be removed and the day would continue. I don't see how that's carfully worded.

and my answer to that would be mod rules are universal. He's not saying that ga7 in particularly can't have questions answered about other players but some can. That rule applies to all of us.

The careful wording refers to the replacement pm he sent you nothing you said.

[theherkman]

It is possible that you would get info because it's related to your role but mr. S's wording would imply that wasn't the case. From my experience when you are in a group whether mafia, mason or other the mod doesn't give you any more than the bare minimum amount of info about those in your group. It may be a bit different in pairs but that is my understanding.

You possibly got a different pm but probably not. Mods are usually careful about giving you the exact same pm word for word. Or at least getting important details about the pm the same.

Please go and take a look at who Mr. S was quoting when answering "the question". You in this case equalled ga7. That's what I figure leastways... When you quote someone, then talk to a "you person", experience tells me those two things are the same person.

By the way, there was no vague wording in the pm I sent to Mr. S. I simply asked what would happen if VioIet got lynched, and he said the votes would be removed and the day would continue. I don't see how that's carfully worded.

EBWOP
Wait, we're talking about different PM's here.

The role PM I received was adressed to me and started with something like "okay, time to replace". Halfway the Pm however, he referred to Mandy (who I am replacing) so it might be copied.

You aren't EBWOP-ing. You are double posting. An EBWOP is when you need to fix something so you quote your post and fix your mistake. You put EBWOP in places where you would normally use the edit button to correct a gramatical, spelling, or BBcode error. Please, stop putting EBWOP in your posts when you are not.

[TheSaxlad]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

OMG Ga7 you found a liar, originally I took my vote off Aage, but on this evidence, it seems aage is definitely the scummiest at the moment, which is pretty funny considering VioIet backed him up.

So for the moment vote Aage and FOS VioIet

as for the GF im not convinced, but im convinced enough that hes mafia.

[VioIet]

Well I am a bit at a loss for words here. Don't know what else I can possibly do to save aage.

I can't believe this. You guys still want to lynch aage. Not only do I think this will get us further away from finding the mafia, but it will kill two powerful townies.

So you don't agree with aage's logic, but are you really going to lynch him because of that? Even though we've stated numerous times that he is town.

My role pm states that we win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

If aage is mafia, then I must be insane, because that contradicts what my role pm says.

Shame on the mod for letting people think that he is lying.

[Commander9]

Own role, not role you already know stuff about, not role you are linked with, but OWN ROLE.

Either Mr. S mispoke, or you ar lying.

Not sure about this one, tbh. I did ask him to re-send me my role as I forgot who I was and he did so That is information about my role...

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

These facts have catapulted you by a clear margin to no. 1 scummiest imo.

The only reason I'm not voting is that you're already at L-3 (i think). I'll wait for some more discussion and possibly Mr. S saying that he mispoke and linked roles can indeed get info about one another.

Yup, that exact thing throw me off as well. If you can coordinate something, do so. That's one of the main reasons why I think that we could lynch him, because he's not exactly been all that trust-worthy either.

If you guys are going to kill me anyway, please think of me while lynching THM tomorrow? Thanks.

And that's exactly what I said before mate. I think you're a good player and it's likely that you might be telling the truth, but we can't be sure. However, from the looks of it, from this head calling, I have at least 3 players who are extremely suspicious that we should take a look if you're innocent. The sheer information, IMO, is the beneficial from the lynch. I haven't voted yet, but I'm slowly learning towards that.

Aage, cut the crap. Claiming you didn't know about godfather powers when you were in games where there was one, hell probably even more in Nashville, is BS. You've not only been scummy all day long but actually detracted the game and town's chances to win. If ultimately you're telling the truth I say you're even more moronic than I thought and good riddance.

Your actions today:

-Tried to get a town mason that several people have no doubt about lynched How do we know that? If anyone believes that without doubts, I am scared.
-Tried to out more masons to "prove" Herk being town
-Under pressure claimed bulletproof coupled with an unlynchable then tried to get her lynched to "prove" you town, even though you supposedly had no clue about how the unlynchable role worked at that point
-Consequently outed a valuable town role just for the sake of your survival and "clearing" you, as at no point you needed to out Violet's role also, neither your own in fact, rendering you two freaking useless and Violet likely to be NKed, even though most people agreed it would in no way clear yourself
-Invited the cop to investigate you after many people mentioned the GF theory
-Claimed you got info on a role not your own which contradicts how Squirrel manages it, as he clearly was making a general statement, but we can test that silly theory by having someone else ask him if you want This might be harder than you think. If anyone barring Herk tests it, they probably have to come out and make themselves as targets. Furthermore, just 1 sample is not a good idea either.
-Claimed to not have knowledge on the GF role when it's one of the most common and you were in several games with them in

And that's just the best 7. ENOUGH!

I do agree with most of these, but the 2 that I pointed out - ugh....

[strike wolf]

Well I am a bit at a loss for words here. Don't know what else I can possibly do to save aage.

I can't believe this. You guys still want to lynch aage. Not only do I think this will get us further away from finding the mafia, but it will kill two powerful townies.

So you don't agree with aage's logic, but are you really going to lynch him because of that? Even though we've stated numerous times that he is town.

My role pm states that we win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

If aage is mafia, then I must be insane, because that contradicts what my role pm says.

Shame on the mod for letting people think that he is lying.

Ok correct me if I'm wrong but you are saying that if one of you dies the other dies as well?

[Haggis_McMutton]

Ga, you fucking idiot. You can't get information about anything that has to do with unlynchable roles because [/b] you[/b] don't have anything to do with unlynchable roles. I however did get information since I PM'ed Mr. S meaning only I would get that information. Mr. S isn't sharing this information with you because you are not VioIet's sister and therefore have nothing to do with that role.

Also, I have no idea on godfather powers. I never played with them, honestly. I was assuming they just can't be NK'd and sometimes send in the mafia NK.

Umm, perhaps you missed it:

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

Own role, not role you already know stuff about, not role you are linked with, but OWN ROLE.

Either Mr. S mispoke, or you ar lying.

Or you misread. VioIet's role has to do with my role, thus they are related, thus I can get information about a role that is related to my role. It's very hard to state the obvious in here, I see.

Seriously, you've got to be doing it on purpose. i specifically made the words OWN ROLE bold red and big, is Violet's role your own role? ... I even specifically said that "not role you are linked with", and you respond, yes but I'm linked with it, you misread ...

Also, tbh, I don't buy that you are given a sibling role, you aren't explicitly told that your sister is town, yet you assume that to be obviously true to such an extent that it takes us 3 pages to get you to say what your role PM actually says.
You're a better player than that, your first thought when given a role PM like that would be whether Violet is or isn't scum.

And as I said, I can deduce from my role that she is not scum, and neither am I.

How the hell can you deduce that she is town from a role PM that supposedly says that YOU win when all town threats are eliminated?

Also:

1. "My role pm states that my partner is town.

Geez. My pm doesn't mention alignment, it simply says "you win if all threats to town are eliminated". That pretty much makes us town, I guess.

Erm, .... that might be a problem there. So you two sisters got different info in your role PM's? Two options here, either one of you is indeed scum, or you are lying.

I replaced, this might be a reason why I got a different PM?

This might have been a decent excuse for the different PM's, but you then went on to say:

The role PM I received was adressed to me and started with something like "okay, time to replace". Halfway the Pm however, he referred to Mandy (who I am replacing) so it might be copied.

Uhm, so the PM is copied and still different from Violet's ...

I'm almost starting to think that you're actively trying to kill yourself. However i very seriously doubt there's a jester in this game.
I've given you a chance to add sopmething new in your defense, but it seems like you've got nothing to add. At this point even if Mr. S would confirm that linked roles can get info about one another, it still wouldn't be enough to convinve me to back down from your lynch.
vote aage
I think that puts you at L-2.

Fastposted: Commander, he's claiming he got info via PM about Violet's role, not his OWN ROLE.
Fastposted #2: No strike, she means daze and aage.

[strike wolf]

If she meant Daze why put it in future tense like neither have died yet? "will kill"