Skoffin's Madhouse mafia Day Seven

[kwanton]

That is all assuming that skittles! is telling the truth. Which I've already said I don't believe him.

And scum could just as easily kill off non-town at this point.

Look, the only real definite bad thing that can happen from a beloved princess dying now is both recruiters get 2 recruits each. I don't even think that's too damning for town. Both gods have said that they will turn town after the other is lynched. Still, ares could very well become scum afterwards (I think we've come to a general consensus on this one). But what happens with their recruits? Would ares' recruits turn scum along with him? Uhhhh unbalanced much? Even skoffin wouldn't do that.I believe that even if ares turns scum then his recruits would return to their original roles. I don't think that they would stay cult either. If so, then why the lyncher WC? Game mechanics-wise that just doesn't make sense. 2 cult/lyncher parties with the same amount of recruits would just end up stalemating the game and eliminate any possible win for town/scum from the start. Also, I think ares turning scum isn't really too likely either (even though it's a possibility. If ares turn scum and his recruits know who e is, then that's automatic game lost for him.

Again, my first instinct was to ignore the athena/ares jumble and just keep going on our scum-hunting ways, so if the general consensus is to not lynch skittles! then I'll be happy to go back to my original plan (but why didn't more than two anti-lynch people answer when I first asked my question )

I had more thoughts, but i forgot. I just woke up and haven't had my morning smoke yet so sry for any incoherences.

[militant]

You smoke? O_o

[pancakemix]

not to mention its twice as likely for an investigator to die without being able to reveal their results

Nag provided an extra in between day in mushroom kingdom (Was that nag? There were 2 Mario games and I can't remember which it was). I don't see why Skoff would be that evil.

[Anarkistsdream]

not to mention its twice as likely for an investigator to die without being able to reveal their results

Nag provided an extra in between day in mushroom kingdom (Was that nag? There were 2 Mario games and I can't remember which it was). I don't see why Skoff would be that evil.

Then we should get to talk- all of us- and do everything but vote?

Hmmmm.

[pancakemix]

not to mention its twice as likely for an investigator to die without being able to reveal their results

Nag provided an extra in between day in mushroom kingdom (Was that nag? There were 2 Mario games and I can't remember which it was). I don't see why Skoff would be that evil.

Then we should get to talk- all of us- and do everything but vote?

Hmmmm.

But that's the worst case scenario.

[Anarkistsdream]

It isn't a scenario... It's what will happen when Skittles! turns out to be telling the truth...

[ace1217]

Anark, why are you so trusting of skittles?

[Anarkistsdream]

Anark, why are you so trusting of skittles?

Because I knew before he claimed.

[pancakemix]

Anark, why are you so trusting of skittles?

Because I knew before he claimed.

These are things you say before you make arguments like this. I still think that it's a better idea to lynch him. As I pointed out earlier, putting it in their hands is not a smart move.

[F1fth]

Or because you're in Athena's GG. I've been trying analyze everyone's actions under the assumption that Skittles was lying and everyone fit into place but you. I wondered why it could be that you take such a huge risk in defending Skittles that I realize you have nothing to lose if he dies and you were lying out your ass, because all the GG conflict is instantly resolved and out of the picture as everyone assumes a role in the scum vs. town conflict.

Just one more thing that bothered me about Skittles behavior though:

Okay, Skoffin made it really lame.

If I get killed at any time then that skips the following day.

Well, f*ck.

This seems to me like he realized he needed to protect himself from a NK and added that in to cover his ass. The way he puts it just gives me that feeling.

[Anarkistsdream]

Or because you're in Athena's GG. I've been trying analyze everyone's actions under the assumption that Skittles was lying and everyone fit into place but you. I wondered why it could be that you take such a huge risk in defending Skittles that I realize you have nothing to lose if he dies and you were lying out your ass, because all the GG conflict is instantly resolved and out of the picture as everyone assumes a role in the scum vs. town conflict.

*shrug*

You're wrong.
and What is GG? God Group?

And if I WAS in that group, don't you think there would be others defending my actions, too?

And, for the sake of argument, if I WAS lying out my ass, you guys lynch him anyway, and I turn out to be wrong, then wouldn't you KNOW and I would be next to die?

Your logic is flawed.

[pancakemix]

Or because you're in Athena's GG. I've been trying analyze everyone's actions under the assumption that Skittles was lying and everyone fit into place but you. I wondered why it could be that you take such a huge risk in defending Skittles that I realize you have nothing to lose if he dies and you were lying out your ass, because all the GG conflict is instantly resolved and out of the picture as everyone assumes a role in the scum vs. town conflict.

*shrug*
You're wrong.
and What is GG? God Group?

And if I WAS in that group, don't you think there would be others defending my actions, too?

And, for the sake of argument, if I WAS lying out my ass, you guys lynch him anyway, and I turn out to be wrong, then wouldn't you KNOW and I would be next to die?

Your logic is flawed.

That's a horrible skim, I hope you know. We've been using that term for several pages now.

They probably thought it would be a good idea to keep out of it. If I were one of them, I'd probably stay out of it, too.

If you're lying, then what happens to you is not our concern. You'll have lost and your involvement will be non-issue.

[F1fth]

Or because you're in Athena's GG. I've been trying analyze everyone's actions under the assumption that Skittles was lying and everyone fit into place but you. I wondered why it could be that you take such a huge risk in defending Skittles that I realize you have nothing to lose if he dies and you were lying out your ass, because all the GG conflict is instantly resolved and out of the picture as everyone assumes a role in the scum vs. town conflict.

*shrug*
You're wrong.
and What is GG? God Group?

And if I WAS in that group, don't you think there would be others defending my actions, too?

And, for the sake of argument, if I WAS lying out my ass, you guys lynch him anyway, and I turn out to be wrong, then wouldn't you KNOW and I would be next to die?

Your logic is flawed.

That's a horrible skim, I hope you know. We've been using that term for several pages now.

They probably thought it would be a good idea to keep out of it. If I were one of them, I'd probably stay out of it, too.

If you're lying, then what happens to you is not our concern. You'll have lost and your involvement will be non-issue.

Haha, he pretty much said it, but I have bits to add:

1. The GG acronym was something I explained in a post a little while back, which actually drew some attention from Skittles. He noted a correlation between me and Ares in that we both used an acronym. I noted that he was probably searching for Ares for some reason to notice something like that, and that I only use acronyms when they are a phrase or term that I invent.

2. Not everyone will take an aggressive approach. You might have realized that the conflict will probably be over before your actions get you killed, but every else might not have.

3. If we think you're going to become pro-town after a god is lynched, then why would we lynch you after a god is lynched?

[Salubri]

I'm sure this Skittle's lynching argumentation serves a purpose of scum hunt but for the purposes of just getting him out of the way: What's the difference between lynching skittles and asking [open call to] a vig to just kill him then?

Wih a vig, you only have to convince one person instead of of 14 not to mention that leaving it to a vig will allow us to not get too focused on the beloved princess like what happened to us with the Votecounters.

[Anarkistsdream]

Your explaining an acronym...


Hmmmm, must have been boring, so I skipped it.

Doesn't matter... You guys can think whatever you want. It truly is no concern to me.

How about this? I don't post again until this day is over. Either you lynch him, and I am proven right to all of you dipshits, or... Wait, there is no other answer.

Have fun...

You guys can thank me later. I'll expect some nice words.

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Well we can assume at least half the town is completely useless, a deadline also seems likely at this point, so either we start a solid action right now, or we become a minority in a dead game with no way to get rid of anyone.
Perhaps we should start getting rid of submariners so we can at least reach lynches rather than wait for scum to pick us off every night. also I'm willing to bet there are plenty of killers in the ranks of the inactive, two, even three killers is unlikely in a game this massive.

[Skittles!]

Well, in light of this, the only person that seems to know what my role is, the Beloved [not so beloved at the moment] Princess, has gone. This may seem suss, but hey, not my fault they decided to do something at night.

Anyway, I still stand by my role [like I have a choice] and it's only the town, and scum, that can choose if I'm to live or die.

[animorpherv1]

to the above: I think everyone who is on PCM (or mostly everyone) is scum. What scum wouldn't want to take out a beloved princess during a day phase? Waste a lynch, and kill somone good? It's a premium scum time there.

to the above of the above: I like it, but we may have to wait a little, I'm all for pressure votes, and prods, but lynching people because of their inactivity is useless. We may end up killing 1 scum and tons of town.

[Skoffin]

Deadline is Saturday 11am.
With amount of people inactive I may consider reducing the number needed for a lynch.

Which brings me onto my next point. A number of people need to be replaced, however here we run into a few problems. That being this site is running out of people. So I see three options
Option A:
Let new players replace. However I can in no way guratee their quality of playing, some could be terrible, but then you never know someone might surprise us.
Option B:
Get dead players to replace (so long as they don't have prior knowledge via roles) but that could make things confusing if too many do it.
Option C:
Modkills. However it will affect game balance, although I believe I could kill off 1-2 roles at most without harming the balance.
I think maybe a combination of all three might impact the game least and get this game going again. What do you guys think? I ask because these affect you guys more then me.

[Skittles!]

Deadline is Saturday 11am.

You can get to the city in Half an hour?

[Skoffin]

Deadline is Saturday 11am.

You can get to the city in Half an hour?

...no?

[animorpherv1]

Options A&B I like. I replaced in KOTOR after I died. Balance isn't screwed at all.

As for B: I'm finewith letting anyone play.

Modkill only if nesscary.

[sam_levi_11]

little has been happening lately in his game, and so many people are away....

btw im back from hols, sorry about two weeks ago, i got dragged to italy

[F1fth]

I am not opposed to any option so long as it helps this game out.

[Anarkistsdream]

I am not opposed to any option so long as it helps this game out.

Agreed.