***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

[reverend_kyle]

that said, I've been following MB's logic vote: bogusbet

[Bogusbet]

LOL on the bus of the bus, confusion spreading, nice tactic, but why I don't know.

My vote stands.

[Master Bush]

plus we have a Roughly 1 in 4 chance of getting infected, with 3 infected in the game and the one they gained last night.

This was on page 42, durning day 1. So how does Broom know that the game started with only 3 mafia/infected and where does he get this idea that it became 4 with a gained mafia/infected player on the first night?

Maybe that's what happened. On the first night, they infected someone, who would then become infected on the second night. And on that second night, he got to kill of a player before he died.

Lets say on night 1, the mafia infected dussle. He wouldn't know or become infected til night 2, which is when the hospital event was unlocked. Then durning the night he gets to kill a townie off as his last act in the game (supercram). And what the mafia durning the night is they infect someone new, who wont die til the following night, after they kill someone themselves. Meaning that every day after the first one will start with 2 deaths, the player the mafia infected the night before and the player the infected player decided to kill off.

I know that's a crazy, but this twist is something along those lines. And after reading every single page in this thread, broom didn't once really go after AK, and only voted for him once we found out about autoload being the cop, and he knew everyone knew that AK was mafia, and he was as good as lynched, so I jumped in early with his AK vote to look like a townie.

I no longer believe that Trestain is mafia.

The 3rd mafia member is either Bogusbet or Mach (who voted for AK on the second day, after the 8 votes were in)

UNVOTE BOGUSBET

VOTE dagreatbroomhead

[Master Bush]

Page 72, after all 8 votes were in for AK is where mach was pointing fingers at Kyle, who would make for an easy target after AK was lynched

There's either a 4th infected player working with the mafia who makes his own kills at night, along with the other 3 who make their kill, or it's my theory above. Either way, there's gonna be 2 deaths each night.

[trestain]

good point, but its still a VERY bold move to claim someone's wife (or husband, whatever) hussam either needs really big heuvos or just got lucky that your real wife wasn't in the game. I also believe that relationships is the kind of theme of this one. like i am sure (this is all pregame, before it started) IC and his mason buddies were actually masons, but before the game started, IC was infected and hense the drama. i dunno, no vote for tonight only because i don't want to see anyone lynched before i can review again.

I don't know why but since MB mentioned that theory about Wicked and Houssam he has made a fair bit of sense, (I am still worried about his erratic voting though) so i will not be jumping on either of those bandwagons yet.

MB i am almost ready to join you on dagreatboomhead though, there are a couple of things here that stand out, the (this is all pregame before it started) and not wanting a lynch tonight, there was also something else he said about the hospital event, (i will go and find it) that made me wonder.

[trestain]

The hospital event probably means something happened, like a virus outbreak, or a cure found. Those are just the extremes. I remember reading an article on events, let’s see if I can dig that up.

Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)
So what’s up? How’s it going? What happened?

Lets be frank, and don’t take this the wrong way, one of you needs to die to find out what happened. This could be good (if you were infected) or bad (if you both just became docs) but there is no way anyone can believe you unless one of you dies… sorry. I think for now, we need to let you live.

that second paragraph just does not make sense, i think i need a reread before i make my vote but MB if there is anything else on broomy let us know will you.

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[trestain]

don't know how i managed that but the quote bit is what i just wrote the rest is the actual quote

[moz976]

Well the wicked/houssam thing has certainly gotten out of hand.

I'm not really sure what to think. Either this was a masterful play by the mafia to make them look good or it could be an honest mistake by wicked (and here I thought she was perfect haha )

That being said I think I will unvote wicked

With what has been said I am leaning toward broom but at this point it's just a FOS I would like to hear his response to being under suspicion.

[Master Bush]

This is what TRESTAIN'S post should look like:

The hospital event probably means something happened, like a virus outbreak, or a cure found. Those are just the extremes. I remember reading an article on events, let’s see if I can dig that up.

Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)
So what’s up? How’s it going? What happened?

Lets be frank, and don’t take this the wrong way, one of you needs to die to find out what happened. This could be good (if you were infected) or bad (if you both just became docs) but there is no way anyone can believe you unless one of you dies… sorry. I think for now, we need to let you live.

that second paragraph just does not make sense, i think i need a reread before i make my vote but MB if there is anything else on broomy let us know will you.

[trestain]

The hospital event probably means something happened, like a virus outbreak, or a cure found. Those are just the extremes. I remember reading an article on events, let’s see if I can dig that up.

Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)
So what’s up? How’s it going? What happened?

Lets be frank, and don’t take this the wrong way, one of you needs to die to find out what happened. This could be good (if you were infected) or bad (if you both just became docs) but there is no way anyone can believe you unless one of you dies… sorry. I think for now, we need to let you live.

that second paragraph just does not make sense, i think i need a reread before i make my vote but MB if there is anything else on broomy let us know will you.[/quote]

[trestain]

lol thanks MB

[Master Bush]

And as for that second paragraph. I'm not sure who the 3rd mafia member is. In my mind it's either Bogusbet or Mach. So maybe he said that, cause it is infact bogusbet, and he wouldn't mind seeing either one of Machiavelli or Xenhu lynched.

[trestain]

i have asked him about that 3rd paragraph somewhere aswell i didn't really like the answer he gave either.

[trestain]

let the, live but don't trust them till one of them dies. i am saying that unless they come out and say they have more info, we treat them like anyone else, if we kill one, we kill one, but for reasons that we think they are mafia or not.

this was his reply when i questioned him

[Freetymes]

Hey all sorry I am so late this morning and there was a lot to read...

All of the theories so far about Wicked and Houssam do make sense to me... I need to go over it again but for now I will go with RK as I feel he is the only one I can trust for sure.

UN-VOTE WICKED

Master Bush puts forth a strong argument against Broom and I have had my suspicions abnout Broom too but at this point I am more suspecious of MB than I was yesterday. By voting Broom MB has, just in this day, indicated all but one person (RK not included) and feels all should be considered mafia. He lands hard on Bogus and now Broom all in about 15 hours. This needs consideration so I guess I have to rethink and look back at both MB and Broom very carefully.

[XenHu]

Well, now that I've learned of that little screw-up


Un-vote Houssam

I need to go back a think for awhile.


Be back soon...

-X

[HoussamTheGreat]

wow... not sure what to think really....... I have a number of theories that I have been pondering since last night - I actually lost sleep over this!! Back later...... I am not ready to let her off the hook yet though.

[Freetymes]

Damn, everybody is so quiet today, whats the deal???

I have looked through a ton of past posts and there are some disturbing trends where it comes to MB and Broom not the least of which is that both have stayed well under the radar whenb it comes to suspicion. Both are very experienced in this game and both have made well thought out posts and very little fluff. Low profiles and big posts once or twice a day in this game usually means they do not want to draw any attention but they want to sway and lead the conversation. Not a bad thing for any role but best suited to a mafia role. I would of said both of them were acting in cahoots until MB started to put a finger on Broom. Some very persuasive stuff on Broom I might add. Add in Trestains links and it sounds plausable that broom is mafia.

As for Wickeds big confession and her noticable absense since...
Either she has an amazingly well thought out plan to keep herself safe or she has a role we do not understand. She is very thourough in these games and the excuse of misreading her profile is hard to accept. However I do not think she would be the one to lynch today any more.

It may be that there is enough sentament to lynch Broom but I am not to the point of voting him yet.

We need more voices in here today to mull this over!

[dagreatbroomhead]

plus we have a Roughly 1 in 4 chance of getting infected, with 3 infected in the game and the one they gained last night.

This was on page 42, durning day 1. So how does Broom know that the game started with only 3 mafia/infected and where does he get this idea that it became 4 with a gained mafia/infected player on the first night?

Maybe that's what happened. On the first night, they infected someone, who would then become infected on the second night. And on that second night, he got to kill of a player before he died.

Lets say on night 1, the mafia infected dussle. He wouldn't know or become infected til night 2, which is when the hospital event was unlocked. Then durning the night he gets to kill a townie off as his last act in the game (supercram). And what the mafia durning the night is they infect someone new, who wont die til the following night, after they kill someone themselves. Meaning that every day after the first one will start with 2 deaths, the player the mafia infected the night before and the player the infected player decided to kill off.

I know that's a crazy, but this twist is something along those lines. And after reading every single page in this thread, broom didn't once really go after AK, and only voted for him once we found out about autoload being the cop, and he knew everyone knew that AK was mafia, and he was as good as lynched, so I jumped in early with his AK vote to look like a townie.

I no longer believe that Trestain is mafia.

The 3rd mafia member is either Bogusbet or Mach (who voted for AK on the second day, after the 8 votes were in)

UNVOTE BOGUSBET

VOTE dagreatbroomhead

pfft, weak sause evidence. If you'll notice at the time i was speculating how many mafia we had, and why there wasn't a night one kill. i do not believe in docs getting lucky the 1st night. rarely happens. I assumed 3 because i guessed that they could recruit more. ALL GUESSES! we still don't know for sure. Like i said weak sause.

next you point out that i said that one of the people in the hospital needs to die before we can believe them. Its true, isn't it? you would be willing to blindly take their word?, now that's silly. I believe thats the only two pices agaist me, if i missed anything let me know, or if you have any more questions.

oh P.S. the reason i didn't go after AK is i didn't log on between the times AK was being questioned, and when i voted for him. you can't ask me to post on events that i wasn't here for.

[Freetymes]

Ok kids I am outta here in about an hour and heading for some snow to play in. I plan on voting before I leave but from what we have now and the lack of conversation I am feeling like we are doing ourselves a disservice. how can we narrow this down if we do not talk to each other?

I have re-done my research and I have some idea how I am going to fall on this but we need consensus!

Where is everybody???

[XenHu]

I have prepared my vote:...


Vote: Broom

MB's theory seems sound and I can't find any(heavy) evidence to prove him wrong. So I'm going to side with him.. If Broom turns out to be a townie, then MB gets my next vote...

-X

[wicked]

AK_iceman (H)
autoload (H)
dussle (H)
Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)

Backglass (G)
Bogusbet (G)
Master Bush (G)
moz976 (G)
reverend_kyle (G)
Houssam (G)

dagreatbroomhead (T)
Freetymes (T)
supercram (T)
trestain (T)
wicked (T)

QFE

[Machiavelli]

The 3rd mafia member is either Bogusbet or Mach (who voted for AK on the second day, after the 8 votes were in)

I posted this awhile ago in response to you saying that I wasnt involved in voting AK.

I was the very first person to vote him!

Awhile ago, Master Bush tried to claim that he started the movement to lynch AK, but that is total Bull Sh!t. I first accussed AK as a joke for being a woman guard, then Auto jumped on AK and gave him the first FOS, but no vote. I voted AK but no one else did until at the very end of the day Wicked miraculously switched sides.

I'm watching you MB

Oooh, cool. I hope you were watching when I started the movement to lynch AK and autoload.

I'm pretty sure you didnt start the movement to lynch AK.

No you are wrong. When most people were voting no Lynch or not voting at all, I was the one who said it would be dumb not to kill either Autoload or AK. I said it over and over again, that onc had to be lynched, so we could see who was lying about their role claims. I was all set to vote AK until autoload was picking up votes, and then AK coming out and saying that him and Rev used radios to talk as masons. I believed he was infact telling the truth, because me and cram also used radios as masons. That's why I changed my vote to autoload. It turns out that AK was a two-faced mason/mafia, which is why he knew about the radios. I was the 7th vote out of 8 to lynch him on the second day.

When I just did that scan reread, MB was throwing names out the whole time, he wasnt sure of anything, but now he is certain that both Wicked and Houssam are townies


Auto was the first serious accuser check on page 4 if you want to verify that.
I was the first vote check on page 15 if you want to verify that.

Master Bush you're waffling is very suspicious.

[moz976]

What is QFE?

[XenHu]

AK_iceman (H)
autoload (H)
dussle (H)
Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)

Backglass (G)
Bogusbet (G)
Master Bush (G)
moz976 (G)
reverend_kyle (G)
Houssam (G)

dagreatbroomhead (T)
Freetymes (T)
supercram (T)
trestain (T)
wicked (T)

QFE

Are you trying to imply something?

-X