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[Mr. Squirrel]

Also if allowable I'm willing to put up my name to replace someone

Sorry, but you know too much

[edocsil]

Also if allowable I'm willing to put up my name to replace someone

Sorry, but you know too much

How bought me I was all alone...

[Mr. Squirrel]

Also if allowable I'm willing to put up my name to replace someone

Sorry, but you know too much

How bought me I was all alone...

I'll check both of your situations when the time comes to replace some people. For now, you guys are staying dead.

[strike wolf]

Also if allowable I'm willing to put up my name to replace someone

Sorry, but you know too much

How bought me I was all alone...

I'll check both of your situations when the time comes to replace some people. For now, you guys are staying dead.

I think pmc needs to be replaced or at least prodded, I don't think he's popped up since day 1

[Iliad]

4 deaths, but at least one scum and all the deaths give useful info.
freezie-killed by pgo and I have strong suspicions about who that pgo was.
Also will check through her posts, she struck me as someone who was keeping quiet but otherwise not particularly scummy.
Fircoal-poisoner, also we got a role name of who he was protecting. Interesting I think this is the first poisoner death.
edoscil-regular kill. Probably the mafia kill.
Vio-either cpr doctor or suicide, but prob first.

While that is interesting, and i'll check the freezie lead, we should remember Saxlad. I'm pretty sure everyone was convinced that he was mafia but preoccupied with previous bigger leads. He hasn't been contributing at all, just skimming and submarining and finally posting an 'i agree post' and waggon hopping. In other words: mafia.

vote saxlad

[Haggis_McMutton]

Oh, yeah.
Thanks for reminding me about Sax. Made this post back pn page 74, before all the aage madness.

I'd also like to attract attention towards Saxlad. Some of his posts struck me as pretty scummy, so i looked over his post history and it doesn't look too good to me. He's firmly in the "i post a lot but i don't say anything category", furthermore he seems to enjoy quoting a long-ass analysis only to write a quck FOS or VOTE for some bullshit reason or another. Observe:

Players:
1. chu
2. edocsil
3. vic
4. ga7
5. Theherkman
6. pmc
7. AoG
8. lala
9. freezie
10. violet
11. haggis_mcmutton
12. cena
13. TG
14. Flores
15. commander
16. the saxlad
17. sensfan
18. karel
19. stike wolf
20. iliad
21. nag
22. /
23. spiesr
24. jace
25. ace
26. naxus
27. thez
28. mandy
29. blakebowling
30.dazerazer

Ok just thought I'd note this...I'm looking at this list and there are a few inactives like
Mandy who seems to have just disappeared
lalaland who's posted some but been fairly quiet throughout the day only confirming and making a comment about if he wasn't sure if mandy was role claiming or joking
PMC who was fairly active for about a day RL time and than disappeared
Karel who confirmed made one joke vote and than resurfaced today and made a relevant comment about the current suspect.
Thez who other than confirming his role has not posted.
Cena with the same scenario as Thez

And possibly a couple others that I have missed.

the activity has been fairly good in this game but thought I'd post this as in a game this size it is easy to miss the inactives.

Surely Pointing Out all the inactives, trying to draw the vote away from them is a scumtell?

FOS Strikewolf.

Real solid reasoning here ...

Guys, This is my first mafia game as well.

I can assure you I am not mafia, and whether it be my death or whether the doc chooses to protect me, if a cop searches me and can back up I will roleclaim next round.

You dont have to back me openly, just dont vote for me.

WTF was up with this? Seriously?

ok no role claiming then.



Is daze hung yet?

Anyone else still curious how the hell herk knew there could be a punisher? It is one of the most obscure roles in the game

You've been skimming a lot. I don't know, I mentioned that there might be. I've also provided links to where I've read it.

Well going back through his early posts. His first post showed he at least had some basic knowledge of cops and doctors coming into the game. Shortly after he mentioned that this was his first mafia game online. So he does possibly have more history in mafia than he has let on just on a different stage. I also don't like how he has for a large part of the game just echoed town sentiment. I do like that he went out of his way to make an extensive about specific activity in the game. But other than that he hasn't taken much of his own initiative except for trying to raise suspicion against anyone who has voted for him or questioned his logic (aog and commander)

True, I do know how to play, but it's a different dynamic playing online. More thought I think. It seems to me that there is more random blundering and less thought to games played in-person. It has also been a great number of years since my last game. I used to play as a young teen on church road trips. It was all we did. We made up our own flavors/factions/roles/everything and played for hours on end, game after game. Anyway, I digress. I'm not voting AOG again out of spite or commander for his nonsense... I have no FOS at AOG, and a strong one at commander, but I am not convinced he is scum.

And i do try. Do you know how long those linkys took? Hehe a long ass time.

so spending all your time trying to persuade us your not scum, by leading us off on the completely wrong track?

Small FOS herkman.

Yeah, solid reasoning again ...

You should be keeping an eye on blakebowling. I say that I am have information about a doc and know who two trusted townies are and he votes me... HELLO? Did anyone miss this?

All I seen was you overreacting ONCE AGAIN calling out a single vote on you. A single vote and you call someone for '' trying to call a lynch on you''.

Dude, you're not at l-1..you're a l-a gazibillion votes.

Found this on page 47.

Herk You need to spill now. HTF did you know what was going on...

Uhm, herk basically explained why he was voting blake IN THE QUOTE, what was this all about?

Either way I'm surprised that more blood wasn't shed, in a 30 player game there could be up to 5 or so killing roles.

Well it looks to me like this was a case of one killing role killing another killing role (perhaps the punisher? blake did make a role claim of some kind on one of the pages) preventing the latter killing role's kill to go throughv or less likely Blake's role was busdriven back at himself. I also wouldn't put it past the mod to have a Poisoner in this game and my experience is that most good vigs and JOATS won't attempt to kill anyone until they have a good sense of who's mafia.

Also FOS: TheSaxLad You want to vote herk because he and Aage were the only two to FOS Blake? first of all I believe that is false as far as being the only two. Second of all, the logic that it is because they must know more than everyone else makes no sense whatsoever.

No Im voting herk because, he seems A. too active
B. he seems as though he knows a lot, especially about blakebowling.
C. How?

Those are my main questions/statements, as soon as/ if I get satisfying answers then I will change my vote, maybe it might even bring the scum out.

Wow, I don't think i could make up more bullshit sounding reasons if i tried. He's posting too much and happened to FOS the guy who turned out to be scum, yeah ...

After reading the pages above:

unovte vote aage

reasons above in the last 3 pages.

Just switching the waggon, nothing to see here ...

Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie? This is really beginning to bother me. He did some wacked shit yesterday and is starting it up again today, and when he is presented with a logical argument he flames. And then by magic everyone agrees with him and jumps on his OMGUS wagon

Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.

What is going on here?

Why are you protecting him?
Guys i think we found another mafia waiting to be lynched...

Uhm, just wow ...

FOS Saxlad

Here are some of the posts he's made since:

So Jace or Aage?

I have voted for Aage at the moment and will keep it that way until any new evidence comes up.
BTW,
@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

Which waggon do you guys want me on?
Followed by fishing for info.

So Jace or Aage?

I have voted for Aage at the moment and will keep it that way until any new evidence comes up.
BTW,
@Aage, any unshared information About THK could keep you alive so its probably in your best interests to tell us.

How about you actually vote them for your own reasons sax. The fact that you seem to just want to follow whichever one the rest of us wants to lynch is suspicious. FOS Sax.

If there was an own notes button I would have used it. This is my own thoughts on the matter, I am voting for my own reasons, just airing my thoughts live.

Maybe you should ... i don't know ... TELL US THOSE REASONS?

unvote

Well what a turn up for the books.

Now it seems funny to me that herk had a one-minded thing to kill Aage, so for the momment FOS on herkman, with a view to voting him if noone corroborates his story.

Anyone want to confirm herkman is a townie, otherwise for leading the bandwagon herk is definitely the scummiest to me at the moment.

Yay, fishing for more info.

I think that's enough to warrant a vote
Vote Saxlad

[Victor Sullivan]

Holy f*ck people... We go from one death to 4...

freezie - possibly killed by a pgo
Fircoal - poisoned
edocsil - gunshot to the chest
VioIet - I personally think she was killed due to aage's lynching since she was clutching a picture of him/her when she died, though the burn marks could indicate otherwise.

A look at Night 1:
blakebowling - stabbed to death, probably by herk's group's SK or whatever.

So it sounds like freezie, Fircoal, and edocsil were all victims of the mafia, no? None of them were stabbed, which leads me to believe herk's group didn't kill anyone, which leads me to believe herk is the one that actually killed blakebowling (though with the busdriver in the mix, who knows?...though the scene didn't really imply a busdriver was involved at all...) since he's been banned and probably missed his night action (therefore not killing anyone), though one of the two people Fircoal were protecting could have been herk's group's SK's target, who knows?

My analysis: Assuming freezie, Fircoal, and edocsil's deaths were all at the hands of mafia (which I would think is a good assumption, though I suppose a pgo could be 3rd party), I think there are two mafia factions, and I'm guessing each faction can only do one kill a night so... I think Night 1, one mafia faction poisoned Fircoal (and maybe it takes another night to take effect?) and the other mafia faction tried to kill someone that was protected, thus only herk's group's kill occurred during Night 2. Then both mafia factions targeted a person to kill Night 2 (freezie and edocsil) and the poison kicked in for Fircoal leaving us with three deaths (though I don't know how the pgo fits into this... maybe one mafia faction targeted one of the people Fircoal was protecting and the presumably 3rd party pgo was targeted to get busdriven by freezie? Idk...)

Just some theories... I think I will cast my vote for the person who switched their vote around a lot Day 2: vote strike wolf It seems to me you were the same way on Day 1 as well, but my memory's not what it used to be...

-Sully

[Flow520]

I'm guessing Violet died due to her sister being lynched?

Death by defibrillator screams "killed by CPR doctor" to me. For those who haven't heard of it, it is basically like a doctor, except that if it tries to save a player who is not targeted for a night kill, then it kills the person instead.

VioIet - I personally think she was killed due to aage's lynching since she was clutching a picture of him/her when she died, though the burn marks could indicate otherwise.

I have to agree with the later analysis. That whole Yin Yang thing with their last names is too uncanny for one to be able to live without the other...

Aage: Sarah Yin - Town Bulletproof Enabler

Violet: Tessa Yang - Town unlynchable enabler

[Iliad]

I'm pretty sure the yin yang symbolises how one is untouchable at night and one is untouchable during day.

[strike wolf]

One problem here...I highly doubt that Freezie (mafia busdriver) was killed by the mafia victor. As far as who's suspicious i have to agree with Sax. He was already high on my list right behind Jace but with Freezie being a part of the Jace wagon, I think it makes it a lot less likely Jace has any actual links to Blake Bowling. Freezie did also vote Sax but it was different, under the conditions it was there was really no strong movement to attempt any lynch against him (we were more distracted with Daze, Herk and other wagons) so it looks less likely Freezie was actually trying to push for his lynch and more likely that he may have actually been putting his vote on sax for other reasons that aren't really clear. Regardless of what it means though, Sax's abnormal behavior from yesterday and day 1, and Jace being slightly less suspicious given current circumstances, I have to think Sax is the scummiest player rihgt now.

Vote Sax

[spiesr]

That whole Yin Yang thing with their last names is too uncanny for one to be able to live without the other...

Aage: Sarah Yin - Town Bulletproof Enabler
Violet: Tessa Yang - Town unlynchable enabler

I'm pretty sure the yin yang symbolises how one is untouchable at night and one is untouchable during day.

It could have meant any number of things. I was considering it to have implied that one was town and the other scum, but violet's death showed otherwise. It may have simply been unimportant theme naming for the linked roles...

[strike wolf]

The whole vioIet dying because of Aage or CPR dr. Both seem possible though I think her holding a picture of Aage was probably just for flavor and the CPR Dr. seems more likely. Someone asked if the CPR Dr. could have been the one to kill blake night 1...I doubt it but if that's true that would imply Herk was lying again I doubt that...The only question is if it wasn't the CPR Doc...what was the Doc doing night 1? Possibly roleblocked I guess? Or possibly that he actually suceeded in protecting someone?

[spiesr]

The whole vioIet dying because of Aage or CPR dr. Both seem possible though I think her holding a picture of Aage was probably just for flavor and the CPR Dr. seems more likely. Someone asked if the CPR Dr. could have been the one to kill blake night 1...I doubt it but if that's true that would imply Herk was lying again I doubt that...The only question is if it wasn't the CPR Doc...what was the Doc doing night 1? Possibly roleblocked I guess? Or possibly that he actually succeeded in protecting someone?

Well, to me it could fit what herk has claimed about his group. He said he knew the doctor, and he claimed to have killed blake without having a vig.
On the other hand, as for what the CPR doc could have done during night 1, he might not have used his powers that night if he knew the risk if he guessed wrong. But at this point, this is all mostly just speculation...

[strike wolf]

very true...vio was hinted at being at one of the most likely night kills...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Wowzers the new title of the thread is right on. Bloodbath...

Hm I pretty much agree w/ everyone about freezie's pgo death, cpr doc, etc. etc.

Sax is pretty suspicious, but you all seem to be handling that. I'm gonna vote Jace.

wow, that was far bloodier than expected

Did you have some sort of knowledge of what was going down? Also, this post was from the 2nd, his last was from Nov. 22:

so it seems like I'm being accused because I happened to vote very similarly to blake. That seems like a weak reason to me. Yeah I voted daze yesterday, but so did a lot of other people. And like I stated when I voted lala, that was more of a prod to get her to play. Don't know why blake voted her as well. I did eventually switch back to daze, but the main reason for that was because of the deadline and because I didn't completely buy her story at the time(and neither did a lot of other people at the time) For a while I had planned on doing prod votes, but like I said, the deadline changed my plans. From what I've seen so far today, vote aage for trying to get everyone to vote off herk.

Which was in response to a few votes he had.

Scummarining to the max.

I think some prods would be in order (pmc and sens jump to mind).

-Tails

P.S. I love how this discussion is going, what with serious talk and not a bunch of OMGUSing. This has turned out wonderfully.

[Jace22]

I was expecting it to be similar to night 1, maybe 1 more death, but 4 total in the night, plus the 2 modkills and the lynch totaled 7 people. Definitely a massacre. And the reason I haven't been posting was I've been super busy with end of term projects and tests, so I have had so little time to read this thread, let alone post.

[Thezzaruz]

the implied CPR doctor left? If that is all we have left then we could be in trouble, as far as protective roles go, that one is not that good. Could be useful for it's killing abilities though. I wonder if that is the one who performed open heart surgery on blake the other night...

If we have a CPR Doc then that seems very likely. Not sure on the CPR Doc v Sibling suicide yet but on the info available I'm leaning towards the Doc atm, I just not sure I understand why that person would target Vio (even though she was a somewhat likely target for NKs) when he/she had seen what happened to blake (and thus should have figured out being a CPR if that info wasn't given in his/her role).

Does freezie's death sound like a paranoid gun owner to you?

Very much so.

My analysis: Assuming freezie, Fircoal, and edocsil's deaths were all at the hands of mafia (which I would think is a good assumption, though I suppose a pgo could be 3rd party)

I would say that it is a crappy assumption. A PGO regularly is a townie and sometimes a 3:rd party survivor but almost never scum.



Also I have to agree with those looking as Saxlad atm. Though I'll hold off with adding my vote for a while to allow him to explain himself a bit better.

[sensfan]

Whoah. Not a good night, I don't think 3 town for 1 scum is a very good ratio.

[karelpietertje]

Meanwhile, Judy sat in her small hotel feeding cookies to the two guests seated before her. One of them, the famous Pablo Sanchez Garcia IV, was a great philosopher and genius. He had taken residence in her hotel over the past few weeks as he studied workers' relationships in the city. He had even taken to mentoring her during his stay. The night had been going peacefully and Judy had just sat down for.her nightly cup of tea. However after the first few sips she noticed something was odd. After a few more she started feeling nauseous. Suddenly, she collapsed. Pablo, ran over, but by the time he got there the poison had fully worked into her system and she was dead.[/i]

Judy Swan: Fircoal - Good Neighbor (two protects a night) has been killed!

This Pablo Sanchez Garcia IV sounds real cool. He mentors people Wonder if he's town/scum/3rd party.

[Commander9]

Okay, forget Herk - looks like he may not be scum after all... Or at least there are some other people more interesting.

I've reviewed a lot of people's posts through the our days and I can say that mafia has been playing really well. These guys couldn't be newbies that attract a lot of attention to them and who know better than not to contribute. Two people in particular have posted quite a bit and it seems that they contributed, but both of them have also been behind as of the main advocates for our both lynches so far and of whom both turned out to be townies. Both of them also been smart enough not to go to too many bandwagons and have been consistent enough through the game. They've also done really well to convince that aage is scum even after he claimed...

Yes, Haggis and Flores, I'm talking about you two. (P.S. Haggis, I loved when you posted that huge post saying that you'll make lots of mafia members and others unhappy - brilliant effort )

Vote Flores.

Also, I do think that Sully is also in the same wagon with few others. Sully in particular has played really well and while he posts frequently enough, he is the only one probably so far to have avoided causing any tension and confrontations. Always go with the flow, always disappear during faithful moments, always post great and logical conclusions, but just a bit too late.

Also,

FoS on ga7

You sir have been interesting for a while, but I'm not completely sure whether you're connected to them, so it's a FoS for now.

Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.

You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!

There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.

Aage's only defense to people pointing out he's trying to out a second target so that mafia can at least kill one of the masons is:

He has admitted he's not a cop so it's not the reason he's going after Herk. I do not believe it's a stubborn townie talking, it is one that desperately wants to take a dent at the town group that could be the main threat to mafia. I don't see any rationale towards his fishing other than satisfying curiosity...

When I won't be around anymore, remember this post - I think I've just signed my death warrant.

[Victor Sullivan]

P.S. I love how this discussion is going, what with serious talk and not a bunch of OMGUSing. This has turned out wonderfully.

And conveniently herk isn't here. Interesting...

Okay, forget Herk - looks like he may not be scum after all... Or at least there are some other people more interesting.

I've reviewed a lot of people's posts through the our days and I can say that mafia has been playing really well. These guys couldn't be newbies that attract a lot of attention to them and who know better than not to contribute. Two people in particular have posted quite a bit and it seems that they contributed, but both of them have also been behind as of the main advocates for our both lynches so far and of whom both turned out to be townies. Both of them also been smart enough not to go to too many bandwagons and have been consistent enough through the game. They've also done really well to convince that aage is scum even after he claimed...

Yes, Haggis and Flores, I'm talking about you two. (P.S. Haggis, I loved when you posted that huge post saying that you'll make lots of mafia members and others unhappy - brilliant effort )

Vote Flores.

Also, I do think that Sully is also in the same wagon with few others. Sully in particular has played really well and while he posts frequently enough, he is the only one probably so far to have avoided causing any tension and confrontations. Always go with the flow, always disappear during faithful moments, always post great and logical conclusions, but just a bit too late.

Also,

FoS on ga7

You sir have been interesting for a while, but I'm not completely sure whether you're connected to them, so it's a FoS for now.

Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.

You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!

There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.

Aage's only defense to people pointing out he's trying to out a second target so that mafia can at least kill one of the masons is:

He has admitted he's not a cop so it's not the reason he's going after Herk. I do not believe it's a stubborn townie talking, it is one that desperately wants to take a dent at the town group that could be the main threat to mafia. I don't see any rationale towards his fishing other than satisfying curiosity...

When I won't be around anymore, remember this post - I think I've just signed my death warrant.

Nice analysis, Commander. I suppose you do have some points with me, but I've been trying to play this way cuz I wants prems, just like everyone else. The timing of my posts are based on my work schedule, not so much that I'm carefully placing my posts at such times that it avoids conflict without raising suspicion. I will give you props, though, the accusations you made certainly don't qualify as OMGUS. In fact, on further review I think ga7 and Haggis seem like quite the dynamic duo, if they're both scum (not sure about flores, haven't played enough with her, I'm afraid). FOSs on the both of ya for now, I'll look into this further.

-Sully

[Commander9]

Nice analysis, Commander. I suppose you do have some points with me, but I've been trying to play this way cuz I wants prems, just like everyone else. The timing of my posts are based on my work schedule, not so much that I'm carefully placing my posts at such times that it avoids conflict without raising suspicion. I will give you props, though, the accusations you made certainly don't qualify as OMGUS. In fact, on further review I think ga7 and Haggis seem like quite the dynamic duo, if they're both scum (not sure about flores, haven't played enough with her, I'm afraid). FOSs on the both of ya for now, I'll look into this further.

-Sully

Good response Sully, however you're definitely not off the hook. You can kill people at night... and you do. Of course you want prem, just like everyone else, but there are more reasons than that. You defending Flores makes me even more convinced about flores and now I'm almost completely convinced she's in. Ga7 has the weakest case of all the people, but since he seems connected.

Just in case, if someone will want to review afterwards, these are the people that I think are in the mafia:

First and fore most, Flores, Sully and Haggis, in that order. I'm fairly sure Ga7 and sensfan are in it too.

Players I find rather interesting, but don't have enough evidence (as of yet anyways): Herk (but he should be left until at least his forum ban ends so he could defend himself), tails (not too convinced, but had some scummy behaviour), sax (but might be just more of case that he cba'd enough), nag and strike. I'm trying to keep an eye on others too, but that's about as much as I can tell at the moment. Don't forget the post later - it should be useful for other townies.

[strike wolf]

Nice analysis, Commander. I suppose you do have some points with me, but I've been trying to play this way cuz I wants prems, just like everyone else. The timing of my posts are based on my work schedule, not so much that I'm carefully placing my posts at such times that it avoids conflict without raising suspicion. I will give you props, though, the accusations you made certainly don't qualify as OMGUS. In fact, on further review I think ga7 and Haggis seem like quite the dynamic duo, if they're both scum (not sure about flores, haven't played enough with her, I'm afraid). FOSs on the both of ya for now, I'll look into this further.

-Sully

Good response Sully, however you're definitely not off the hook. You can kill people at night... and you do. Of course you want prem, just like everyone else, but there are more reasons than that. You defending Flores makes me even more convinced about flores and now I'm almost completely convinced she's in. Ga7 has the weakest case of all the people, but since he seems connected.

Just in case, if someone will want to review afterwards, these are the people that I think are in the mafia:

First and fore most, Flores, Sully and Haggis, in that order. I'm fairly sure Ga7 and sensfan are in it too.

Players I find rather interesting, but don't have enough evidence (as of yet anyways): Herk (but he should be left until at least his forum ban ends so he could defend himself), tails (not too convinced, but had some scummy behaviour), sax (but might be just more of case that he cba'd enough), nag and strike. I'm trying to keep an eye on others too, but that's about as much as I can tell at the moment. Don't forget the post later - it should be useful for other townies.

Whoa...Sully can kill people? How do you know that?

[Victor Sullivan]

Players I find rather interesting, but don't have enough evidence (as of yet anyways): Herk (but he should be left until at least his forum ban ends so he could defend himself), tails (not too convinced, but had some scummy behaviour), sax (but might be just more of case that he cba'd enough), nag and strike. I'm trying to keep an eye on others too, but that's about as much as I can tell at the moment. Don't forget the post later - it should be useful for other townies.

Who doesn't that include?

[Victor Sullivan]

Nice analysis, Commander. I suppose you do have some points with me, but I've been trying to play this way cuz I wants prems, just like everyone else. The timing of my posts are based on my work schedule, not so much that I'm carefully placing my posts at such times that it avoids conflict without raising suspicion. I will give you props, though, the accusations you made certainly don't qualify as OMGUS. In fact, on further review I think ga7 and Haggis seem like quite the dynamic duo, if they're both scum (not sure about flores, haven't played enough with her, I'm afraid). FOSs on the both of ya for now, I'll look into this further.

-Sully

Good response Sully, however you're definitely not off the hook. You can kill people at night... and you do. Of course you want prem, just like everyone else, but there are more reasons than that. You defending Flores makes me even more convinced about flores and now I'm almost completely convinced she's in. Ga7 has the weakest case of all the people, but since he seems connected.

Just in case, if someone will want to review afterwards, these are the people that I think are in the mafia:

First and fore most, Flores, Sully and Haggis, in that order. I'm fairly sure Ga7 and sensfan are in it too.

Players I find rather interesting, but don't have enough evidence (as of yet anyways): Herk (but he should be left until at least his forum ban ends so he could defend himself), tails (not too convinced, but had some scummy behaviour), sax (but might be just more of case that he cba'd enough), nag and strike. I'm trying to keep an eye on others too, but that's about as much as I can tell at the moment. Don't forget the post later - it should be useful for other townies.

Whoa...Sully can kill people? How do you know that?

Yes, Commander... How do you know I can kill people, when I assure you I most certainly can't.