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Postby Huckleberryhound on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:53 pm

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Huckleberryhound wrote:The reason i haven't contributed is because i have no ideas who the scum are. If i just post for the sake of it, i'm accused of spamming, and if i vote for a believable scum theory......i'm bandwagonning.


There are people out there with a better grasp of the game, surely they are the ones that need to be posting, not me.


And i'll say again, i was a SUB for this game, which means that there weren't enough players to play the game (one dropped out), and Mandy PM'd me and asked me to play........This is one of two games i'm in, and i was asked to sub by PM on both of them.


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It's starting to be a pain in the balls, really it is :P
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:07 pm

Neutrino wrote:Jedi function like Masons (I remember reading that a while back) and so Firth would know the identity of all the Jedi. Obviously this knowledge would be unfair in the hands of any non-Jedi, so I can see whle Mandy didn't let him replace. Really all it proves is that Aegnor/AK is not a Jedi; exactly the same as the majority of the Republic side (it would be more than a little unfair if the entire town was composed of powerrole masons).

Whoa. You remember reading this awhile back? Can you find it?

If you read Mandys post on page 93, I think that will change your mind about that statement also.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:08 pm

AK_iceman wrote:
Neutrino wrote:Jedi function like Masons (I remember reading that a while back) and so Firth would know the identity of all the Jedi. Obviously this knowledge would be unfair in the hands of any non-Jedi, so I can see whle Mandy didn't let him replace. Really all it proves is that Aegnor/AK is not a Jedi; exactly the same as the majority of the Republic side (it would be more than a little unfair if the entire town was composed of powerrole masons).

Whoa. You remember reading this awhile back? Can you find it?

If you read Mandys post on page 93, I think that will change your mind about that statement also.


AK... He has already been asked to find it like 3 times...

Want to post something productive, and not just repost others' ideas?
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Postby MountainLion on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:14 pm

Selin wrote:AK, you wrote you trust wicked %100, indicating that your new role is same as hers. Please read wicked's role claim wording on page 26 which I copied below and tell if the wording is the same as wicked wrote. Of course I don't mean her name, but every word other than her name.


This is a great point. Because of Mandy's announced mistake, AK couldn't be a Jedi and yet he says that he believe's wicked's roleclaim (which is a jedi roleclaim).

Care to explain AK?
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:17 pm

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Neutrino wrote:Jedi function like Masons (I remember reading that a while back) and so Firth would know the identity of all the Jedi. Obviously this knowledge would be unfair in the hands of any non-Jedi, so I can see whle Mandy didn't let him replace. Really all it proves is that Aegnor/AK is not a Jedi; exactly the same as the majority of the Republic side (it would be more than a little unfair if the entire town was composed of powerrole masons).

Whoa. You remember reading this awhile back? Can you find it?

If you read Mandys post on page 93, I think that will change your mind about that statement also.


AK... He has already been asked to find it like 3 times...

Want to post something productive, and not just repost others' ideas?

Read the second half of my post, had that been posted yet? I didn't think so. Stop trying to pick fights and put that energy into finding scum.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:18 pm

AK_iceman wrote:
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AK_iceman wrote:
Neutrino wrote:Jedi function like Masons (I remember reading that a while back) and so Firth would know the identity of all the Jedi. Obviously this knowledge would be unfair in the hands of any non-Jedi, so I can see whle Mandy didn't let him replace. Really all it proves is that Aegnor/AK is not a Jedi; exactly the same as the majority of the Republic side (it would be more than a little unfair if the entire town was composed of powerrole masons).

Whoa. You remember reading this awhile back? Can you find it?

If you read Mandys post on page 93, I think that will change your mind about that statement also.


AK... He has already been asked to find it like 3 times...

Want to post something productive, and not just repost others' ideas?

Read the second half of my post, had that been posted yet? I didn't think so. Stop trying to pick fights and put that energy into finding scum.



Awww, but I like to argue with you.... You're no fun. :(
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:19 pm

MountainLion wrote:
Selin wrote:AK, you wrote you trust wicked %100, indicating that your new role is same as hers. Please read wicked's role claim wording on page 26 which I copied below and tell if the wording is the same as wicked wrote. Of course I don't mean her name, but every word other than her name.


This is a great point. Because of Mandy's announced mistake, AK couldn't be a Jedi and yet he says that he believe's wicked's roleclaim (which is a jedi roleclaim).

Care to explain AK?

Please explain how I couldn't possibly be a Jedi?

Read these 3 posts and tell me why how you know anything about my role based on Mandy.
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mandalorian2298 wrote:Firth couldn't get the role because he knows relevant info concerning HIS role.


If Luke Skywalker (Firth) had information concerning his role, that would be some kind of Jedi Master (good guy) information. Now if he can't play Aegnor/AK's role then that, in my mind, means he is in some way on a different side of this game than Luke Skywalker. We know there is the Vong, we've had a survivor and lyncher, but no matter what the role is, we know it's not on the Jedi side. Am I right or am I missing something?


On the other hand, if Firth had some kind of usefull knowledge, it would be unfair for me to allow him back in the game, no matter on whom side.

Look guys, I don't care whom you lynch, but I feel that I should tell you that Firth couldn't sub because of his previous (Luke Skywalker) role, no matter whom he subed.
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Postby wicked on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:20 pm

We need to have a mafia game where Mandy, Ank and I just argue with each other nonstop. Whoever is left standing at the end wins. :lol:
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Postby MountainLion on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:23 pm

Talapus wrote:Also, I liked some of the theories posted earlier in the day that were discussed, but a few pages later we're getting away from that and going after certain players that really don't have much against them. Why not look back at the earlier evidence rather then jumping on the next poster who says something that may or may not be scummy. A lot of people have brought that evidence out, ML was the most recent. Let's focus on that, at least that's something we don't really have to guess at.

Just me thinking out loud though....


so are you saying my theory on kalish is worth looking at?...no one else seemed to give it much thought. :|
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:24 pm

wicked wrote:We need to have a mafia game where Mandy, Ank and I just argue with each other nonstop. Whoever is left standing at the end wins. :lol:



Hahahaha... That would be fun... But we need Trestain in there too for good measure.
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Postby Talapus on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:26 pm

MountainLion wrote:
Talapus wrote:Also, I liked some of the theories posted earlier in the day that were discussed, but a few pages later we're getting away from that and going after certain players that really don't have much against them. Why not look back at the earlier evidence rather then jumping on the next poster who says something that may or may not be scummy. A lot of people have brought that evidence out, ML was the most recent. Let's focus on that, at least that's something we don't really have to guess at.

Just me thinking out loud though....


so are you saying my theory on kalish is worth looking at?...no one else seemed to give it much thought. :|



That's the point...everyone jumped on one bandwagon or another and completely forgot about it. Why make something out of nothing with those players when you at least provided us with a lead is beyond me. :roll:
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Postby wicked on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:27 pm

I wouldn't know, trestain always agrees with me. He probably sees arguing with me to be a lost cause, as most soon find out. :lol:
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:27 pm

wicked wrote:I wouldn't know, trestain always agrees with me. He probably sees arguing with me to be a lost cause, as most soon find out. :lol:


Some of us just have too much fun.... 8)
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Postby wicked on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:28 pm

for those of us who can't be arsed to go back and find that kalish theory, can someone summarize? on behalf of the lazy-ass mafia players here in this game, thanks!
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Postby nagerous on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:32 pm

Talapus wrote:
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Talapus wrote:Also, I liked some of the theories posted earlier in the day that were discussed, but a few pages later we're getting away from that and going after certain players that really don't have much against them. Why not look back at the earlier evidence rather then jumping on the next poster who says something that may or may not be scummy. A lot of people have brought that evidence out, ML was the most recent. Let's focus on that, at least that's something we don't really have to guess at.

Just me thinking out loud though....


so are you saying my theory on kalish is worth looking at?...no one else seemed to give it much thought. :|



That's the point...everyone jumped on one bandwagon or another and completely forgot about it. Why make something out of nothing with those players when you at least provided us with a lead is beyond me. :roll:


I agree I'm getting pretty tired of making long posts piecing together bits of evidence that are just read by a couple of players whilst everyone else seems to be just watching the AK_Iceman, Anarkistsdream, Wicked show.
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Postby kalishnikov on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:33 pm

MountainLion wrote:
Talapus wrote:Also, I liked some of the theories posted earlier in the day that were discussed, but a few pages later we're getting away from that and going after certain players that really don't have much against them. Why not look back at the earlier evidence rather then jumping on the next poster who says something that may or may not be scummy. A lot of people have brought that evidence out, ML was the most recent. Let's focus on that, at least that's something we don't really have to guess at.

Just me thinking out loud though....


so are you saying my theory on kalish is worth looking at?...no one else seemed to give it much thought. :|


Your theory about me answers itself when you read the post in question in context with the others posted at that time. I'm not being insulting in any way but perhaps it wasn't given much thought because it lacks merit.
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Postby nagerous on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:36 pm

Thats not meant as offence to any of those players, its just led to a little bit of delusionment. The case mountainlion against Kalish is relatively sound and might be worth following up but I'm not entirely convinced as I think his recent comments towards Neutrino illustrate those of someone who is in the know as it were. Also, being a subber he had a lot of catching up to do and they are not always on the same wavelength as all the players are and hence thats a possible reason for him not understanding the exile lynch.
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:40 pm

MountainLion wrote:I found some interesting posts by kalish right on the two pages just before Exile is lynched. Kalish suggests that Exile's claim as survivor could become a more useful role later on which is an agreement with what Exile said about his "roleclaim."

On page 78:

kalishnikov wrote:Well if Exile's claim is true, I don't see a need to lynch him quite yet. If we get no better leads he would make a decent fall-back to end Day 2. Another possibility, perhaps he's linked to a different character to gain his powers. I'm not sure how or why but he may yet be useful to us at some point.


Then just before the hammer is dropped on Exile, Kalish FOS'd Tonka for voting Exile and says "we've got all the time in the world" which sounds like a plea for everyone to stop voting Exile.

On page 79:

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got tonkaed wrote:vote exile

it seems like this will be the only real line that can be explored in the time left today.


Oh yea, FOS: gt.

What did you mean? We've got all the time in the world... Even when someone wins, the game isn't over :). Do you know something that we don't?


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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:41 pm

Page 85 is where the ML/kalish thing begins...
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:42 pm

Well, admittedly, that is a fairly good point.
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Postby kalishnikov on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:50 pm

nagerous wrote:Thats not meant as offence to any of those players, its just led to a little bit of delusionment. The case mountainlion against Kalish is relatively sound and might be worth following up but I'm not entirely convinced as I think his recent comments towards Neutrino illustrate those of someone who is in the know as it were. Also, being a subber he had a lot of catching up to do and they are not always on the same wavelength as all the players are and hence thats a possible reason for him not understanding the exile lynch.


About sums it up, when the Exile bandwagon was going on I wasn't convinced of his guilt and FOS'ed gt for a statement he made, NOT for voting Exile. ML took that as me trying to defend Exile. Then 2 posts after mine he (Exile) was hammered so even if I would have chose to vote him, he was already dead.

Pleaser bear in mind, shortly before the Exile bandwagon I had to read something like 80 pages to catch up.
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Postby kalishnikov on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:56 pm

And as for my vote for Neutrino, anyone with Jedi in their role will see her/his statement about Masonic powers as an admittance of being non-Jedi. As far as I'm concerned, if your not Jedi your the enemy until you can prove to me otherwise.
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Postby nagerous on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:58 pm

not all pro-town players are jedis, some are just standard members of the new republic.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:58 pm

kalishnikov wrote:And as for my vote for Neutrino, anyone with Jedi in their role will see her/his statement about Masonic powers as an admittance of being non-Jedi. As far as I'm concerned, if your not Jedi your the enemy until you can prove to me otherwise.


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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:43 pm

VOTE COUNT

Talapus (1) - , MM
Freezie (2) - Nagerus, Tonka
Skittles (1) - Ga7
AK Iceman 2.0 (7) - Wicked, M Lion, Huck, Selin, Jnd, Serbia, Fircoal
Neutrino (3) - Nark, Kalish, Syzygy
Fircoal (1) - Talapus

With 24 alive it takes 13 to lynch.

Wicked, stop hacking into my account to spam about Huck's balls! Shame on you! [-X
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