Red Dead Redemption Game Thread-TOWN WINS

[safariguy5]

So that's another claim. I don't really see anyone jumping out as really scummy and I'm concerned about the deadline. Is it time to consider a no lynch?

unvote

[Commander9]

No he would not gain the mayor vote as that is something we change everyday

This.

Personally, I still don't buy it, but I'll leave it alone for now.

Hmm... Interesting about Tails' claim, though I still don't fully understand it after reading (and rereading) it, but whatever, doesn't seem like scum to me by any means. Damn good fake claim if he is, though lol. So, what now? And Tails, are you gonna take your vote off of Commander? I'd rather not him be inadvertently lynched when the deadline comes. At the risk of being completely scrutinized, I'm going to unvote vote Edoc'sil. He's been playing cleverly so far, and I don't like the way he's been leading things, for the most part.

-Uncle Sully

Hmm, interesting theory, but also don't think would be not pro-town aligned, as all the signs do point that he's pro-town.

So that's another claim. I don't really see anyone jumping out as really scummy and I'm concerned about the deadline. Is it time to consider a no lynch?

unvote

I'm not one for avoiding lynches, but not sure if we can do anything else here. Also, by the looks of it, it's rather possible that 3 of us will be lynched with people not unvoting.

[aage]

While I'm wary of our very very careful mayor I will not revote after unvoteing. Seriously though, now that you have 2 votes you suddenly won't vote anyone? Whats up with that?

[Commander9]

While I'm wary of our very very careful mayor I will not revote after unvoteing. Seriously though, now that you have 2 votes you suddenly won't vote anyone? Whats up with that?

So who do you expect me two vote? Put on a random vote on anyone or vote on two people who have claimed and it seems everyone believes their claims?

[aage]

While I'm wary of our very very careful mayor I will not revote after unvoteing. Seriously though, now that you have 2 votes you suddenly won't vote anyone? Whats up with that?

So who do you expect me two vote? Put on a random vote on anyone or vote on two people who have claimed and it seems everyone believes their claims?

Rolling with a wagon didn't ever get anyone anywhere. It's not about what we think, it's about what you think. And now that you have a bit more responsibility I think it's only fitting that you should be using it for the greater good. Being all lenient to condamn someone for a lynch if it otherwise were up to chance is very scummy imo. It's not what I would have done anyway.

Safari, moving for a no lynch is probably bad. It gains us nothing and we'd all have to unvote for it, and with the actual christmas days coming up I think it isn't unlikely that we'll lose a lot of activity.

On another note, it's been a while since Haggis posted.

[Commander9]

Rolling with a wagon didn't ever get anyone anywhere. It's not about what we think, it's about what you think. And now that you have a bit more responsibility I think it's only fitting that you should be using it for the greater good. Being all lenient to condamn someone for a lynch if it otherwise were up to chance is very scummy imo. It's not what I would have done anyway.

Safari, moving for a no lynch is probably bad. It gains us nothing and we'd all have to unvote for it, and with the actual christmas days coming up I think it isn't unlikely that we'll lose a lot of activity.

On another note, it's been a while since Haggis posted.

I've not been rolling with a bandwagon, but there are no really strong leads or cases here. If say, I'd follow up with my thoughts that TG is lying (and seems that you all disagree) and then he'd come out as innocent, it would look for both me and the town. Me getting 2 votes means that I've got a lot of responsibility and I'm not going to throw them to right and left. As much as I respect you and as much I think you're a great player, I will play the way I think is right to - hurrying up and condemning someone to a lynch without properly thinking it through is something that I tried to avoid.

I do agree, however, with your assessment that time is running out. I still think that Tails is our best lynch, but with the current situation, I will again say that I will not vote for him unless more people agree.

[aage]

No, you don't roll with bandwagons. You don't vote at all. That was my point.

I'd follow up with my thoughts that TG is lying (and seems that you all disagree)

I don't have a reason not to believe him. Still, you didn't believe him and neglected to hammer when you still could. That seems contradictory. What I'm trying to say is, follow your own nose, not ours.

[aage]

According to the wiki of Red Dead Redemption, he's no politician, he's a salesman - if anything, he's role would be of doctor's due to him making the elixirs. Frankly, I don't buy this at all, but won't hammer to see what others think.

This. It's bugging me. I guess you care what we think because there's 3 lynches on a day and we might have hated you for hammering him, but honestly I really would have hammered if I didn't believe him. And even if you don't believe him I would like to know what you really think he is, cause apparently you don't think he's mafia

[Commander9]

No, you don't roll with bandwagons. You don't vote at all. That was my point.

I don't have a reason not to believe him. Still, you didn't believe him and neglected to hammer when you still could. That seems contradictory. What I'm trying to say is, follow your own nose, not ours.

Of course I didn't hammer him - if I would have and her turned out innocent and I'd have hammered him, that would be bad. If everyone else believes him and I'm the only one, perhaps I'm missing. I'm no herk - a person who never makes mistakes and who doesn't consider what other put in front of him. I try to analyze every bit of information I receive and to put that into a picture. What I'm trying to say, I do follow my own nose, but I also look what others put in front of me and since all of you believed him and I was the only one, I put in a possibility that I could be wrong.

This. It's bugging me. I guess you care what we think because there's 3 lynches on a day and we might have hated you for hammering him, but honestly I really would have hammered if I didn't believe him. And even if you don't believe him I would like to know what you really think he is, cause apparently you don't think he's mafia

Well, I guess our gameplay differs here. Well, I honestly don't know who he is, as there are quite a few characters in the game and me picking one would be just guessing. However, I doubt what he is for a reason I've previously stated - his name doesn't match the role for me and to put it simply, I think he's trying to fake himself out of this. Does this answer your question?

[aage]

Of course I didn't hammer him - if I would have and her turned out innocent and I'd have hammered him, that would be bad. If everyone else believes him and I'm the only one, perhaps I'm missing. I'm no herk - a person who never makes mistakes and who doesn't consider what other put in front of him. I try to analyze every bit of information I receive and to put that into a picture. What I'm trying to say, I do follow my own nose, but I also look what others put in front of me and since all of you believed him and I was the only one, I put in a possibility that I could be wrong.

Thanks for not taking the bait.

This. It's bugging me. I guess you care what we think because there's 3 lynches on a day and we might have hated you for hammering him, but honestly I really would have hammered if I didn't believe him. And even if you don't believe him I would like to know what you really think he is, cause apparently you don't think he's mafia

Well, I guess our gameplay differs here. Well, I honestly don't know who he is, as there are quite a few characters in the game and me picking one would be just guessing. However, I doubt what he is for a reason I've previously stated - his name doesn't match the role for me and to put it simply, I think he's trying to fake himself out of this. Does this answer your question?

Yes, the name doesn't match with the role, possibly. I didn't look it up so I can't say much about that. Yes, he might be faking himself out of this. One way to check though (or you're a cop, but assuming you're not there's still one way to check).

The real question is though, if you're not going to put your vote up quickly the accused doesn't have time to defend. You have a very powerful vote hanging nowhere yet and I guess you're going to put it somewhere before the deadline hits. You say you don't believe tailgunner, but you don't vote for him. Why? Because we might disagree. Still, from your point of view it seems like your best lead. I don't think there's going to be much more theories or even hunches before saturday.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

(Haha I wonder if Safnaxus is a fan of Newton's Third Law )

EBWOP. Sorry I don't know why I put Saf's name there.

No he would not gain the mayor vote as that is something we change everyday

Yeah but if I target someone who is elected to mayor, I'll probably get their vote.

-Tails

[Commander9]

Thanks for not taking the bait.

Yes, the name doesn't match with the role, possibly. I didn't look it up so I can't say much about that. Yes, he might be faking himself out of this. One way to check though (or you're a cop, but assuming you're not there's still one way to check).

The real question is though, if you're not going to put your vote up quickly the accused doesn't have time to defend. You have a very powerful vote hanging nowhere yet and I guess you're going to put it somewhere before the deadline hits. You say you don't believe tailgunner, but you don't vote for him. Why? Because we might disagree. Still, from your point of view it seems like your best lead. I don't think there's going to be much more theories or even hunches before saturday.

I have no way to verify whether he's saying truth or whether he's lying. Yes, I am planning to vote tomorrow before leaving the house, as most likely I won't have any other chances to check this and I do no want to vote prematurely. Why I don't vote? Because then the hammer could fall all too quickly and I'm trying to avoid it. Since I got this most responsibility, I'm not going to throw the vote to each place I can. I've already stated whom I consider the most suspicious at this time and more than likely (unless TG has something more to say) that vote will fall there.

To be honest, you're also starting to get me interested...

@ Naxus - can I just vote with one of the votes, or does it only go as a couple?

[edocsil]

Shit, was afraid this was going to happen. Due to the deadline and the conditions set I cannot afford to have any votes on me. Any chance of my lynch will cause the town to lose.

I am John Marston. Town Cop. Victor, you better unvote in a hurry. Will need the doc tonight, I just hope there is a real one.

[Commander9]

Shit, was afraid this was going to happen. Due to the deadline and the conditions set I cannot afford to have any votes on me. Any chance of my lynch will cause the town to lose.

I am John Marston. Town Cop. Victor, you better unvote in a hurry. Will need the doc tonight, I just hope there is a real one.

Well, he just claimed pretty much the main character who has to be in the game. Unless someone has a counter, I think we've got to protect him.

[edocsil]

I hope we get a bit more time, otherwise this is going to go to hell in a hand-basket.

[edocsil]

Thank god, we get more time.

I am going to vote aage, I dislike how he pushed for commander to vote when he has so much power and so little motivation to currently vote for anyone. It would make it easy for him and a scumbuddy to lynch with only 8 players. Some simple logic based around one possible scum lynch verses 3 relatively random lynches could easily steer Commander in the wrong direction.

[Commander9]

Thank god, we get more time.

I am going to vote aage, I dislike how he pushed for commander to vote when he has so much power and so little motivation to currently vote for anyone. It would make it easy for him and a scumbuddy to lynch with only 8 players. Some simple logic based around one possible scum lynch verses 3 relatively random lynches could easily steer Commander in the wrong direction.

That's the exact reason why I said that he's starting to get interest me more and more as well. Naxus, by any chance you could answer my question?

[naxus]

Deadline has been extended to Midnight tuesday night my time.

Vote count(lynch 1)
Com9(1)-Tails
Edoc(1)-victor
Victor(1)-Haggis
Tails(1)-aage
Aage(1)-Edoc

Commander, you may split the votes

Got fastposted as im typing the answer

[Commander9]

Deadline has been extended to Midnight tuesday night my time.

Vote count(lynch 1)
Com9(1)-Tails
Edoc(1)-victor
Victor(1)-Haggis
Tails(1)-aage
Aage(1)-Edoc

Commander, you may split the votes

Got fastposted as im typing the answer

Okay, thank you. Are there any possibilities of extending the deadline? If not, I'll probably leave tonight and will not comeback till Saturday night (maybe I'll get a chance, but I won't risk it).

[Jace22]

I agree with you edoc, and I see how commander sees things(kinda). I mean if I had that double vote, I would probably be as cautious, if not more so than commander, especially since it wouldn't take much for him to lynch someone. ATM, FOS aage for wanting commander to abuse his power. Also, I'm not quite sure I understand how cop seems to fit the main character. After reading the wiki page, it seems to me that he would be a vig. I've never played the game so I could be wrong, but can someone explain the connection

[edocsil]

I agree with you edoc, and I see how commander sees things(kinda). I mean if I had that double vote, I would probably be as cautious, if not more so than commander, especially since it wouldn't take much for him to lynch someone. ATM, FOS aage for wanting commander to abuse his power. Also, I'm not quite sure I understand how cop seems to fit the main character. After reading the wiki page, it seems to me that he would be a vig. I've never played the game so I could be wrong, but can someone explain the connection

All of them have been a little "loose" in their interpretation of the characters. It was to balance the game and in my case keep the cop the hero. No one will counterclaim John, makes the cop claim ironclad.

[Jace22]

I see that now. Thanks

[Commander9]

Well, the deadline has been extended, so we don't have to be in a complete frenzy. I'd like to hear from Haggis, as he's been out for a while, but the two people I'm the most interested in would be aage and tails...

One for a completely unconvincing claim, while the other seems a bit too lynch-happy and too manipulative.

[safariguy5]

A bit of clarification on Marston, he's a bounty hunter bringing his former gang to justice (arrest or kill). There is a morality and a fame meter so I'm assuming this is his doing the "right thing" and arresting them version and would make cop a plausible claim.

[safariguy5]

Also, I'm beginning to wonder if a massclaim is in order here...we've already outed the cop and a doc...