[OFFICIAL] Stack the Deck mafia (4/12)Endgame: MAFIA WIN

[anamainiacks]

anam i didnt agree with all sides, i actually agreed with bos on it being a strange question... asking for specific details as to what she finds scummy is different to just asking why mitch wasnt scummy to her... however upon reading your post you actually did side with both of them so not sure how you find me scummy for it?

I might have misinterpreted your comment, since the phrasing was pretty weird... Thanks for the clarification, though I still maintain that those posts didn't add much value other than giving the appearance that you were active in the game. And no, I sided with bosaa on the question, and acknowledged the overreaction, but concluded that nobody's actions in this whole sequence of events was particularly scummy.

not sure how rose, tim and i are the 3 most suspicious people when there are so many not posting much at all.. it seems scum would be more interested in us killing players who are in here writing than those who dont come here at all... especially after it was mars that made the point about the daytalk and the scum being busy.. but yet the 3 suspects are the ones that have been in here posting

Again, there's a difference between posting token comments, and posting contributing opinions. At that point yours all fell under the former.

That said, I can see that you've since been more active, and are posting opinions clearly of your own, rather than simply repeating information. You've gone down on my scumdar, though not entirely; but I think we have bigger fish to fry. So I shall unvote.

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bosaa raised up some great points about dakky not commenting much about anything other than targeting TWR. I'm also not entirely convinced about his explanation about being away, since he managed to get in 5 posts during joke vote phase when the game started. He could possibly be keeping his vote on TWR since that's one of the other cases with the most traction and votes at the moment - I think there's currently 2 each on TWR and dakky?

For TWR, everyone's comments of the contrast between his current and usual gameplay does make him suspicious.

suffice to say I am reading all posts carefully and when i find something scummy i will pounce on it.

i have been reading this forum throughout, generally ignoring joke votes, until i see something a little suspicious, such as ptlowe lieing about his lack of posting.

You can't only be posting when you find something scummy. Even if you agree with someone, or disagree with what other people are finding scummy, that's worth posting. Seeing who you defend and agree with does provide people with information about you, after all.

I believe PT's reason for not posting, but he still isn't contributing much since coming back. Unless he's still sick. IB has also gone MIA after his scuffle with bosaa...

[the white rose]

@ anam, excellent post, very helpful and well thought out, for me i now read you as my most certain townie.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Streaker, what happens if we reach the deadline without a lynch?

Deadline is getting quite close.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote count

-Endgame422 (0):
-TimWoodbury (0): marashu
-WingCmdr Ginkapo (0):
-bosaardbeitje (1): ptlowe
-madmitch (0):
-Streaker (0): [s]the white rose[/s]
-the white rose (2): dakky21, Endgame422
-Marashu (1): Wing, White Rose
-Iron Butterfly (1): bosaardbeitje
-Dakky(1): Madmitch
-Rizky (0) - Anamainiaks
-PTlowe (1) - White Rose,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline November 12th 05.00 CC Time.

Edited, think its right. Love that nobody has ever voted Anamainiaks as we cant spell it

[anamainiacks]

Hahaha, and even that was spelt wrong

Also, PT unvoted, and bosaa shifted her vote to Dakky, so it should look like this:

(Unofficial) Vote count

-Endgame422 (0):
-TimWoodbury (0): marashu
-WingCmdr Ginkapo (0):
-bosaardbeitje (0): ptlowe
-madmitch (0):
-Streaker (0): the white rose
-the white rose (2): dakky21, Endgame422
-Marashu (1): Wing, White Rose
-Iron Butterfly (0): bosaardbeitje
-Dakky (2): Madmitch, bosaardbeitje
-Rizky (0) - Anamainiaks
-PTlowe (1) - White Rose,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline November 12th 05.00 CC Time.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

On my point on daytalk, I was looking for people who were posting less than expected norm (other people's accounts on rose's lack of posts is what got rose on that list), and as for rizky being around, most of those posts contribute little more than showing that he is still present.

Ah I missed this the first time you raised it. Thats a very good argument. I dont trust you, but that is a good point.


Unvote Vote White Rose

From what I read of Rizky's previous game, he has no idea whats going on and is just a newbie. Its only his second game and in the other game was clearly struggling a bit with the whole thing.

Fp'd by AnaManiac

[Endgame422]

Only 6/12 players voting?
Everyone needs to be voting whoever they find scummiest right now,with deadline looming and no wagons bigger then L-4 we have to pick up the pace or we will be giving scum a free pass for the day/night.
Rose is still my 1st choice.

[madmitch]

You are right EnDS need to pick one and hope for the best, UNVOTE VOTE TWR

[anamainiacks]

As mentioned in my earlier post, I'm still not convinced by dakky.

Vote dakky21, but as things stand, I would be equally fine with a TWR lynch.

[dakky21]

As mentioned in my earlier post, I'm still not convinced by dakky.

Vote dakky21, but as things stand, I would be equally fine with a TWR lynch.

I guess you would be equally fine for anyone's lynch ... that makes you, well, you know what...

[TimWoodbury]

as i said id be leaning in dakkys direction earliear im going to vote dakky simply time is rnning real short and i view twr the more townish of the 2 of you and it seems that it will eb eithe you or twr today or 1/2 the game is mod killed for not voting

[Iron Butterfly]

who wants to join my bw?

It is true that i have not been as active on this game as yet, but that is really because i have not really anything useful to post. I guess I am being a little distracted with my other games, and perhaps should not play so many games at once.

Having said that, it is only D1 and as yet I have no real reads on anyone, what would you have me do? keep switching my vote with lots of joke votes?

suffice to say I am reading all posts carefully and when i find something scummy i will pounce on it.

mitch, that is mad, even for you...which statement of dakky's do you believe? and now you vote him......me thinks you are playing too many mafia games at once

yep, sympathise with you dakky, i have posted way more than you but still found my way onto some players scumlists, i am in both the games you mention too....but don't really want to D1 lynch you again

I stand by my vote on TWR - these 4 posts were made by TWR and nothing new was included, no scum hunting and not even pushing on someone.

Except the bandwagon thing, and I believe that first post says it all.

Typical day one. I was reading through when I read Dakkys post. I have to agree he is spot on. The first game I played with TWR he was super sleuth chasing every lead. But yeah the observation about lack of pushing got me believing.

vote TWR

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

(Unofficial) Vote count

-Endgame422 (0):
-TimWoodbury (0): marashu
-WingCmdr Ginkapo (0):
-bosaardbeitje (0): ptlowe
-madmitch (0):
-Streaker (0): the white rose
-the white rose (5): dakky21, Endgame422, WingCG, Mitch, IB
-Marashu (1): Wing, White Rose
-Iron Butterfly (0): bosaardbeitje
-Dakky (3): Madmitch, bosaardbeitje, AnaManiac, Tim
-Rizky (0) - Anamainiaks
-PTlowe (1) - White Rose,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline November 12th 05.00 CC Time.

With votes going fast keep an eye on the count. White Rose is at L-2, claim please

[Streaker]

Deadline extended to Saturday due to personal reasons. Around 7cc time

[rizky_biznezz]

mitch-- didn't mention a few players but left dakky out in that post because in my slightly earlier post i mentioned that i wasn't sure of dakkys play style so wasn't sure if he was suspicious or not and he hadn't added anything in between to help me one way or the other...

now with a few extra posts dakky still seems focused on white rose and hasn't given much of a read on anyone else.. he hasn't been around much which could mean he is trying to fly under the radar but i would think he would be in here more trying to persuade us of his innocence and push us more with serious arguments if he was being scummy especially seeing as he is high on the hit list.. so now if i vote dakky and he flips scum well yay go us but if he is town we won't learn much from his activity/interactions because there hasn't been much..

the other option at the moment seems white rose-- if i vote rose and its a town flip well at least there will be some interactions and posts that we can use to help us out but now with deadline extension and rose being close to being killed i don't want to do that just yet..

wing-- yes 2nd game...and i do struggle a bit day one... this one especially with so many players not really posting much.

just answering some questions in this post there will be another one soon

[the white rose]

yikes, l-2....thats disappointing. Didn't really want to claim today but it seems that i am being forced to do that.

I have being given the role of tracker, a role that i have not played before. I can choose one person each night to follow if they go anywhere, apparently i will not know what they do, but will know that they have done something and i will know who their target was.

guys, let me live and if i get night protection i could be very useful tomorrow.

[bosaardbeitje]

Besides the many games going on, it looks like Real Life is interfering heavily with our games.

Deadline extended to Saturday due to personal reasons. Around 7cc time

I hope it's nothing too serious and that you are okay!

Sidenote: With the change of deadline I need to inform you that I have people coming over this weekend. This means I won't be around from Friday on. I may check the game from my phone, but won't be able to post long essays.

Rizky raised some good points about what we will learn from the flip. We need to keep the bigger picture in mind. I still can't shake the feeling of Dakky being scum, so I am not willing to change my vote right now. At the moment the 2 main suspects are not really addressing the accusations. TWR is being defensive and Dakky doesn't say much at all, I don't know which behaviour is scummier.

With that last post Rizky looks more Town to me now.

Fpd by TWR with a claim, need to think about that one. Claims tend to screw with my head.

[rizky_biznezz]

tim-- not really making any arguments kind of just scraping by **votes dakky
bos-- not posting and hunting as much as last game but made a few cases and put out some reads **votes dakky
iron butterfly-- very little posting comes back from absence with one quick post siding with dakky and no other reads **votes white rose
pt-- still not much from him.. no cases or reads **suspects white rose
wing-- making cases and seems to be hunting **votes white rose
mars-- doesn't post often but has made some good points and given reads
End-- seems to be questioning ppl... will be looking at more if rose gets killed and ends up town

[rizky_biznezz]

you guys beat me to it... thought i had the forum to myself lol

aw man i hate when they claim it really messed things up last game... ok new thoughts coming

[rizky_biznezz]

when you put it like that wing it does make me rethink....

not sure how rose, tim and i are the 3 most suspicious people when there are so many not posting much at all.. it seems scum would be more interested in us killing players who are in here writing than those who dont come here at all... especially after it was mars that made the point about the daytalk and the scum being busy.. but yet the 3 suspects are the ones that have been in here posting

just want to point out that i have changed my opinion... at first i thought it would be better for scum to get the active players out, the ones who are talking and hunting and likely to find them out but...now im leaning more towards scum wanting us to vote less active players because we wont find out anything when they die which is why i made the post about not wanting to vote out dakky just yet....

however that was before roses claim so now im back to square one... so for now until i hear from you all vote tim based on his lack of reads and cases, and the fact that he is voting for a player who hasnt been around much

[bosaardbeitje]

Okay, my first intuition...

Since we have a Cop and a Bodyguard and perhaps also a Roleblocker and a Vigilante, it looks like we will be able to tell soon enough whether TWR is telling the truth or not.

The Tracker is able to see all of these, right?

[the white rose]

so bos, what roles do you think scum have gone for?

passive chat is one that has been mentioned as a reason why others are not posting as much as usual....a role cop could find our cop or bodyguard,

talking of which if we have a roleblocker he must be careful not to block the bodyguard, who i hope will protect me, thats assuming of course i am believed and not lynched. In fact if i were the town roleblocker i think i would consider not using my role tonight....i mean who could he block? only the role cop surely? who may or may not exist and he would risk blocking cop or bodyguard which would be disastrous

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Unvote.

Its not worth this risk at this point.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

so bos, what roles do you think scum have gone for?

passive chat is one that has been mentioned as a reason why others are not posting as much as usual....a role cop could find our cop or bodyguard,

talking of which if we have a roleblocker he must be careful not to block the bodyguard, who i hope will protect me, thats assuming of course i am believed and not lynched. In fact if i were the town roleblocker i think i would consider not using my role tonight....i mean who could he block? only the role cop surely? who may or may not exist and he would risk blocking cop or bodyguard which would be disastrous

White Rose, roleblocker can block factional kills. Bodyguard will be aware that he/she could protect you. No need to elaborate, let each player, play their own role.

[madmitch]

@ Bos according to what I read a tracker can target one person at night to see who that person targeted so i guess that means he could find out who a cop investigated , so maybe I also will pull back on vote and see what else pops up UNVOTE