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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby / on Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:43 pm

Actually it will leave Nzen and Will alive since he's unlynchable for today, still it may be the best shot we have. Although if either Nzen or will is the rat they can instant-win with one recruit. The odds for FBI winning double by tomorrow so I'm willing to do it if everyone else agrees.
But the deadline is coming fast and we can't do this properly without eight votes.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:55 pm

/ wrote:Actually it will leave Nzen and Will alive since he's unlynchable for today, still it may be the best shot we have. Although if either Nzen or will is the rat they can instant-win with one recruit. The odds for FBI winning double by tomorrow so I'm willing to do it if everyone else agrees.
But the deadline is coming fast and we can't do this properly without eight votes.


Actually scrap the idea, if will is scum then he auto wins. Personally I am suspicous of those voting for CW since he is an easy target but seems quite obviously town to me.

unvote vote fircoal for knowing this yet voting him anyway.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:27 pm

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/ wrote:Actually it will leave Nzen and Will alive since he's unlynchable for today, still it may be the best shot we have. Although if either Nzen or will is the rat they can instant-win with one recruit. The odds for FBI winning double by tomorrow so I'm willing to do it if everyone else agrees.
But the deadline is coming fast and we can't do this properly without eight votes.


Actually scrap the idea, if will is scum then he auto wins. Personally I am suspicous of those voting for CW since he is an easy target but seems quite obviously town to me.

unvote vote fircoal for knowing this yet voting him anyway.

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Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else


My scumdar just died...

They're at 2 VOTES! Not 4 each, but 2! On DAY 1! There is absolutely no reason for either of them to claim until they get more votes. We should pick the scummier one to lynch and not just have them both claim because they both could be lynched because of a die at two Votes. This is really two scummy to let go by. You want to have 2 people out their roles because they both have 2 votes, 46 hours before the deadline. Unvote, Vote: CW

And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?


First of all he's acting scummy, and second of all, we can lose him without losing much. Since there's now a deadline we have to lynch the scummiest, which there are many of but CW on that comment tipped the scale. And at least in the old days, if you can't find someone scummy enough, lynch a noob (or usually they did what CW did just here. XD (Overload on scummy comments and then get bandwagoned)) CW fits both of these categories well in my opinion.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:34 pm

Fircoal wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
/ wrote:Actually it will leave Nzen and Will alive since he's unlynchable for today, still it may be the best shot we have. Although if either Nzen or will is the rat they can instant-win with one recruit. The odds for FBI winning double by tomorrow so I'm willing to do it if everyone else agrees.
But the deadline is coming fast and we can't do this properly without eight votes.


Actually scrap the idea, if will is scum then he auto wins. Personally I am suspicous of those voting for CW since he is an easy target but seems quite obviously town to me.

unvote vote fircoal for knowing this yet voting him anyway.

Did you see this post of mine?
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captainwalrus wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else


My scumdar just died...

They're at 2 VOTES! Not 4 each, but 2! On DAY 1! There is absolutely no reason for either of them to claim until they get more votes. We should pick the scummier one to lynch and not just have them both claim because they both could be lynched because of a die at two Votes. This is really two scummy to let go by. You want to have 2 people out their roles because they both have 2 votes, 46 hours before the deadline. Unvote, Vote: CW

And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?


First of all he's acting scummy, and second of all, we can lose him without losing much. Since there's now a deadline we have to lynch the scummiest, which there are many of but CW on that comment tipped the scale. And at least in the old days, if you can't find someone scummy enough, lynch a noob (or usually they did what CW did just here. XD (Overload on scummy comments and then get bandwagoned)) CW fits both of these categories well in my opinion.


This isn't the old days, play has changed. We now lynch based on scummyness day 1 not on NES or any other new player, lynching newbies really helped the place grow didn't it? :roll:

Yes it's a silly post but scum? The chance of him being scum is tiny, and you know it yet your still voting for him.

I would gladly lynch anyone with a semi-decent reason provided at this stage, but CW is not in that category.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:44 pm

pmchugh wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
/ wrote:Actually it will leave Nzen and Will alive since he's unlynchable for today, still it may be the best shot we have. Although if either Nzen or will is the rat they can instant-win with one recruit. The odds for FBI winning double by tomorrow so I'm willing to do it if everyone else agrees.
But the deadline is coming fast and we can't do this properly without eight votes.


Actually scrap the idea, if will is scum then he auto wins. Personally I am suspicous of those voting for CW since he is an easy target but seems quite obviously town to me.

unvote vote fircoal for knowing this yet voting him anyway.

Did you see this post of mine?
Fircoal wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:Highest votes gets lynched, if a tie, both gets lynched. :twisted:

Shit, really. stroop and illiad, claim or else


My scumdar just died...

They're at 2 VOTES! Not 4 each, but 2! On DAY 1! There is absolutely no reason for either of them to claim until they get more votes. We should pick the scummier one to lynch and not just have them both claim because they both could be lynched because of a die at two Votes. This is really two scummy to let go by. You want to have 2 people out their roles because they both have 2 votes, 46 hours before the deadline. Unvote, Vote: CW

And Nzen, what happened in Princess Bride Mafia that makes you sure, you know what he's doing?


First of all he's acting scummy, and second of all, we can lose him without losing much. Since there's now a deadline we have to lynch the scummiest, which there are many of but CW on that comment tipped the scale. And at least in the old days, if you can't find someone scummy enough, lynch a noob (or usually they did what CW did just here. XD (Overload on scummy comments and then get bandwagoned)) CW fits both of these categories well in my opinion.


This isn't the old days, play has changed. We now lynch based on scummyness day 1 not on NES or any other new player, lynching newbies really helped the place grow didn't it? :roll:

Yes it's a silly post but scum? The chance of him being scum is tiny, and you know it yet your still voting for him.

I would gladly lynch anyone with a semi-decent reason provided at this stage, but CW is not in that category.


I think the thing is the newbies did what CW here did. Constantly say scummy things until they get lynched. And yes the play has changed. I've noticed, that doesn't mean you can't have people trying to keep the old ways. Sometimes the ideas from the old perspective and the new perspective can combine to make a better idea.

Yes, it's just his post(s) have no just been silly but also scummy. Both of them aren't really wanted.

Also I find it odd that you, accused me of being protective of CW
pmchugh wrote:You seem awfully protective of CW, fircoal.
when you're now being more protective of him than me. I think you were trying to push a link between me and him there so that your protection of him wouldn't be as noticed. ;)
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:52 pm

well you did seem very protective at the time, and tbh I might do a lot more now but that's cause i think a townie is going to be lynched.

The fact you me and illy, all experienced players believed him to be a newbie in scum clothing makes me think it very unlikely we are wrong. Meanly what about his suggestion about lynching 5 people? If he is the cult leader what does it matter that others die with him?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:56 pm

pmchugh wrote:well you did seem very protective at the time, and tbh I might do a lot more now but that's cause i think a townie is going to be lynched.

The fact you me and illy, all experienced players believed him to be a newbie in scum clothing makes me think it very unlikely we are wrong. Meanly what about his suggestion about lynching 5 people? If he is the cult leader what does it matter that others die with him?


What if the FBI is a cult of two people? What if the FBI is barely a cult at all? Isn't this coming from the same person who didn't want any speculation on the setup yet? Well really we don't know how the FBI works until we kill one of them. I think Suspect hinted at recruiting powers somewhere, but I don't believe he ever said it was a cult anywhere. So it could still be a mafia, we really don't know.

And like most newbies, you have to take what they say with a grain of salt, I think he suggested the idea because he finds the idea of lynching 5 people, funny and awesome. (OK admittedly I do too :P ) The thing is I'm not sure if he actually thought about the value it would be to the game, just on how cool it'd be.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:07 pm

Ok fircoal answer me these questions:

Do you honestly think CW is FBI?
Can you see no better candidates?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:15 pm

pmchugh wrote:Ok fircoal answer me these questions:

Do you honestly think CW is FBI?
Can you see no better candidates?


Sorta, I think that he may be FBI and there isn't much risk to lynching him.
I can see candidates that are close to him like Illy and Stroop, our useless submariners. (And I don't see either of them doing it that often (or at least from what I've seen/remember.) Also Simon who I don't even know if he knows he's IN this game. x_x
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:25 pm

Fircoal wrote:
pmchugh wrote:Ok fircoal answer me these questions:

Do you honestly think CW is FBI?
Can you see no better candidates?


Sorta, I think that he may be FBI and there isn't much risk to lynching him.
I can see candidates that are close to him like Illy and Stroop, our useless submariners. (And I don't see either of them doing it that often (or at least from what I've seen/remember.) Also Simon who I don't even know if he knows he's IN this game. x_x


simon is alwways like that. You just basically said "I think he is despensible town". Like people said if it is a cult game then today is our best chance of winning, are you going to waste that on cw?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:29 pm

pmchugh wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
pmchugh wrote:Ok fircoal answer me these questions:

Do you honestly think CW is FBI?
Can you see no better candidates?


Sorta, I think that he may be FBI and there isn't much risk to lynching him.
I can see candidates that are close to him like Illy and Stroop, our useless submariners. (And I don't see either of them doing it that often (or at least from what I've seen/remember.) Also Simon who I don't even know if he knows he's IN this game. x_x


simon is alwways like that. You just basically said "I think he is despensible town". Like people said if it is a cult game then today is our best chance of winning, are you going to waste that on cw?


Well really, it's Day 1, we're not scum who is scum. Yes, Illy and Stroop are also scummy, but CW is too. (even though you may not think so) And I thought that Simon was. Suspect should prod him ;) And if you think we should use it on someone else why don't we give all the scummies one vote and see how that'll work out. Though that has the ability to backfire on us. x_x
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Stroop on Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:15 am

Mass-lynching could work, but I'm fairly suspicious of will and we can't get him too...

As for captainwalrus; you can only go so for before your newbie-tokens run out. I think there's a good chance that he's FBI.
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Rat Mafia! Night 1! whack everyone!

Postby Nzen on Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:58 am

I will not prevent you from trying a multi-wack so long as none votes for me, but I will not change my vote either. The worst that can happen is the FBI gang up on an inevitable victim or a submariner votes without reading.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Suspect101 on Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:25 am

The Deadline has been extended 24 hours in lou of the fact that I am moving my brother in law to S.C. I wil be back tomorrow night. I do like the creativity of a mass lynch. I did not expect this and may throw a wrench into this game but I will allow it to see how it plays out, which is another reason I am extending the deadline.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:55 am

Well, a mass lynch could work if we are really certain a few people are not rats. I will claim now, I have the ability to stop people from getting recruited but I can onlyuse it 2 times.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:10 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Well, a mass lynch could work if we are really certain a few people are not rats. I will claim now, I have the ability to stop people from getting recruited but I can onlyuse it 2 times.

So it is a cult game then. Your claim sounds plausible and needed if it is, and if it isn't, then you're lying SCUM! Unvote
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby pmchugh on Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:57 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Well, a mass lynch could work if we are really certain a few people are not rats. I will claim now, I have the ability to stop people from getting recruited but I can onlyuse it 2 times.


Plausible claim, unvote people

I don't think we should mass lynch in case will is cult. I find him quite scummy.

I think we should lynch someone on that terrible wagon. Stroop seems the worst to me. unvote vote stroop
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Stroop on Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:42 pm

unvote - no reason to disbelieve that without a counter-claim. :-k
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby Fircoal on Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:43 pm

Stroop wrote:unvote - no reason to disbelieve that without a counter-claim. :-k


even with a counter-claim. It sounds like a role that could be repeatable in this setup. REpeatable but needed. ;)
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby captainwalrus on Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:45 pm

Umm, now there is a like 4 way tie, I am keeping voting Illiad, cause he is very quiet, and I like my mass lynch idea.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby / on Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:38 pm

Unvote, PMC hasn't really been scummy so far, and there's no point in sacrificing too much if we can't make a proper move. I also find Will to be one of the scummier players.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby william18 on Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:01 pm

Ehh, mind giving any reasons why Im scummy?
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby / on Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:41 pm

Perhaps the fact you are unlynchable naturally causes suspicions against you to rise?
Then again you bandwagoned me at the start of the game then started rambling about mafia hierarchy for the next four or five pages. :lol:
I don't really have any evidence just a few gut feelings, also it's not like I only suspect you over the others here, it's just that we can't take such a huge chance at this point and kill everyone but you.
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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby william18 on Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:58 pm

/ wrote:Perhaps the fact you are unlynchable naturally causes suspicions against you to rise?
Then again you bandwagoned me at the start of the game then started rambling about mafia hierarchy for the next four or five pages. :lol:
I don't really have any evidence just a few gut feelings, also it's not like I only suspect you over the others here, it's just that we can't take such a huge chance at this point and kill everyone but you.

Lol, I don't think a second vote would necessarily be actually bandwagoning, but I understand what you mean.

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Re: Rat Mafia! Night 1! Will proclaimed unwhackable!

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:37 pm

Unvote CW I am leaving for St. Louis at 3am and will be getting back to New Orleans tomorrow night probably about midnight. If I am not too exhausted, I'll reread then and put a vote, but from a quick rereading CW's claim is plausible until anything else is seen. Mass lynching I'm not too fond of just from the fact that if too many "wrong" people are lynched then we are screwed. I would be more in favor of the mass lynch later in the game when we have more evidence as to whom is acting scummy. In regards to tonight, we could always go for someone that isn't posting for some reason without a plausible reason(hence why I'm pointing out again that I haven't made it back to New Orleans yet and won't get there until about midnight tomorrow and may or may not be able to post that time.
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