I'll have some fun while taking a break. First of all, enough of meta-gaming - time to show some of my cards.
I have to say - you're a much better player that I have thought and your manipulation skills are brilliant (I've found out that in each game I've played with you). I've invented the part about gun being stolen, but you didn't buy it, so you may be legit after all
I'm still not convinced you are and your story has lots of flaws, but after more thinking I might be interested in testing your theory out.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Ha, i was afraid this might happen since you claimed gunsmith, but I had hoped it wouldn't happen today ...
I won't have very much time to discuss the following because I've got 2 exams tomorrow, 1 on saturday, 1 tuesday and 1 wednesday, so yeah ...
Anyway, you shouldn't trust backstory so readily, it'd be kind of weird if Mr.Squirrel subverted the role of gunsmith like that by basically telling you with 100% certainty that someone is scum, wouldn't it?
Basically I'm an FBI agent/profiler, and I'm hunting down the head of the mafia. Each night I can verify somebodies psychological profile and see if it matches with any of our criminal profiles.
The gun belongs to my personal enemy, the guy I've been hunting for 13 years, the head of the mafia. I had some weird backstory about how I recently got very close to catching him in a snare, he managed to escape but left his gun, which I took as a trophy of sorts. This is why i was worried this might happen when you claimed gunsmith.
Mr.S you're one cunning bastard, I've got to say
So far i know that ga7 isn't in the mafia I'm hunting and
Jace IS.
What with strike's death I think you should be careful about killing any more investigative roles, especially since my claim is easy to verify. We lynch Jace, if I'm lying Herk can kill me tonight(he claims he can do that right?), or you guys lynch me tomorrow.
Vote Jace
Then, I tried to lure others and see what they thought, but didn't quite work:
Commander9 wrote:Unvote. (for now)
I'm still fairly sure I consider Haggis scummy, but I'll review everything again when I have some time (hopefully tonight).
Okay, to be honest, I'm still not trustful of Haggis (especially combined with everything else), but Jace has always been scummy too. Personally, I had hoped with my "gun was stolen" I'd get a bit different role, but Haggis did set up a few doubts. I'm leaning towards Haggis, but I'll go with Jace if most of you feel that Haggis claim was legit. The thing is, a mistake now would cost a lot and could be a fatal one, so I'd suggest we really talk this out. What's more, Haggis is definitely a great manipulator, so that comes into play too. Thoughts?
I won't throw the last few bits out as I don't think they'd help us and could prove to be extremely helpful later.
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theherkman wrote:We saved you, numbnuts. Way to be grateful. If I was scum, some investigative role would have come out and said so by now. Or some info or something would have come out. You should be a little nicer to your savior...
First of all, language please. Secondly, I'm still not convinced. If you've done so, great, thanks, but I'll only believe if I will survive a little bit longer. For now, we have more important matters to press.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:However Commander I am curious as to your obsession with flores. The best I could come up with your posts were:
That could just be any decent player. If they were scum or town with a good role, they probably wouldn't want to draw to much attention to themselves. Do you have anything more damning?
-Tails
I will not tell anything else bar from what I've said. I just asked for some faith and to keep in my mind what I've said. That's about it.
Thezzaruz wrote:karelpietertje wrote:let me get this straight
we're voting haggis because commander9 claims to have investigated him this night and he owns the gun that was stolen by mafia the night before?
From what Commander has said
(and how fluff/backstory usually work) is sounds like it was stolen from him pre-game.
Yes, Thez got the right idea, except I did change a few things.
nagerous wrote:A U-turn here and this is something I rarely do, however I have reason to believe that Haggis is town. Sure, Haggis has looked scummy the previous few days but jace has also been someone heavily on my scumdar so I vote that we trust Haggis for now and test out his theory on jace. vote jace. If Jace does turn out town then maybe we should then think about lynching haggis.
Basically, I thought of the same thing, although that one night might be fateful.
nagerous wrote:Anyway I have a supicion here that Haggis is playing a stunt as godfather in sacrifcing one of his noob followers for the greater good - just a theory for now.. but it won't harm lynching either.
And about this one - I think death of Jace could provide us with quite a bit of info and if he turns out to be Godfather (which is to whom the gun should belong to), we will know Haggis could be telling the truth.
spiesr wrote:Hmm, when I heard commander mention yesterday that there was one specific gun that, if found, would signify that whomever had is was definitely mafia I thought that it sounded odd the such as thing would be included as it is kind of contrary to the way a gunsmith usually works. My first thought would be that some sort of thief role could end up having said gun. That said however, it could still be totally true that you are scum. Commander, did your role simply say that the mafia had taken that gun, or did it specifically mention that if you found that gun that it meant that you had for sure found a scum?
I've only moved to Briar, because I heard my guns were being used for the wrong purposes and since I'm an 80 year old "one of the last true gunsmiths," I had to go there to fix it. Well, my big thing is that our mod said that if I find that gun,
"(I will tell you if you did) you can be sure he is scum."Jace22 wrote:Sorry I couldn't respond sooner, been studying all morning for an exam tomorrow. So Haggis, you claim an FBI agent(can someone give more details as to what that is) and say you got me as guilty? I'm calling bull on that as I am a townie. So vote haggis for a claiming a convenient role and accusing me of being scum.
That's it?....
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