[Official] NBC Mafia Town Win MVP=trinicardinal

[dazza2008]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

A naive backup doc seems very unlikely to me.

[betiko]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

[MoB Deadly]

Will post today, please don't rush things. We do not want a speed lynch.

[trinicardinal]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

It definitely comes across as lame alright - but yours does too... so i still am doubtful about both of you. Quite frankly betiko your whole claim has been lame from the start so at this point I'm not sure about either of you. the one person I'm sure about is MoB though. btw betiko, remember Rodion was saying we should not rush with votes, I agree with that which is why I used FOS earlier as he suggested. Its a bit scummy that you are not taking that into consideration at all. We are in the same position today as yesterday meaning that if we give mafia a chance to speed lynch town has had it. The same thing applies if we mislynch.

at this point my list would have to read:

Town
MeDeFe - Jack
trinicardinal - Busdriver


not sure but likely town
Leitz - I'm fairly sure about Leitz though.
dazza
chap

scum/ seeming pretty scummy
MoB - this one I know for sure
betiko - an inventor with only 2 inventions and where those names were suspicious to say the least. there are lots of things wrong with this claim.
Epitaph - backup doctor who claims to have protected some one who died and the backup doctor was obviously not roleblocked.

So there are still 3 mafia at least out there? I'm guessing Rodion's list must've been spot on since they killed him and he was becoming a thread to mafia. I say we start from his list!

looks right Leitz - my independent thoughts are coming up with the same possible scum list right now... I have to go back through the llists to confirm details but I definitely need to take a renewed look at Epi.

[betiko]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

It definitely comes across as lame alright - but yours does too... so i still am doubtful about both of you. Quite frankly betiko your whole claim has been lame from the start so at this point I'm not sure about either of you. the one person I'm sure about is MoB though. btw betiko, remember Rodion was saying we should not rush with votes, I agree with that which is why I used FOS earlier as he suggested. Its a bit scummy that you are not taking that into consideration at all. We are in the same position today as yesterday meaning that if we give mafia a chance to speed lynch town has had it. The same thing applies if we mislynch.

at this point my list would have to read:

Town
MeDeFe - Jack
trinicardinal - Busdriver


not sure but likely town
Leitz - I'm fairly sure about Leitz though.
dazza
chap

scum/ seeming pretty scummy
MoB - this one I know for sure
betiko - an inventor with only 2 inventions and where those names were suspicious to say the least. there are lots of things wrong with this claim.
Epitaph - backup doctor who claims to have protected some one who died and the backup doctor was obviously not roleblocked.

So there are still 3 mafia at least out there? I'm guessing Rodion's list must've been spot on since they killed him and he was becoming a thread to mafia. I say we start from his list!

looks right Leitz - my independent thoughts are coming up with the same possible scum list right now... I have to go back through the llists to confirm details but I definitely need to take a renewed look at Epi.

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

[trinicardinal]

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

You are either being deliberately obtuse, skimmed my statement or didn't take the time to understand what I said. We need to take our time and be very careful today. Remember Rodion suggested placing NO votes until everything is discussed. - I am 100% sure about MoB - remember he counter claimed my role AND character and that shows me he is 100% scum. Even with that I am placing FOS just to make sure that nothing is rushed. It is very important for town for that to happen. the only people it would benefit for today to be rushed is mafia. everyone else who posted is paying attention to that fact except you. Epi being at 5 and not getting lyched has 2 possible explanations

1. Epi is scum and his scum mate(s) did not want to hammer
2. Epi is town and all the mafia were already voting for him.

@ dazza - didn't answer you before - yes I know that saf answered that question when MoB asked it and, if you remember, I spoke about several aspects of it then. Situations have changed somewhat and while I suspect his answer still will not be helpful I had to ask again after the new circumstances.

@ Epi - If what you claim is true you probably should be asking saf some questions via pm. (and that's a relatively big if at this point in time.)

I think I'm going to have a re read of D4

[safariguy5]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

Sorry trini, cannot confirm nor deny any messages sent to any players regarding any night actions.

[trinicardinal]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

Sorry trini, cannot confirm nor deny any messages sent to any players regarding any night actions.

figured that would be your answer but I had to ask...

[betiko]

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

You are either being deliberately obtuse, skimmed my statement or didn't take the time to understand what I said. We need to take our time and be very careful today. Remember Rodion suggested placing NO votes until everything is discussed. - I am 100% sure about MoB - remember he counter claimed my role AND character and that shows me he is 100% scum. Even with that I am placing FOS just to make sure that nothing is rushed. It is very important for town for that to happen. the only people it would benefit for today to be rushed is mafia. everyone else who posted is paying attention to that fact except you. Epi being at 5 and not getting lyched has 2 possible explanations

1. Epi is scum and his scum mate(s) did not want to hammer
2. Epi is town and all the mafia were already voting for him.

@ dazza - didn't answer you before - yes I know that saf answered that question when MoB asked it and, if you remember, I spoke about several aspects of it then. Situations have changed somewhat and while I suspect his answer still will not be helpful I had to ask again after the new circumstances.

@ Epi - If what you claim is true you probably should be asking saf some questions via pm. (and that's a relatively big if at this point in time.)

I think I'm going to have a re read of D4

I think the one being obtuse or skimming is you. if you need 5 votes for a lynch, you know you are not mafia and you vote; that leaves you with 4 votes to be casted and only 3 mafia to speed lynch if you make a mistake. therefore, casting a 1st vote DOES NOT endanger town; what we don't want is a second vote on someone being casted too fast and without consulting. Anyone can cast a 1st vote; this will not change anything. casting a second vote IS dangerous. Anyone casting a second vote now is going to look very suspicious; casting a first vote is alright; it just makes a bigger point. unless you think there is a mafia double voter if it exists; but in that case mafia would ve easily won on day 4 because more than 4 people have been voted for; meaning at least 1 town must have been voted by another town at some point and yet mafia didn't win, so they have no double voter!
Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

[trinicardinal]

Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

a) I would really appreciate it if you could avoid being an asshole - that sort of thing is totally uncalled for.
b) in the situation its somewhat like bringing some one to L-2 and saying that we need to be concerned about the person who votes to reach L-1. I am simply saying its better to use the FOS and I consider it a bit scummy that you refuse to do so. Ofc you have also provided a lots of scum tells otherwise so I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for MoB to post his alleged night action before I go further into my cases today.

[betiko]

Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

a) I would really appreciate it if you could avoid being an asshole - that sort of thing is totally uncalled for.
b) in the situation its somewhat like bringing some one to L-2 and saying that we need to be concerned about the person who votes to reach L-1. I am simply saying its better to use the FOS and I consider it a bit scummy that you refuse to do so. Ofc you have also provided a lots of scum tells otherwise so I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for MoB to post his alleged night action before I go further into my cases today.

Well apparently i had to put it this way otherwise you wouldn't understand and seems like you still don't understand.
I VOTED TO FISH FOR A SECOND VOTE AND FISH FOR SCUMTELLS, do you get it now??
Also as I said, if you count right a first vote IS NOT PUTTING TOWN IN DANGER, we have killed 1 mafia and THERE ARE 3 out there, NOT 4!!!

if you count 3mafias as 1 voter bringing to L-1 and my vote as a L-2; do you think any player here, being town, would be stupid enough to hammer after seeing 3 guys speeding to lynch???

Any second vote on a player is really dangerous and scummy as hell or a bad play; Now can you admit that casting a first vote is not dangerous in any way or you are still going to deny it??? Or is it because I'm voting VS epi and with his bad scum move you are now trying to go in another direction? You did put him on your suspects, but maybe because you realized you can't save him and it's better to do that to save yourself and your 3rd scum buddy.
"rodion said this and that". I agree with the logic in all what rodion said given his knowledge and what had been going on from his point of view; but some stuff where not completely detailed, like casting a first vote IS NOT going to provoke a speed lynch!! You are either trying to look whiter than white or just too proud to admit I am right.

[trinicardinal]

Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

a) I would really appreciate it if you could avoid being an asshole - that sort of thing is totally uncalled for.
b) in the situation its somewhat like bringing some one to L-2 and saying that we need to be concerned about the person who votes to reach L-1. I am simply saying its better to use the FOS and I consider it a bit scummy that you refuse to do so. Ofc you have also provided a lots of scum tells otherwise so I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for MoB to post his alleged night action before I go further into my cases today.

Well apparently i had to put it this way otherwise you wouldn't understand and seems like you still don't understand.
I VOTED TO FISH FOR A SECOND VOTE AND FISH FOR SCUMTELLS, do you get it now??
Also as I said, if you count right a first vote IS NOT PUTTING TOWN IN DANGER, we have killed 1 mafia and THERE ARE 3 out there, NOT 4!!!

if you count 3mafias as 1 voter bringing to L-1 and my vote as a L-2; do you think any player here, being town, would be stupid enough to hammer after seeing 3 guys speeding to lynch???

Any second vote on a player is really dangerous and scummy as hell or a bad play; Now can you admit that casting a first vote is not dangerous in any way or you are still going to deny it??? Or is it because I'm voting VS epi and with his bad scum move you are now trying to go in another direction? You did put him on your suspects, but maybe because you realized you can't save him and it's better to do that to save yourself and your 3rd scum buddy.
"rodion said this and that". I agree with the logic in all what rodion said given his knowledge and what had been going on from his point of view; but some stuff where not completely detailed, like casting a first vote IS NOT going to provoke a speed lynch!! You are either trying to look whiter than white or just too proud to admit I am right.

Oh good grief. take a blood pressure tablet already. I've brought out enough reasons in D4 to show why you are scummy and the same thing for MoB. like I said I am waiting to hear properly from MoB before I continue fully with my cases. During that time frame I am going to be rereading the info especially from D4. MoB is definitely scum. you are almost certainly scum. It is quite likely that Epi is also scum based on what happened N4 and I have to pay particular attention to him.

FACT: Mob or myself is scum - I'll bring the cases to show you why MoB is the scum
FACT: either betiko or Epi are scum OR both are scum - I'll bring the cases against betiko and what I can get against Epi as well. he certainly made a head start on that though...lol

[betiko]

Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

a) I would really appreciate it if you could avoid being an asshole - that sort of thing is totally uncalled for.
b) in the situation its somewhat like bringing some one to L-2 and saying that we need to be concerned about the person who votes to reach L-1. I am simply saying its better to use the FOS and I consider it a bit scummy that you refuse to do so. Ofc you have also provided a lots of scum tells otherwise so I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for MoB to post his alleged night action before I go further into my cases today.

Well apparently i had to put it this way otherwise you wouldn't understand and seems like you still don't understand.
I VOTED TO FISH FOR A SECOND VOTE AND FISH FOR SCUMTELLS, do you get it now??
Also as I said, if you count right a first vote IS NOT PUTTING TOWN IN DANGER, we have killed 1 mafia and THERE ARE 3 out there, NOT 4!!!

if you count 3mafias as 1 voter bringing to L-1 and my vote as a L-2; do you think any player here, being town, would be stupid enough to hammer after seeing 3 guys speeding to lynch???

Any second vote on a player is really dangerous and scummy as hell or a bad play; Now can you admit that casting a first vote is not dangerous in any way or you are still going to deny it??? Or is it because I'm voting VS epi and with his bad scum move you are now trying to go in another direction? You did put him on your suspects, but maybe because you realized you can't save him and it's better to do that to save yourself and your 3rd scum buddy.
"rodion said this and that". I agree with the logic in all what rodion said given his knowledge and what had been going on from his point of view; but some stuff where not completely detailed, like casting a first vote IS NOT going to provoke a speed lynch!! You are either trying to look whiter than white or just too proud to admit I am right.

Oh good grief. take a blood pressure tablet already. I've brought out enough reasons in D4 to show why you are scummy and the same thing for MoB. like I said I am waiting to hear properly from MoB before I continue fully with my cases. During that time frame I am going to be rereading the info especially from D4. MoB is definitely scum. you are almost certainly scum. It is quite likely that Epi is also scum based on what happened N4 and I have to pay particular attention to him.

FACT: Mob or myself is scum - I'll bring the cases to show you why MoB is the scum
FACT: either betiko or Epi are scum OR both are scum - I'll bring the cases against betiko and what I can get against Epi as well. he certainly made a head start on that though...lol

I'll put that on your pride then!

and I agree with your facts; see, it's simple! I am 80/20 on you being the fake bus driver and 100% on epi being scum simple as that. And I do want to hear from mob.
Even if you are telling crap for certain things, i still give you a little more credit than epi because igor is not twice here in the game, this is sure and certain.

[Epitaph1]

First, betiko, simmer down, dude.

Re: trini's last question directed at me:

Without quoting my original pm, I was given the role of the backup doctor. When Swifte died, I wasn't given any notification that I had been activated or anything like that. Saf didn't even respond to confirm that he received my night action last night. But he didn't send me a pm to tell me to send it in, which, given the length of the night, I think he would have done if he was waiting for me to send it in. It seems weird to have two alterations of a standard character (Doctor + backup + naive), but I'm not the mod.

I'll send him a pm to get a clarification on things, but seeing how he has responded to our pleas about notifying the roleblocked, I seriously doubt my request will bear fruit.

[trinicardinal]

First, betiko, simmer down, dude.

Re: trini's last question directed at me:

Without quoting my original pm, I was given the role of the backup doctor. When Swifte died, I wasn't given any notification that I had been activated or anything like that. Saf didn't even respond to confirm that he received my night action last night. But he didn't send me a pm to tell me to send it in, which, given the length of the night, I think he would have done if he was waiting for me to send it in. It seems weird to have two alterations of a standard character (Doctor + backup + naive), but I'm not the mod.

I'll send him a pm to get a clarification on things, but seeing how he has responded to our pleas about notifying the roleblocked, I seriously doubt my request will bear fruit.

I will state this much - while he has not responded to questions in public he has always responded to questions that I have sent him via pm. Thus I will be very surprised if he does not respond to your question. did he take long to respond confirming your action on N3? How did you know that you were activated btw given that he did not pm you?

[betiko]

First, betiko, simmer down, dude.

Re: trini's last question directed at me:

Without quoting my original pm, I was given the role of the backup doctor. When Swifte died, I wasn't given any notification that I had been activated or anything like that. Saf didn't even respond to confirm that he received my night action last night. But he didn't send me a pm to tell me to send it in, which, given the length of the night, I think he would have done if he was waiting for me to send it in. It seems weird to have two alterations of a standard character (Doctor + backup + naive), but I'm not the mod.

I'll send him a pm to get a clarification on things, but seeing how he has responded to our pleas about notifying the roleblocked, I seriously doubt my request will bear fruit.

what a coincidence right? maybe saf forgot to press on the activation button offor your powers, you are going to send him an imaginary pm; he'll "fix" this and you will live one more night to roleblock the bus again. Yes, i think it's you.

[Leitz]

I'd like to hear from MoB Deadly now. If you are the busdriver, who did you swap last night and why?

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

Epitaph(1)- betiko
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[MoB Deadly]

Sorry for the Delay.

I tried switching Rodi and Trini (since he is the only one I know is 100% scum)

I was roleblocked, and obviously notified of my roleblock.

1. The scene makes it clear that I was roleblocked. Yes, it was clear I was roleblocked.
2. The scene also makes it clear that the roleblock is made part of the scene where it involves the busdriver - therefore MoB could not have been roleblocked on N3. That's further proof that MoB was lying. False. Ill type the explanation below.
3. Betiko - what was your night action? - you were supposed to take care of Epitaph
4. Epi - same question - you were supposed to cover Rodion. True, I think this confirms Epi is scum, just as I thought yesterday.
5. I'd love to vote immediately for MoB but I am holding to Rodion's request that we discuss everything fully - FOS MoB
6. I have to return Epitaph to my suspect list - he may well be mafia He is scum.
7. thing is MoB is also mafia which makes betiko a strong possibility as well. False and False
8. MeDeFe - what input do you have for us?

I'll get to more in a while

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Night 3:
I was roleblocked.

I attempted to switch Jim and MeDeFe.
Reason for Jim: Cop, most likely no Watcher
Reasons for MeDeFe: gut feeling he is scum, and/or get lucky again and I can clear him.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

About #2. On N3 I switched Jim and MeDeFe. Even if I had not been roleblocked, I would not of effected the scene anyway, as the mafia killed Strike on N3. So there was no reason to put me in the scene. I am clearly in the scene this time, because I attempted to switch Rodion, and I got roleblocked, therefore he still died.

[MoB Deadly]

Oh from Rodions plan and Epi's counter claim of Igor, I am pretty sure we have an easy lynch here guys. Epi is definitely scum, and I am ready to vote him. And also for everyone to note.... I called this yesterday, and trini was very reluctant and never voted him at all. he keeps disguising his votes on me because he doesn't know which other mafia buddies have been sniffed out by the town yet, even though he knows that the town is stupid enough to risk it 50/50 by lynching one of the claimed bus drivers.

Vote Count

Mob(2)- dazza
Epitaph(4)-betiko, leitz, MoB, PCM,
betiko(3)- epitaph, jim, trini


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Just noting how Trini and Dazza are not voting for Epitaph1, who is almost guaranteed to be mafia based on chap's lists.

Directed more at Trini, I am not sure about Dazza at this point.

Just noting how Trini and Dazza are not voting for Epitaph1, who is almost guaranteed to be mafia based on chap's lists.

And so have I - Epitaph is "guaranteed" only if several claims that have come out are true - if any one is a fakeclaim then Epitaph is not guaranteed. I've gone through this before but you keep ignoring it - Can't say I'm surprised though.

I think its a weak argument. Back-up doctors are normally called nurses anyway.

[Epitaph1]

I checked with Saf and I was able to start using my ability once Swifte was killed. At the time, I didn't think I needed to check with him about when it started because I just assumed that's how my role worked.

He didn't send me a confirmation pm for either of my night actions so far. But I don't think that's a problem. If he didn't receive my night action, I'm sure he would have pm'd me or at the least not started the day until he received something. I don't know who was the hold up this past night or if it was just saf's busy RL, but he wasn't waiting on me.

About the scene and roleblocking: this is the first scene where it's been clear which character's been roleblocked, no? I don't think the entrance of the busdriver in the most recent scene proves that the busdriver wasn't roleblocked the night before. I still think MoB is lying, but trini's point about the busdriver appearing in this scene but not the last doesn't hold water.

I might as well put this on the record too: Vote betiko

[Leitz]

I might as well put this on the record too: Vote betiko

Why if I may ask?

[Epitaph1]

I might as well put this on the record too: Vote betiko

Why if I may ask?

He counterclaimed me for one.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

Epitaph(1)- betiko
betiko(1)- Epitaph
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[chapcrap]

I don't see much discussion going on...

For the night actions that have been alleged to have been made:

• Epitaph protected Rodion
• betiko did nothing because he had no inventions left
• trini switched Rodion and betiko
• MoB switched Rodion and trini
• obviously someone got roleblocked (animal's skeleton, AKA busdriver)
• MeDeFe, Leitz, dazza, you don't have night actions do you?
• I had no night action

Ok, from the scene:

Scene

After the events of the day, many citizens were eager to begin the new day. The discussions had led to many suspicions, an a few of them were sure to be realized.

A man noticed some suspicious looking creatures in an alleyway.

"You there, what do you think you're doing?" He cried, walking up to one of them.

As the creature turned around, the man recognized who he was.

"You! You're one of the ones responsible for all these deaths!"

However, the man failed to notice that the other creature had sneaked behind him. As the man turned around to leave, the other creature smacked the man in the face with a frying pan.

As the man's vision slowly faded to black he was able to make out a third creature talking nonstop at a what looked like an animal's skeleton. The skeleton seemed to be annoyed, but was unable to get by the chattering creature.

Rodion, The Mayor, Town Cop has been killed!

It is now Day 5! With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

From the information we have at hand, I see no way that Epi can be telling the truth. Am I wrong about this? Epi was clearly not the one who was roleblocked. Either MoB or trini was roleblocked. So, if he truly did try to save Rodion, then it seems a little weird that Rodion died. FOS Epitaph

For some reason, Rodion says that I am completely cleared because of this. I don't really follow the logic, but I agree with the result.

PCM flips godfather

What we know:

Medefe is cleared as Jack.

What we should do:

Trini swaps me with one of the following: MoB, Betiko, Epitaph, Leitz, Chap, Dazza, Medefe (some choices are better than others, but I don’t want to talk too much about it so mafia can’t predict what you’ll do).

MoB swaps me with one of the following: Trini, Betiko, Epitaph, Leitz, Chap, Dazza, Medefe (some choices are better than others, but I don’t want to talk too much about it so mafia can’t predict what you’ll do).

Epitaph protects me (I’ll need 2 layers of protection because the roleblocker is still alive).
If Betiko truly is an inventor and has other powers, he can kill or roleblock Epitaph (killing is the better option).

If I die:

If the scene suggests that I was killed accidentally (like Swifte), bad luck for us. If it doesn’t, the most likely explanation is that our busdriver (be it Trini or MoB) was roleblocked and Epitaph lied about being a (backup) doctor. In that case, Epitaph is 2nd mafia and Chap is cleared. 3rd mafia is either Trini or MoB and 4th mafia is either Betiko, Leitz or Dazza. If you end up thinking MoB is the 3rd mafia, Betiko is probably the 4th.

Do not cast a single vote on D5 before everything is thoroughly discussed. If you want to tally opinions on who should be lynched, use FOS instead.
Town should give more weight to Medefe’s opinions.

@everyone: is there any concern to the aforementioned plan? Anything I might have overlooked? Speak now!

@Safari: sorry, but I have to ask this. PCM is not even trying to defend himself. Is there any chance you can modkill him (without ending the day) for purposefully playing against his own winning condition (throwing the game)?

As far as who may also be scum along with Epitaph, I think we have the following options (in no particular order):

1. MoB and betiko
2. trini and betiko
3. MoB and dazza
4. Mob and Leitz
5. trini and dazza
6. trini and Leitz

Here is the previous vote count for Epi

Epitaph(5)-betiko, leitz, MoB, PCM, chap

Those not voting for him were Rodion, MeDeFe, trini, and dazza.

MeDeFe, it has been claimed by Leitz that he is linked to you. You know nothing of this linkage, is that correct? That means that we can not officially clear Leitz, but I am inclined to believe him. What are your thoughts, MeDeFe?

Mod, can we have a mass prod now that the weekend is over?