Buizel Mafia *Game Over*

[lalaland]

For Edocsil to put himself on the line by saying that he is something other than a pikachu is a VERY risky move. Therefore I believe his claim.. if he was scum then he could have claimed something else not as weird/unique.

Or, that's what he wants you to think, and it's WIFOM.

I forget, how much mafia experience does edocsil have?

[ga7]

Just reread, I need to sort out the posts of interest but seven important points:

-Stop claiming early, the Colton thing was downright silly and the Edoscil case is heading the same way.
-That is mostly the fault of bandwagonners, now might be a good time to start checking the voting records.
-Trying to play the theme in a Fircoal game is by essence completely nonsensical. There is no way the theme is so clear cut as this. This is the mod that makes doctors kill, busdrivers scum, and even if the Buizels were mafia (I don't even remember reading that before, then again I skipped the first post and Fir probably made my role in 30 seconds ) that doesn't mean a Pikachu wouldn't be a SK for instance. That's even likely. So assuming anything about the theme can bite town in the ass quite quickly.
-Freezie, I know you're rusty and you even had points in your lynch calls but stop being so bloodthirsty. You have a bunch of groupies following your every move and that is perhaps the scummiest thing so far. Anyway, this is day 1 ffs, everyone should stop "putting pressure" and forcing everyone to claim in a row.
-I dislike Victor's claim being in several parts, but night will tell. Benefit of the doubt with a doc claim etc...
-Colton on the other hand... Vig is a lame fake claim, but considering it's Colton... I'd be up for lynching him in doubt. More harm than wrong, this one can do
-I love quiche.

[edocsil]

For Edocsil to put himself on the line by saying that he is something other than a pikachu is a VERY risky move. Therefore I believe his claim.. if he was scum then he could have claimed something else not as weird/unique.

Or, that's what he wants you to think, and it's WIFOM.

I forget, how much mafia experience does edocsil have?

I just just finished my fourth game. I have only survived until D2 twice....

[ga7]

Chu, can you prod/replace Darkfiresomething? He hasn't posted as far as I see.

Answer to #1:

^_^_^_^_^_^Non Villana 4 *Game Over* MAFIA WIN!^_^_^_^_^_^

Now I have to think of a silleh and meaningless prize to give out! D:

An autograph from me?

I like this idea. DO ETTTTTTT!

Here you go

unvote vote ga7- There is something not right with your play, you are usually someone leading from the front where as in this game you seem to be sitting back and letting other people stir up trouble. Only time you really stepped in was when you were trying get sullys wagon to claim point even though you were against his votes before.

Frankly I haven't been as active as I like because I've been busy, but my wife abandoned me for the weekend so I'll have more time for mafia I don't regret adding to the Sully wagon though, he would have been a good day 1 lynch if he hadn't claimed doc. Then again you may remember who fakeclaimed doc a lot, someone who Sully reminds me a lot of so far Again, night will tell.

Right now I only trust Myukou but that doesn't help However what we do know is not all townies are Pikachu. It's fair to say Edoscil is town, I have a bit more mixed feelings about AceArtemis even though he confirmed that fact, but unless it's a smart WIFOM there's no reason he would confirm that unless Edoscil was scum with him, which is highly doubtful at this point. That also means Freezie has been almost completely wrong so far so if he still has town groupies, stop following him mindlessly please... About Freezie, he's always been better as scum than town but to pull off so many cases I doubt he'd f*ck with us so much in day 1. So I agree more with Pmc's view (which doesn't mean Pmc is town as he has done nothing but slander my integrity as a good little townie ).

What I'm worried about now is the bunch of wagonners like Cena, Lalaland, and the ones who have been more low-profile like Duday and a bit Saf. However I don't feel it will be a good thing to make another random wagon with big odds of pressuring another townie today.
I'm still on the fence with Colton. He claimed (not clearly) vig, and assuming he didn't just fakeclaim being a Pikachu, he could as well be a SK. It's hard to tell whether there'd be scum + SK or scum + vig in this game, there might even be all 3 since it's the Chu and Chu nights are bloody, but either way I think even if he's in fact town there's no big disadvantage in losing a vig that could kill townies with almost the same certainty as scum would every night. I don't want to take chances on this.

Unvote Vote Colton

[freezie]

I honestly didn't want edoscil to claim, I was telling him I had an eye on him, and wanted to lay his case to rest till much later. he forced me to say it, then auto-claimed right after.

But yes, I do realise I need to shut up, because it seems if I even call a single name, I get that person to claimed right off the bat...-.- Guess I am too scary.

As far as beeing bloodthirsty..people need to not make stupid mistake, especially on day one..-.-

[Fircoal]

Should I provide helpful links? :3

[edocsil]

I honestly didn't want edoscil to claim, I was telling him I had an eye on him, and wanted to lay his case to rest till much later. he forced me to say it, then auto-claimed right after.

But yes, I do realise I need to shut up, because it seems if I even call a single name, I get that person to claimed right off the bat...-.- Guess I am too scary.

As far as beeing bloodthirsty..people need to not make stupid mistake, especially on day one..-.-

Honestly do you have any idea what role I have? No, you don't. I gave enough detail to get you off my case and to hopefully prevent some suspicious townie from NKing me. Important when there is a possible SK. The bandwagon would have followed and I would have had to claim my role in its entirety to appease the masses. I do not believe it was a mistake to partially claim early, because it keeps my role hidden.

We got a lot of info today, IDK if more D1 bandwagons will help us, we are really jumping at straws. Might be no lynch time.

The other option people seem to be interested in is Colton, and I feel that would be better to investigate him rather then to kill him.

My $.02

[safariguy5]

I would have hoped you didn't claim anything at all edocsil because we already had victor the doc to worry about at night and your partial claim means somebody probably has to try and watch for you tonight too. Just lining up more targets for the mafia even if nobody really knows what you are.

[ga7]

Well in the current situation Victor, provided he's really a doc, should protect Edoscil and another protective role could protect Victor, if there's one. It's not freaking awful, but yeah we do need to avoid uncovering more townies.
IMO Colton is not worth an investigation simply because of his ability, but well...

[cena-rules]

At this moment in time, We have two choices

1) No lynch and see what night uncovers

2) press for more information

I don't like either. Nights are always mental in Fircoal games and we may lose many-a townines, however our pressing has revealed too many townies as it is

Tis a conflict

[Victor Sullivan]

At this moment in time, We have two choices

1) No lynch and see what night uncovers

2) press for more information

I don't like either. Nights are always mental in Fircoal games and we may lose many-a townines, however our pressing has revealed too many townies as it is

Tis a conflict

Too true. At this point, I'm convinced we should see how things play out at night. The results of Night 1 could easily give us clues as to who is whom, especially since we have a lot of role claims (and not Vanilla Townie role claims). I suggest we unvote and vote no lynch. (This would prolly also provide the quickest end to Day 1)

-Dr. Sully

[duday53]

At this moment in time, We have two choices

1) No lynch and see what night uncovers

2) press for more information

I don't like either. Nights are always mental in Fircoal games and we may lose many-a townines, however our pressing has revealed too many townies as it is

Tis a conflict

Too true. At this point, I'm convinced we should see how things play out at night. The results of Night 1 could easily give us clues as to who is whom, especially since we have a lot of role claims (and not Vanilla Townie role claims). I suggest we unvote and vote no lynch. (This would prolly also provide the quickest end to Day 1)

-Dr. Sully

What does WIFOM mean?

And I am not quite understanding why you want to go to night. You claimed doc right? Which makes you the #1 target for the night. I think that with so many claims, we would be better off taking an educated guess at who is scum and lynching them today. By doing so, we gain info heading into night. And if we hit scum its a bonus.

[pmchugh]

Personally I think it comes down to risky lynch vs no-lynch day 1. And no lynch sucks as an option, escpicially in a game modded by fircoal where you expect a good few kills each night. However we don't really want any more claims, out of those that have claimed colton does seem to have the weakest claim as he could easily be an SK rather than a vig. I am inclined to agree with frenchie for now at least.

unvote vote colton

[edocsil]

So what? Just lynch him? He won't change his claim. I don't see what we are going to gain from this.

[Fircoal]

Should I provide helpful links? :3

[colton24]

*Sigh*
Full claim.
I am Kaiyu the pikachu. I believe I am a tough pikachu, but statistics shot I ain't. This doesn't stop me from abusing who I think is an eval buziel each night

[edocsil]

Should I provide helpful links? :3

I never turn down help, just no pokeporn.....

[freezie]

Unvote

Vote: Colton

I would say something..But I might end up having some claim from what I say so..Yea, am shutting up

[colton24]

Wow, ok let's go ahead and lynch someone with nobody counter-claiming and no scumtells or behavoir. Sure thing scum freezie let's do that!

[freezie]

Wow, ok let's go ahead and lynch someone with nobody counter-claiming and no scumtells or behavoir. Sure thing scum freezie let's do that!

Cause you expected someone to counter-claim your role?

[colton24]

No because if nobody counter-claims that role is confrimed. But let's not try for a cop to investigate

[Fircoal]

Should I provide helpful links? :3

I never turn down help, just no pokeporn.....

http://pikachu-battle.forumotion.net/forum.htm

[freezie]

No because if nobody counter-claims that role is confrimed. But let's not try for a cop to investigate

That's definitly not always the case. And if I was a vig on my own, at this point of the game with so many claims going, I would definitly shut up. I can still kill you in the night.

[freezie]

EBWOP

I COULD still kill you in the night.

[colton24]

Yeah well, I'd rather a cop check me then the town be so hasty. There are other suspects, but freezie you are pushing VERY hard for my lynch