Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

[FloresDelMal]

Well I don't personally see it as a lynchable offense. I don't think it should be. I found that the fact you jumped on it where you did struck me as scummy. I will however agree with you that it is impossible to tell what he editted but I do not like building cases on speculative evidence alone. I like to see actual words they said and we can prove they said and I like to see grout between the tiles.

if we are going to be so lax about this, why not erase this rule which seems to have been used and respected for years, since everyone thinks that is useless; lets just ignore it and edit to our hearts content, we could start to edit for comment the weather, amazon bargains, creepy crimes or review films, whatever, i mean seriously who cares...seems that no one takes anything serious anymore, whats next? we will start to quote role pm's? good grief, my vote stays where it is, til something evidently bigger and better pop up.

[strike wolf]

I should be more clear. Ifg its a repeat offense by all means vote him. If there was something else he said scummy id probably be voting him. The votes in this scenario seemed premature to me at least from the standpoint of should it develop into a fulll blown wagon and edocs behavior struck me as scummier.

[Fircoal]

Editting is a lynchable crime. However you forget that he is a noob. And because of this it isn't the crime that the bandwagoners make it out to be. If someone edits in their first or second game it SHOULDN'T be a big deal. People have to get to know the rules and sometimes noobs forget about them. If this wasn't a new guy I'd be up with you guys on him. However he is new so it makes Edoc look more scummy to me.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I pretty much agree with Fircoal on this one. He is a noob, and obviously he didn't read too much into the rules. But really I think perhaps this should be left to the mod. That's what mod-kills and blacklists are for. But I do understand where flores and edoc are coming from, it is a serious offense. I think it's aage's call. I do think with flores and edoc jumping on him over it, he won't do it in the future, though, so maybe lesson learned.

-Tails

[edocsil]

I will unvote. The largest purpose of the vote was to prevent editing in the future, that has been accomplished I believe.

[edocsil]

I will unvote. The largest purpose of the vote was to prevent editing in the future, that has been accomplished I believe.

EBWOP bold....

[FloresDelMal]

I pretty much agree with Fircoal on this one. He is a noob, and obviously he didn't read too much into the rules. But really I think perhaps this should be left to the mod. That's what mod-kills and blacklists are for. But I do understand where flores and edoc are coming from, it is a serious offense. I think it's aage's call. I do think with flores and edoc jumping on him over it, he won't do it in the future, though, so maybe lesson learned.

-Tails

you big teddy bear you *sighs/ ill unvote him against my better judgement, but we should not forget this incident, if any other slip up or scum tell adds to this offense, i think we could be in front of a serious candidate for a lynch.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

you big teddy bear you *sighs/ ill unvote him against my better judgement, but we should not forget this incident, if any other slip up or scum tell adds to this offense, i think we could be in front of a serious candidate for a lynch.

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

[freezie]

I pretty much agree with Fircoal on this one. He is a noob, and obviously he didn't read too much into the rules. But really I think perhaps this should be left to the mod. That's what mod-kills and blacklists are for. But I do understand where flores and edoc are coming from, it is a serious offense. I think it's aage's call. I do think with flores and edoc jumping on him over it, he won't do it in the future, though, so maybe lesson learned.

-Tails

you big teddy bear you *sighs/ ill unvote him against my better judgement, but we should not forget this incident, if any other slip up or scum tell adds to this offense, i think we could be in front of a serious candidate for a lynch.

That's what everyone has been telling, mom, but it seems you always have the l;ast word anyway à

OMFG HE EDITED BLACKLIST TAKE HIM OUT KILL HIM. That's what the mod is there for, if he repeats it and do nothing, then it's the player case. But your call, mom.

[FloresDelMal]

I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

can you elaborate on this pwetty pwease?

[00iCon]

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

^what she said

[Fircoal]

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

that's what she said

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

can you elaborate on this pwetty pwease?

For you flores, certainly...

But for now, I want to vote 00icon.

It was obvious Commander was being flippant with the smiley, or you deliberately misinterpreted him.

-Tails

From page 11. Pretty meh but yeah...

-Tails

[00iCon]

K thanks.
who's been away the longest? i want to vote someone.

[FloresDelMal]

K thanks.
who's been away the longest? i want to vote someone.

if you want to know who is submarining, i advice you to actually read the thread skimming is a scum tell btw, you might want to try to avoid it.

Thanks tails, ill go back and re-read the smiley business

[Flow520]

K thanks.
who's been away the longest? i want to vote someone.

if you want to know who is submarining, i advice you to actually read the thread skimming is a scum tell btw, you might want to try to avoid it.

Thanks tails, ill go back and re-read the smiley business

Haha, funny how anything said can be twited into a profession of scuminess

[Commander9]

Personally, while I do dislike the way 00coin has played so far, I think it might be more about him being not experienced enough. If this will happen again, then it will be a bit different story. (That's why I used my FoS on him).

Upon re-reading the whole thing, I don't think TG is in the same wagon, but Sax and Edoc were just a bit too quick. Edoc, especially, whom I rate as one of the best players here, is definitely better than this, so vote Edoc.

[strike wolf]

I don't like the fact that edoc was so quick to place his vote on icon when the wagon started for what he originally stated the reasoning as we don't know what he edited ans later took it back saying he was just making a point about editting. The votes above you served that purpose. So saying that sounds like bs to me. vote edoc

On the other hand icon is very much starting to sound like a new scum. sfos icon

[aage]

Vote Count

1. Tailgunner
2. Edoc 6 ( xuereb, VioIet, Chu, Freezie, Commander9, Strike Wolf)
3. VioIet
4. Haggis
5. Freezie
6. Strike Wolf
7. TheSaxlad
8. Commander9
9. 00iCon 2 (tails, Saxlad)
10. Flow520
11. xuereb 1 (flow)
12. /
13. Chu 1 (00iCon)
14. Flores 1 (/)

14 alive, 8 to lynch.

Edoc' is at L-2. Thus the red.

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Finally done with the holidays. The Bandwagons do seem suspect, but then again it is day one. Firstly, 00icon, I agree that rule infractions are a matter for the mod, however after the bandwagon itself I find 00icon's posts to be nearly incomprehensible, first there is the classic "one of you on my bandwagon is scum", then this

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

^what she said

was this a joke? or are you actually agreeing that ta1lgunn3r has a legitimate reason to suspect you?
I also find it odd that you would essentially ask who you should vote for with such a large ongoing wagon of suspicion mounting on edoc for wagoning you, which you claim to find suspicious.

now on to edocsil
the eragon game you linked to is interesting..... I read through it again and found that; 1. the vodean you mentioned was not killed for editing, quite the opposite he posted not one time in the whole game. 2. You had scolded a player in that game for editing.

Khiva! Stop editing your posts!!

how do you go from that, to "Editing is a lynchable offense." in this game?
In my opinion this strange behavior can be explained in a few ways if you are scum, perhaps you were trying to get on the quick wagon and off a townie, or perhaps you believed 00 would be lynched and you were trying to bus him as a scum mate, this would explain why 00 didn't consider voting you.

However, I am not comfortable with the speed edo was wagoned, town should have been aware of all the joke votes on him beforehand, I feel if the vote count didn't come when it did he may have been speed lynched by a wagon all saying essentially the same thing... to be on the safe side I will not put you at -1, but I would like to hear a claim please Edocsil.

[FloresDelMal]

Okay well apparently I'm not gonna hear from violet, and I would like a prod on her. But for now, I want to vote 00icon.

It was obvious Commander was being flippant with the smiley, or you deliberately misinterpreted him.

-Tails

well, my bad. i didn't notice it that way. it intrigues me that the smiley was imported rather than using one of the many available.
btw merry Xmas all!

EDIT: It starts snowing

ok found the smiley incident, back then commander was acting very erratically, but most of us laughed off for some reason, some others voted him for this reason, but the only one making a vote for importing an smiley was icon

[FloresDelMal]

oh btw the erratic behavior of commander can be found around page 9, upon re-reading, didn't seem so funny to me

[strike wolf]

Well to be honest I miscounted the votes thought there was one less on edoc at the time. Still I stick by my vote. I found edoc's vote on icon to not only be suspicious for the timing but also suspicious for the reasoning behind it as I've already explained.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

^what she said

was this a joke? or are you actually agreeing that ta1lgunn3r has a legitimate reason to suspect you?

No he was referencing to flores, he wanted to know why I voted for him. She posted right above him.

ok found the smiley incident, back then commander was acting very erratically, but most of us laughed off for some reason, some others voted him for this reason, but the only one making a vote for importing an smiley was icon

I voted for him because he over-reacted to Commander's post, the smiley was just Commander being sarcastic, and 00icon either actually believed that Commander was admitting to being scum with the smiley, or he was trying to start a case with that:

Again, seriously - where have I stated that I wanted to be voted out?

The smiley was a suggestive motif.

Anyways yeah that's not much, could just be a new guy trying to root out scum, so I'll unvote for now.

-Tails

[TA1LGUNN3R]

*First quote was from /. Damn I keep messing up tonight.

-Tails