Puss In Boots C9 Mafia, Mafia Wins, Safari + Ghost

[ghostly447]

It is really a luck of the draw here. Look for scum slips, or lynch the best case. cant really go off of claims normally. some are weak, some arent.

Codie, please tell me where you found "The Terror" because I cant find one in plot.

already did wiki
im not saying hes not the terror is what role he was given its what he claimed VT

a fearsome monster called the Terror

does this sound like a town to you
just cant see the terror as VT

I looked here and "the terror" is the golden goose's mother. Is that all that scummy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puss_in_Bo ... 11_film%29

Not at all. But I must admit the name had me going there. Lol

[dazza2008]

It is really a luck of the draw here. Look for scum slips, or lynch the best case. cant really go off of claims normally. some are weak, some arent.

Codie, please tell me where you found "The Terror" because I cant find one in plot.

already did wiki
im not saying hes not the terror is what role he was given its what he claimed VT

a fearsome monster called the Terror

does this sound like a town to you
just cant see the terror as VT

It seems to me that codie just posted the bit that made it look bad. Hoping we would all just go for the lynch.

Vote codierose

[codierose]

from the same link

The trio ride the fast-growing beanstalk into the clouds where, Humpty explains, they'll find castle of the late giant. Now, he continues, a fearsome monster called the Terror guards the Golden Goose. When they realize the golden eggs are too heavy to carry, they steal the Goose — which is just a gosling — and escape the castle and the Terror. While celebrating their victory, the group is ambushed by Jack and Jill, who knock Puss unconscious.

no not at all dazza look to me more like your trying to defend clever
all i got to gone on is whats in wiki he says hes the terror above is what it say it is lol what else do you go on

[ghostly447]

Only thing I have against the codierose case is that the clever and new guy case is stronger in my opinion.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Do u think the mod did this on purpose cause now it seems like even after i claim that im scummy lol

[safariguy5]

Do u think the mod did this on purpose cause now it seems like even after i claim that im scummy lol

Well some VT claims are bound to be weaker than others. After all, not everyone can be Puss (I have not watched the movie either).

Well the Terror seems less town than the other claims we've had so far, so I suppose I might support a test lynch. Though to be fair, I have no idea who might be mafia, so I'm going off flavor spec mostly.

[dazza2008]

from the same link

The trio ride the fast-growing beanstalk into the clouds where, Humpty explains, they'll find castle of the late giant. Now, he continues, a fearsome monster called the Terror guards the Golden Goose. When they realize the golden eggs are too heavy to carry, they steal the Goose — which is just a gosling — and escape the castle and the Terror. While celebrating their victory, the group is ambushed by Jack and Jill, who knock Puss unconscious.

no not at all dazza look to me more like your trying to defend clever
all i got to gone on is whats in wiki he says hes the terror above is what it say it is lol what else do you go on

Yeah but when you read the whole thing it seems unlikely to be mafia. Could be a fake claim still as was said but it seems you are trying to make it look worse than it is.

[codierose]

are we not ment to look at all role claims im not looking more into it than any other case just its sounds and reads my scummier than the others and frankly where not getting anywhere at the moment day one no lynch day 2 the same ??

[new guy1]

test lynch? is there a way to do a test lynch?assuming your town safari why would you want to even try lynching a claimed town?
you understand that if you are town and you lynch town that town will lose right, unless the possibly existant doc gets lucky?
if your suspicion of him being mafia is that strong then do so but being town i want to see town win and lynching him is a bad idea to me.

[ghostly447]

test lynch? is there a way to do a test lynch?assuming your town safari why would you want to even try lynching a claimed town?
you understand that if you are town and you lynch town that town will lose right, unless the possibly existant doc gets lucky?
if your suspicion of him being mafia is that strong then do so but being town i want to see town win and lynching him is a bad idea to me.

Test lynch isnt the best phrase for it, but I agree with safari in general. Assuming Safari is townie, his job is to attempt to find the best case, and go with it. If we knew who the mafia was, this game would be simple, so in general, all lynches (unless there is reason to beleive that they have true evidence such as a cop something of the sort backing them) are tests. And yes, unless there is a doc, and they get lucky, and we dont find at least 1 mafia tonight, this game is going to the mafia. That has been stated several times.

My suspicion is that strong, therefore my vote remains. So, yes New guy1. You have stated points that are already posted all across the board. We need to find a case, and go with it, and that is what I believe safari has done (actually following my case against CLEVER). So, that was yet another weak case against safari (and I know I should not be defending him, but it is a weak case, and I do not want it to deter us from a GOOD, WELL BUILT one agaist CLEVER).

[Some7hingCLEVER]

test lynch? is there a way to do a test lynch?assuming your town safari why would you want to even try lynching a claimed town?
you understand that if you are town and you lynch town that town will lose right, unless the possibly existant doc gets lucky?
if your suspicion of him being mafia is that strong then do so but being town i want to see town win and lynching him is a bad idea to me.

Test lynch isnt the best phrase for it, but I agree with safari in general. Assuming Safari is townie, his job is to attempt to find the best case, and go with it. If we knew who the mafia was, this game would be simple, so in general, all lynches (unless there is reason to beleive that they have true evidence such as a cop something of the sort backing them) are tests. And yes, unless there is a doc, and they get lucky, and we dont find at least 1 mafia tonight, this game is going to the mafia. That has been stated several times.

My suspicion is that strong, therefore my vote remains. So, yes New guy1. You have stated points that are already posted all across the board. We need to find a case, and go with it, and that is what I believe safari has done (actually following my case against CLEVER). So, that was yet another weak case against safari (and I know I should not be defending him, but it is a weak case, and I do not want it to deter us from a GOOD, WELL BUILT one agaist CLEVER).

i understand what new guy said and it deserves a look but think about it
do you really wanna not try to test the other people
you guys are gonna risk the game on a VT claim your not even sure about
idk it just is a bad idea for town
it makes me suspicious
FOS Ghostly
FOS Safari

[ghostly447]

test lynch? is there a way to do a test lynch?assuming your town safari why would you want to even try lynching a claimed town?
you understand that if you are town and you lynch town that town will lose right, unless the possibly existant doc gets lucky?
if your suspicion of him being mafia is that strong then do so but being town i want to see town win and lynching him is a bad idea to me.

Test lynch isnt the best phrase for it, but I agree with safari in general. Assuming Safari is townie, his job is to attempt to find the best case, and go with it. If we knew who the mafia was, this game would be simple, so in general, all lynches (unless there is reason to beleive that they have true evidence such as a cop something of the sort backing them) are tests. And yes, unless there is a doc, and they get lucky, and we dont find at least 1 mafia tonight, this game is going to the mafia. That has been stated several times.

My suspicion is that strong, therefore my vote remains. So, yes New guy1. You have stated points that are already posted all across the board. We need to find a case, and go with it, and that is what I believe safari has done (actually following my case against CLEVER). So, that was yet another weak case against safari (and I know I should not be defending him, but it is a weak case, and I do not want it to deter us from a GOOD, WELL BUILT one agaist CLEVER).

i understand what new guy said and it deserves a look but think about it
do you really wanna not try to test the other people
you guys are gonna risk the game on a VT claim your not even sure about
idk it just is a bad idea for town
it makes me suspicious
FOS Ghostly
FOS Safari

Thats exactly what you are trying to do. You are trying to lynch 2 people on a VT claim just like I am trying to lynch a VT claim where you and new guy1 stick like glue on. I defended safari just now, but that is because it further proves my point -The case I have on you is stronger-.

[new guy1]

test lynch? is there a way to do a test lynch?assuming your town safari why would you want to even try lynching a claimed town?
you understand that if you are town and you lynch town that town will lose right, unless the possibly existant doc gets lucky?
if your suspicion of him being mafia is that strong then do so but being town i want to see town win and lynching him is a bad idea to me.

Test lynch isnt the best phrase for it, but I agree with safari in general. Assuming Safari is townie, his job is to attempt to find the best case, and go with it. If we knew who the mafia was, this game would be simple, so in general, all lynches (unless there is reason to beleive that they have true evidence such as a cop something of the sort backing them) are tests. And yes, unless there is a doc, and they get lucky, and we dont find at least 1 mafia tonight, this game is going to the mafia. That has been stated several times.

My suspicion is that strong, therefore my vote remains. So, yes New guy1. You have stated points that are already posted all across the board. We need to find a case, and go with it, and that is what I believe safari has done (actually following my case against CLEVER). So, that was yet another weak case against safari (and I know I should not be defending him, but it is a weak case, and I do not want it to deter us from a GOOD, WELL BUILT one agaist CLEVER).

those points are not posted on the board, and your case against CLEVER holds absolutly no weight. if it were that good, we would have lynched him day one. Safari seems to want to end the game quickly with this half-ass case even though he knows the game will most likely go to the mafia if we get it wrong. Vote Safari for wanting to get the day over with much too quick with this case which i still dont see holding any weight.

Fastposted---- and your case is not stronger, i have evidence that safari guy would absolutly want trini dead. we do not stick like glue, as i only defended CLEVER because the case against him is ABSOLUTLY TERRIBLE.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

i not once said lets lynch ghostly or safari
so im not trying to lynch a VT claim so your obviously skimming or not paying attention
so DOUBLE FOS Ghostly

[new guy1]

i not once said lets lynch ghostly or safari
so im not trying to lynch a VT claim so your obviously skimming or not paying attention
so DOUBLE FOS Ghostly

lol, a double FOS... this isnt three strikes your out, its pretty much if they are worth the double FOS vote em.

[ghostly447]

i not once said lets lynch ghostly or safari
so im not trying to lynch a VT claim so your obviously skimming or not paying attention
so DOUBLE FOS Ghostly

You just sealed your death (by lynch) in my eyes. Day 1, you voted me and as for you new guy1, My case hold more weight than yours. We did not lynch him day 1 because the case was gone and forgotten when you guys went from me to safariguy immediately. So you have just lost that one AGAIN. Go read again, CLEVER tried to bandwagon on the case against me with a completely weak case, and then you are somehow trying to tell me "he would want him dead" makes sense with a single quote? I have 3+ reasons as to why CLEVER should be lynched.

1. Bandwagoning with a weak case.
2. Inactivity (I have already given him an out on that due to it being an early game for him)
3. Skimming (I had already gone against codieroses case agaisnt me, and he still brought it back again to try to use it as an excuse to lynch me)

You have a single post saying "This is why he would want him dead" which does absolutely no good since it is just as good reversed "He would want him dead" "He would want to kill him so that the town would immediately try to accuse him of wanting him dead".

The way I see it, all the other players in this game should have to do is log on, and vote for CLEVER after this puny "case" agaisnt Safari in comparison to the well built, well reasoned case against CLEVER. But I will not speak for them, and should they find my case against CLEVER flawed, I will gladly debate further.

Fastposted.

[new guy1]

you skim again, i just said another reason for safari to be lynched. he wants the day over quickly, and how are we supposed to test lynch somebody? once you TEST him hes gone. hes trying to put it nicely saying, oh well were just testing, cause thats definatly possible. FOS ghostly for skimming.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

i not once said lets lynch ghostly or safari
so im not trying to lynch a VT claim so your obviously skimming or not paying attention
so DOUBLE FOS Ghostly

You just sealed your death (by lynch) in my eyes. Day 1, you voted me and as for you new guy1, My case hold more weight than yours. We did not lynch him day 1 because the case was gone and forgotten when you guys went from me to safariguy immediately. So you have just lost that one AGAIN. Go read again, CLEVER tried to bandwagon on the case against me with a completely weak case, and then you are somehow trying to tell me "he would want him dead" makes sense with a single quote? I have 3+ reasons as to why CLEVER should be lynched.

1. Bandwagoning with a weak case.
2. Inactivity (I have already given him an out on that due to it being an early game for him)
3. Skimming (I had already gone against codieroses case agaisnt me, and he still brought it back again to try to use it as an excuse to lynch me)

You have a single post saying "This is why he would want him dead" which does absolutely no good since it is just as good reversed "He would want him dead" "He would want to kill him so that the town would immediately try to accuse him of wanting him dead".

The way I see it, all the other players in this game should have to do is log on, and vote for CLEVER after this puny "case" agaisnt Safari in comparison to the well built, well reasoned case against CLEVER. But I will not speak for them, and should they find my case against CLEVER flawed, I will gladly debate further.

Fastposted.

and me "sealing my death" im not trying to lynch a claimed VT and i wasnt then
cause if you notice as soon as you claim i backed off and unvoted so you cant say i sealed my death
the case against me i see is weaker cause in the case against safari guy trini actually ended up dead and if the case was so strong then why would it have been "gone and forgotten" which to me says that everyone else also notices that the case was not that strong
and about bandwagoning ...it didnt seem like a week case in my eyes
but now obviously it is and thats why im pursuing the case on safari not you
so now it just looks like you are defending him even when your saying your not
and the truth is that the case is a good one that could be looked more into and it seems like your trying to distract everyone with a weak case against me
so with that i vote Safari
and as i cant FOS you again i wont ..but you are definitaly looking pretty scummy to me

fastposted new guy

[ghostly447]

you skim again, i just said another reason for safari to be lynched. he wants the day over quickly, and how are we supposed to test lynch somebody? once you TEST him hes gone. hes trying to put it nicely saying, oh well were just testing, cause thats definatly possible. FOS ghostly for skimming.

I already fought that. I am sure he doesnt mean TEST in that literal meaning. I said that he is probably well aware of the circumstances, and probably more likely means that everything in this game will be a test (since a power role has failed to come up with a better case). So you probably are just as guilty of skimming as I (and that means not at all). The case is against CLEVER, and yours is against safari. You are trying to interpret his words for him now, and their meaning? I do not think you hold the right to speak for him, because there are many different meanings of any word. You are just taking them up front instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt that his words mean something more logical.

Scumslip? I do not believe so.
Your case is stronger than mine? I know its not.
I skimmed? I know I did not. I simply proved your case wrong again and did not blatanyly address every aspect in numbered form.
CLEVER is Scum? I would bet money on it.
You are his scumbuddy coming to his immediate rescue? I could toss a few bucks on that one too.

Fast posted by CLEVER

[ghostly447]

i not once said lets lynch ghostly or safari
so im not trying to lynch a VT claim so your obviously skimming or not paying attention
so DOUBLE FOS Ghostly

You just sealed your death (by lynch) in my eyes. Day 1, you voted me and as for you new guy1, My case hold more weight than yours. We did not lynch him day 1 because the case was gone and forgotten when you guys went from me to safariguy immediately. So you have just lost that one AGAIN. Go read again, CLEVER tried to bandwagon on the case against me with a completely weak case, and then you are somehow trying to tell me "he would want him dead" makes sense with a single quote? I have 3+ reasons as to why CLEVER should be lynched.

1. Bandwagoning with a weak case.
2. Inactivity (I have already given him an out on that due to it being an early game for him)
3. Skimming (I had already gone against codieroses case agaisnt me, and he still brought it back again to try to use it as an excuse to lynch me)

You have a single post saying "This is why he would want him dead" which does absolutely no good since it is just as good reversed "He would want him dead" "He would want to kill him so that the town would immediately try to accuse him of wanting him dead".

The way I see it, all the other players in this game should have to do is log on, and vote for CLEVER after this puny "case" agaisnt Safari in comparison to the well built, well reasoned case against CLEVER. But I will not speak for them, and should they find my case against CLEVER flawed, I will gladly debate further.

Fastposted.

and me "sealing my death" im not trying to lynch a claimed VT and i wasnt then
cause if you notice as soon as you claim i backed off and unvoted so you cant say i sealed my death
the case against me i see is weaker cause in the case against safari guy trini actually ended up dead and if the case was so strong then why would it have been "gone and forgotten" which to me says that everyone else also notices that the case was not that strong
and about bandwagoning ...it didnt seem like a week case in my eyes
but now obviously it is and thats why im pursuing the case on safari not you
so now it just looks like you are defending him even when your saying your not
and the truth is that the case is a good one that could be looked more into and it seems like your trying to distract everyone with a weak case against me
so with that i vote Safari
and as i cant FOS you again i wont ..but you are definitaly looking pretty scummy to me

fastposted new guy

You are picking my words apart. Sealing your death means that you are more than likely, in my opinion, sealing your fate with your bits and pieces of a so called case.
The Safari case holds no weight, because if you were once again skimming, The logic behind "He wants him dead" is flawed due to the fact someone could just as easily say "But since he wanted him dead, it could just be framing".
The case was gone and forgotten because the safari lead, at the time, was a tad better, and I took it as a slight mess up on your part. But your remark of "That is a pretty good case. You should claim since your at L-2" was just as much rushing the day as Safari's request to lynch you today. You backed off, in my opinion, because I proved you wrong and therefore you could not continue to pressure me.
AGAIN since you seem to have not read a single word I said, I am defending him because it supports my stronger case against you (therefore proving your case wrong once more in that you are not only skimming, but you are new guy1 are working together, and trying to FRAME him (since we are bringing trini's death as relative, and this may help you see how I can work that just as well as you can)).
I am not trying to distract anyone from your case against safari. I am trying to deter them away from your clearly pathetic attempt at a lynch on a townie so you can close this game out quickly. And My case is stronger, and by posting so much you are clearly trying to actually do just that against me (deter people from the stronger case and go against mine).

[Some7hingCLEVER]

So your saying sealing my death means...sealing my fate? Is this not the same
Ok the fact is that the case against me is terrible...the only good point you have is that I bandwagon a weak case (that I believed was a good one)...and when I realized it was a weak case one after you claimed I unvoted and left it alone and that was the end of it...so again you saying I bandwagoned a weak case is complete BS ...and im reading everything ur saying it just makes little sense to me and I don't believe it...and me wanted the day to end just as much as safari? I'm pretty sure a claim doesn't end the day...i wasn't rushing the day I was pointing out that you should claim before your hammered so if voting counts as rushing the day then everyone who voted u is as guilty as I am...i just see the flaws in your statements and I just hope everyone else can see that

[ghostly447]

So your saying sealing my death means...sealing my fate? Is this not the same
Ok the fact is that the case against me is terrible...the only good point you have is that I bandwagon a weak case (that I believed was a good one)...and when I realized it was a weak case one after you claimed I unvoted and left it alone and that was the end of it...so again you saying I bandwagoned a weak case is complete BS ...and im reading everything ur saying it just makes little sense to me and I don't believe it...and me wanted the day to end just as much as safari? I'm pretty sure a claim doesn't end the day...i wasn't rushing the day I was pointing out that you should claim before your hammered so if voting counts as rushing the day then everyone who voted u is as guilty as I am...i just see the flaws in your statements and I just hope everyone else can see that

So your saying not only did you follow a weak case believing it was strong (already building up a case against yourself since you dove in without even trying to analyze the strong points and why they were strong) but you also agree on 2 things:

1. IF safari is scum, I am scum.
2. IF safari is scum, he obviously would have killed trini? Last I checked, if me and him were working together it would have been Codierose night 1, and you night 2 (or visa versa) working by you and New guy1's logic of a "vengeance killing".

You guys are turning your own cases against each other. Further confirming that my vote stays no CLEVER, and my FOS stays on New guy1.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

1.) I'm not allowed to say if he is scum then your scum when you said if new guy is scum then im scum your kinda going back on things you have said
2.) were not saying he obviously wanted him dead were saying he seemed to want him gone more than others and I see what your saying that mafia could have killed to trini to blame it on him...but honestly i can't take that risk ...so my vote stands on safari
3.)and you said that if you and him were scum buddies then you would have voted codie...so now you talking for him when you blamed new guy for talking for me

Once again your going against things you have said earlier and its scummy

[drake_259]

Vote Count 2.1

some7hing: codierose, ghostly
codierose: dazza
safari: newguy, some7hing

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[safariguy5]

Well ok, let's do it new guy's way then. What he's saying is basically don't lynch anyone who's claimed a town role.

So what do you suggest? Massclaim? Where would that get us? Just a bunch of VT claims (and maybe a cop or doc claim). And then what would you do new guy? No lynch because everyone is a VT?

I want to get the day over quickly? Did you ever see me vote? I just put the idea out there, don't go jumping on me just because you want to believe that I killed trini because that is a WIFOM statement. Mafia could just as easily kill me tonight. Does that mean you're mafia because you were against me today?

So ok then new guy, what do YOU suggest we do? Pressure someone else? Massclaim? No Lynch?