The Whitechapel Murderer- GAME OVER - TOWN WON

by **Metsfanmax** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:16 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Also, based on his posts, I was expecting a totally different claim…
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Actually, that's interesting. I can see why one might be suspicious of that.

by **FloresDelMal** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:42 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Nobody's going to even try to figure out where I claimed already?

unvote vote DY you got my attention, can you please tell us? the argument that half claims hurt more than help is not only for the noobs.

benga wrote:so basically you are saying you voted me just to boot me off game? cause I am noob?

and calling me stupid for my vote, yet you want me lynched if my role isn't important, I say that's dumb and scummy to me.

I don't know how that doesn't feel scummy

so you obviously learnt nothing from the kindness and patience of more experienced players, so do whatever you need to do for get your thoughts in order, I've put this quote together for yours and any noob benefit.

Iron Butterfly wrote:There are certain protocols that apply to mafia:
just because you are Town does not mean others will believe you are Town.

The OMGUS vote was (is always) scummy.

there was no need to claim when you did (is useless to hurry when there is not enough heat)

stomping your feet and pointing at other players does not work well either. (a real defense is backed by logic and/or evidence, not tantrums)

Many times people will push your buttons to see how you react. (is part of the game, learn it, use it)

lynch all liars. (Apply judgement, for example a beloved princess should avoid exposure at all costs)

OK enough of the lecture. You have been given a ton of lee way this game. Your next game you will not be given that benefit.

QFT all newbies consider yourselves schooled, i think the lee way should only be applied to day 1, i expect more composure and better arguments from now on. Also i could like to add that not everyone is cut out for mafia, a minimum level of abstraction, distance and objectivity is required, if you are feeling personally attacked, lost and this gamming experience is not enjoyable for you, the net offer plentiful options of entertainment, is useless to employ your free time in activities that you not enjoy and replacements are not hard to find.

by **FloresDelMal** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:46 pm

strike wolf wrote: There are times for half claims. If your name claim is strong, what you do reveal about your role contains evidence that supports your identity sufficiently to ward off accusation, etc. than you shouldn't be forced to reveal everything about your role but this wasn't any situation like that.

another excellent piece of advise

by **FloresDelMal** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:49 pm

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller

ok im off, i runned out of kindness :sick:

by **new guy1** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:49 pm

Hey guys, sorry I havent been active the past few days, I went to my moms to visit and forgot my computer, and I dont post from my phone, so I figured I wouldnt check it over the weekend. I didnt know that benga was still considered a noob and thats the only reason I voted him. Just because I believe his claim, I will Unvote, and sorry I didnt take it off sooner.

by **new guy1** on Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:51 pm

Also, to add. I dont think the case on DY is a good one. I dont know what the case really is, I guess I missed something.

by **benga** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:07 am

new guy1 wrote:Also, to add. I dont think the case on DY is a good one. I dont know what the case really is, I guess I missed something.

Don't think there is a case, he saw me noobing so he just supported the easy way out for me

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:52 am

There is far too much activity for me to feel like I should keep lowering the number to lynch. I don't want you guys worrying about a mislynch, causing you all to post less.

So, until I see the posting take a nosedive, we will keep it at 8...

If you all dislike this, please just let me know.

Official Vote Count
Doomyoshi (5)-Ga7, Hotshot, Metsfanmax, nagerous, FloresdelMal
Floresdelmal (1)-Benga

Day One is always such a bitch, isn't it?!?!

by **safariguy5** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:38 pm

benga wrote:
kratos644 wrote:Had a little free time today so I've read up. Haven't seen anything overly scummy due to the things that would normally appear scummy not appearing as scummy when considering meta. I believe benga's claim. There usually seems to be some language barrier issues which leads to things that appear very OMGUS like. I would like the remainder of the information as well. If you're going to claim don't half do it. That's what gets people lynched

I am not sure if it's wise for me to say it...all those forcing me to say feel very scummy to me

wish I had more experience that this...

but think my role is more important down the way

okay here goes: I get to vote 2 times, my 2nd vote will be marked as ? and I have now lost my ability for this and next day

at this point it seems to me that neb saf and flores are somehow in connection

neb and saf protecting flores and constantly forcing me the reveal myself

Ok, you can't say that I am protecting flores because your play caused me to strongly consider voting you. Which I would have done prior to you claiming anyways. In no way is that protecting someone. Protecting someone means defending someone when they come under lynch pressure and flores was at no way under lynch pressure at the time.

vote benga for falsely linking me to Flores. Probably more a symbolic vote than anything, but you still have yours on flores, so I think it's a tit for tat thing.

As for the claim, I don't think miller would be likely for the roleclaim mainly because the authorities cleared him. So in the theme, there's no real reason to suspect him to be the killer despite initial suspicions.

I can't understand the case on Doom either. What's the rationale for voting him again? He hints at a role and everyone just wants to figure out what it is? I've seen no other reason for voting him and the people on the wagon seem like they're rolefishing to me. FoS nag and flores

by **DoomYoshi** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:39 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:There is far too much activity for me to feel like I should keep lowering the number to lynch. I don't want you guys worrying about a mislynch, causing you all to post less.

So, until I see the posting take a nosedive, we will keep it at 8...

If you all dislike this, please just let me know.

Official Vote Count
Doomyoshi (5)-Ga7, Hotshot, Metsfanmax, nagerous, FloresdelMal
Floresdelmal (1)-Benga

Day One is always such a bitch, isn't it?!?!

I am the day-cop, in the post where I quoted IB, I wrote that he is innocent. Because people tend to miss things like that, I directed you to that post in my next one. When I flipped day-cop, someone was supposed to look for the clues. Clearly, nobody would have been able to.

Remind me why people are voting for me again? Oh, right, no reason at all.

vote flores

by **nagerous** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:52 pm

Care to give a name with your day cop role? unvote

FOS Safari for trying to bring back the benga wagon, that wagon is finished, there is no case, if he can't prove his secret vote day three we lynch him then.

by **nagerous** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:53 pm

And trust me your scummy behaviour was enough for people to vote you...

by **DoomYoshi** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:02 pm

nagerous wrote:And trust me your scummy behaviour was enough for people to vote you...

Such as...

I am Frederick Abberline

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:29 pm

new guy1 wrote:Also, to add. I dont think the case on DY is a good one. I dont know what the case really is, I guess I missed something.

The case was a "day one" case. He was real quick to jump on Benga for his OMGUS vote on Flores even though he admitted there was a language issue and that Benga was new. Nag and I called him on it. DY certainly did not help his cause with his follow up statements and his attempted bread crumbing of his role.

His claim seems solid.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:40 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:His claim seems solid.

In a 15 player game with a possible third party group, it's not nearly enough to clear him as town. He could be using a fakeclaim name.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:48 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:His claim seems solid.

In a 15 player game with a possible third party group, it's not nearly enough to clear him as town. He could be using a fakeclaim name.

Are you suggesting we lynch a claimed cop day one?

Explain to me what makes his claim worse then Bengas?

I understand what you are saying and your reasoning. Outside of lynching him what would you suggest?

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:53 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:His claim seems solid.

In a 15 player game with a possible third party group, it's not nearly enough to clear him as town. He could be using a fakeclaim name.

Are you suggesting we lynch a claimed cop day one?

Explain to me what makes his claim worse then Bengas?

I understand what you are saying and your reasoning. Outside of lynching him what would you suggest?

We could force him to pick a N1 investigation target.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:53 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:His claim seems solid.

In a 15 player game with a possible third party group, it's not nearly enough to clear him as town. He could be using a fakeclaim name.

Are you suggesting we lynch a claimed cop day one?

Explain to me what makes his claim worse then Bengas?

I understand what you are saying and your reasoning. Outside of lynching him what would you suggest?

We could force him to pick a N1 investigation target.

Wait, since he's a day-cop, we can do that right now.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:03 pm

Except that he has stated that he investigated Benga.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:13 pm

strike wolf wrote:Except that he has stated that he investigated Benga.

Wait, then I missed that. Which post is this?

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:35 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Except that he has stated that he investigated Benga.

Wait, then I missed that. Which post is this?

Really??

by **strike wolf** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:50 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:There is far too much activity for me to feel like I should keep lowering the number to lynch. I don't want you guys worrying about a mislynch, causing you all to post less.

So, until I see the posting take a nosedive, we will keep it at 8...

If you all dislike this, please just let me know.

Official Vote Count
Doomyoshi (5)-Ga7, Hotshot, Metsfanmax, nagerous, FloresdelMal
Floresdelmal (1)-Benga

Day One is always such a bitch, isn't it?!?!

I am the day-cop, in the post where I quoted IB, I wrote that he is innocent. Because people tend to miss things like that, I directed you to that post in my next one. When I flipped day-cop, someone was supposed to look for the clues. Clearly, nobody would have been able to.

Remind me why people are voting for me again? Oh, right, no reason at all.

vote flores

I may have messed up on who he actually investigated but he does clearly say that he used it.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:53 pm

Not only do I not interpret that as being about benga, that's at best a soft-claim about having investigated someone. And I looked through all of his posts to figure out what he was talking about, but the only time I saw him quoting IB, he said something like "I knew you were scum."

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:57 pm

yup...but it was also a string of joke posts.

The best course of action is for DY to step up and give clarity to the situation.

He has claimed day cop, given a credible bio and claimed either myself or Benga innocent.

by **HotShot53** on Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:56 pm

DY's claim seems believable. It would be good if he was clear at who he investigated/cleared. (Although I'm guessing there will be some godfather-like false town results... but at least it's a start) But anyway, I will unvote

So is anyone still suspicious of metsfanmax? Or is there anyone else out there somewhat suspicious?