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Hologram wrote:I don't see hardly anything to go on at the moment. The case against clive is flimsy at best, and I haven't seen anything with any more to go on.
Sigh, I suppose I'll unvote until something of actual interest happens.
sam_levi_11 wrote:I agree, these bandwagons have no substance at all. There is no real evidence and no one has anything today, just like every day 1.
Suspect101 wrote:unvote vote no lynch
Suspect101 wrote:We have 8.5 days left before the deadline, which means we have 8 days of nonsense before people start jumping on random bandwagons to try and get a lynch before the deadline, which will probably result in the lynch of an overagressive townie, which everyone is afarid to be and why no one is saying anything.
We follow standard day 1 operating procedure and vote for someone who has said someone who has said something scummy. This person will have a chance to defend & claim & then we decide if we want to lynch & hope we are lucky...karelpietertje wrote:well what do you want to do then? we do not have any evidence at all.
anything that could be a clue could also be a bluff pretending to be a clue!
william18 wrote:Vote Clive
The fact that he always throws around votes and his extreme defensiveness for pmchugh make my very inclined to lynch him. This is basically a recipe for scum who are saving their partner. We have to pressure. No lynch is a terrible descision. What are we gonna do at night, randomly chose? We need a lynch or at least a claim to base our night actions off of.
AceArtemis wrote:william18 wrote:Vote Clive
The fact that he always throws around votes and his extreme defensiveness for pmchugh make my very inclined to lynch him. This is basically a recipe for scum who are saving their partner. We have to pressure. No lynch is a terrible descision. What are we gonna do at night, randomly chose? We need a lynch or at least a claim to base our night actions off of.
Not only is no lynch a terrible decision, its against the rules. In this game, it is literally impossible to get a no lynch. I do agree with you that we need to pressure, though. We don't want to get down to 2 days before deadline and have an unproductive scramble of random votes to get a lynch.
Unvote, Vote: Clive to up the pressure.
FoS: Suspect for voting no lynch, which is always a poor decision on day 1 because a lynch generates vital information.
Suspect101 wrote:did you not read my reason for no lynch?
AceArtemis wrote:Suspect101 wrote:did you not read my reason for no lynch?
I read your reason for no lynch. No lynch is almost never good for the town, because if we no lynch, we'll just be in the same situation tomorrow, while a lynch, even a townie lynch, will let us see who went after who, who defended who, and who lurked, and we can use that information on future days to make a more informed lynch.
Minister Masket wrote:AceArtemis wrote:Suspect101 wrote:did you not read my reason for no lynch?
I read your reason for no lynch. No lynch is almost never good for the town, because if we no lynch, we'll just be in the same situation tomorrow, while a lynch, even a townie lynch, will let us see who went after who, who defended who, and who lurked, and we can use that information on future days to make a more informed lynch.
Yes, but you are forgetting it can swing entirely the other way. Let's say the Day 1 lynch is an unlucky townie. The majority on the bandwagon will also be townies, and chances are they will be future targets for the next lynches. Add in the night kills, and at Day 3 you're at least 5 townies down.
That's a worst case scenario though.
Vote Over-rule Rule 6
As I put in my rules - "a No Lynch is boring and hardly happens anyway" - but it's nice to have the option there.
Suspect101 wrote:These two quotes say it all:Hologram wrote:I don't see hardly anything to go on at the moment. The case against clive is flimsy at best, and I haven't seen anything with any more to go on.
Sigh, I suppose I'll unvote until something of actual interest happens.sam_levi_11 wrote:I agree, these bandwagons have no substance at all. There is no real evidence and no one has anything today, just like every day 1.
If this is the way it is going to be, with no one doing anything except posting on how flimsy reasons for day 1 votes are, waiting for everyone else to do the work, then:
unvote vote no lynch
This is stupid. 2 or 3 people have actually tried to contribute something out of 15 players, with the rest saying they are not going to contribute or they have nothing to go on.... because you are not pressuring anyone to get anything or not contributing any ideas themselves. I tried to get discussion going, even on myself, because even if you are town and you see how/why people are voting for you, it gives you information. which we have none.
If this is the way it is going to be I suggest that all mods put shorter time restrictions on day 1 or just start in the night phase. At least it will keep things active. Inactivity is the leading contribution to the death of CC mafia.
We have 8.5 days left before the deadline, which means we have 8 days of nonsense before people start jumping on random bandwagons to try and get a lynch before the deadline, which will probably result in the lynch of an overagressive townie, which everyone is afarid to be and why no one is saying anything.
nagerous wrote:I'd rather lynch an angry townie than a no lynch anyday as it still generates information and can illustrate who bandwagoned then those on lots of bandwagons can be questioned in themselves. If they have a decent enough role they will claim before the lynch anyway and hence be safe from the chop. Eventually, scum get found - that's how we play mafia... none of this No lynch BS.
pmchugh wrote:Sometimes a no lynch can appear attractive as garunteed no townies are lost but it means no scum are lost and every night benifits scum
without a lyunch day 1, day 2 is just another day 1, so do you no-lynch again?
Minister Masket wrote:Boy oh boy, we're not thinking outside the box tonight are we?pmchugh wrote:Sometimes a no lynch can appear attractive as garunteed no townies are lost but it means no scum are lost and every night benifits scum
Oh dear, have we forgotten about the doctor and roleblocker roles? Not to mention a few others. If they get lucky then the scum gain nothing.without a lyunch day 1, day 2 is just another day 1, so do you no-lynch again?
No, because in a game like this I can see watcher and tracker roles. Definately suited for the elf.
All they need to do is to make accurate guesses from the results of their actions.
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Why are we even discussing not lynching when it isn't a possible option?
nagerous wrote:Exactly iliad, a no lynch will be much more of a hindrance than a help and what you reccomended is very very scummy.
Mr. Squirrel wrote:nagerous wrote:Exactly iliad, a no lynch will be much more of a hindrance than a help and what you reccomended is very very scummy.
Can you explain yourself? How was his suggestion scummy?
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