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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby Stroop on Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:11 pm

Wut? More bulletproof cult?

I investigated neanderpaul and AceArtemis:

neanderpaul is third party
Ace is scum

I think that when my investigation goes wrong, I might actually get a third party result instead of an insane result. That, or Fircoal has an unhealthy love of third parties...

vote Ace
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby Stroop on Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:12 pm

And how the hell do bulletproofs keep dying at night? :?
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby Fircoal on Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:36 pm

Stroop wrote:And how the hell do bulletproofs keep dying at night? :?


They're actually 2-lifers, but I've been calling them bulletproof. That's why. ;)
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:01 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Stroop wrote:And how the hell do bulletproofs keep dying at night? :?


They're actually 2-lifers, but I've been calling them bulletproof. That's why. ;)

What is a 2 lifer?
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby Fircoal on Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:03 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Stroop wrote:And how the hell do bulletproofs keep dying at night? :?


They're actually 2-lifers, but I've been calling them bulletproof. That's why. ;)

What is a 2 lifer?


They have two lifes. In other words, they have to be killed twice to die.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:06 pm

then we have several killers, 3 I would think.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Nights 2*

Postby Stroop on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:20 pm

Stroop wrote:I think that when my investigation goes wrong, I might actually get a third party result instead of an insane result. That, or Fircoal has an unhealthy love of third parties...

Actually, scrap that.

pmc was insane; he only got scum on ga7 because godfathers show up town, so I also failed the investigation and got a correct result through that...

So, it seems Suspect and neanderpaul are indeed third party... I wonder if I got my investigation on Ace right.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:40 pm

vote Ace

You were right about GA7 so I assume you are right now.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:41 pm

wait so did ace come up as town or scum, since I thought you thought you were insane.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:42 pm

captainwalrus wrote:wait so did ace come up as town or scum, since I thought you thought you were insane.


pmc was insane, and only found GA7 to be scum because Godfathers come up as town, therefore they look like scum to the insane.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:43 pm

I understand the 2lifers as bulletproofs, but what about the PGO who kills noone.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Fircoal on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:49 pm

Suspect101 wrote:I understand the 2lifers as bulletproofs, but what about the PGO who kills noone.


Unlike I've stated in the past, the PGO, at least in this game, only counts as one kill, not an auto death.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:50 pm

wait so are all the cops two-lifers?
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:52 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:I understand the 2lifers as bulletproofs, but what about the PGO who kills noone.


Unlike I've stated in the past, the PGO, at least in this game, only counts as one kill, not an auto death.



This means that pmc had two lifes and so does Stroop, well now stroop has one life.

This also means that there could also only be 1 killler.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:57 pm

Why, because both the people who died at night tried to kill the PGO? That could work, we know PMC did, so it would only take one, but Mr Squirrel's sort of implied 2, one with the knives and one with the bullet.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby pmchugh on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:17 pm

Another NK, great.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:45 pm

pmchugh wrote:Another NK, great.


Well look on the bright side. It is probably for 1 of 2 reasons. 1. you are popular and people like you. 2. people are scared of you because you are so good.




well I guess 3. could be because people don't like you, but I would rather think it is one of the first 2. :D
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Fircoal on Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:49 pm

Suspect101 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:Another NK, great.


Well look on the bright side. It is probably for 1 of 2 reasons. 1. you are popular and people like you. 2. people are scared of you because you are so good.




well I guess 3. could be because people don't like you, but I would rather think it is one of the first 2. :D


It's #3 ;)
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby pmchugh on Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:17 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:Another NK, great.


Well look on the bright side. It is probably for 1 of 2 reasons. 1. you are popular and people like you. 2. people are scared of you because you are so good.




well I guess 3. could be because people don't like you, but I would rather think it is one of the first 2. :D


It's #3 ;)


I think it's #4. I post a lot.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby AceArtemis on Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:21 am

Ok, there are five players left. We likely have one cult leader, one SK, one mafia, and two townies.

@Stroop, is there a possibility that cult shows up as third party in your results? Since I am town, if your results are true, Suspect and Neanderpaul must both be third party. However, there is likely only one third party in the game, a SK. Either cult shows up as third party in your results, or you are a mafia cop and bussed your scumbuddy yesterday and are now lying about me being mafia.
I'm going to assume Stroop is not lying in the below discussion.

-Suspect/Neanderpaul-
Stroop has gotten third party results on both of these players. Since the result on Ga7 was incorrect (because he was GF), we know Suspect is 3rd party, and since I am town, I know that Neanderpaul is third party as well. These two players are likely to be SK, since there are probably two killers in the game with one mafia, one of them is almost certainly an SK.

-CW-
CW might be the cult leader, but I really am not sure about him. With the way he blindly followed the cop yesterday, he might have been just trying to bandwagon to get into night, and recruit someone.

-Me-
Since I am L-1, with a guilty cop result on me, I need to claim. I am a bomb. If somebody kills me, they die. I do not have any special bulletproof or "two-life" ability, so I'm assuming nobody's tried to kill me yet. I'm not sure whether my ability flat out kills them or just removes one life, but that issue may be moot since there may not be a "two-life" killer out there.

Suspect101 wrote:vote Ace

You were right about GA7 so I assume you are right now.

Blindly following the cop after he admitted that he was only right because Ga7 was a Godfather? I find you quite suspicious. You are probably just a SK trying to get a quick lynch. Vote: Suspect
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Stroop on Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:22 am

Suspect101 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Suspect101 wrote:I understand the 2lifers as bulletproofs, but what about the PGO who kills noone.


Unlike I've stated in the past, the PGO, at least in this game, only counts as one kill, not an auto death.



This means that pmc had two lifes and so does Stroop, well now stroop has one life.

Nothing in my role suggests that I started out with 2 lives though :? Maybe I really was busdriven...

Suspect101 wrote:vote Ace

You were right about GA7 so I assume you are right now.

Not necessarily. I have a 50% chance of failing an investigation; in that case I get an insane result.

When I investigated ga7, I should have gotten a town result, because he was a godfather. I failed the investigation and I got scum instead.

captainwalrus wrote:wait so did ace come up as town or scum, since I thought you thought you were insane.

Ace came up as scum. There's a 25% chance that this is a wrong result (assuming Fircoal processes the 50% chance correctly).

Ace should claim. Which he did when he just fastposted me.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Stroop on Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:45 am

AceArtemis wrote:@Stroop, is there a possibility that cult shows up as third party in your results? Since I am town, if your results are true, Suspect and Neanderpaul must both be third party. However, there is likely only one third party in the game, a SK. Either cult shows up as third party in your results, or you are a mafia cop and bussed your scumbuddy yesterday and are now lying about me being mafia.
I'm going to assume Stroop is not lying in the below discussion.

Cult is generally third party, so yeah, I assume I would get a third party result on them. I can't be sure though.

-Suspect/Neanderpaul-
Stroop has gotten third party results on both of these players. Since the result on Ga7 was incorrect (because he was GF), we know Suspect is 3rd party, and since I am town, I know that Neanderpaul is third party as well. These two players are likely to be SK, since there are probably two killers in the game with one mafia, one of them is almost certainly an SK.

I agree. If I have to choose one, I think it would be Suspect.

-CW-
CW might be the cult leader, but I really am not sure about him. With the way he blindly followed the cop yesterday, he might have been just trying to bandwagon to get into night, and recruit someone.

Blindly following the cop isn't so odd. I wonder if recruitment gives you the second life the culties seem to have :-k
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Since I am L-1, with a guilty cop result on me, I need to claim. I am a bomb. If somebody kills me, they die. I do not have any special bulletproof or "two-life" ability, so I'm assuming nobody's tried to kill me yet. I'm not sure whether my ability flat out kills them or just removes one life, but that issue may be moot since there may not be a "two-life" killer out there.

Convenient. Nobody will want to hammer if they end up dying because of it.

unvote vote Suspect - I will investigate Ace again tonight and we can lynch him tomorrow if I get scum again. Meanwhile, we can dispose of a SK.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:22 am

A game with 2 town, 3 cult members, 2 mafia members, and a serial killer? Not likely.

I am a "noble theif", I take someone's night power and then return it in the morning. Yes I am third party, and yes I am a survivor. Night 1 I took GA7's, Night 2 I took PMC's.

How convient you are a bomb Ace. I doubt it, but nice claim. Just to check, I am going to take your power tonight, so if there is a serial killer, he can kill you freely.

If you read why I agreed with stroop, I must have mis read him. I even explained my misreadings to CW:

Suspect101 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:wait so did ace come up as town or scum, since I thought you thought you were insane.


pmc was insane, and only found GA7 to be scum because Godfathers come up as town, therefore they look like scum to the insane.


If you are not certain about your readings, then you are not certain about any of them, which menas they all might be wrong. except mine, I am third party.

I do not think you are town. I think you are lying. I think stroop is the cult leader and recruited Ace last night.

unvote vote stroop


If you read my posts after that I explained my answer.
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:02 am

This is all very confusing, and I think that paul is sort of escaping any speculation unfairly. Didn't he still come up third party?
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Re: Winner Mafia 3 *Days 3*

Postby Suspect101 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:05 am

captainwalrus wrote:This is all very confusing, and I think that paul is sort of escaping any speculation unfairly. Didn't he still come up third party?


here is the thing. If you read stroop and Ace's posts this will become obvious:

There are two cult members left. Going after a third party with 5 players left is silly. This would give the win to the cult, which is what they are trying to do. lynch a third party, inducted new member, cult win. Even if they don't inducted a new member cult win. Just getting rid of third party gives them a majority.

Ace claims bomb so noone would hammer him. Stroop unvoted so incase no one believes Ace, which they shouldn't, he would not get lynched.

Lynching me gives the cult the win.
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