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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 8:22 am

Incandenza wrote:first, I'd be about 95% inclined to think that Selin is town, mostly because of how a mafia game tends to run. People tend to assume that people that stick out (active posters like wicked, aggressive posters like Ank, whatever) are mafia, and I can't imagine that aimless would've saddled a mafia role with the rhyming thing. I suppose it's possible that Selin is a survivor or a jester (or whatever that role is where you want to get lynched), but I don't buy the scum thing.

And the two methods of nightkill (beaten to death and the mysterious black quarrel) bear looking at. It may not matter, but I would speculate that the shooter of the aforementioned quarrel is Guy of Guisborne, who tends to be something of a sidekick to the Sheriff. (viewers of the costner movie will recall michael wincott's not-too-shabby turn in that role)... I would further speculate that Guy is a Vigilante...

Just a couple of things to work with. I too would like to hear from exile, and I suppose I should buckle down now and read... :D


A little off topic from my main argument, but in passing this post on page 84, I can't help but to notice Incandenza defending 2 known scum and a third who I personally think is scum and defending no one else...
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Postby Aegnor on Tue May 22, 2007 8:39 am

Well I must say that Selin was next on my list to follow, but seeing that Exile was killed this night (It was pretty predictable), I might not live long enough to reveal his true nature. Which is a shame, since we could probably figure out if the "changing sides after day 3" theory was worth anything.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 8:41 am

Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:If we have another doctor, please protect Exile tonight...

Beyond that... Selin, you really did sorta screw that up... I wonder if you are here to help the town out at all... Maybe your job is to innocuously screw the town over.



if there is another doctor
better don't protect exile
because that will mean I'm right
revealing lying exile

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When I first read that on my read through, I thought maybe either I was wrong about Selin, or Anarkist and Selin were distancing unnecessarily. But the following two posts tell a different story...

Selin wrote:
Selin wrote:it was aegnor himself who claimed
what he did yesterday night
and in above post it was you
who said "yes" to aegnor, right?

so it is nonsense to say me
that i revealed your role here
everybody could think of that
you don't need to be a seer

actually you didn't answer
why did you post "vote aegnor"
do you try to get rid of him?
is that why you voted for?

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Aimless,
sorry not to write this post as a poem, but i realized that i mistakenly overwrote my second post on day 2, replacing the former poem with the post above. In order not to mislead all players who haven't read my former post, I have to explain it. So, below you will find the summary of my second post on day 2:

I quoted Exile's post that votes Aegnor for being scum and wrote a poem stating: Aegnor did claim his role on day 1 and said he is a tracker. And on day 2 he said that he tracked you (exile) and found out that you visited autoload. And then you said that he is right, so you verified him. However knowing Aegnor says the truth, you voted Aegnor, which made you scummy in my eyes.

I also voted The1exile for that in my former post . Here is it again:

Vote: The1exile


Anarkistsdream wrote:That changes my mind...

Unvote
Vote: the1exile


Now the scum are on the same page.
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Postby Aegnor on Tue May 22, 2007 8:44 am

Ack! Nice catch Auto. I would have followed Selin this night instead of pancake, had he not gone all scummy-looking with his strange peasant claim.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 8:51 am

Anarkistsdream wrote:Actually, what is the current vote count?

I would like to see where each individual is at in terms of votes.


In hindsight this was funny. Who did he want to bandwagon?
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 9:14 am

Anarkistsdream wrote:Spiesr, Dwight, Willis, and Hecter are the ones who post the least and who- when they do post- have nothing inventive or intelligent to say.


This doesn't necessarily clear these people, but it greatly helps convey a town like image for these guys...
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 9:40 am

Incandenza wrote:If domination acceptably claims town, then we go after speisr or dwight next. But we'll have to pick one, since I don't think we'll have the time to repeat this process twice more.


Two of the aforementioned targets of the confirmed mafia scum Anarkist...
Not making Incandenza look very good...
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Postby Aegnor on Tue May 22, 2007 9:57 am

I'm not sure about Incandenza, as Dwight and Spiesr look kind of scummy to me. Dwight never said more than 3 words in his posts, while Spiesr never said anything that hasn't been said before him. They both seem like legitimate suspects to me. Of course Dwight was just being a noob and was replaced for that.
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Postby XenHu on Tue May 22, 2007 10:08 am

Hmmm.

Interesting. Nice theories Auto. Moz, I think, is clear for now, because he is away on weekends, and that can be proven.

autoload wrote:
Incandenza wrote:If domination acceptably claims town, then we go after speisr or dwight next. But we'll have to pick one, since I don't think we'll have the time to repeat this process twice more.


Two of the aforementioned targets of the confirmed mafia scum Anarkist...
Not making Incandenza look very good...


I'm not so sure. The people listed are submarining, and it could be that Incandenza just wants them gone or replaced, like most of us townies. Of course, you are right, the fact that AD also echoed the same names as Incandenza doesn't make things look good for him.

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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:08 am

Here are the final vote counts the last two days...

On Day One Aimless wrote:Final Vote Count
Aegnor - 6 (got tonkaed, pancakemix, The1exile, jnd, XenHu, Guilty_Biscuit)
mandalorian - 13 (wicked, AK_Iceman, spinwizard, hecter, Aegnor, willis, Selin, dominationnation, Anarkistsdream, for dummies, LSU Tiger Josh, mandalorian, XenHu)
Selin - 5 (spiesr, dwightschrute, autoload, Ehriggn, moz)

With 13 votes, you have lynched mandalorian, Maid Marian (Roleblocker).



Aimless wrote:Vote Count
Aegnor - 1 (The1exile)
LSU Tiger Josh - 1 (dominationnation)
dominationnation - 2 (spiesr, I GOT SERVED)
spiesr - 12 (got tonkaed, Incandenza, moz, XenHu, willis, Aegnor, autoload, LSU Tiger Josh, for dummies, Anarkistsdream, Selin, pancakemix)

Not Voting - 6

With 12 votes, spiesr has been lynched!


People on both Lynches (higher than usual suspect in bold): Aegnor, willis, Selin, Anarkistsdream, for dummies, LSU Tiger Josh, and XenHu.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:11 am

OK, here is a voting record of Anarkist:

Anarkistsdream 14 May 2007 14:25 wrote:Vote: LSU
Anarkistsdream 14 May 2007 16:54 wrote:Unvote Vote: Spiesr

Anarkistsdream 16 May 2007 09:36 wrote:Unvote
Vote: Dominationnation


Anarkistsdream 16 May 2007 18:09 wrote:Why does everyone keep unvoting???

What good does that do us??? So that it can just take longer? You guys really think DN is gonna pull some revelation from his arse and astound you all???

C'mon... Get real.
That was funny.



Aimless wrote:Vote Count
Aegnor - 1 (The1exile)
The1exile - 1 (Selin)
dwightschrute - 1 (Aegnor)
LSU Tiger Josh - 3 (spinwizard, pancakemix, dominationnation)
dominationnation - 9 (got tonkaed, spiesr, Guilty_Biscuit, Anarkistsdream, XenHu, I GOT SERVED, willis, Incandenza, LSU Tiger Josh)

Not Voting - 7


Take note on who was on dominationnation's bandwagon.
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Tue May 22, 2007 10:18 am

You just wish you could be like me, Auto. 8)
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:20 am

AK_iceman wrote:Vote-moz

I have a theory on why the night phase lasted so long, and I'm 80% sure I'm correct. :wink:


moz976 wrote:So what is your theory AK? My guess would be that it has something to do with me not being online during the weekends. Is that right?


I agree with moz. Mainly for Rule 14 as follows:
14. Each game ā€˜night’ will not last more than 72 hours. I will remind all those who have night choices when the deadline is near. If at the end of the 72 hours I have not received your night choice, you will have lost your choice action (I.E. for mafia, there would be a ā€˜no kill’, etc).


Aimless will not hold up the game because some scum didn't get his night choice submitted in time.

FoS: AK_iceman
I'm dangerously close to voting you my friend.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:21 am

Selin wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:Vote-moz

I have a theory on why the night phase lasted so long, and I'm 80% sure I'm correct. :wink:


for dummies wrote:and can you tell us said theory? or are we supposed to vote for him just on your say so?


until we have better clues here
i will follow your logic
for dummies, it should be clear why
because that's not a magic


Vote: moz

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The fact that Selin agreed with you makes it look even worse...
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Tue May 22, 2007 10:26 am

Wow.

Excellent detetive work auto. You have made clear that Narc and Incandenza both look incredibly scummy, which is a pretty believeable case.

As for AK, auto did point out that bit in the rules with the time. This clears moz in by book. It does make AK look scummy, but not nearly as much as Narc and Incandenza.
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Tue May 22, 2007 10:27 am

I GOT SERVED wrote:Wow.

Excellent dectetive work auto. You have made it clear that Narc and Incandenza both look incredibly scummy, which is a pretty believeable case.

As for AK, auto did point out that bit in the rules with the time. This clears moz in by book. It does make AK look scummy, but not nearly as much as Narc and Incandenza.


Sorry, that last post had terrible english. Just needed to fix it up a bit.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:28 am

Aegnor wrote:I'm not sure about Incandenza, as Dwight and Spiesr look kind of scummy to me. Dwight never said more than 3 words in his posts, while Spiesr never said anything that hasn't been said before him. They both seem like legitimate suspects to me. Of course Dwight was just being a noob and was replaced for that.


But in hindsight knowing now for sure that spieser was town... And no post dwight played a classic case of the "I don't know what to post" blues.

Incandenza is a minor candidate anyways. I just wanted to put it out in case anyone else saw something and just didn't think it was big enough at the time to post.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 10:45 am

spinwizard wrote:
the1exile wrote:spinwizard playes the part of a pesent well


OI! LOL i can spell fine! :twisted:

erm...ank is being normal...FOS-Auto for pushing the mistake too far


This was from page 3 when spinwizard FoSed me for questioning anarkist's Freudian slip too far. I noticed in my entire Day Two reread that everytime spinwizard would come in and put in his worthless, two cent, one line opinion, that not a single person would even acknowledge the content of his post. It's like spinwizard is in this game, but we can't see him. Of course this is attributed to the fact that spinwizard is wrong about 100% of the time he is town. But seeing as how I was pressuring the now known scum anarkist so early and getting him angry, spin was the one to FoS me. As stated before, that FoS was completely ignored because it came from spinwizard.

FoS: spinwizard
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Postby spinwizard on Tue May 22, 2007 10:51 am

i got the 2/3 scum right on the ship in your game in the first day!!! just knowone listened to me!,

at that point in this game i was thinking that we need to follow a good path (taliking) and not pushing a minor mistake.
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Postby The1exile on Tue May 22, 2007 10:53 am

Anarkistsdream, Will Scarlett, shot with a black quarrel.


Not so fast with your daggers NOW are ya matey!

GG all, I'm going to keep watching from, beyond the grave.
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Postby wicked on Tue May 22, 2007 10:57 am

*shoots arrow from behind tree at spin and pokes his eye out* :twisted:
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 11:00 am

On Page 74 mandalorian2298 wrote:
wicked wrote:No Mandy, you said your WC didn't match Aeg's. All I'll ask is nobles compare theirs to Aeg's stated one, which Mandy didn't agree with.


And, I specified that Aegnor's imaginery one (standard for Vanilla Townies world wide, though it may be) states that he has to eliminate "threats", while I and (every other Noble, I dare add) knows that there is only one threat to this Kingdom: Locksley and his Hoods!

The sad thing here is that many of the "players" will skim, mumble "Same all, same all." importantly to their beard (if they have one) and then either say nothing or WHINE about the longness of the Day. Rare are thos who will simply connect your posts in your posts in the last few pages with tonka's allegations about your Scumy Tactics and realize that if I was telling the truth about you there is no reason that I am not telling it about Aegnor.


What say you about the quoted post above Aegnor? At the time that post was made, everyone was so sick of Mandy that I think it got passed over. Why did you say threats instead of threat? Pretty convincing now that we know Mandy wasn't a Merry Man if you ask me...

Recap: My main target today for a Lynch is AK. Mainly because he and Anarkist both vehemently urged the rest of us to disregard Mandy's theories. His theories of course being that AK, wicked and Aegnor are scum. He was right about wicked...

Don't totally rely on my work. Even I'm not totally convinced that I am right. I have a feeling that all that I posted will be forgotten about by the time the Archery Tourney is winding down anyways. I await the reply of those who I questioned.
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Postby autoload on Tue May 22, 2007 11:05 am

spinwizard wrote:i got the 2/3 scum right on the ship in your game in the first day!!! just knowone listened to me!,

at that point in this game i was thinking that we need to follow a good path (taliking) and not pushing a minor mistake.


My ship only started with 2 scum. And anyone can get a lucky guess. You can keep deluding yourself about your mafia skills spin, but I have modded enough games with you to know better.

Hell, I challenge anyone to read your last 10 posts in this game and show me something original that you came up with...
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Postby spinwizard on Tue May 22, 2007 11:06 am

good point, not happy about the insult tho!
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Postby wicked on Tue May 22, 2007 11:13 am

autoload wrote:You can keep deluding yourself about your mafia skills spin, but I have modded enough games with you to know better.

Hell, I challenge anyone to read your last 10 posts in this game and show me something original that you came up with...


QFT!! :lol:
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