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Who is the MVP?

Poll ended at Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:54 pm

the white rose
5
33%
Metsfanmax
1
7%
Iron Butterfly
0
No votes
AladdinSane
7
47%
madmitch
1
7%
/ aka Slash
1
7%
Rishaed
0
No votes
other (by post)
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 15

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (27/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:25 pm

Streaker wrote:
"But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness"


It was a restless night. While most players tried to get some sleep, it was hard finding any because loud voices were heard during the entire night.
That was not all that happened. The villagers could feel the effect of the -4 votes fade away, and something new settle in it's place. They couldn't quite define what it was just yet, but they would find out soon enough anyway. A mailman was also spotted coming into the town. Where was he going?
Near the town, the Apple Orchard seemed almost ready for the harvest.


As the sun came up, a body was discovered in the town center: Marashu, Town Insane Cop, has been found dead.



Mentions both

Madmitch was imo referring to day 1 when you got hotshot lynched imo.

Ib you are tunneling on something useless
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:29 pm

Additionally madmitch could be a 3rd party jester that gifts
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (26/28) Day 2 - BASTARD COP

Postby degaston on Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:33 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
madmitch wrote:Well it looks like I.B. might have got his message from the mailman, I wonder how many new messages went out ? and who the mailman is? ;) The orchard is right for a fruit vendor and I wonder what that will cost ? This day is already being a nice cheerful and informative day . :D


This is the second post of day two where Mitch knew about my gift.

He did not say gift, package, present, or any other wording to indicate that it was an object as opposed to information. He was talking about your information on HotShot from D1. And if LSU was the inventor of your 8-ball, as he claimed, why would Mitch be the one to deliver it. You're being very thick about this.

Iron Butterfly wrote:The Orchard was not mentioned nor apples till a day later.
What the hell is wrong with you? The Apple Orchard was mentioned in the D2 opening scene!
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:01 pm

I agree. I read to much into it. :oops:
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby AladdinSane on Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:30 pm

Marashu wrote:The bad news is, I don't have much in the way of info for checks. N1 the mods didn't send me a result (and it would not have mattered, since I investigated Skoffin). I did NOT know that I was insane, so I likely would have redchecked the town doc. N2 I did not get a check, because I was quite dead.

So, def no confermashun of Storr as Town frum you, then. Conferms wot we orl new awreddy: Mitch was lying wen he pretended to be Deputy and to have inherited yer resolts.

Marashu wrote:I am allowed to use all the info I remember from dead chat, which is really just finding out more from Sausage about what his role was, finding out that HotShot was, in fact, a cult recruiter (so IB did help town with that one), and finding out what the deal is with the apples, kinda (mods gave everyone an apple, and those who ate them got random things happening, some good, some bad). It did not reveal the alignment of any living players, sadly.


I get dat you cood chat wit HotSausage and WhatShot wile ded, but why wood teh ded have privileged info about teh "deel wit teh appuls"?

And Mar, why so quite sinse yer return to teh land of teh living? Who are yer curent skum picks? [/quote]

Marashu wrote:At the moment, I am in favour of a mass claim.


Why? Do you tink it has dun eny good fer Town?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:38 pm

Uggg I had a long reply typed here and lost it somehow with my stupid browser changing pages.

I don't want to hear another damn thing about Mitch and the orchard and mailman. We've wasted too much time on that crap and I'm sick of it.

I'm not thrilled with the raising of our insane cop. If he kept that power, than that is a great thing for town though. I did warn about it being a possible zombie before storr did it. I wouldn't say it was necessarily an anti town move since that would be nice to have a known sanity cop giving out reads.

Mason groups traditionally are pro town, but I've been in games in the past where there were members of both sides in the same mason group. It made it a pain in the ass for town to figure out since they would clear each other. It's probably a great thing for town that PCM was modkilled because in my opinion he had a very powerful role. He could've used his role to try to lead us on wild goose chases by pushing his mason buddies to go after what he knew were non mafia members. Seeing how he was modkilled for inactivity, I'm assuming he did not take advantage of his ability to do this.

Whoever made the gun may have the same issues I have and had a defective gun with "opposite" meant results where the wound is not killing anything. My other guess concerning Mitch is a real bastard of a role where he is "unkillable" other than via a lynch. Being that this is a bastard game, I would not rule this out.

Right now for today I would be ok with any of the following being lynched:
Falco
Players
DJ
Rizky
Virus
Mets

Unvote Vote DJ although I would be ok with switching it to any of the ones listed for a lynch if there is enough push for them
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:07 pm

pressure falco more imo. he hasn't claimed. after claim, dj might be an ok place to start.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby Falkomagno on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:21 pm

Well, it seems that regardless my opinion, there is a mass claim already in place. I am a Vanilla Townie.

I think is easy to assume that all of the VT claimed, received the exactly same message. I think is easy to find out how is lying, for example, asking each of us to say which one is the 5th (or whatever) word in the message. If the person fails to say the right one, we can lynch.

Otherwise, I think the pcm mod kill can give us some light light. I think mets was related to him somehow, but I dont have time to check the whole thread. Maybe an iso of PCM to see if he was scum protecting somebody?

Next week i will be in another continent, so i will have limited access to the game. I will keep in the loop nevertheless.

by now i think we can go for DJ or player, also madmitch is not a bad lynch.

vote DJ
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:27 pm

why either of those people falkomagno? is it because the names have been thrown around? have anything new to add to the conversation?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby / on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:31 pm

Falkomagno wrote:I think is easy to assume that all of the VT claimed, received the exactly same message. I think is easy to find out how is lying, for example, asking each of us to say which one is the 5th (or whatever) word in the message. If the person fails to say the right one, we can lynch.

Doubt the mods will allow it, but we can ask them first. I'd definitely modkill a player for it.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:44 pm

Falkomagno wrote:Otherwise, I think the pcm mod kill can give us some light light. I think mets was related to him somehow, but I dont have time to check the whole thread. Maybe an iso of PCM to see if he was scum protecting somebody?


I'm not sure what's to be gained unfortunately. I had pcm marked as minor scum due to some of the things he had posted and also what I thought was pretty serious scummarining. But now that it turns out he was just AWOL then it's hard to infer anything. My read on him turned out to be correct (luck, really) but as I said when I claimed, my investigation on him didn't clear him at all.

by now i think we can go for DJ or player, also madmitch is not a bad lynch.

vote DJ


What is your reasoning for voting DJ? This seems like blatant bandwagoning to me, and frankly the wagon isn't that strong -- the basis for this push was Storr getting angry at DJ's lack of useful contribution. But lack of useful contribution doesn't make someone scum. Storr is throwing this game because he can't get over his ego enough, unfortunately. But while that's very classic Storr, you aren't giving your own reasoning here, which is suspicious.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:51 pm

@ mets, because i don't want my opinion to be a large influence on the direction this day takes. I was a large voice last day on who the lynch was. I have a check on me, and raised a confirmed town. I'm gathering information. Rest assured im going to lead the lynch today, yet i wan't peoples thoughts on "possible" lynches now. Care to give some direction?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:14 am

what does the rest of sausages role mean, 'compulsive global effect 'inventor'? did he maybe give the gun to deg or was he just playing with the votes and thats it?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:44 am

It simply means he invented global patterns that effect everyone.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby DJPatrick on Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:46 am

Hi guys, good to see you ALL love me so much but riddle me this: both Storr & Monkey Man advise against a vote on the non-contributing players yet both agree on a vote on me because " I don't contribute in a meaningful way(or words to that effect)"...I claimed Town long before others were bullied into it...(and Monkey man knew and deflected with usual bullshit that I was a Serial Killer)...My view is that there is a trio of players two of who are Mafia...they are the Monkey man, Storr and Alladin...my best guestimate is that Storr IS Town but just thick as two planks...Alladin: don't know, if he is Mafia he (and Monkey) are playing a great-albeit risky- game....Wing? Guilty as Fark...a good rope today will help this town!!!
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:07 am

probably another stupid question but Lsu's sweater was supposed to reveal alignment but it was reversed and revealed his alignment instead.... so what saved storr if he was supposedly sacrificing himself and the sweater was only about alignment?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:16 am

the people i was leaning suspicious on earlier came out with helpful roles... rish i was wondering about because D1 he wanted to get claims out of more ppl but then D2 he was against the claims, but he is claiming jailer...and benga well he wasn't posting much, was skimming and made a weak case and voted pt N1... but he is going with retired cop and was right about sausage so he is off the list too...

my vote is currently on falko who i was also suspicious of early firstly because of his total absence D1 and first appearance during the night and then because of his vote for pt after he claimed.. but he pointed out pancakes lack of posts and later voted for a pancake modkill im guessing if he was scum he probably wouldn't have done that unless it was purely for town cred figuring he would get lynched anyway..
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby Ragian on Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:23 am

Falkomagno wrote:What do you think about this spreading of people that now are writing with typos? did you notice that besides aladdin and catch, also ragian is now writing like this?

Did you notice that I posted why? And can you make out which lettew is giving me a hawd time?

Oh well, Wing didn't see it eithew. I'll wepeat as only Aladdin picked up the info: I ate the apple and broke my tooth. Now, cawwy on! It doesn't mattew.

degaston wrote:I received a gun on N1 that kind of turned me a into day vig, but the gun didn't work as expected, and it turned out to be one-shot.

I was wesponsible for that. Did you not wead the Lincoln quote attached to it? It wasn't a gun as such. You should think more Staw Twek: It had the oppowtunity to pawalyze, wound, and kill. Obviously, wounding wouldn't wesult in killing as the thiwd option would have been wedundant then. By wounding mitch, you jailed him. I chose you because you gave out a townie vibe D1 in my opinion. However, the kill option was a suicidal one as thewe was the possibility of me handing something to scum. Hence the Lincoln quote. I figuwed that if scum had gotten the gun, they would've use the kill option (and killed themselves in the pwocess).

N2, I gave Benga a little something-something.

Anyway, I'm town inventow and I can invent anything, but I have to correspond with the mod to balance out stuff.

PLAYER57832 wrote:Storr looking pretty scummy to me now, why else decide to lynch me, even when its pretty obvious I am town.


Why is it obvious that you awe town?

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degaston wrote:I received a gun on N1 that kind of turned me a into day vig, but the gun didn't work as expected, and it turned out to be one-shot.


I mite have missed sumthing, but dident teh gun have "kill", "woond", and "paralize" seetings, and you chose "wound"?

Firt, it sounds like it performed eggactly as adverttised. Secund, why dident you set your fazer to "kill"? If you hadev, Mitch wood be ded by now and we wood know teh truth about him.


See! He gets me! Should I be wowwied? :shock:

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I feel the LSU list is a decent list. I'm on board there.

Why are people voting storr, though? Is it because there's a possibility that his role could be scum? Most roles could be scum roles. You need to look at play. I don't see storr's play as anti-town.

FP'ed by rizky. I agree on Falko.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:38 am

im not really sure why you are obviously town either player? i dont really see where wing went heavily after you and now that we know the flip of pancake you jumping on IBs post about looking at the ppl who voted to kill the inactives so quickly seems a little suspicious..
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby AladdinSane on Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:36 am

DJPatrick wrote:my best guestimate is that Storr IS Town but just thick as two planks


Ragian wrote:Why are people voting storr, though? Is it because there's a possibility that his role could be scum? Most roles could be scum roles. You need to look at play. I don't see storr's play as anti-town.


I have to admit dat DJP's asesment of Storr is wun dat I considdered orso. Teh Zergster is a raging egomayniac fer shore, and his ego is giving him a hardon to wanna play teh mods and brake teh game, even if it risks screwing teh game fer Town. It's just dat wen I red teh MafiaScum.net bit on Revivers, I straitaway had teh feeling dat we had walked into a trap by going along wit teh massclaim.

Teh massclaim itself seems like a reely bad idee becorse we dident get eny moor Docs or Cops anounsing demselfs, and we had sevral power rolls eggsposed. So, where eggsposed, aparently witout mutch in teh way of perteckshun. I'm hoping their ARE moor docs and cops out their, only dey had teh good sense to stay low. If their arnt, we cood be in reel trubble: Marashu's current cop status is verry uncertin imo and, even if we have moor cops, if I get NKed dey wont be eny use.

Dat, together wit teh news dat, in a reveal game, those Revived are usually not good fer Town just made Storr's revival of Marashu look verry verry anti-Town to me. But maybe DJP has nailed it: maybe Storr is just thik.

Teh other faktor for me is dat Storr's play seems teh scummiest out of teh remaining feeld of playas, aside frum perhaps Wing. Shore, their are others who have been to quite, but dat dozent seem particly alinement-indickative, at leest in dis game: Out of orl teh modkills fer inaktivity so far, orl but wun have been Town. However, Falko does seem scummy to me now - I've awreddy sed why.

I'll tink about it moor befoor doing anyfink wit my vote, but mite end up changing to Wing or Falko sinse it wood be a pity to acidentaly linch a Town, even a thik narsississtic (sp?) wun. DJP I wood consider, but as i've sed awreddy sevral times, he has teh dubius gift of appeering scummy, even wen he's not.

I'm a bit supprised dat sevral playas have been criticul of massclaim but don't see a posssibul sinister motive behind it. I won't push teh idee of Storr as scum if peepul arnt seeing it, but I shore as hell will be shouting "I told you so" frum teh rooftops if we get screwed over and I was rite orl along.

NOTE: In seperate news, I fergot to PM teh mods about clarifying my power until dis evenin (Saterday, my time), so eggspect to heer sumtink maybe Monday, CCT.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:48 am

DJPatrick wrote:Hi guys, good to see you ALL love me so much but riddle me this: both Storr & Monkey Man advise against a vote on the non-contributing players yet both agree on a vote on me because " I don't contribute in a meaningful way(or words to that effect)"...I claimed Town long before others were bullied into it...(and Monkey man knew and deflected with usual bullshit that I was a Serial Killer)...My view is that there is a trio of players two of who are Mafia...they are the Monkey man, Storr and Alladin...my best guestimate is that Storr IS Town but just thick as two planks...Alladin: don't know, if he is Mafia he (and Monkey) are playing a great-albeit risky- game....Wing? Guilty as Fark...a good rope today will help this town!!!


incorrect, advised against voting inactive players. do you consider yourself an inactive player?

Care to talk about someone else? storr/aladdin, wing, ib, have been talked to death.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:50 am

After the argument u made earlier about storr being smart and experienced I'm not sure why u would agree with DJ now.. I actually liked ur post about reviver and it makes sense that he could be scum and reviver and brought back mars knowing that he would be on his side whilst looking towny in the process but I'm not sure why pt would get a town read then surely he couldn't be godfather and reviver..

As for the inventors is it weird we have 2 is one more than likely mafia aligned?

Fpd by storr
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby StorrZerg on Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:54 am

rizky_biznezz wrote:probably another stupid question but Lsu's sweater was supposed to reveal alignment but it was reversed and revealed his alignment instead.... so what saved storr if he was supposedly sacrificing himself and the sweater was only about alignment?


the magic 8 ball ib got didn't fail, gave a different result. doesn't mean that it didn't work on me.


@rizky why bring back a town now that im going to have to kill again if im scum. Even if he was converted, it be a lot simpler to avoid claiming, keep lynching non mafia, then just raise someone to insta end the game to make mafia = to town. Secondly ask yourself, have my actions impacted town negatively. you won't know about marashu for at least a day or more. And he has been gravely inactive so he might just be mod killed.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (20/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby rizky_biznezz on Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:01 am

I'm not saying j believe it right now and I'm not voting u its just not like Aladdin to give up so easily... And after something DJ said no less lol
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death

Postby degaston on Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:07 am

Ragian wrote:
degaston wrote:I received a gun on N1 that kind of turned me a into day vig, but the gun didn't work as expected, and it turned out to be one-shot.

I was wesponsible for that. Did you not wead the Lincoln quote attached to it? It wasn't a gun as such. You should think more Staw Twek: It had the oppowtunity to pawalyze, wound, and kill. Obviously, wounding wouldn't wesult in killing as the thiwd option would have been wedundant then. By wounding mitch, you jailed him. I chose you because you gave out a townie vibe D1 in my opinion. However, the kill option was a suicidal one as thewe was the possibility of me handing something to scum. Hence the Lincoln quote. I figuwed that if scum had gotten the gun, they would've use the kill option (and killed themselves in the pwocess).

What was I supposed to conclude from that quote even if I had realized it was by Lincoln, and I was "thinking Star Trek"?

Would the kill option also have killed the target?
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