New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[karelpietertje]

ga7 - some form of teacher?
Theherkman - leader of a power group of sorts?
saxlad (revived to replace pmcshugh) - lyncher (do not trust)
TA1LGUNNER - town/role unknown
Floresdelmal - town/role unknown
commander - local gunsmith - proved himself to be town
karelpieterje - unknown
nagerous - pro-town hero!
/ - unknown
stefunny - unknown gun carrier (very suspicious)
naxus - some form of watcher? helped on the VS lynch
thezzaruz - unknown
strike wolf - some kind of actor, appears to be town

Okay I'm done with a little update on nagerous's list.
I posted some links after all names for everyone to see what posts that person made in this thread (or posts in other threads in which they say.

Alive Players:
ga7
supposed recruiting mason(posts in this thread)

Theherkman
supposed superhero group leader(posts in this thread)

thesaxlad
claimed cop <-- I was about to make a case against SaxLad for his weird claim (after all, why would he claim it like that. also it's a weird role), then saw that nagerous had a weird acting deputy, according to the night scene. Sax is basically claiming this role. counterclaims are welcome if he's an imposter.(posts in this thread)

Floresdelmal
somewhat investigative role - knows who targets him(posts in this thread)

commander9
gunsmith(posts in this thread)

karelpietertje
unknown(posts in this thread)

/
unknown(posts in this thread)

naxus
town (outed by ga7)/role unknown(posts in this thread)

thezzaruz
unknown (posts in this thread)

strike wolf
town (outed by Mr. Squirrel (for what that's worth)), supposed actor(posts in this thread)

Missing anything?

[Commander9]

Nice - another kill by the doctor with a scalpel. I'm almost sure that Vio was also killed by him rather than dying because he aage did. Awesome, just awesome.

Sadly, I can only share my suspicions at this time as my searches have been rather fruitless tonight.

[TheSaxlad]

herk has been maintaining this team rocket idea, its worked out well for him. But is it just an Illusion? imma beginning to think with all these deaths that herk is mounting something pretty severe. Yeah kill of some townies. to cover our asses.

Could it be that rockets win condition is when all other parties have been neutralised. Town and mafia alike?

A Third Mafia?

[karelpietertje]

Nice - another kill by the doctor with a scalpel. I'm almost sure that Vio was also killed by him rather than dying because he aage did. Awesome, just awesome.

Sadly, I can only share my suspicions at this time as my searches have been rather fruitless tonight.

Did you get roleblocked or did you not find a gun? An outed townie would not be 'fruitless', nor would the info of a roleblocker still being active.

[TheSaxlad]

ebwop, with only 3 players unknown, someone must be lying about their role, because theres not enough for normal townies, herks supergroup and mafia...

[ga7]

Commander, could we have a rundown of your actions? Even if you didn't find a gun somewhere, the fact you didn't is useful at this point.
We're likely missing only one scum, unless the mafia had an extra GF. I notice a big difference between the Violet scene where there's CPR marks and the gruesome scenes where the psycho doc kills, so maybe there are two different roles? Herk should know better about what actions his CPR took anyway, it'd be nice to clear that up.
Btw I didn't out Naxus, he claimed back in day 3. Unfortunately Spiesr was enabler so no more info on that side.
Seeing your list Karel I assume you're fine with your unknown status... It makes me wonder if Team Rocket has 2 or 3 members remaining at this point; because if it's 3 you guys would leave only one suspect. Either way Herk should point someone that isn't part of it amongst / Karel and Thezz.

[strike wolf]

@strike wolf: theherkman has already openly stated that the CPR doctor is in his Team Rocket.

We aren't t}king about the cpr doc. We're talking about the scalpal man. Cause the scalpal man can (yes that is a willy wonka reference).

When he failed to kill jace herk mentioned that he should have used his other killing role. I believe that the scalpal man is that role.

[strike wolf]

@strike wolf: theherkman has already openly stated that the CPR doctor is in his Team Rocket.

We aren't talking about the cpr doc. We're talking about the scalpal man. Cause the scalpal man can (yes that is a willy wonka reference).

When he failed to kill jace herk mentioned that he should have used his other killing role. I believe that the scalpal man is that role.

[strike wolf]

Commander, could we have a rundown of your actions? Even if you didn't find a gun somewhere, the fact you didn't is useful at this point.
We're likely missing only one scum, unless the mafia had an extra GF. I notice a big difference between the Violet scene where there's CPR marks and the gruesome scenes where the psycho doc kills, so maybe there are two different roles? Herk should know better about what actions his CPR took anyway, it'd be nice to clear that up.
Btw I didn't out Naxus, he claimed back in day 3. Unfortunately Spiesr was enabler so no more info on that side.
Seeing your list Karel I assume you're fine with your unknown status... It makes me wonder if Team Rocket has 2 or 3 members remaining at this point; because if it's 3 you guys would leave only one suspect. Either way Herk should point someone that isn't part of it amongst / Karel and Thezz.

Sounds logical to me. If we were to believe everything herk says. That group either is missing a regular doctor or would have 4 roles.

1. Regular doc
2. Scalpal man-dangerous
3. Cpr doc-dangerous when misused
4. Mysterious investigative role-probably herk blowing smoke but if not I have an idea who it could be...

I have my doubts the specifics of herk's group but I don't think his group could be the mafia at this point for various reasons so most I think is him blowing smoke just to confuse the mafia more than anything though its quite likely heerk himself could be the scalpal man.

[naxus]

So if karels list is correct then herk can confirm who of the three unknowns are scum. Im leaning towards / but thezz is likely also.Vote /

[TheSaxlad]

tbh, im more leaning to karel, he's been being so helpful to the town but has not claimed yet. Nice way to keep yourself underneath the radar.

Vote karel

[ga7]

Right, I had forgotten about the flavor cop role Herked talked about, but if it's real I'd assume that one could be coupled with another role since he was supposedly able to investigate once every two nights or something. I suppose Team Rocket really had 4 members then? The FBI group only had 3 so I didn't really expect it.

From what I can gather of Nagerous' previous investigations he had cleared Haggis night 3 (seeing as he wasn't suspicious of him then realized the possible GF powers) Flores night 4 and Tails night 5, no mention of anything for the first 2 nights.
Saxlad was a clear lyncher and usually lynchers become either survivor or town if their lynchee is NKed so we can leave that aside for now, it's likely he's telling the truth.

That means 6 confirmed town, 1 Saxlad, 2 team rocket confirmable and 1 scum suspect. Choice should be simple enough, let's get a move on my premie ran out and I have 25 clan members to feed

[TheSaxlad]

Right, I had forgotten about the flavor cop role Herked talked about, but if it's real I'd assume that one could be coupled with another role since he was supposedly able to investigate once every two nights or something. I suppose Team Rocket really had 4 members then? The FBI group only had 3 so I didn't really expect it.

From what I can gather of Nagerous' previous investigations he had cleared Haggis night 3 (seeing as he wasn't suspicious of him then realized the possible GF powers) Flores night 4 and Tails night 5, no mention of anything for the first 2 nights.
Saxlad was a clear lyncher and usually lynchers become either survivor or town if their lynchee is NKed so we can leave that aside for now, it's likely he's telling the truth.

That means 6 confirmed town, 1 Saxlad, 2 team rocket confirmable and 1 scum suspect. Choice should be simple enough, let's get a move on my premie ran out and I have 25 clan members to feed

1 saxlad?

[ga7]

Yes you're not confirmed like the rest so you get special treatment

[strike wolf]

Right, I had forgotten about the flavor cop role Herked talked about, but if it's real I'd assume that one could be coupled with another role since he was supposedly able to investigate once every two nights or something. I suppose Team Rocket really had 4 members then? The FBI group only had 3 so I didn't really expect it.

From what I can gather of Nagerous' previous investigations he had cleared Haggis night 3 (seeing as he wasn't suspicious of him then realized the possible GF powers) Flores night 4 and Tails night 5, no mention of anything for the first 2 nights.
Saxlad was a clear lyncher and usually lynchers become either survivor or town if their lynchee is NKed so we can leave that aside for now, it's likely he's telling the truth.

That means 6 confirmed town, 1 Saxlad, 2 team rocket confirmable and 1 scum suspect. Choice should be simple enough, let's get a move on my premie ran out and I have 25 clan members to feed

id have to reread to be sure but was under the impression that nag had investigated jace night 3 which is why we hadn't mentioned finding jace guilty before than.

Hopefully if all goes to plan your strategy outs the last mafia and we may not even have to deal with the scalpal man. But that's wishful thinking.

[Commander9]

Vioiet, Flores and Ga7 do not have guns. Sully, Haggis and Stefunny had guns.

If herkman is indeed pro-town, now he'll come out with his group and clear everything up. If he's not pro-town and doesn't do that, I think we know what we should do.

[strike wolf]

Just to note herk I do not think we need to know everything about team rocket just which two of the three unconfirmed are in your group.

[TheSaxlad]

Just to note herk I do not think we need to know everything about team rocket just which two of the three unconfirmed are in your group.

I think we do though.

It saves me having to cop them all. Now I can just hear what all their roles are.

simple.

[strike wolf]

Just to note herk I do not think we need to know everything about team rocket just which two of the three unconfirmed are in your group.

I think we do though.

It saves me having to cop them all. Now I can just hear what all their roles are.

simple.

Well most cops can't see a person's exact role. So I do not think it's worth giving the mafia, if they survive the day, more information to pick and choose who to kill based on their role. We're better off with mafia knowing who's in the group but not specifically who's who that way they have a much lower chance of hitting the most important member.

[TheSaxlad]

Just to note herk I do not think we need to know everything about team rocket just which two of the three unconfirmed are in your group.

I think we do though.

It saves me having to cop them all. Now I can just hear what all their roles are.

simple.

Well most cops can't see a person's exact role. So I do not think it's worth giving the mafia, if they survive the day, more information to pick and choose who to kill based on their role. We're better off with mafia knowing who's in the group but not specifically who's who that way they have a much lower chance of hitting the most important member.

Except for the role cop.

[FloresDelMal]

Okay, then there are a couple of things to consider. If Nag is town and as you say has cleared sax, what are the chances that both of them targeted the same townie? Coincidence? I do like your argument though, but I think that one of them must be mafia. Not both, but one of them. I was leaning towards tails several days ago. I think he should tell the town why he has been visiting you...

i never meant that nag cleared sax, if you read it like that is just because my punctuation was faulty, sorry, i think nag cleared tails, and if he is town i dont see why we should force a claim out of him, we have enough claimed townies as it is, and by the results of last night we dont have enough protections for all of them, so we push for out more roles?

anyway commander found a gun, and we know he is trustworthy so ill go ahead and vote stefunny

Wow, I am sorry. Meant Tails instead of Sax...

And we do have enough protection for claimed townies. And we have one more protect that can be used. The people who died were unclaimed townies or not high on our protect list. I think, at least... Anyway, VOTE STEFUNNY because of C9's recommendation.

And maybe iliad said he wasn't talking about that because he accidentally gave away too much info...

herk you sucks, why did you kill tails? *sighs* and overall why didnt you protect nag, ill read well afterwards because im busy and tired, so now im really skimming, but ill make a real post tomorrow or the day after :s

[theherkman]

Oh wow, lotz O post. Gonna' read now...

[theherkman]

Okay, read now. The only member of my group still alive is Karel. He is the CPR doc. I made up the flavor cop because you were getting suspicious of him yesterday. I wanted to just be able to say he was investigated by the flavor doc and not connect him with me. It seems we are at the end game so it doesn't matter. Karel is able to use 3 saves. 1 regular (me), 1 regular (himself), and one CPR kill (TBD). I am the enabler for medical roles. If I die, all docs lose their powers. Flow 520 was also in my group. He had 2 regular protects.

[theherkman]

So in summary we are left with / and thesaurus and maybe Sax. The mafia have only one kill per night.

[theherkman]

In the beginning, with many protects and a kill we were a good team rocket... Now we seem to have fallen by the wayside...