New Jedi Order Mafia MOZ & VONG WIN

[Neutrino]

God, some of you people can switch bandwagons quickly...

In light of Jnd's pseudo-roleclaim, I'll Unvote.
I'm not quite sure if Jnd is fully trustworthy or not, but I'll do tht re-reading I promised and see if I can find anything.

[Skoffin]

I go to sleep and during that time I get bandwagoned to half death, thought of as being possibly a mason, then again accused of being scum for being a mason? Sorry but uuhh.. wtf?
My last few posts have been saying that we have plenty of time so why rush with all the votes, and again people seem to be speeding through it.
Not sure how I'm supposed to defend myself anything short of a claim, as it's been said the main reason people are voting for me is lack of a better lead. Well, that and voting record. Which I should probably point out it wouldn't be the first time time I've gone a whole game without voting (althought honestly, I thought I had voted in here)

Urrr I forgot my other points. If there was anything more I was supposed to answer, can people just put it in point form? >>

[ga7]

Something just came to my mind... Does that mean you were part of the jedi apprentices group in the Hunt event Jnd?

Oh and @ Mandy for getting spoilers in his game

[ga7]

Hmm I'm having after thoughts cause it could still be bad to roleclaim, so let me phrase it differently.
Was your mission any related to the hunt setting-wise (as I suppose not only jedis & voxhyns scum could have been involved) or Mandy just happened to give you one during that?
This is a pretty important question as I came across something when rereading...

[Neutrino]

Ok, after a little rereading, I have come up with the following things:

1. Jnd didn't actually post that much, but he did vote in all the right places. Still, it is rather difficult to gague how much he should be believed.

2. The following are rather unlikely to be scum:
Wicked
ML
Huck
Selin
Syzygy

Reason: They all hopped on the AK 2.0 bandwagon before it really became a bandwagon (and two of them are known Jedi corpses)

3. I'm getting a little suspiscous of Skittles (AD). He (Skittles anyway, I'll checkup on AD's actions tomorrow, when I haven't been rereading old text for an hour and a half) has been more or less submarining all game. Also, he actively defended the expanding cloud of ionised gas formerly known as Exile (where I was merely ambivalent to the idea of lynching him).

For now I'll throw a FOS out at him, as it is always possible AD's actions will invalidate everything I said here.

[kalishnikov]

This is almost exactly what is was gonna say, except I was going to end with Vote: Neutrino.

As for the quick bandwagons, I think it's just for lack of any solid evidence. People are unsure so they just jump on whoever's being voted at the moment, also with the addition of the scum/indies jumping on just to get a lynch.

So wait... Let me get this straight, you bandwagon and then criticize people for bandwagoning.

Please point out to me where I'm criticizing people for bandwagoning? I was attempting to answer Talapus's statement. Criticizing and pointing something out are 2 different things.

[mandalorian2298]

VOTE COUNT

Skoffin (3) - Ga7, Fircoal, Tonka
Neutrino (4) - Jnd, Serbia, Nark, Kalish

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

[Fircoal]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

[Huckleberryhound]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

Scummyest thing i've seen for a while.

I can't see anything from serbia, or nark about bandwaggoning.

vote fircoal

[Fircoal]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

Scummyest thing i've seen for a while.

I can't see anything from serbia, or nark about bandwaggoning.

vote fircoal

>.< I meant more of the bandwagoners that criticized the SKoffin bandwagon and then bandwagoned Neut.

And that's the scummiest thing you've seen in a while? There were a lot more scummy things discussed in the thread. Or was it because I was the last poster.

[Huckleberryhound]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

Scummyest thing i've seen for a while.

I can't see anything from serbia, or nark about bandwaggoning.

vote fircoal

>.< I meant more of the bandwagoners that criticized the SKoffin bandwagon and then bandwagoned Neut.

And that's the scummiest thing you've seen in a while? There were a lot more scummy things discussed in the thread. Or was it because I was the last poster.

Quick question.

Your sig. It makes little sense to me.

Wo shi = i am

Ni de = and you ? (used to ask the same question after a response)

ma = an addition to represent a question

What is it supposed to say, and why does it not have a question mark ? tell me what you mean to say, and maybe i can give you the correct words (wo hui shuo yidian zhongwen)

[Huckleberryhound]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

Scummyest thing i've seen for a while.

I can't see anything from serbia, or nark about bandwaggoning.

vote fircoal

>.< I meant more of the bandwagoners that criticized the SKoffin bandwagon and then bandwagoned Neut.

And that's the scummiest thing you've seen in a while? There were a lot more scummy things discussed in the thread. Or was it because I was the last poster.

Quick question.

Your sig. It makes little sense to me.

Wo shi = i am

Ni de = and you ? (used to ask the same question after a response)

ma = an addition to represent a question

What is it supposed to say, and why does it not have a question mark ? tell me what you mean to say, and maybe i can give you the correct words (wo hui shuo yidian zhongwen)

my mistake, nide is your but it is not two words

[Fircoal]

I don't really have a reason to unvote at this time so I won't. Sure it wasn't that much proof but atm it was the most. Fos: Neutrino bandwagoners. You vote Neut for almost the same reasons we vote Skoffin, and you say that we are all bandwagonning. Well you guys are hypocrites. Though I'm not sure if that's a scum tell.
I don't know what to think of jnd. his claim seems likely to be true. But I'll need more info to pick a side.

Scummyest thing i've seen for a while.

I can't see anything from serbia, or nark about bandwaggoning.

vote fircoal

>.< I meant more of the bandwagoners that criticized the SKoffin bandwagon and then bandwagoned Neut.

And that's the scummiest thing you've seen in a while? There were a lot more scummy things discussed in the thread. Or was it because I was the last poster.

Quick question.

Your sig. It makes little sense to me.

Wo shi = i am

Ni de = and you ? (used to ask the same question after a response)

ma = an addition to represent a question

What is it supposed to say, and why does it not have a question mark ? tell me what you mean to say, and maybe i can give you the correct words (wo hui shuo yidian zhongwen)

my mistake, nide is your but it is not two words

:O nide isn't 2 words. That's how I was taught it. (By another student in the class who was close to fluent. probably could do a better job then our teacher. )

[Huckleberryhound]

Found your thread about it in the other forum (i don't do forums very often anymore)

[kalishnikov]

Hmm I'm having after thoughts cause it could still be bad to roleclaim, so let me phrase it differently.
Was your mission any related to the hunt setting-wise (as I suppose not only jedis & voxhyns scum could have been involved) or Mandy just happened to give you one during that?
This is a pretty important question as I came across something when rereading...

I'd also like to hear the answer to this question ga7.

[Anarkistsdream]

3. Got tonkaed - Doesn't post often. Doesn't seem that scummy though
5. Fircoal - Definitely could be scum, but I don't see him bandwagonning more than anyone else.
7. Talapus - Not inputting much into the game. Not really submarining, just... Inconsistent
10. jnd94 - *shrug* Don't know
14. Ga7 - Is either playing a DAMN good scum role and doing it well or is a good guy.
15. Syzygy - Where oh where are you, Syz?
16. Selin - Don't give me that "I'm from Turkey and don't speak English and rarely check this game" crap...
17.Serbia - I know that you are capable of pulling it off if you are scum.
19.Kalishnikov (replacing Willis) - *shrug*
22.Nark 2.0 (replacing Skittles!) - I know who I am, and it's not Vong
23.Neutrino - Definitely has looked bad in this game...
24.Skoffin - Also looks scummy, and not posting much doesn't help
27. Gimpy (replacing Life-saver) - Where are you and why have you not been aroudn?
28. Huckelberryhound (replacing Xen Cobra) - Seems good to me
31.Kwanton - *shrug*

Would anyone care to throw in their two pence?

[ga7]

At this point the list thingies don't sound like a bad idea... I still need to finish rereading to make mind though.
Regarding the question, I find it rather odd that Jnd still didn't react to it... FOS Jnd

[kwanton]

3. Got tonkaed - Doesn't post often. Doesn't seem that scummy though

I feel the same.

5. Fircoal - Definitely could be scum, but I don't see him bandwagonning more than anyone else.

Hrm well to me bandwagons can't really be a scum tell at this point. So many people did it that I can't tell anything from the bandwagons

7. Talapus - Not inputting much into the game. Not really submarining, just... Inconsistent

He's done nothing to ping my scumdar.

10. jnd94 - *shrug* Don't know

Well he FOS'd selin for trying to contribute. That's really the only thing I found scummy although it might not be. (More on selin down further) That and the "don't lynch skoffin" bit. But who knows what to take from that?

14. Ga7 - Is either playing a DAMN good scum role and doing it well or is a good guy.

I just don't know....

15. Syzygy - Where oh where are you, Syz?

He popped up to criticize the criticizers of a bandwagon for bandwagon. That's really the only relevant thing he posted in a few. Keep an eye on him then.

16. Selin - Don't give me that "I'm from Turkey and don't speak English and rarely check this game" crap...

He posted that long thing FOSing a bunch of people. I think he was just trying to contribute, but he may be playing the role of helpful scum and posting a bunch of red herrings to mislead us. But then again you and me could be accused of the same.

17.Serbia - I know that you are capable of pulling it off if you are scum.

Eh. He Foss'd selin for the same reason as jnd. He also jumped bandwagons pretty quickly after jnd's semi-claim without questioning.

19.Kalishnikov (replacing Willis) - *shrug*

meh

22.Nark 2.0 (replacing Skittles!) - I know who I am, and it's not Vong

How can we believe that?

23.Neutrino - Definitely has looked bad in this game...

agreed. But I don't see enough evidence for an automatic lynch.

24.Skoffin - Also looks scummy, and not posting much doesn't help

This is the weird thing with skoffin. She doesn't post. In any games. I've learned to overlook this by now.

27. Gimpy (replacing Life-saver) - Where are you and why have you not been aroudn?

it has been a while since he posted anything relevant....

28. Huckelberryhound (replacing Xen Cobra) - Seems good to me

Nothing to say about him.

31.Kwanton - *shrug*

All I get is a shrug?



Well that's about it.

[Syzygy]

3. Got tonkaed - Doesn't post often. Doesn't seem that scummy though

I feel the same.

5. Fircoal - Definitely could be scum, but I don't see him bandwagonning more than anyone else.

Hrm well to me bandwagons can't really be a scum tell at this point. So many people did it that I can't tell anything from the bandwagons

7. Talapus - Not inputting much into the game. Not really submarining, just... Inconsistent

He's done nothing to ping my scumdar.

10. jnd94 - *shrug*Don't know

Well he FOS'd selin for trying to contribute. That's really the only thing I found scummy although it might not be. (More on selin down further) That and the "don't lynch skoffin" bit. But who knows what to take from that?

14. Ga7 - Is either playing a DAMN good scum role and doing it well or is a good guy.

I just don't know....

15. Syzygy - Where oh where are you, Syz?

He popped up to criticize the criticizers of a bandwagon for bandwagon. That's really the only relevant thing he posted in a few. Keep an eye on him then.

16. Selin - Don't give me that "I'm from Turkey and don't speak English and rarely check this game" crap...

He posted that long thing FOSing a bunch of people. I think he was just trying to contribute, but he may be playing the role of helpful scum and posting a bunch of red herrings to mislead us. But then again you and me could be accused of the same.

17.Serbia - I know that you are capable of pulling it off if you are scum.

Eh. He Foss'd selin for the same reason as jnd. He also jumped bandwagons pretty quickly after jnd's semi-claim without questioning.

19.Kalishnikov (replacing Willis) - *shrug*

meh

22.Nark 2.0 (replacing Skittles!) - I know who I am, and it's not Vong

How can we believe that?

23.Neutrino - Definitely has looked bad in this game...

agreed. But I don't see enough evidence for an automatic lynch.

24.Skoffin - Also looks scummy, and not posting much doesn't help

This is the weird thing with skoffin. She doesn't post. In any games. I've learned to overlook this by now.

27. Gimpy (replacing Life-saver) - Where are you and why have you not been aroudn?

it has been a while since he posted anything relevant....

28. Huckelberryhound (replacing Xen Cobra) - Seems good to me

Nothing to say about him.

31.Kwanton - *shrug*

All I get is a shrug?



Well that's about it.

Don't you think you're being a bit over analytical here?

*Sigh. I don't think I agree with the Neutrino bandwagon, but I'm reluctant to hop on the other one...

Neither person looks scummy.

[jnd94]

At this point the list thingies don't sound like a bad idea... I still need to finish rereading to make mind though.
Regarding the question, I find it rather odd that Jnd still didn't react to it... FOS Jnd

question?

[gimpyThewonder]

regarding my absence. I've honestly been laying low on purpose, waiting for someone to slip so i could pounce on it. But w/ all the people who said "slow down" there has been hardly anything said to go off of. When i have some evidence, or agree w/ evidence presented by another I'll be there to do my thing.

[Selin]

I don't have the feeling that the last few days helped us much. In fact, most of players seem to be less active. Wanting to push the game a little I chose neutrino to vote from my FOS list.

Vote: neutrino

Two main reasons I pointed already earlier are:
a) He is non-jedi.
b) nagereous voted him at some stage "mason power of jedis" discussions.

.

[Neutrino]

regarding my absence. I've honestly been laying low on purpose, waiting for someone to slip so i could pounce on it. But w/ all the people who said "slow down" there has been hardly anything said to go off of. When i have some evidence, or agree w/ evidence presented by another I'll be there to do my thing.

Why lay low? You could get exactly the same amount of pouncing power if you were active.

[Anarkistsdream]

regarding my absence. I've honestly been laying low on purpose, waiting for someone to slip so i could pounce on it. But w/ all the people who said "slow down" there has been hardly anything said to go off of. When i have some evidence, or agree w/ evidence presented by another I'll be there to do my thing.

Why lay low? You could get exactly the same amount of pouncing power if you were active.

And on top of that, it sounds like a scum excuse.

[mandalorian2298]

VOTE COUNT

Skoffin (3) - Ga7, Fircoal, Tonka
Neutrino (5) - Jnd, Serbia, Nark, Kalish, Neutrino
Fircoal (1) . Huck

15 alive, 8 to lynch.