Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

[Fircoal]

now on to edocsil
the eragon game you linked to is interesting..... I read through it again and found that; 1. the vodean you mentioned was not killed for editing, quite the opposite he posted not one time in the whole game. 2. You had scolded a player in that game for editing.

Khiva! Stop editing your posts!!

how do you go from that, to "Editing is a lynchable offense." in this game?

It took me less 7 months to go from chiding someone for spamming to posting around 100 posts a day on this forum. That's not to even mention all the less credible posts that I did before I got to that peak posting. The point is that it's easy to change one's way of acting. Especially concerning when one just starts. (Especially if you're 13. x3)

[edocsil]

now on to edocsil
the eragon game you linked to is interesting..... I read through it again and found that; 1. the vodean you mentioned was not killed for editing, quite the opposite he posted not one time in the whole game. 2. You had scolded a player in that game for editing.

Khiva! Stop editing your posts!!

how do you go from that, to "Editing is a lynchable offense." in this game?

It took me less 7 months to go from chiding someone for spamming to posting around 100 posts a day on this forum. That's not to even mention all the less credible posts that I did before I got to that peak posting. The point is that it's easy to change one's way of acting. Especially concerning when one just starts. (Especially if you're 13. x3)

One, the khiva thing was me misreading one of his posts and I made an idiot of myself, and then in jest blamed it on him for editing his post. Two, vodean was in an entirely separate thread, this was just one of the strikes against him. If you search for his last post on the forum, you might find what I was referring to IDK.

[00iCon]

Taken under advisement and I agree with you. However I'm not taking my vote off of him, because I actually voted him for a reason other than the post edit.

-Tails

^what she said

was this a joke? or are you actually agreeing that ta1lgunn3r has a legitimate reason to suspect you?
I also find it odd that you would essentially ask who you should vote for with such a large ongoing wagon of suspicion mounting on edoc for wagoning you, which you claim to find suspicious.

i meant what flores said. like, in the post directly above. i guess i shouldn't have quoted, it'd be clearer.

[00iCon]

derp. i've been slowposted if that's possible! by 9 hours!
just forgot to read the last page

[Commander9]

oh btw the erratic behavior of commander can be found around page 9, upon re-reading, didn't seem so funny to me

Would you be interested in elaborating that, please?

Well to be honest I miscounted the votes thought there was one less on edoc at the time. Still I stick by my vote. I found edoc's vote on icon to not only be suspicious for the timing but also suspicious for the reasoning behind it as I've already explained.

This. Edoc is a better player than that and I don't think he'd so easily BW anyone if he was pro-town.

[TheSaxlad]

oh btw the erratic behavior of commander can be found around page 9, upon re-reading, didn't seem so funny to me

Would you be interested in elaborating that, please?

Well to be honest I miscounted the votes thought there was one less on edoc at the time. Still I stick by my vote. I found edoc's vote on icon to not only be suspicious for the timing but also suspicious for the reasoning behind it as I've already explained.

This. Edoc is a better player than that and I don't think he'd so easily BW anyone if he was pro-town.

Tbh I agree with all of this, but in my mind its not enough to warrant a vote.

FOS Edocsil

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One, the khiva thing was me misreading one of his posts and I made an idiot of myself, and then in jest blamed it on him for editing his post. Two, vodean was in an entirely separate thread, this was just one of the strikes against him. If you search for his last post on the forum, you might find what I was referring to IDK.

Ah, well there is no relevant connection to the thread you gave then. Not that it matters...
You have had plenty of time to claim, I feel you are stalling especially seeing as how over half the town has expressed suspicion towards you. Vote Edocsil

[Fircoal]

One, the khiva thing was me misreading one of his posts and I made an idiot of myself, and then in jest blamed it on him for editing his post. Two, vodean was in an entirely separate thread, this was just one of the strikes against him. If you search for his last post on the forum, you might find what I was referring to IDK.

Ah, well there is no relevant connection to the thread you gave then. Not that it matters...
You have had plenty of time to claim, I feel you are stalling especially seeing as how over half the town has expressed suspicion towards you. Vote Edocsil

This post kinda sounds like you're trying to peg Edoc for any little reason that you can. While a lot of us have cast suspicion on Edoc, has anyone really asked him to claim?

[strike wolf]

I honestly thought I had but can't find the post...anyways unvote I rarely like l-1 before role claim. Too early for the hammer.

[freezie]

oh btw the erratic behavior of commander can be found around page 9, upon re-reading, didn't seem so funny to me

Would you be interested in elaborating that, please?

Well to be honest I miscounted the votes thought there was one less on edoc at the time. Still I stick by my vote. I found edoc's vote on icon to not only be suspicious for the timing but also suspicious for the reasoning behind it as I've already explained.

This. Edoc is a better player than that and I don't think he'd so easily BW anyone if he was pro-town.

Tbh I agree with all of this, but in my mind its not enough to warrant a vote.

FOS Edocsil

I shall bring this post to attention to everybody...Sax, you agree with all of this, you agree on the bandwaggon, but you do not cast your vote? This sounds like a weak and blatant WIFOM, or simply that you are his scumate trying to dissociate with him?

[edocsil]

Two of the votes on me are joke votes from the first few pages, only a few are serious. I couldn't find Fir's vote in the last few pages, so I assume it was not for this current BW. So / you and a few others are trying to force me to claim, cause I took offense to someone editing a post. See yet why I am largely unconcerned? I dislike when you say that over half the town has "expressed suspicion towards me", when it is only 5 or 6 of you, few finding it vote worthy.

Perhaps I will claim, but fully half of the players voting for me have had not voted for me with seriousness. I would like it if Xureb, Violet, and Fircoal would unvote because their votes do not reflect a desire for my claim. If the express their negative opinions on my actions then I will claim, but I will not claim without more pressure then 3 serious votes and a few likely deserved FoSes. The action was perhaps scummy, it was a wagon, but it was over a serious matter, editing cannot be allowed. My vote has served its purpose teaching someone that lesson, hopefully it will not cause my own undoing.

And / there was relevant connection, fircoal specifically asked me what thread I was talking about when I mentioned being nearly lynched mostly for being new at the game and not knowing how things worked.

[edocsil]

All that was before freezie's post, wasn't about to rewrite it.

Some people here don't understand the purpose of a FoS, means you think it isn't vote worthy. Is this really that hard to understand? What I did was not the action of you average innocent townie, but it was not an excuse for an easy lynch.

[strike wolf]

Well its not so much that you voted for icon as much as when and the reasons you used which I don't buy.

[VioIet]

Perhaps I will claim, but fully half of the players voting for me have had not voted for me with seriousness. I would like it if Xureb, Violet, and Fircoal would unvote because their votes do not reflect a desire for my claim.

Unvote

[edocsil]

Well its not so much that you voted for icon as much as when and the reasons you used which I don't buy.

What else was there to say about it? He edited a post, I thought was scummy. Wasn't a complicated argument.

[Commander9]

Two of the votes on me are joke votes from the first few pages, only a few are serious. I couldn't find Fir's vote in the last few pages, so I assume it was not for this current BW. So / you and a few others are trying to force me to claim, cause I took offense to someone editing a post. See yet why I am largely unconcerned? I dislike when you say that over half the town has "expressed suspicion towards me", when it is only 5 or 6 of you, few finding it vote worthy.

Perhaps I will claim, but fully half of the players voting for me have had not voted for me with seriousness. I would like it if Xureb, Violet, and Fircoal would unvote because their votes do not reflect a desire for my claim. If the express their negative opinions on my actions then I will claim, but I will not claim without more pressure then 3 serious votes and a few likely deserved FoSes. The action was perhaps scummy, it was a wagon, but it was over a serious matter, editing cannot be allowed. My vote has served its purpose teaching someone that lesson, hopefully it will not cause my own undoing.

And / there was relevant connection, fircoal specifically asked me what thread I was talking about when I mentioned being nearly lynched mostly for being new at the game and not knowing how things worked.

No one said it wasn't serious, but the guy's new and almost everyone who has played the game made this mistake. This doesn't mean we should oust the guy alone on that basis... Since you're much better than that and you've went for an extremely easy BW, that's my vote is on you. Obviously, it's not enough to lynch a person on it's own, but it's Day 1 and this is the best lead so far.

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One, the khiva thing was me misreading one of his posts and I made an idiot of myself, and then in jest blamed it on him for editing his post. Two, vodean was in an entirely separate thread, this was just one of the strikes against him. If you search for his last post on the forum, you might find what I was referring to IDK.

Ah, well there is no relevant connection to the thread you gave then. Not that it matters...
You have had plenty of time to claim, I feel you are stalling especially seeing as how over half the town has expressed suspicion towards you. Vote Edocsil

This post kinda sounds like you're trying to peg Edoc for any little reason that you can. While a lot of us have cast suspicion on Edoc, has anyone really asked him to claim?

Well, you may have some point, but if this bandwagon provides neither info or a scum, it is pointless for town, can you tell me what you hope to achieve from being on this

useless bandwagon.

for so long?

And / there was relevant connection, fircoal specifically asked me what thread I was talking about when I mentioned being nearly lynched mostly for being new at the game and not knowing how things worked.

well it was the wrong thread, so no...there is actually no connection

[edocsil]

One, the khiva thing was me misreading one of his posts and I made an idiot of myself, and then in jest blamed it on him for editing his post. Two, vodean was in an entirely separate thread, this was just one of the strikes against him. If you search for his last post on the forum, you might find what I was referring to IDK.

Ah, well there is no relevant connection to the thread you gave then. Not that it matters...
You have had plenty of time to claim, I feel you are stalling especially seeing as how over half the town has expressed suspicion towards you. Vote Edocsil

This post kinda sounds like you're trying to peg Edoc for any little reason that you can. While a lot of us have cast suspicion on Edoc, has anyone really asked him to claim?

Well, you may have some point, but if this bandwagon provides neither info or a scum, it is pointless for town, can you tell me what you hope to achieve from being on this

useless bandwagon.

for so long?

And / there was relevant connection, fircoal specifically asked me what thread I was talking about when I mentioned being nearly lynched mostly for being new at the game and not knowing how things worked.

well it was the wrong thread, so no...there is actually no connection

First off, three pages ago I posted

I will unvote. The largest purpose of the vote was to prevent editing in the future, that has been accomplished I believe.

EBWOP bold....

So I am not on the

useless bandwagon.

anymore. And second off, that was the correct thread, despite you attempts to misquote me. I received the wrong role PM, and not knowing the extremely rare frequency of that occurrence tried to convince everyone that I was telling the truth. I also believe that I edited a post somewhere in there and I was chastised for it. While I am not 100% certain it is that thread I am relatively confident it is in there. You decided to latch onto an obvious joke, one that came blindingly clear if you read a few posts further.

Long story short I am frustrated that you are misrepresenting the truth in your case against me.

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First off, stop skimming, I was obviously talking to fircoal for the first half of my post, the second part was just a side remark to you.
Second, I am sure it isn't the correct game, the khiva thing you already explained is the only mention of editing in the whole game aside from the front page rules, but I don't particularly care anyway, like I said, just a side note.

[TheSaxlad]

And while edocsil and /, who in my mind are mafia chumps all have a fight to prove they are not mafia chumps we can just sit here and watch on eh?

[TheSaxlad]

ebwop, plus smith and his agents have fights all the time don't they...

well imma just saying but we have to start somewhere. unvote vote /

[ga7]

No one said it wasn't serious, but the guy's new and almost everyone who has played the game made this mistake. This doesn't mean we should oust the guy alone on that basis...

Actually no, i don't think most ppl pull this kind of bs, from where do you get your stats anyway? first "new" doesn't mean "illiterate", and being mafia a text based game, i am throwing the far fetched assumption that everyone here knows how to read, the rules of the game are clear, they don't say "is strongly advised to not edit but not wholly enforced, so go and do what you feel is right" and yes, the readiness with which most ppl is willing to laugh it off seems at best fishy to me.

[FloresDelMal]

No one said it wasn't serious, but the guy's new and almost everyone who has played the game made this mistake. This doesn't mean we should oust the guy alone on that basis...

Actually no, i don't think most ppl pull this kind of bs, from where do you get your stats anyway? first "new" doesn't mean "illiterate", and being mafia a text based game, i am throwing the far fetched assumption that everyone here knows how to read, the rules of the game are clear, they don't say "is strongly advised to not edit but not wholly enforced, so go and do what you feel is right" and yes, the readiness with which most ppl is willing to laugh it off seems at best fishy to me.

actually that post is mine, i was going to check this, logged in, went to take breakfast and he had logged in, and i didn't notice, oh the joy of PC sharing.

[strike wolf]

i was. About to ask when did frenchie join this game...I brushed it off because he is newer and the rules weren't specifically defined in thread. The chance that he would break a rule like that without realizing it was more likely than you are giving it credit for. As far as edoc, I thought he was quick to jump on to make it an official wagon and his initial reasons he gave for doing so

1. "editing is a lynchable offense"-just sounds to me like a quick hop on the wagon to get things moving in a lynch.
2. We don't know what he editted-true but by itself isn't much of a case.
3. Voting him to serve as a warning-came when he was be heavily questioned for his reasons for voting icon and again sounds like weak reasoning.

vote edoc

[aage]

No one said it wasn't serious, but the guy's new and almost everyone who has played the game made this mistake. This doesn't mean we should oust the guy alone on that basis...

Actually no, i don't think most ppl pull this kind of bs, from where do you get your stats anyway? first "new" doesn't mean "illiterate", and being mafia a text based game, i am throwing the far fetched assumption that everyone here knows how to read, the rules of the game are clear, they don't say "is strongly advised to not edit but not wholly enforced, so go and do what you feel is right" and yes, the readiness with which most ppl is willing to laugh it off seems at best fishy to me.

Are you in this game?
And I disagree. Not all new players take the effort to read the rules because the rules are practically the same on every mafia forum. I edited once as well because I never ever played a forum where editing was prohibited, and I was assuming the rules were the same anyways. This is the key reason why I'm being lenient about it.

Also I think it is REALLY farfetched to think he was saying "oh my scumbuddies are x y and z" and then edited that out xD