Game of Thrones Mafia 9/24 Night 6: End Game Vote 4 MVP

[pancakemix]

Nope nope nope ##Unvote

I'd rather not let my emotions get the better of me here and that's what's happening (it can happen when you're me. And drunk at 3AM but whatever)

Everything I said still holds, however. I struggle sometimes to see the dancers from the dance with jak, and I never know if's genius or folly. Right now, I'll let it sit and cool my heels (and get some sleep).

[Zivel]

Nope! Though my avvy is female for a particular reason. If you can guess who it is and why, it's bonus points.

Athena, godess of wisdom










Thanks google

[betiko]

The sarcasm.. it burns.

I FOSed Betiko because he asked if AoG liked his character. There is no game relevant reason to ask that except to narrow the field on who AoG's character is so I called it rolefishing.

Sarcasm is my best friend.

You have a point. I like your read.

Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?

Also, what makes you so sure he even has a character?

(I've read till here while I make this reply)
There is a game of thrones thread about the show in the off topics forums where we discuss every episode with strike and AOG. This is the first time I ever find AOG in a mafia game as I previously stated, and he is therefore my current subject of attention.
Strike, you were hosting breaking bad mafia; and you perfectly know what storr was telling in there. That he wanted to host a game of thrones mafia where characters wouldn't give away alignments. I am shaking a bit the tree with AOG, since he only replies with 1 liners and would like him to tell us a bit more of what he thinks

@ bunnies: "Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?" why would you even make a question like that? Are you implying that people could start the game with no character?

[StorrZerg]

Current Vote Count
Voting ends 6/28 @ 16:00 CC time
Reminder any role pm actions bust be in 1 hour before the dead line.

Mudpuppy(0): strike wolf
Strikewolf(1): Jmac1026
Epitaph(1): pretender77
Jak111(1): Charm, pancakemix
Jonty125(1): legionnare
betiko (4): firth4eva, strike wolf, Army of God, Nebuchadnezer
27ninjabunnies (2): Iron Butterfly, Jak111
mtamburini (1) MudPuppy

(Bold is set to be lynched)
(strike, vote removed)
Currently betiko is set to be lynched.


Those who have do not have placed votes (12)
27ninjabunnies, betiko, boonetown, Mtamburini, pershy, jwiedlin, Epitaph1, kgb007, Jonty125, Zivel, Crasp, HotShot53, pancakemix

[betiko]

So with SW list, I don't like it because you are basically accountable for another person. I don't want to have to worry about watching to see this one person post, especially in a game this big. I want to be able to focus on my reads on other people and to look at their interactions. If mafia want to lurk, by all means, go ahead. Better way to modkill you with.

Also, the point of my post to Betiko is not whether or not AoG has a character, but why he is so concerned with AoG's character. Tbh, do we all have characters? Idk. Could there possibly be just vanilla towns without a character name everywhere? More than likely. It makes no sense to make all people characters. Mafia would just be hitting power roles left and right. So the fact that Betiko wants to know if AoG is a character and not vanilla town, eh, seems a bit scummy. Sounds like role hunting to me. Hence my questioning to him.

Also, Zivel, much love to you my friend.

There are so many characters in game of thrones that it seems pretty foolish to think that storr didn't pull 24 names. Also, do you think he was foolish enough to not give characters to some of us here? that would be unfair; and such an easy fakeclaim "i'm a VT and have no character!"

[betiko]

I voted firth4eva. Out of the bandwagon formed on me, she just jumped on me in no time, and she is basically jumping on everything that comes along, not comming up with anything; just agreeing with all the suspicions comming to hand regarding anyone. Just feels like she is trying too hard.

[firth4eva]

I voted firth4eva. Out of the bandwagon formed on me, she just jumped on me in no time, and she is basically jumping on everything that comes along, not comming up with anything; just agreeing with all the suspicions comming to hand regarding anyone. Just feels like she is trying too hard.

Just to clarify, I am male

To counter your points, I'm just pointing out my suspicions as I see them, and I'm not vote hopping, I have only voted you(and a joke vote that wasnt even in the right thread).

Initially the lynch on you was because you were slightly suspicious, but now you seem to be digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole. No real rebuttal and an OMGUS vote because I am leading a lynch on you.

[pretender77]

The sarcasm.. it burns.

I FOSed Betiko because he asked if AoG liked his character. There is no game relevant reason to ask that except to narrow the field on who AoG's character is so I called it rolefishing.

Sarcasm is my best friend.

You have a point. I like your read.

Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?

Also, what makes you so sure he even has a character?

(I've read till here while I make this reply)
There is a game of thrones thread about the show in the off topics forums where we discuss every episode with strike and AOG. This is the first time I ever find AOG in a mafia game as I previously stated, and he is therefore my current subject of attention.
Strike, you were hosting breaking bad mafia; and you perfectly know what storr was telling in there. That he wanted to host a game of thrones mafia where characters wouldn't give away alignments. I am shaking a bit the tree with AOG, since he only replies with 1 liners and would like him to tell us a bit more of what he thinks

@ bunnies: "Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?" why would you even make a question like that? Are you implying that people could start the game with no character?

#D1Doldrums The quoted post by Betiko is a pretty good explanation folks. For his curiosity And also I think bunny is just new that's why it's coming off weird. Did anyone take a look at the question I posed in my last post?

[betiko]

I voted firth4eva. Out of the bandwagon formed on me, she just jumped on me in no time, and she is basically jumping on everything that comes along, not comming up with anything; just agreeing with all the suspicions comming to hand regarding anyone. Just feels like she is trying too hard.

Just to clarify, I am male

To counter your points, I'm just pointing out my suspicions as I see them, and I'm not vote hopping, I have only voted you(and a joke vote that wasnt even in the right thread).

Initially the lynch on you was because you were slightly suspicious, but now you seem to be digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole. No real rebuttal and an OMGUS vote because I am leading a lynch on you.

Your case on me is thin air mate. You are making me say it.... We are in the same city and what you have been posting in there to advocate my lynch is either dumb or scummy as hell. You want to lynch me no matter my alignment, and no matter my role. I might be a vt, I might not. What someone does in the first place is try to get a claim before considering lynching someone.
You just come up with that great plan of lynching me no matter what. Call this OMGUS or whatever you want, but your reasoning in our town thread, and all the FOS you ve made in here to each case brought up makes me see you in quite a scummy fashion.

[strike wolf]

You can argue that character doesn't justify alignment. I am not disagreeing with you. Rolefishing STILL doesn't help town. You could still be a lyncher of sorts. You could be trying to figure out a likely ability that would go with his character even if his alignment is random or to eliminate fake claims. There's also this Iron Throne business (I wasn't going to mention it but Jak (I think it was Jak anyways) brought it up and it appears that it could be something said in every town. I won't confirm whether the throne is in our town or not) that we don't know what it is for. It could be that a specific person is looking for it as part of their win condition and there are certain characters more likely to currently hold it right now. I really don't know. I mean that last part's weak but I still can't see a pro-town reason to ask about a non-pressured person's character whether vaguely or specifically.

Your argument that he is spitting out one liners is also Post Hoc Ergo Hoc BS. Your first question came after his first post in the game (a few hours after the game had started) and read as such:

I know AOG pretty well from the off topics and it s the first time I ever see him play mafia.
So AOG, do you know what you are doing or did you just sign up because it was game of thrones? Are you happy with the character you got or is it a crappy one?

[jwiedlin]

Lots of information (and non-information) to sort through here.

Role fishing is the thing that stood out the most for me, and is the most damaging for town. This has happened day 1 by (presumed) town members in all the games I have played, so I am far from thinking it is a clear indication of scum.

##Vote: Betiko

btw, im a little sad i didn't get hodor as my character. that would have made for an interesting play

FP strike wolf

[betiko]

You can argue that character doesn't justify alignment. I am not disagreeing with you. Rolefishing STILL doesn't help town. You could still be a lyncher of sorts. You could be trying to figure out a likely ability that would go with his character even if his alignment is random or to eliminate fake claims. There's also this Iron Throne business (I wasn't going to mention it but Jak (I think it was Jak anyways) brought it up and it appears that it could be something said in every town. I won't confirm whether the throne is in our town or not) that we don't know what it is for. It could be that a specific person is looking for it as part of their win condition and there are certain characters more likely to currently hold it right now. I really don't know. I mean that last part's weak but I still can't see a pro-town reason to ask about a non-pressured person's character whether vaguely or specifically.

Your argument that he is spitting out one liners is also Post Hoc Ergo Hoc BS. Your first question came after his first post in the game (a few hours after the game had started) and read as such:

I know AOG pretty well from the off topics and it s the first time I ever see him play mafia.
So AOG, do you know what you are doing or did you just sign up because it was game of thrones? Are you happy with the character you got or is it a crappy one?

Mind doing a little research before comming up with such BS yourself? What you are quoting was is in response to this post by AOG:

I am Army of GOD and I'm an alcoholi...wait.

What you are basically doing is to try to get my claim; and what you are acusing me of is "rolefishing" by trying to make AOG talk more than those posts that have absolutely no substance.
You aren't going anywhere with my case. Sure it's a day 1 case and they are always fluff. I have nothing to add to this since you are speculating on wind; and you are trying to add wind to your case once again, quoting things out of context or simply twisting reality and was really posted in here.

[crasp]

There is a massive red herring being fed here and i am not sure if it is deliberate or people are just following the series rather than the books. As far as cults go there is a number of cults other than the white walkers who I wouldnt class as cult. . The biggest of these are the warrior sons who have already shown face in the series but havent became prominent. With so many in it would make sense that a cult or similar are active.
The other thing with the white walkers they have to date never appeared south of the wall and all the cities we have come under that jurisdiction.

FP Betika.

[boonetown]

i have a bit more to say after i respond to this but i really wanted to make this a post all on it's own...

The sarcasm.. it burns.

I FOSed Betiko because he asked if AoG liked his character. There is no game relevant reason to ask that except to narrow the field on who AoG's character is so I called it rolefishing.

Sarcasm is my best friend.

You have a point. I like your read.

Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?

Also, what makes you so sure he even has a character?

(I've read till here while I make this reply)
There is a game of thrones thread about the show in the off topics forums where we discuss every episode with strike and AOG. This is the first time I ever find AOG in a mafia game as I previously stated, and he is therefore my current subject of attention.
Strike, you were hosting breaking bad mafia; and you perfectly know what storr was telling in there. That he wanted to host a game of thrones mafia where characters wouldn't give away alignments. I am shaking a bit the tree with AOG, since he only replies with 1 liners and would like him to tell us a bit more of what he thinks

@ bunnies: "Betiko, why do you care so much about AoG's character?" why would you even make a question like that? Are you implying that people could start the game with no character?

I LOVE THIS.

his reaasoning for questioning his enjoyment of his character makes so much sense. i thought at first that it was merely people jumping all over it because they were worried people would just start claiming, and they dont want to claim their role, which i can absolutely understand, but it's also bad for mafia if that happens. the fact that he's so aware that AOG loves GoT but has never (to his knowledge) played a mafia games, means that based on AOGs reaction to his character, he might not only play differently if he were a regular on the mafia forums, but that it would drastically affect his first game.

i dont see a reason that this is a horrible question. i for one, am super happy with the character i have.

i'm going to ramble here a bit on a few other things, i hadnt planned to but now i'm in the groove.

i think all the character and city speculation is rather silly. now people are just using is as filler. Epitah for example came in and posted with absolutely ZERO new information, just repeated things that were already stated before and not even in a better fashion.

i really think you should all back off bunnies. at this point in time, it seems as tho she's an easy mislynch and the bandwagon on her seems too easy. i know her, and i know how she plays video mafia, i might have to change my read on her in later days based on how different she plays here, but currently she's probably one of three in my top town list, not to mention if she is town, she'll be so helpful in later days. she's a beast when it comes to mafia. joining her would be pancake and strike. reads are constantly changing and i feel like town change their reads far more often than mafia do, mafia are TRYING to remain consistent while town are only worried about finding town and not having mafia in their town circle. the fact that pancake voted and unvoted because of emotions, just screamed town to me.


now i need to finish reading the rest of the posts, ya'll are way more active than i was lead to believe. i love it!!

[boonetown]

okay i forgot to say, based on the above, i do believe that betiko is town, and as for the other person in this thread that i'm used to playing video mafia with.... tambo you need to either speak up or prepare for me to lead a lynch on you.

maybe it's a new medium for us to play in together, but you barely speaking isn't what i need from you, or anyone in this game for that matter, you're a good player and you have great logic. where is it?

I'd also love for people to start talking about people in the game and what they've done thus far to seem town or mafia to you. crasp for instance, recently wrote an entire post just about a cult theory. that seems like filler and a way to contribute to a thread count and not to the game. while i'm greatful for the idea that there could be a cult in the game, it's already been mentioned. i'm more interested in your reads than what you read.

[strike wolf]

So a first post is supposed to be 20 lines? It's still Post Hoc Ergo Hoc BS and you know it. Early Day 1 posts are generally low substance and you know that too. There were multiple people spouting out lines of little substance and what substance there was was mostly introductions. You did not pick out any of them. You chose Army of God based on one post. So what did he do in that one post that was different than some of those others besides this being the first time you saw him in a mafia game and knowing him from OT? Why does knowing him from OT make him a good subject of attention?

I'll give you the credit that you did ask other questions but none of them were about this particular game. you asked him if he had been in mafia before and what his general style was and he says it himself that he's not the verbose type in one of the replies.

As far as your case not advancing, there's been nothing new to address except that IMO, you haven't defended yourself well and my response to your defense. You bring up the firth thing from your local QT but unless others in your town start weighing in on that (which they probably shouldn't unless they have a legitimate point to make), it's going to be a "He said/she said" argument and I'm not going to involve myself with that. You stated that characters wouldn't give away allegiance. I stated how rolefishing could still be bad.

Fp twice. Not reading anything to change my mind.

[betiko]

okay i forgot to say, based on the above, i do believe that betiko is town, and as for the other person in this thread that i'm used to playing video mafia with.... tambo you need to either speak up or prepare for me to lead a lynch on you.

maybe it's a new medium for us to play in together, but you barely speaking isn't what i need from you, or anyone in this game for that matter, you're a good player and you have great logic. where is it?

I'd also love for people to start talking about people in the game and what they've done thus far to seem town or mafia to you. crasp for instance, recently wrote an entire post just about a cult theory. that seems like filler and a way to contribute to a thread count and not to the game. while i'm greatful for the idea that there could be a cult in the game, it's already been mentioned. i'm more interested in your reads than what you read.

Not to mention that he is spoiling book stuff. Please book readers, no spoiling!

Boone, what is your read on firth4life?

Fp

[27ninjabunnies]

First off, What is Fp?

Secondly, I actually really like Betiko's defense. He seems actually really genuine and the way he answered was genuine.
@Betiko, it is possible. I've played in forum games where people don't have a name, and can be recruited into one, for example, maybe white walkers in this game?

So town I like now
Betiko
Boone
Strike
Pancake
IB (though I think he overreacted)
and I actually like firth


Mafia fos
JAK
Tamburini (until he talks a lot more I can get a read on him)
And Jweidlin. his post was super lacking for how much discussion hasbeen going on. And he basically just jumps on the betiko wagon. I don't like it one bit.

I can expand on any of the above reads if you need me to.

[betiko]

So a first post is supposed to be 20 lines? It's still Post Hoc Ergo Hoc BS and you know it. Early Day 1 posts are generally low substance and you know that too. There were multiple people spouting out lines of little substance and what substance there was was mostly introductions. You did not pick out any of them. You chose Army of God based on one post. So what did he do in that one post that was different than some of those others besides this being the first time you saw him in a mafia game and knowing him from OT? Why does knowing him from OT make him a good subject of attention?

I'll give you the credit that you did ask other questions but none of them were about this particular game. you asked him if he had been in mafia before and what his general style was and he says it himself that he's not the verbose type in one of the replies.

As far as your case not advancing, there's been nothing new to address except that IMO, you haven't defended yourself well and my response to your defense. You bring up the firth thing from your local QT but unless others in your town start weighing in on that (which they probably shouldn't unless they have a legitimate point to make), it's going to be a "He said/she said" argument and I'm not going to involve myself with that. You stated that characters wouldn't give away allegiance. I stated how rolefishing could still be bad.

Fp twice. Not reading anything to change my mind.

Absolutely untrue. Everybody started a little "introduction" of themselves adding a little substance. AOG just made a joke. So yeah, I poked him to get a better idea of how he plays.
AOG is a huge poster in OT, so am I, he is the guy I know the most in here. But not at all in a mafia game kind of way. If you fail to understand why I can be more curious about him than anyone else in here at first glance, well I recommend using a little thing called empathy.
I don't need further defense regarding a weak as piss acusation.

Fp

Bunny, fp= fastposted. I ll just post and read your reply after doing so.

[boonetown]

stupid question... on TL mafia we have a filter system that allows you to filter out the posts from just one player... do you guys have that? if so, where to do i find the option to turn that on?

I'll go back and read firth more, before i answer that question.

[27ninjabunnies]

stupid question... on TL mafia we have a filter system that allows you to filter out the posts from just one player... do you guys have that? if so, where to do i find the option to turn that on?

I'll go back and read firth more, before i answer that question.

That's EXACTLY what I wanted to know.

The filter button is so convenient. lmao

[27ninjabunnies]

And fast posted means what exactly?

Gotta get used to all this lingo!

[boonetown]

Boone, what is your read on firth4life?

after going back and reading, firth is probably leaning more scummy. his (I will assume everyone is male unless they h ave stated otherwise) post to bunnies (i think it was his first or second post actually) was sort of awkward, very back and forth without any real opinion. then he seems way more interested in voting than he should be, in fact his next 3 posts were solely about voting. hasnt even bothered to reconsider betiko and what information has been brought forth after the initial fos's.

firth, if you are going to fos someone based solely on the fact that they were CLEARLY role fishing, and state that they are CLEARLY the best lynch for today (despite explaination and other peoples opinion on the matter)... you will need to explain to me in more detail as to why he's mafia before i go ahead and change my mind on your allignment or his. Betiko has been way more active, has explained his reads, has given his reason for a fos on AOG, etc.

[betiko]

First off, What is Fp?

Secondly, I actually really like Betiko's defense. He seems actually really genuine and the way he answered was genuine.
@Betiko, it is possible. I've played in forum games where people don't have a name, and can be recruited into one, for example, maybe white walkers in this game?

So town I like now
Betiko
Boone
Strike
Pancake
IB (though I think he overreacted)
and I actually like firth


Mafia fos
JAK
Tamburini (until he talks a lot more I can get a read on him)
And Jweidlin. his post was super lacking for how much discussion hasbeen going on. And he basically just jumps on the betiko wagon. I don't like it one bit.

I can expand on any of the above reads if you need me to.

Ok, I had never seen such game mechanic, but I guess it could work. It's still 99% sure that we all started with a character+role as in almost all mafia games.
You could still have a character name, and become a white walker.

Regarding firth as I said, what I didn t like is that it s all about lynching me; not about getting me to claim. And basically, whatever I flip it will be great. Extremely bad or scummy reasoning.
I started saying in our town not to trust each other and give away stuff, as there was most likely at least one scum in each of the towns that could report stuff.
There has been some message erased in our town corresponding to firth's timestamps (although I can t guarantee it was him). I have really bad vibes from him if I add up all the red flags he's been waving.

Fp x3

[boonetown]

And fast posted means what exactly?

Gotta get used to all this lingo!

pretty sure that's just the quick reply button without any proofreading done.