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[madmitch]

Who do you want me to vote for WCG ? Deg seems the obvious pick .

[Iron Butterfly]

Who do you want me to vote for WCG ? Deg seems the obvious pick .

Why don't you explain who you would vote for and why instead of a CPR Doc tell you?

[rishaed]

Qwestjun: Do you beleeve Marashu is still Town, or do you beleeve he is now anti-Town?

Okay, so you cun't prove Deg is scum. But pleese eggsplain why you are "90% shore" it is him and not Rish?

1 - Mars still town in my book

Rish owned up to jailing me twice, this seems towny. Though I do have a question for Rish:

Why did you want to protect my reads when the only point of reference you have is that my read of you, (which was a scum read), was presumably wrong? (Or at least you will argue that it was wrong)

@benga - what is the case against me? I have claimed CPR doc and havent killed a member of town. What part of that makes me scum? Nothing to defend. I was blocked N1 and N2 so cannot have delivered a kill for mafia, or Rish is lying.

Wing in response to your question: Just because someone scum reads me, while it can put me on the defensive sometimes, I like most of your other reads. As someone as a Jailer, early on i need to jail people who I can read, and think are most likely town. If mtamb was active and in your same roll, i might not have jailed him because I can't read mtambs play style too well.
I'd also like to note that I'm the only reason why you haven't killed anyone yet, not because you weren't trying to use your role.
In response to Storr and N0, I didn't realize that this game had a N0, and by the time D1 started I realized my mistake. Also from what I know kills aren't allowed N0 for Mafia, so it would have been pointless for me to use my role N0.

[madmitch]

Who do you want me to vote for WCG ? Deg seems the obvious pick .

Why don't you explain who you would vote for and why instead of a CPR Doc tell you?

Because I made a deal with the doc, why? should I vote for you?

[StorrZerg]

Why benga was likely not the target.

He was gifted. This was known. It's poor to kill him then confirm a town sided inventor.
In addition he got 2 inventions. If one inventor is mafia, then he was 100% not targeted for kill.

Rishaed, idk how long you want to wait, but you should wait till after mets announces his information.

Atm strong town circle includes
Rishaed
Rage
Storr
Marashu
Benga


Unlikely mafia includes
Wing
Twr

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I'm celebrating Mardi Gras today so I'll be back at some point.

[CatchersMitt14]

Wing, why didn't you shoot Mitch? You've said before not to lych you based on your role becauwse your role isn't indicativ of alignment. I agree, but you definitely don't seem to be using your role to benefit town. You have also acknowledge that you're the one who needs to use your PR to kille Mitch.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Wing, why didn't you shoot Mitch? You've said before not to lych you based on your role becauwse your role isn't indicativ of alignment. I agree, but you definitely don't seem to be using your role to benefit town. You have also acknowledge that you're the one who needs to use your PR to kille Mitch.

Cause I am chose to be selfish and defend myself from a mislynch instead. Shooting Mitch is extremely predictable and thus manipulatable. If D4 starts with two deaths, none of which are Mitch I am lynched no matter what I say.

Anyway, its turned out well as I get a doublevote which benefits us far more than killing Mitch.

Speaking of which, Mitch do you know what happens at the end of the game if you are still alive?

[madmitch]

I ONLY WIN IF I GET LYNCHED so it looks like that ain't going to happen so I choose to help town

[PLAYER57832]

UNVOTE, VOTE no lynch OK, reconsidering. I won't have time to really read through everything until tomorrow (just popped in to see if my game was up yet), so going with "no lynch" for a temporary vote. If it truly is just one of the 3, then I want to be more sure.

[Iron Butterfly]

Qwestjun: Do you beleeve Marashu is still Town, or do you beleeve he is now anti-Town?

Okay, so you cun't prove Deg is scum. But pleese eggsplain why you are "90% shore" it is him and not Rish?

1 - Mars still town in my book

Rish owned up to jailing me twice, this seems towny. Though I do have a question for Rish:

Why did you want to protect my reads when the only point of reference you have is that my read of you, (which was a scum read), was presumably wrong? (Or at least you will argue that it was wrong)

@benga - what is the case against me? I have claimed CPR doc and havent killed a member of town. What part of that makes me scum? Nothing to defend. I was blocked N1 and N2 so cannot have delivered a kill for mafia, or Rish is lying.

Wing in response to your question: Just because someone scum reads me, while it can put me on the defensive sometimes, I like most of your other reads. As someone as a Jailer, early on i need to jail people who I can read, and think are most likely town. If mtamb was active and in your same roll, i might not have jailed him because I can't read mtambs play style too well.
I'd also like to note that I'm the only reason why you haven't killed anyone yet, not because you weren't trying to use your role.
In response to Storr and N0, I didn't realize that this game had a N0, and by the time D1 started I realized my mistake. Also from what I know kills aren't allowed N0 for Mafia, so it would have been pointless for me to use my role N0.

Mtam has no style.He just does not play. I can not remember a game where he has not disappeared to the detriment of his team.

[Metsfanmax]

Who do you want me to vote for WCG ? Deg seems the obvious pick .

Are you going to provide a reason for that? Do you think Deg is scum, and if so, why?

In terms of an action report, I 'investigated' twr last night. No gun was carried by him last night.

[StorrZerg]

we can lynch mets

[Marashu]

@marashu Just for clarification.

N0 you could not check someone?
N1 you investigated Skoffin and died.
n2 dead
n3 ?

That is correct. I got my result from N1 from the mods, and they confirmed that my investigation said Skoffin was anti-town.

N3 I investigated twr (didn't like how much of a big deal was being made of keeping the role secret), and the result was anti-town. I have no reason to believe that my sanity has flipped, so unless I was redirected somehow, I can say that twr is town.

@Wing - why did you choose to be selfish in a team game? Not hurting town does not mean benefiting town.

@mitch - I think that Wing, Deg and rish are the three prime lynch candidates today. Why are you letting one of those three lead you?

FP'd by mets, storr

[degaston]

we can lynch mets

You're not serious, right?

With benga's report, I think people will have to choose between me and Wing today. I don't see any reason to suspect rishaed or benga. So...

Vote Wing

I've thought he was scummy for a while, but didn't think I had enough on him. Going back over the posts, I noticed this:

ptlowe claims cop on Thursday

Well I can vet Stor's claim on being town because I investigated him last night. BTW since let's kill mafia and win and people are saying its a good idea. I am town cop. Let the claiming begin.

Falko votes for storr

... The group that gets my attention is the one from IB, Storr, ptlowe and some others. Madmitch said that aladdin is for town and storr not, which s antagonizing and interesting, in case that group turns out to be town, So lets find out.
Vote Storrzerg

Wing says vote for pt before storr

...Falko, vote PT before Storr, you cannot ignore a copcheck on D2.

So Falko does that (more than a day after the claim)

... vote ptlowe

Storr asks Falko why he did that

Why him over whatsausage, or benga?

And Wing tells him that he told Falko to do this.

... I told falko that if he thought you were scum he should lynch PT first. ...

But fast forward to D3, Wing jumps on Falko's bandwagon based on a lie (it was not immediate), and the fact that Falko did what Wing had suggested.

Unvote Vote Falko.

Deadline is coming and this lynch could happen. The facts speak for themselves, voted PTLowe immediately on cop claim and has not offered any scum targets beyond a sprinkling of my reads.

Does anyone else think that's pretty scummy reasoning for lynching a townie?

[Marashu]

Question for benga, did it say that it's exactly one of those three? Or is it possible for 2/3 or 3/3 to be scum?

[StorrZerg]

he said latter, 1 scum 2 town

[StorrZerg]

and yes im serious, in no world did TWR have any kill power. I'd respect a check on an inventor, or a VT claim. but not some newbie town that hasn't claimed. Also expected better of marashu. Marashu gave a petty reason imo, because he hadn't claimed. Still, mets gave no reason.

Is mets mafia? donno, just a little peeved that 2 investigations stacked on twr.

[Metsfanmax]

Is mets mafia? donno, just a little peeved that 2 investigations stacked on twr.

No worries. Today Marashu and I will coordinate out in the open and say exactly who we're investigating so that we make sure we don't stack. That can't go wrong.

[StorrZerg]

Is mets mafia? donno, just a little peeved that 2 investigations stacked on twr.

No worries. Today Marashu and I will coordinate out in the open and say exactly who we're investigating so that we make sure we don't stack. That can't go wrong.

yes and no, i know this is largely sarcastic. But grouping people so no overlap isn't a bad idea since we still have so many people

Why did you look into twr

[AladdinSane]

Why benga was likely not the target.

He was gifted. This was known. It's poor to kill him then confirm a town sided inventor.

Eggsept that it was known he was gifted wit a "Personality Mojule", witch cleerly wood have sum sort of investigative capability - scum mite well have thort conferming an inventer was werth dodging wun or moor reeds frum dat.

In addition he got 2 inventions. If one inventor is mafia, then he was 100% not targeted for kill.

IF wun inventer is Mafia. So witch is it?

Ragian sent Benga sumtink to make him bullettproof - dat dozent seem scummy to me. And if he was scum, why wood he send a "suicide" gun to Deg, who you think is also scum?

Dat leeves LSU TJ. He sent you teh swetter, witch backfired and gave his own roll. If he was scum and yore Town, why wood he send you a swetter intended to reveel yore roll? He wood have just confermed you as god if teh swetter had werked as he intendded. Why wood he do dat?

If you tink wun of dese inventers is scum, witch is it, and why? If you tink LSU TJ is scum, we shood be wary of twusting wotever he sent to Benga, rite?

Atm strong town circle includes
Rishaed
Rage
Storr
Marashu
Benga

Nope. A) You are welcum to give yer opinyuns like evrywun else, but dont try to make out dat dey are enytink moor than dat. B) You don't get to be in teh strong Town cerkle after you shafted Virus, on top of geting PTLowe killed. Yore teh wun orways banging on about strategee - wot was teh reesoning behing pushing Dakky to modlinch Virus? Statistikly he was likely Town; teh smart play (if you are Town) wood have been to keep quite and hope Virus made a late apeerance and AVOIDED modkill, not push a mod into killing him.

As fer Marashu, he's 50/50 at best. Sertanly not "strong Town" atm.

Unlikely mafia includes
Wing
Twr

D3 you say you wanted to linch Wing. Now he appeers on a "list of 3" and you switch to Deg, based solely on no NK? Ever thort dat whoever saved you frum dying wen you revivied Marashu mite have saved whoever he targeted?

Orso, yesterdsay you were orl gung ho about getting TWR to claim - now, wit nuttink changed, he's "unlikely mafia"??? You critisise Mets and Benga fer investimagating TWR becorse he dident claim, but you say you cood have respected teh investigashuns if he had claimed VT? How does dat add up? Are you saying dat if TWR had simply claimed VT insted of refusing to claim, you'd twust him MOOR???

[benga]

recap
n2 got from rag gift
chose buletprof over ninja
n3 got 2 gifts
aligment definer got 3 people, only 1 is scum, don't know from whom i got it
got glasses from lsu

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@Wing - why did you choose to be selfish in a team game? Not hurting town does not mean benefiting town.

Because at the end of D3 people were suggesting that I was SK, and that it would only follow to be the logical conclusion that I would be the mafia mislynch target for D4. By taking the selfish action I prevent this mislynch from being easy and thus keep both my own and towns interests at heart. They'll have to work hard to mislynch me now, rather than just say, "Wing shot town, lynch him".

I am of the belief that Mafia dont have a strong leader, and have acted without a direction for three days so far. I think that today their plan was to mislynch me. Look at Players for confirmation of this. CM and Deg are also trying to do the same, however Deg is more understandable. Its me or him for lynch today after Benga's item claim. (Just another damn distraction to prevent this game going smoothly)

Its for these reasons I dont believe Mets to be mafia, as he wouldnt allow them to be quite so clueless.

@Deg - Falko voting the first town checked player and voting the claimed cop are both pretty scummy moves. I merely pointed out that to question a cop check is to question the cop themselves. Falko should have backed down at that point but didnt. I do admit that I did forget that I had told Falko to switch vote.

@Mars - Because I hold the power to kill Mitch at night. His life is in my hands

@IB - re-cult - I was going to say that if someone turns up today with a speech impediment we should lynch CM.... read Benga's post.

[DJPatrick]

Soz MonkeyMan but you have outstayed your welcome and the extent of your bullshyyte...I'm honestly suprised to still be here but put it down to the "f@+Kwit Factor" ie...this guy has NO clue so why waste a kill BUT You have done nothing yourself except push pps into corners and manipulate the gullible,,,so I will join the small call for your furry skull and VOTE WGCDR Ginkaqpo

[AladdinSane]

Sory, funked up teh quotes agin - reely shoodent post wile decaffinated. Took teh oportunity to add sum moor thorts, and clarify a littul...

Why benga was likely not the target.

He was gifted. This was known. It's poor to kill him then confirm a town sided inventor.

Eggsept that it was known he was gifted wit a "Personality Mojule", witch cleerly wood have sum sort of investigative capability - scum mite well have thort conferming an inventer was werth dodging wun or moor reeds frum dat.

In addition he got 2 inventions. If one inventor is mafia, then he was 100% not targeted for kill.

IF wun inventer is Mafia. So witch is it?

Ragian sent Benga sumtink to make him bullettproof - dat dozent seem scummy to me. And if he was scum, why wood he send a "suicide" gun to Deg, who you think is also scum?

But enyway, Ragian is on yore "twusted" list, so cleerly you dont tink he is teh scummy inventer.

Dat leeves LSU TJ. By hanging yer case on wun of teh inventers been Mafia, and including Ragian in yer twusted cerkul, yer sayin dat you tink LSU TJ is Mafia.

But LSU TJ sent you teh swetter, witch backfired and gave his own roll. He ment it to reveel YORE roll. If he is scum and yore Town, why wood he send you a swetter intended to reveel yore roll? He wood have just confermed you as god if teh swetter had werked as he intendded. Why wood he do dat?

It makes sense if yore both scum, tho - as scum he wood want to conferm yer roll as Town god. So teh inferense frum yer own argumint is dat you are both scum.

Hear it is, in a nutsehell:

You tink Benga was not targeted last nite becorse you tink wun inventer is Mafia.
You twust Ragian, theirfore you tink LSU TJ is teh Mafia inventer.
LSU TJ sent you a swetter intended to reveel yore roll, but dis only makes sense, given he is Mafia, if you are Mafia too.

So, I take it we shoodent twust LSU TJ's invenshuns? I meen, apart frum teh fact dat dey don't werk as intended?

Atm strong town circle includes
Rishaed
Rage
Storr
Marashu
Benga

Nope.

A) You are welcum to give yer opinyuns like evrywun else, but dont try to make out dat dey are enytink moor than dat sertanly not teh consensus view, as you are trying to make out.

B) You don't get to be in teh strong Town cerkle after you shafted Virus, on top of geting PTLowe killed. Yore teh wun orways banging on about strategee - wot was teh reesoning behing pushing Dakky to modlinch Virus? Statistikly he was likely Town; teh smart play (if you are Town) wood have been to keep quite and hope Virus made a late apeerance and AVOIDED modkill, not push a mod into killing him.

As fer Marashu, he's 50/50 at best. Sertanly not "strong Town" atm.

Unlikely mafia includes
Wing
Twr

D3 you say you wanted to linch Wing. Now he appeers on a "list of 3" and you switch to Deg, based solely on no NK? Ever thort dat whoever saved you frum dying wen you revivied Marashu mite have saved whoever he targeted?

Orso, yesterdsay you were orl gung ho about getting TWR to claim - now, wit nuttink changed, he's "unlikely mafia"??? You critisise Mets and Benga fer investimagating TWR becorse he dident claim, but you say you cood have respected teh investigashuns if he had claimed VT? How does dat add up? Are you saying dat if TWR had simply claimed VT insted of refusing to claim, you'd twust him MOOR???