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Postby Selin on Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:40 am

kalishnikov wrote:I'm not scum though, when you lynch me you'll see. :)

I put the second vote on ga so he'd say something, and to get this moving because no one was posting (funny though how everyone came out of nowhere after not posting at all last night/today other then wicked). In fact, the reason I'm on right now was to unvote here and in Skittle's game. Just because you don't think there's a reason doesn't mean there isn't one.

If you want a claim, say the word. In fact, are we close enough that maybe we all should claim and see where we stand?

*hint: I can defend myself at night*

Be careful, 1 wrong lynch and it could be endgame.



You talk about being careful, but you see no problem to vote ga for lynch-1, so he'd say something.

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Postby wicked on Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:54 am

OK claim time. I'm Kyp Durron. 8)

Fircola, gaga, waiting on you two to claim.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:39 am

Would anyone be so kind and google that name? It's a major pita to browse with a stoneage comp :P
I think you're mistaken with the "claims were dangerous only because of the hunt" line. Not only did Mandy warn about claiming, he warned about MASS claiming. Anyway I do agree on one thing, I'm not sure we can fully trust the jedi claims, at least because of the cult thing.
As for mine well obviously I'm a survivor, and knowing how sadistic Mandy can be, I have reasons to think that the vong might be able to kill me instantly if they know my full identity, so I'll hold off for now.
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Postby wicked on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:43 am

ga7 wrote:As for mine well obviously I'm a survivor, and knowing how sadistic Mandy can be, I have reasons to think that the vong might be able to kill me instantly if they know my full identity, so I'll hold off for now.


How is it obvious? Had you claimed that before (remember I missed half the game..lol)? Anyway, that seems like a fake claim to me. We'll see.
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:49 am

wicked wrote:Have you tracked anyone that's still in this game???


No, everyone I've tracked is dead.

ga7 wrote:Unvote Grr @ Wicked :P
Well, even if you didn't keep your PMs, can we know who you tracked to whom during the game yeah? Name seems like the last Solo missing in any case.


Honestly, I've had next to no luck with the Tracker thing. As strange as it is, this is the first time I've ever been a Tracker. These are just off the top of my head so they might not be 100%, this game's been goin for awhile:

Neutrino was my first Track. He did nothing except "stay home and listen to the Macerana" (I dunno, ask mando)
Then was AK, he went to someone's house (ga7's maybe? Not sure.) but whoever he visited was still alive so I figure he was a cop or doc.
Then Syzygy, nothing.
Then kwan visitied Talapus last night.

I think that was all but I may have missed one. Usually I write down all my night action results also but I've been slackin in this game cuz I was a replacement and didn't expect to make it very far.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:56 am

Well it's obvious because I made reference to it at the beginning of the day :P
The thing is, I can't defend much from a fake claim accusation and that's why I tried my best to defend Serbia as of course his claim was pretty alike to my role, and I knew I could well be next in line. I didn't even want to think about him being scum fake claiming as I could have been as good as dead then :lol:
Anyway, I do prefer a town win as I couldn't play submariner to save my life, and much like in Re-inquisition I still tend to play like a stupid little townie, but the thing that bugs me right now is that out of those alive, I trusted more Fir who hasn't even claimed yet to be town than the 2 claimed jedis and you who is "I don't know till someone feeds it to me'". :P
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:56 am

Selin wrote:Interesting that you didn't die when Luke died.

At least your claim seems to be ok.

From Wiki:

Mara is a strong woman of many talents, with red-gold hair, deep green eyes, and the figure of a dancer.

Is that also true? 8)

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As I mentioned before, mandalorian forgot to tell me about having a husband and never mentioned anything about it to me after he died, maybe he forgot? I don't know on that either but I wasn't gonna say "hey, shouldn't I be dead?" to him. Maybe he was just being nice, firth died immediately after he asked me to replace so maybe he just dropped it.

And I am a woman of many talents with a dancer's figure, that's why firth married me. :oops:
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:59 am

Wait, you tracked Neut and he did nothing but you were one of the first to vote him on day 5, practically causing a bandwagon on him? That's fishy...
And there seems a lot of inactive nights there.
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:04 pm

Ga 7, From Wiki:

His second strike was to destabilize the stellar cluster in which Admiral Daala's two remaining Star Destroyers were hiding (out of her original four, she lost one when Kyp and Han Solo tore through it with the Sun Crusher during their escape from the Maw installation, and the second to Admiral Ackbar in her attack on Mon Calamari); he destroyed one, though he believe he destroyed both. He then proceeded to Carida, believing that there with the threat of the Sun Crusher, he could either retrieve his brother from the Stormtrooper Corps or find out where he had been sent. The Imperials made the mistake of lying to Kyp, telling him that his brother had died. In his fury, Kyp fired a resonance torpedo into the Carida system's sun, ensuring death for the planet within a few hours, and annihilating the Imperial base located there. After he fired his weapon, the Imperials discovered that Kyp's brother was still alive and among the ranks of stormtroopers at the Imperial Academy there. Kyp was unable to save him in time, and fell farther into the clutches of the dark side. While many derided him as a mass murderer, others claimed that Kyp shortened the war and that Carida's graduates would have eventually killed more people than those who perished in the supernova.

After the destruction of Exar Kun's spirit by the other trainees and Han Solo's appeal to Kyp, Kyp returned to the light and went to the Maw to destroy the Sun Crusher. On arrival, he discovered the Death Star Prototype had left the Maw and had destroyed Kessel's moon. Knowing the uses to which the Empire could put a third Death star, Kyp managed to destroy it by luring it into a black hole along with the Sun Crusher, only narrowly escaping by squeezing himself into a message pod thought too small for any human to inhabit. As a result of this, Durron suffered multiple broken ribs, limbs and other heavily damaged bones.

He quickly grew strong in the Force and took on Miko Reglia as his Jedi apprentice. Kyp and Reglia formed the Dozen and Two Avengers – a vigilante group of X-wing pilots. This squadron was one of the first to encounter the Yuuzhan Vong. Kyp lost his squadron and his apprentice to the Yuuzhan Vong, barely escaping with his own life in that encounter.

Although he favors more aggressive tactics than many of the other Jedi, he proves himself a valuable asset in the deadly conflict, as well as continuing to be a divisive figure. He briefly took on Jaina Solo as an apprentice and there were hints of a budding relationship between them, but she lost much respect for him when he tricked her into destroying a Yuuzhan Vong worldship that he claimed was a superweapon.



So it seems he started off kinda shady, then after he saved Jaina Solo from the Dark Side he became 'good' again and was then accepted by the Jedis. The Wiki article was half about him being 'evil', half about him being 'good' so I tried to copy/paste a little of each to show both sides.
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Postby wicked on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:15 pm

wookieepedia wrote:Kyp Durron was a Jedi Master, one of the first to be trained at Luke Skywalker's Jedi Praxeum. Kyp was a powerful Jedi, but his aggressive tactics were often a frustration to Skywalker's attempts to create a respected name for the New Jedi Order.

He briefly fell to the dark side under the influence of the spirit of Exar Kun, an ancient Sith Lord. However, he was later redeemed and accepted back within ranks of the New Jedi Order. He would ultimately become one of the Order's most powerful Jedi and served with distinction in the Yuuzhan Vong War, and later during the Dark Nest Crisis.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:18 pm

Hmm ok thanks. I think the evil part seems pretty meaningless in the current context.
Rereading day 5 now, and something else that is fishy and that I just realized is that Ak 2.0 was mafia doc, and you said he "maybe" visited me. Sounds like you're trying to frame me without putting too much of your hand in it.
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Postby wicked on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:26 pm

Gimpy(Tenel Ka)(Jedi Apprentice)(Double Voter)(Jeedai Cult member)


OK here is the proof that the cult would know the Jedi role PM. So throw knowing that out the window and let's go by how people have acted. And that brings us back to Kalish voting ga. Doesn't get much more scummy than that.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:28 pm

VOTE COUNT

Ga7 (1) - Kalish,
Kalish (1) - Wicked 2.0

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.


May I just say how thrilled I you guys are learning so much about Star Wars. It looks like I have finally menaged to make a positive impact on this world. :D
Mishuk gotal'u meshuroke, pako kyore.

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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:29 pm

ga7 wrote:Wait, you tracked Neut and he did nothing but you were one of the first to vote him on day 5, practically causing a bandwagon on him? That's fishy...
And there seems a lot of inactive nights there.


Go back and re-read Day 5, you are wrong. I was the fourth or fifth to vote him, I followed jnd/Serbia/AD and I agreed with Selin's reasoning at the time. There was plenty of justification for my vote for him then. If you don't think so, go back and look at the posts around the time in question.

If you would have even glanced at that day, you would have known that your accusation of me starting a bandwagon isn't true.

How many times have I said that might not be all of my night actions, I'm not sure. Are you only reading the parts of the posts that suit you? I was a replacement, on day 2 I believe. And I know I missed sending an action when I was gone for the weekend.

To be honest, this post makes you look like a skimmer. You obviously didn't research any of your facts before you posted because not one thing in it is true.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:30 pm

Holy f*ck, page 150 :lol:
And you call that positive Mandy? :P

Some relevant quotes from day 5:
kalishnikov wrote:
Talapus wrote:Wow, I really don't get why some bandwagons develope so quickly for so little. Anyhow, it looks like there are a few people to look more closely at, but there doesn't seem to be much concrete evidence so far.

I really don't see how some people find Selin suspicious though for making that long post...it's Selin, what mafia game is there where he doesn't post stuff like that.

As for skoffin, well....has anybody played a game with her where she posted numerous times in a day? I haven't...

Nuetrino might be a good bet to lynch, but I have to reread. So for now, FOS neutrino.


This is almost exactly what is was gonna say, except I was going to end with Vote: Neutrino.

As for the quick bandwagons, I think it's just for lack of any solid evidence. People are unsure so they just jump on whoever's being voted at the moment, also with the addition of the scum/indies jumping on just to get a lynch.


Anarkistsdream wrote:Kalishnikov... I am a bit bewildered the same as Syzygy.

You bandwagon, then criticize a bandwagon? I'm worried you are double talking yourself. And only two types of mafia players do that- those that are scum and those that are dumb...

So, Kalish... Which are you? :lol:


kalishnikov wrote:I can't imagine Neutrino being a vanilla townie... Post the scene mandalorian, I'm curious.


So, Neut was your first track, you knew he didn't do anything, yet you say there's no real proofs of his innocense and that you doubt he's vanilla. Interesting...
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:32 pm

That's why I said I was rereading the day Kalish, I only looked at the vote records :P Better throw it out there as I know it's gonna be answered soon that way. I know you told you don't remember all actions etc, but that surely doesn't bring much to the table, and the only relevant one you're not sure and say maybe me, so I believe my suspicion is not completely baseless :P
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:33 pm

If your gonna drag up posts from that long ago, go drag up my responses and answer your own questions.

When was AK mafia doc? I remember him as a cop and that's what the First Post says.
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:34 pm

nevermind, I remember about AK.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:36 pm

The only answer you provided was regarding bandwagonning, and I don't care much about that frankly, more about how this relates to your claim.
Ak 1.0 was a cop but we lynched him on day 1. Ak 2.0 was mafia doc, he died night 3 I think...
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:44 pm

ga7 wrote:The only answer you provided was regarding bandwagonning, and I don't care much about that frankly, more about how this relates to your claim.
Ak 1.0 was a cop but we lynched him on day 1. Ak 2.0 was mafia doc, he died night 3 I think...


Yea, after I posted I went back and re-read some, I forgot AK replaced. All I remembered off hand was the whole him lying and getting lynched thing.

Perhaps it wasn't you he visited. I don't know, thus the (maybe?) in the post to which you refer. I thought I remembered it being someone with a number in their name, but I could be wrong, it was a while ago.

What exactly would you like clarification on? I'm not quite following.
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Postby wicked on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:47 pm

Kalish it's your actions that are scummy, so I personally don't need any further clarification, as I'm pretty sure you're scum and am just waiting on the others to come on and vote you. Forgetting who you tracked is quite a convenient excuse. Your voting of ga cinched it for me once I saw the cult would know the Jedi role PM... just waiting for the others to catch up. ;-)
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:49 pm

Basically, why were you in favour of the Neutrino lynch and believing he wasn't vanilla when you knew he wasn't doing anything shady at night?
And yes, I know he was scummy and even claimed death miller or something, but that doesn't explain why you who had knowledge that he wasn't wanted him lynched.
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:51 pm

And ga, you claimed Survivor but never gave us a name. Is it because you can't fake a claim cuz your comp is slow/old (thus why you asked someone to Google for you)?
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Postby ga7 on Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:53 pm

ga7 wrote:Would anyone be so kind and google that name? It's a major pita to browse with a stoneage comp :P
I think you're mistaken with the "claims were dangerous only because of the hunt" line. Not only did Mandy warn about claiming, he warned about MASS claiming. Anyway I do agree on one thing, I'm not sure we can fully trust the jedi claims, at least because of the cult thing.
As for mine well obviously I'm a survivor, and knowing how sadistic Mandy can be, I have reasons to think that the vong might be able to kill me instantly if they know my full identity, so I'll hold off for now.

And then you call me skimmer? Now answer me, punk :wink:
My role pm is in my savebox btw, I can quote it anytime :P
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Postby kalishnikov on Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:07 pm

wicked wrote:Kalish it's your actions that are scummy, so I personally don't need any further clarification, as I'm pretty sure you're scum and am just waiting on the others to come on and vote you. Forgetting who you tracked is quite a convenient excuse. Your voting of ga cinched it for me once I saw the cult would know the Jedi role PM... just waiting for the others to catch up. ;-)


Yea, I wasn't asking you to clarify (notice ga's quoted post in mine) and I pretty much covered everyone that I tracked. Like you'd remember all your night actions over the course of this game plus the 5 or so other's I'm in...

And yea, voting someone so they will talk in a game that nothing was happening in and was getting boring is scummy, I know, you've said it like a hundred times.

I've said all I can and given you a true claim. Lynch me and see is all I can say. But fair warning, I've said the truth. Make SURE you know who your allies are BEFORE I die, if my lynch doesn't end the game, you will be damn close.
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