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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby MeDeFe on Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:13 pm

Skoffin wrote:
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edocsil wrote:Everything is allowed.


Allowed, maybe. Ethical, nope.

skoffin wrote:Not really, mods are free to run games any which way they like.


As a mod, I am free to mod kill anyone who posts more than 4 sentences in a paragraph. Does that make it ethical because I can "run a game however I like"? Also, what is "NPS"?

I'd argue that ethical depends on what the game is and whether the players understood these to be part of the game before joining up, but I suppose this debate isn't appropriate here. I find these discussions interesting though, so maybe I'll bring it up elsewhere. I'll drop the topic here though so as not to detract from the game further. Sorry everyone. :?
I meant to say NPC, whups.


Fuzzy looks like he could be a lyncher, I think it would be worth pressuring him some more. Back in my day, when you hated someone you generally tried to get them destroyed. Wouldn't want to see that happen here.

Aage brings up a point on safari. His actions are those that are often called out as scumtells, but more often than not they are actually noobtells. He needs to cut it out, but I don't think it makes him mafia.

Indeed, but Safariguy is definitely not a noob so that leaves relatively little room for interpretation of his actions.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:12 pm

Streaker wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Well I thought herk had a very helpful post. It did highlight one thing for me anyways, we have a lot of rather inactive people. Incidentally, I do not believe there was confusion over the numbering. It said that we had 22 survivors, but closer examination revealed one of them to be the corpse of Paris Hilton, meaning there are 21 living "survivors".

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Fuzzylogic99 wrote:Hmm I have to relook but I swore that he/she did not post before I voted for him.Then again I kind of scanned the post so I think I might of missed
him/her posting.Anyways he/she is active so Im not going to vote for them.

Hey Jerando do you hate me bc I hate you I dont know why. My role message that I hate Jerando.I thought this was an kind of odd statement for a mafia game.


UNVOTE Jerando


Now that's not very nice! No, my role doesn't say I hate you, but it does mention that some people blame me for the apocalypse, or possibly just professional jealousy?


This sounds like jeraado could be some kind of scientist role. May have abilities or something.


This is the exact reason why I voted safari. He has been consistently pointing out other players who might have powers or abilities, which imo can't be good for the town. He's just making it easy for the bad guys to find a good target. Again.

Thank you for supporting my vote on you.


Again, how am I doing something out of the ordinary. Jeraado himself offered up that "some people blame him for the mess they're in". Also, fuzzy declared that he didn't like jeraado for some reason. Putting 2 and 2 together, jeraado could very well be some sort of miller or something and fuzzy is probably a lyncher who's target is jeraado. I'm just going by what was posted, I'm not speculating or fishing. I fail to see how this is scummy.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby aage on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:55 pm

Skoffin wrote:
theherkman wrote:
edocsil wrote:Everything is allowed.


Allowed, maybe. Ethical, nope.

skoffin wrote:Not really, mods are free to run games any which way they like.


As a mod, I am free to mod kill anyone who posts more than 4 sentences in a paragraph. Does that make it ethical because I can "run a game however I like"? Also, what is "NPS"?

I'd argue that ethical depends on what the game is and whether the players understood these to be part of the game before joining up, but I suppose this debate isn't appropriate here. I find these discussions interesting though, so maybe I'll bring it up elsewhere. I'll drop the topic here though so as not to detract from the game further. Sorry everyone. :?
I meant to say NPC, whups.

I think that as a mod one is free to do whatever one likes, but then shouldn't be surprised to get blacklisted and thoroughly ignored afterwards.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:03 pm

Lynching votes:

fircoal (1) - Mr.s Squirrel.
/ (1) - Tg.
Streaker (1) - safariguy5
MeDeFe (1) - Haggis.
TG (1) - /
Commander9 (1) - Vioiet
Skoffin (1) - herk
Fuzzy Logic (5) - Naxus, Thez, Aage, Edocsil, Campin_Killer
Naxus (1) - tdans
SafariGuy (2) - MeDeFe, Streaker

11votes for lynching.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Fuzzylogic99 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:18 pm

I don't think Im a lyncher unless its a secret thing or something.If I was a lyncher I def wouldn't post I hated Jeraldo after I voted for him .It would make me too obvious .It was added as a side note by Commando.I thought it might mean something so i brought it up.I thought maybe
Jeraldo was a hated townie or something but doesnt sound like it.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:00 pm

Not sure about safaris and the way he has been playing, seems odd for a non-noob but I'll have to re-read a bit more on that.

Think I'll UnVote too as while I still have questions about fuzzys reasoning's I'm not convinced by the "he's a lyncher" BW on him either and I see no need for a rushed lynch atm.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Justinassss on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:33 am

Vote: Fuzzy Logic
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:40 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Can't write miuch as I'm in a BR, but why is everyone glossing over this?

This seems to imply lyncher, which would fit with Jeraado's backstory about being responsible for the apocalypse or something.


Woops, forgot to vote:

unvote vote Fuzzy

Doesn't seem right to me that 1 town member is told he hates another town member. At the very least I'm guessing one of them is 3rd party.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Streaker on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:42 am

Justinassss wrote:Vote: Fuzzy Logic


Why?
Also, you posted a few pages back that, according to you, everyone should vote Fuzzy. Now that there's a bunch of people voting on him, you decide to cast your vote?
Your entire entire case against him has been this: "It is obvious."

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Streaker on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:45 am

EBWOB (almost forgot :oops: ):

Addition to previous post: I know there is a good case against Fuzzy, but all Justin is doing is saying we all need to vote him, without making a case. Then he waits 3 pages to actually vote, what looks like hiding behind other people. That's why I FoS'd.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Justinassss on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:53 am

Streaker wrote:
Justinassss wrote:Vote: Fuzzy Logic


Why?
Also, you posted a few pages back that, according to you, everyone should vote Fuzzy. Now that there's a bunch of people voting on him, you decide to cast your vote?
Your entire entire case against him has been this: "It is obvious."

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I don't know :D I am new in Mafia games. I just want some action :D
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Streaker on Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:59 am

Justinassss wrote:
Streaker wrote:
Justinassss wrote:Vote: Fuzzy Logic


Why?
Also, you posted a few pages back that, according to you, everyone should vote Fuzzy. Now that there's a bunch of people voting on him, you decide to cast your vote?
Your entire entire case against him has been this: "It is obvious."

FoS Justinassss



I don't know :D I am new in Mafia games. I just want some action :D


I am also new in maffia, this is my first game. Yet I put some effort into investigating, and accusing people on a basis of evidence. You randomly vote, and worse: ask for a bandwagon on someone 'because you want action'?

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby aage on Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:38 am

Streaker wrote:
Justinassss wrote:Vote: Fuzzy Logic


Why?
Also, you posted a few pages back that, according to you, everyone should vote Fuzzy. Now that there's a bunch of people voting on him, you decide to cast your vote?
Your entire entire case against him has been this: "It is obvious."

FoS Justinassss

... but it is obvious :P
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Streaker on Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:59 am

Can someone explain to me what it means 'to be al lyncher'? Is it a specific role, or is it just trying to get someone lynched? Maybe I've been misinterpreting the whole situation.

Still, imo fuzzy and safari are the most suspicious people around for now.
It's only a matter of getting them to give us more information, have them defend their cases then?
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Campin_Killer on Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:01 am

The role of a lyncher is this:

A lyncher is told that to win such and such must be lynched
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby aage on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:37 am

Campin_Killer wrote:The role of a lyncher is this:

A lyncher is told that to win such and such must be lynched

e.g.
I´m Campin´s lyncher. In order to win, I have to make sure Campin is lynched, otherwise I lose.

Since there was a reference towards hating someone and since our lyncher has also voted this "hated" person, I believe it to be pretty obvious that we have a serious case of lyncherness.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby theherkman on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:43 am

I think we should search for a better candidate for a lynch. We now are fairly sure of who is a lyncher. I think killing someone who is scum might be a better use of our lynch at this time.

Now I have a question. Is the person to be lynched usually scum or town?
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Fuzzylogic99 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:44 am

Im not going to post amy more on the subject other than to say Im not a lyncher and the random vote was just that, a random vote.I thought that he had not posted. When I found he was active I unvoted for him.The hating part makes no sense since it was tacked on as an extra and has nothing to do with my role .I never played a Commando game so I dont know his style.I just assumed it might mean something but he did not tell me for some reason End of story.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:04 pm

theherkman wrote:Now I have a question. Is the person to be lynched usually scum or town?

Could be either, or third party. I think lynchers tend to be third party, though.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby aage on Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:06 pm

theherkman wrote:Now I have a question. Is the person to be lynched usually scum or town?

Usually it doesn't matter because when we lynch said person the lyncher has won. This question only really matters if the lyncher is killed first...
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby theherkman on Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:13 pm

Ah, I see. Thanks.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Commander9 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:44 pm

Lynching votes:

fircoal (1) - Mr.s Squirrel.
/ (1) - Tg.
Streaker (1) - safariguy5
MeDeFe (1) - Haggis.
TG (1) - /
Commander9 (1) - Vioiet
Skoffin (1) - herk
Fuzzy Logic (7) - Naxus, Thez, Aage, Edocsil, Campin_Killer, Justinas, Haggis.
Naxus (1) - tdans
SafariGuy (2) - MeDeFe, Streaker

11votes for lynching.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Fuzzylogic99 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:44 pm

Hey Comando I think I should be at 5 votes since two unvoted me

Funny how Safari hinted that I might be a lyncher than alot of people jumped on even though little real proof Im one. If I was one than why would reveal my role ? I might be careless at times but Im not careless.

Not saying Safari is scum but his action have been pretty suspicious overall.If he wanted to get me lynch why not accuse me of being a lyncher
He could get a easy lynch and not get his hands dirty

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I dont know what to think of Justin.Hes pretty new so I going to give him some wiggle room but he still a person I going to keep my eyes on

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Fuzzylogic99 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:46 pm

I should Im careless but not that careless
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 1.

Postby Commander9 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:48 pm

Lynching votes:

fircoal (1) - Mr.s Squirrel.
/ (1) - Tg.
Streaker (1) - safariguy5
MeDeFe (1) - Haggis.
TG (1) - /
Commander9 (1) - Vioiet
Skoffin (1) - herk
Fuzzy Logic (6) - Naxus, Aage, Edocsil, Campin_Killer, Justinas, Haggis.
Naxus (1) - tdans
SafariGuy (2) - MeDeFe, Streaker

11votes for lynching.

Sorry fuzzy, missed Thez unvoting, but didn't see any other unvotes.
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