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[jgordon1111]

If sg7 is telling the truth then both he and NG1 need protection.

My question is does SG7 have the full power in this game killing touch and tracking.

because If he does he has the more powerful role. thus all the protection we can give.

If not then we got to figure how to keep both protected.

[betiko]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

Well my reason is kinda weak but anyways I was inactive most the time (need to see why check vacation thread) and when I got back I read through real fast and really didn't have time to send in my night action so I just kinda picked him .i guess that's a pretty bad reason but I'm really bad with that kinda stuff

what was your night action by the way? i tend to kind of believe the hippo for the tracker thing.

unvote, vote something clever


and jg; remember what he said about his alignment; he kind of didn't know at the time. is there a sort of activation? one of the roles of mafia might have been to activate SG7 as another mafia member and it used their NK ability.
About the timing, it almost seems as if the mafia didn't want him to claim his role. they directly used their day kill, which i think is a 1 shot. and then they silenced him. Could they not know he could still send 4 posts? and have the bad surprise to see he could still post?

Otherwise, the more i think about it I think that it does look like a setup on you jg. they make you look scummy by killing ghost that was your principal acuser. and they try to put mud on your back. And try to look townish by saying that new guy is most definitely what he is softclaiming, right the crown?

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I can confirm the mod informed me of shield targeting me last night... Because I am a tracker, a bit odd to have two town trackers in the games, eh hippo?

@ hippo, somewhat of a FOS situation there I believe, but our roles are the most easily provable, tonight, either I should track you, or you should track myself so we may trust each others claim, also our claims today prove nothing, and yours wasn't really needed, since shield admitted he targeted me...

@ Shield, did the mod add a picture or description to your role? If so could you describe your character so we can say with absolute certainty who you are? also, what is your punishment if you disobey this claimed post restriction?

@ newguy, for various reason I found shield to be suspect, like I said, I thought he may have been a cult recruiter, so I wanted to see whom he recruited so we would know who to off after him, as I haven't been informed of recuition, I would say he failed, or is not a recruiter. but if you all still want to test that, and think I've been recruited, PLEASE kill him first.

@ betiko, the role in question makes some sense to be unaligned, searching for Ra's and such, and the kill with a touch thing is... disturbing to say the least. the recruiting like minded people could be cult or mason considering the goal, and in the end is hunting robin, not good.

I have thoughts on the possibilities of the role, but this post in kind of getting long, so I'll start a new new one for that in a little bit.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

Well my reason is kinda weak but anyways I was inactive most the time (need to see why check vacation thread) and when I got back I read through real fast and really didn't have time to send in my night action so I just kinda picked him .i guess that's a pretty bad reason but I'm really bad with that kinda stuff

let me kinda elaborate on this. i chose him cause:
he said he was scum (a joke or not) either he was joking cause he does it alot, or he does it waiting for him to be mafia so he can do it to disguise it (probably not the truth lol just fun to thing about) honestly i didnt see anyone else screaming scum. even thought sg7 wasnt acting really scummy he just seemed the best choice to me.

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@ betiko i dont feel like claiming my role just yet sorry but just cause i visited him isnt a great reason for me to claim since so did two other people

[new guy1]

Well yes the day kill has me a bit confused, but I think it was built into the game, maybe as a random killing. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone had a role change because of it to try and help keep it balanced.

As for 3 people visiting SG7. I thought it would have been expected because of the heat he was drawing at the end of day 1. And what has been explained earlier is that SG7 could have gone somewhere, and by the looks of it he did.

I am not really liking the fact that NG1 came right out with that information, it just put a bullet on his back for a night kill, and helping mafia prioritize who they need to kill off.

I also don't see mafia taking a night off, but I do see the high chance of someone role-blocking, but we also haven't brought up the fact that the target may have been bulletproof, which also would have been very nice, but with no scene to make a reference, it makes it a bit harder to find some flavor of other roles out their.

I figured I should say that 3 people visited, I saw them and that should be known. When he claimed to be silenced, that was even better. And If anyone, I would go with clever because even if he is town he was gone for 4 days. We cant have that on a regular basis, so I will now put my vote in color. Vote Clever

[jgordon1111]

you hit the nail betiko, SG7 not knowing his alliance? I am figuring at most 3 mafia.

one used the daykill.

But put a stop on SG7 because he might be SK who could be aligned niether way. or might come down on their side.

So 2 mafia, 1 sk who goes either way?

NG1 odds are he is a watcher and we need him. Hippo is a tracker?

Question if hippo is a tracker why do we need 2 trackers in one game? Something is off here.

basically with the info on SG7,hippo has more or less counter claimed him?

NG1,betiko your thoughts on this please?

God fastposted by everyone

[jgordon1111]

sorry for double post. WTF 3 trackers?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well yes the day kill has me a bit confused, but I think it was built into the game, maybe as a random killing. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone had a role change because of it to try and help keep it balanced.

As for 3 people visiting SG7. I thought it would have been expected because of the heat he was drawing at the end of day 1. And what has been explained earlier is that SG7 could have gone somewhere, and by the looks of it he did.

I am not really liking the fact that NG1 came right out with that information, it just put a bullet on his back for a night kill, and helping mafia prioritize who they need to kill off.

I also don't see mafia taking a night off, but I do see the high chance of someone role-blocking, but we also haven't brought up the fact that the target may have been bulletproof, which also would have been very nice, but with no scene to make a reference, it makes it a bit harder to find some flavor of other roles out their.

I figured I should say that 3 people visited, I saw them and that should be known. When he claimed to be silenced, that was even better. And If anyone, I would go with clever because even if he is town he was gone for 4 days. We cant have that on a regular basis, so I will now put my vote in color. Vote Clever

if this is your reasoning then you might wanna look in the vacation thread were i explained. it wont happen again since i just bought a laptop as well.

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I believe that if shield's role is indeed the same wanderer that betiko found, then they are likely killing role, or more likely a locked role to be a killing role upon wandering to a certain person, either Robin or a Villain I would think, Ra's is almost certainly this villain, and probably knows this as well.

My guess is that the villains were either A. Informed of each other's roles before hand, or less commonly B. Allowed to talk during the day thus coordinating the timing of the day ending kill immediately after they found out a morally ambiguous killer was looking for someone to buddy up with.

They probably wanted to save shield so he would target them, leading me to believe they thought he was aware of how his action worked, and therefor acted accordingly, as a "friend" so he would willingly join by targeting them, the one person who fits this description as I deduce it is... Leehar!

Leehar has been working very hard to show he is on shield's side, going so far as to throw suspicion an everyone who targeted him, both for a night action, and yesterday for a vote, very peculiar for a townie to honestly believe a person is mafia for suspecting a player who has outright admitted to being not town, I can only think Leehar's actions as logical if he is mafia or some other scummy faction.

Vote leehar

[new guy1]

you hit the nail betiko, SG7 not knowing his alliance? I am figuring at most 3 mafia.

one used the daykill.

But put a stop on SG7 because he might be SK who could be aligned niether way. or might come down on their side.

So 2 mafia, 1 sk who goes either way?

NG1 odds are he is a watcher and we need him. Hippo is a tracker?

Question if hippo is a tracker why do we need 2 trackers in one game? Something is off here.

basically with the info on SG7,hippo has more or less counter claimed him?

NG1,betiko your thoughts on this please?

God fastposted by everyone

My main suspect of who the silencer could be is CLEVER, what is your take on that? I confirm that I am watcher, kinda obvious though, I didnt see where someone else claimed tracker (only the two) and I dont think theyve counterclaimed, but it may be something to check. However, we know that one out of three is the silencer, and therefore we need to pick one.

fastposted- If someone claims to not be town, I would definatly suspect them, and had the day not been ended by a kill, I would have most likely, at that time, lynched him unless he claimed... survivor... would make sense because she survived the spiders and such.

[jgordon1111]

I believe that if shield's role is indeed the same wanderer that betiko found, then they are likely killing role, or more likely a locked role to be a killing role upon wandering to a certain person, either Robin or a Villain I would think, Ra's is almost certainly this villain, and probably knows this as well.

My guess is that the villains were either A. Informed of each other's roles before hand, or less commonly B. Allowed to talk during the day thus coordinating the timing of the day ending kill immediately after they found out a morally ambiguous killer was looking for someone to buddy up with.

They probably wanted to save shield so he would target them, leading me to believe they thought he was aware of how his action worked, and therefor acted accordingly, as a "friend" so he would willingly join by targeting them, the one person who fits this description as I deduce it is... Leehar!

Leehar has been working very hard to show he is on shield's side, going so far as to throw suspicion an everyone who targeted him, both for a night action, and yesterday for a vote, very peculiar for a townie to honestly believe a person is mafia for suspecting a player who has outright admitted to being not town, I can only think Leehar's actions as logical if he is mafia or some other scummy faction.

Vote leehar

Wow I am starting to get scrambled here. But I now have a question for NG1

1. you asked crown who really hasnt said anything up until he answers your direct question, Why because he is new,and you should have known that.

2. the evidence is mostly pointing at SG7 yet your sticking to clever who has explained his absence in the vacation thread. Why?

3. with that in mind why did you do those 2 strange things. Do you know something we dont?

4. I agree with your points about leehar /. Why is he doing that.

5. we have to many claims on the table. Stop claiming please. 3 trackers someone is lying lets focus there. Dont anyone else give up their role please until we figure out who is lying. Mafia is going to have a field day. picking off power roles.

I really do have to type faster fastposted BY NG1 with his role,shit please stop confirming.

[new guy1]

I believe that if shield's role is indeed the same wanderer that betiko found, then they are likely killing role, or more likely a locked role to be a killing role upon wandering to a certain person, either Robin or a Villain I would think, Ra's is almost certainly this villain, and probably knows this as well.

My guess is that the villains were either A. Informed of each other's roles before hand, or less commonly B. Allowed to talk during the day thus coordinating the timing of the day ending kill immediately after they found out a morally ambiguous killer was looking for someone to buddy up with.

They probably wanted to save shield so he would target them, leading me to believe they thought he was aware of how his action worked, and therefor acted accordingly, as a "friend" so he would willingly join by targeting them, the one person who fits this description as I deduce it is... Leehar!

Leehar has been working very hard to show he is on shield's side, going so far as to throw suspicion an everyone who targeted him, both for a night action, and yesterday for a vote, very peculiar for a townie to honestly believe a person is mafia for suspecting a player who has outright admitted to being not town, I can only think Leehar's actions as logical if he is mafia or some other scummy faction.

Vote leehar

Wow I am starting to get scrambled here. But I now have a question for NG1

1. you asked crown who really hasnt said anything up until he answers your direct question, Why because he is new,and you should have known that.

2. the evidence is mostly pointing at SG7 yet your sticking to clever who has explained his absence in the vacation thread. Why?

3. with that in mind why did you do those 2 strange things. Do you know something we dont?

4. I agree with your points about leehar /. Why is he doing that.

5. we have to many claims on the table. Stop claiming please. 3 trackers someone is lying lets focus there. Dont anyone else give up their role please until we figure out who is lying. Mafia is going to have a field day. picking off power roles.

I really do have to type faster fastposted BY NG1 with his role,shit please stop confirming.

Well, if you saw my post then you MUST have seen me ask about CLEVER. I stick with Clever because I believe everyone's roles, and since there was no nightkill I assume that either SG7's role isnt activated, or it is a cult (which we can deal with later). Clever still refuses to claim even though the others have openly come out with their roles. Possibly because he has to come up with a claim? Maybe just cause hes stubborn. But he has 2 votes on him leaving him at L4. Therefore, I would like a claim, since the others claimed with no pressure while he refuses to now.

[jgordon1111]

Ok I see sound reasoning there,on clever.

The other part of the question was why did you ask crown to come in with what he thought. He is new and you should know that.

And yes 3 have claimed roles that are tracker SG7,hippo and now /.

3 trackers in a game someone isnt telling the truth.

[new guy1]

Ok I see sound reasoning there,on clever.

The other part of the question was why did you ask crown to come in with what he thought. He is new and you should know that.

And yes 3 have claimed roles that are tracker SG7,hippo and now /.

3 trackers in a game someone isnt telling the truth.

That was betiko, not me good skimmer Sir.

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I am the Wanderer. I wander past someone each night. Last night I wondered past /. Milkshake PM'd me telling me nothing happened as a result of my night action, so I still don't know what it does.

A very capable martial artist and gymnast able to spar with Tim Drake . She is an expert tracker able to stalk her prey and zone in on them from across the world.

also shield claimed nothing, that was a flavor description by betiko...
I stand by my decision to counterclaim, it is a valid thing to do in a game where role copies are unlikely.

[jgordon1111]

I am losing my mind and getting somewhat confused. I stand corrected I went back to 14 and indeed it was betiko who asked crown.

All questions answered thanks NG1, I thought it was you and honestly it had me worried about you for a minute.

Guys I am going to take a rest,and will see you tomorrow.

please dont anyone else claim.

/ that leaves both you and hippo counter claiming Sg7. I am leaning that sg7 fakeclaimed. and is possible SK

Goodnight all.

[new guy1]

I am losing my mind and getting somewhat confused. I stand corrected I went back to 14 and indeed it was betiko who asked crown.

All questions answered thanks NG1, I thought it was you and honestly it had me worried about you for a minute.

Guys I am going to take a rest,and will see you tomorrow.

please dont anyone else claim.

/ that leaves both you and hippo counter claiming Sg7. I am leaning that sg7 fakeclaimed. and is possible SK

Goodnight all.

Okay, so we can all read and he asked for a mass claim. Lets make him happy when he wakes up in the morning
All jokes aside, I still do not believe SG7 to be as much of a threat as Clever possibly could be. We need his claim since the other two have already claimed trackers and we need another role to go off of as he remains unclaimed even with the other two claimed. I know JG said no more claims, but I see it as nessessary as I have no reason to doubt one of the other claims YET.

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I am losing my mind and getting somewhat confused. I stand corrected I went back to 14 and indeed it was betiko who asked crown.

All questions answered thanks NG1, I thought it was you and honestly it had me worried about you for a minute.

Guys I am going to take a rest,and will see you tomorrow.

please dont anyone else claim.

/ that leaves both you and hippo counter claiming Sg7. I am leaning that sg7 fakeclaimed. and is possible SK

Goodnight all.

Okay, so we can all read and he asked for a mass claim. Lets make him happy when he wakes up in the morning
All jokes aside, I still do not believe SG7 to be as much of a threat as Clever possibly could be. We need his claim since the other two have already claimed trackers and we need another role to go off of as he remains unclaimed even with the other two claimed. I know JG said no more claims, but I see it as nessessary as I have no reason to doubt one of the other claims YET.

Once again, Shield did not claim to be a tracker, shield claimed to not know what his action does and that he targeted me, I counterclaimed Hippo, who had claimed that shield visited me (after the fact that shield claimed to have visited me).

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whoops, sorry, meant to quote jgordon1111

[new guy1]

Yeah, this is true, and Hippo does look scummy, but I would also like Clever to claim before this day ends.

fastposted.

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Leehar-L5 (/)
Some7hingCLEVER-L4 (NG1, Bekito)
jgordon1111-L5 (jak111)

[thehippo8]

Well ... work or Mafia ... which is more important

My take on all this ...

1. SG7 is the wanderer who wandered past /. / is therefore immune to SG7's power or a doctor saved him.
2. I tracked SG7 and can confirm that he visited /. I am a tracker (I would say the tracker but it's possible there are two?).
3. / either has immunity or was protected, either seems pretty townie and his posts would accord with that.
4. / says he is a tracker. This is possible although strange. It may be a false claim? But does that make him scum?
5. Somethingclever was said by Betico to have softclaimed tracker but frankly he did not do that. In fact it was all a bit weasily if you ask me! Possibly scum.
6. Betico's defence of clever (initially at least) was weird and scummy. The vote on clever in no way clears him in my book.
7. NG1??? Frankly I am confused by how he even knew I went near SG7 in the first place. What he's said is unconvincing. Scummy in my book. Not happy about his explanation and must be the silencer. Most likely scum and the vote on clever doesn't clear him either.
8. Betico and NG1 are being too clever by half and clever is their sacrificial lamb. A common mafia tactic.
9. Leehar's posts confuse me too, looks scummy to me.
10. Everyone else looks townie so far.

So, my pick of the crop is unvote vote Betico

[new guy1]

Well ... work or Mafia ... which is more important

My take on all this ...

1. SG7 is the wanderer who wandered past /. / is therefore immune to SG7's power or a doctor saved him.
2. I tracked SG7 and can confirm that he visited /. I am a tracker (I would say the tracker but it's possible there are two?).
3. / either has immunity or was protected, either seems pretty townie and his posts would accord with that.
4. / says he is a tracker. This is possible although strange. It may be a false claim? But does that make him scum?
5. Somethingclever was said by Betico to have softclaimed tracker but frankly he did not do that. In fact it was all a bit weasily if you ask me! Possibly scum.
6. Betico's defence of clever (initially at least) was weird and scummy. The vote on clever in no way clears him in my book.
7. NG1??? Frankly I am confused by how he even knew I went near SG7 in the first place. What he's said is unconvincing. Scummy in my book. Not happy about his explanation and must be the silencer. Most likely scum and the vote on clever doesn't clear him either.
8. Betico and NG1 are being too clever by half and clever is their sacrificial lamb. A common mafia tactic.
9. Leehar's posts confuse me too, looks scummy to me.
10. Everyone else looks townie so far.

So, my pick of the crop is unvote vote Betico

I think you forgot the part where I called you out at the beggining of the day and later claimed watcher. Now tell me how I nailed all 3 of you without the night action to watch SG7. Amuse me please, cause quite frankly I dont see how you possibly think I am not a watcher. I also dont see how you think Im the silencer when I called you three out BEFORE SG7 said he was silenced, therefore you are recommending I may be silencer/watcher??

[thehippo8]

@NG1 ... It's possible you could be watcher and silencer in one. Stranger things have happened. Sorry, I did overlook that watcher claim. I read it then blanked it out when I posted. I agree that unless you are a watcher then you would not know who visited SG7. As tracker I can only see where the person (SG7) goes, not who else is about. But I digress.

I agree that it is highly unlikely that you are the silencer. I will concede that it is more likely that either clever or / are the silencer. I know I'm not! Maybe SG7 was roleblocked and that's why / didn't die. That sounds more likely. So, we need more info from both clever and /. Sorry about that NG1!!

@ Betico, I'd like to hear from you but in light of what I now see as correct I will ...unvote

Sorry, frustration of thinking about work while playing Mafia - can't do either well

[new guy1]

It is alright, I have had worse moments in my play . I agree, it is possible (being me I know its not true) but it is highly unlikely as there is already proving to be an uphill battle with the daykill looming over us which we dont know when or if it will strike again. That being said, I have heard much from hippo, and much from /, but I have seen two posts from Clever. Therefore, I would still like him to post more.