Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life! [2/16] Endgame: Pirates Win!

[jonty125]

SHOW US A CASE instead of words, I want something to go by,

I'm pretty sure a case consists of words . On a more serious note lets have a post by post commentary of you

Vote Sully to put some pressure out there and see who folds.

Post #1 jump on jokewagon, slightly suspicious but their was a lot of people on jokewagons

My vote stays, <.< mine was to pressure between the two and then everyone jumps off when he says something. Till either a new case comes up or he says something more interesting then pretty much 'here' I'm not changing it.

You stay on the VS case, once again nothing of substance from that

Unvote, Vote Isiah
You want a no lynch day? No pressure at all on scum? If we do nothing today we got nothing tomorrow, then we'll just slowly be killed off. So for today, what I've seen so far, Isiah's random posts and want for a no vote make me want to pressure him instead of Sully. You're flying under the radar with useless posts, and trying to turn people to a non-vote. Perhaps to save you a day to kill? I think I'll let you get to L-2 or L-1 before I listen to what you've got to say to this, it'll give you some time to think about it.

Call out Isaiah for no lynch, and then say what would happen if we never lynched. First part OK but if Isaiah were to flip scum it could look like your trying to guide him (WIFOM), then you go and say that by having nothing tomorrow we're all going to die which is a major overreaction.

I was hopping on the bandwagon....have to get this day moving somehow. Our else we just stare at each other.

So you're not going to try and validate your vote for isaiah?

Well not sticking up for nebuchadnezer, but isaiah was the 1st to go for a no vote the second it was suggested. What should we do tomorrow if we have no leads throughout the night to go by? If isaiah is innocent put me up for questioning tomorrow. If he isn't then we got a good 2nd day to start with do we not?

You then further back up your reason for voting Isaiah. You then offer to take to the questioner's chair if Isaiah is town, according to the laws of probability he is so your making a big call there (I know I can say that about everyone).

"Cabin boy" Sounds like everybody's bitch <.< x3. But seriously, you're claiming 'Cabin boy' with no real role. Damn I might as well call myself one eyed timmy, or peg leg sam for that matter. Unless someone can clear ya today. I'm keeping this lynch vote on you isaiah. For anyone who wants to still know why?

1.) Spam
2.) 1st person on the no vote wagon
3.) Unprecise claim of 'Cabin Boy' with no known linked role to it.

I do believe those are the main points I have with him so far, anything else I should add to the list of reasons?

Even more validation of your vote on Isaiah. I'll admit he claimed poorly at first but I would have done that when I was new if I thought I was powerful.

Well, you'd be 'vanilla townie'. Since you did not know that I seriously doubt you are.

You then state the most likely result

Hmm, with L-1 left, who wants to bring down the hammer on him? Just to sorta update the votes.

SPARTACUS1974
crazymilkshake5
isaiah40 - Gilligan, ghostly, jak111, Leehar, thehippo, jonty, Crazymilkshake, Some7hing - (L1)
thehippo8
Victor Sullivan
Some7hingCLEVER
TeeGee
new guy1
ghostly447 - newguy - (L8)
NoSurvivors
Gilligan
kiwi3
Leehar - isaiah - (L8)
jak111
jonty125 - (L9)
Nebuchadnezer - TeeGee, - (L8)

Not voting: Spartacus, Sully, NoSurvivors, kiwi3, Nebuch

With 16 alive it takes 9 to make someone walk the plank.

Deadline: None yet.

(Colors are my edits to what it looks like now)

An updated vote count

We were close to a hammer to test his claim but now you guys are jumping toward someone who is just against isaiah's claim like I am.

Let me point out a few things I saw for the 'bout past page and a half.

Well I have never seen someone do that
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
Ok so if ur tracker town wouldnt vote for you considering town outnumbers mafia there is no need to lie so for this reason my vote stands

So if you are town, you would be willing to lose a tracker who could find out who the mafia are? If you aren't town then you must be mafia, which now I believe you are, or else you would have unvoted. Something interesting to think about. I think we have uncovered one mafia!! So I will now unvote vote Some7hingCLEVER!

Some7hing's post is yet still unclear to me, but I do believe he just means if you were a tracker why would you try to hide it at L-2/L-1. As for your voting isaiah it's all over the place, you have no case against anybody and your willing to just randomly vote against anyone who votes you.

I'm surprised to see I'm in the middle of the Isaiah votes? Did I only fos first?
And heck, cabin boy seems scummy itself as well, I never imagine them to really be happy with their jobs. Maybe a menial power role is possible as well in the vein of investigative watcher or similar I guess? But I don't understand why he seemed so sketchy with his responses?

And what are you talking about, no pressure Spartacus? l-4/3 should be too close enough for comfort?

Yes I am Town, and I fibbed when I said I didn't have a role. I am a tracker, so if those who are town, decide to go ahead and make me walk the plank then you will be fighting blind. I was hoping to try and protect my role from mafia as long as possible. Technically Gilligan unvoted but forgot to place his "unvote" in color. So Doc, I will need protection tonight!

Sully shame on you for being razzed at possibly lynching me!!

unvote we can test his claim if needs be.

Well I have never seen someone do that
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
Ok so if ur tracker town wouldnt vote for you considering town outnumbers mafia there is no need to lie so for this reason my vote stands

Do you have any reason to believe he is not a tracker?

Do you believe isaiah's claim this quickly? Do you have any reason to believe his claim?

As for the testing the claim, I do not wish to let him off today with a feeling he might try to strike me in the night for leading the case against him. But if he does make it through the night I say he tracks me and tells everyone what I am, if he's wrong he's dead...

Like I said, I'd rather not even give him that chance because I might not make it through the night if he's mafia.

Then you WIFOM about whether we can or can't believe Isaiah's claim and you once again makes this bet on that Isaiah is scum

and what reason for voting for me? I am sitting back watching and taking all this in.

Ummm...that would be exactly why. Participate. Contribute. Don't lurk.

I can't figure out Clever's playing style at all. However, I also think he's trying to contribute in his own weird way. That's the whole point of pressuring the inactives. If you let the mafia sit back and do nothing, they will. While the town tears each other up.

Why people are still voting isaiah is beyond me.

And why wouldn't we still be pressuring him? How many games have you been in that mafia tell you they are mafia? Hmm?

That's just stupid beyond descripiton

and what reason for voting for me? I am sitting back watching and taking all this in.

Ummm...that would be exactly why. Participate. Contribute. Don't lurk.

I can't figure out Clever's playing style at all. However, I also think he's trying to contribute in his own weird way. That's the whole point of pressuring the inactives. If you let the mafia sit back and do nothing, they will. While the town tears each other up.

Why people are still voting isaiah is beyond me.

And why wouldn't we still be pressuring him? How many games have you been in that mafia tell you they are mafia? Hmm?

im with you Jak he claimed way to easy and then tried changing his claim to a power role when if he just claimed tracker from the start he would be protected , as it is its way to scummy

Keep note as to who's trying to fend us AWAY from him. They trust someone too easily on here.

Even more WIFOM

and what reason for voting for me? I am sitting back watching and taking all this in.

Ummm...that would be exactly why. Participate. Contribute. Don't lurk.

I can't figure out Clever's playing style at all. However, I also think he's trying to contribute in his own weird way. That's the whole point of pressuring the inactives. If you let the mafia sit back and do nothing, they will. While the town tears each other up.

Why people are still voting isaiah is beyond me.

And why wouldn't we still be pressuring him? How many games have you been in that mafia tell you they are mafia? Hmm?

How many games have you been in that you lynched the player that acted the scummiest on D1, and he was actually mafia? Remember, it is day 1. Mafia is not sticking their necks out there on Day 1. They are most likely all turtled up and hiding in the background, perhaps throwing an obligatory post with no real meaning.

Well since this is my 2nd game where I've started on day 1... that didn't happen my first game, we voted for a person because he was inactive. GUESS WHAT! He was a power role <.< on town side...

So this time I'd like to go after someone who's leaving so many scum slips in the first day it's funny to think otherwise.

Newbies often unintentionally make scum slips (I used to when I was new)

I love how many people are PROTECTING Isaiah's claim, either isaiah is scum or someone who is helping him is. Or both.

Here let me break it down for you.

-You tell him to investigate someone and they turn up dead he will just say that the mafia killed him for either we pointed him/her out or because it was a random mafia kill
-His role without having any investagators (If you are one shut up for at least 2 days so you can get us some damn info) cannot be proved right. <.< Sure he could investigate someone and he says something, the other person says something different, either of them could be mafia, who are you gonna believe and risk killing your own? And a tracker is worthless in my eyes 50% of the time <.< What if someone with an investagator role visits someone the same night as the mafia, are you gonna risk killing a good legit power role?

So if you believe him now and he turns out to be mafia, and you don't know about it because you chose to believe him, are you gonna kill someone else by what he says? Or he's good and he checks someone who might've been bussed (happened in our last game because I bussed two people, a and the tracker targeted one person who targeted who I switched the targeted person with that he saw him target himself due to the bussing BUT he targeted the other person that I bussed as well, not seeing who THAT personn targeted in the first place) so he gets an innocent person targeting someone who was killed but in reality he was really checking the other bussed player... See where I'm going? Tracker can be useless at times and good at others.

Until someone can confirm his role legit, I'm going to keep my lynch vote on him. His role to me in my one full game experience isn't as powerful as you all try to make it out to be, it can be turned around and kill innocent people, or what I'm thinking and a few others are, is that he's making it up... Who's to say there IS a tracker in the game?

So how can I know if Isaiah is town with me. I can't at the minute. But claiming wathcer has the risk of counter-claim and it's a potential powerful role. That is why people are protecting him. You then say "Are you gonna kill someone else by what he says". Potentially, yes. If isaiah tracked me & the person I visited died I can't be doc and could be the killer. A smart tracker would follow me again to confirm his suspicions if I visited no-one and someone died then it was just a coincidence. The bussed is WIFOM. You then ask if someone can confirm his role, this is extremely scummy as your are role fishing and are trying to make a case on the idea of mafia (can you tell the difference between truth and lies) and then use even more WIFOM to suggest there isn't a tracker in this game.

Who's to say there isn't?

For the exact reason to say that there may not be one.

Assuming there's a tracker in the game is like assuming there's a busdriver, a hitman, a bulletproof, etc... We can't know for sure...

But what we CAN know is how scummy he was up to the claim, which even that if there was a tracker I'd think of him more as the captain or someone else, not a cabin boy.. A cabin boy sounds like what safari was in our last game, a hider. Not a tracker. Like I said when I started my case against isaiah, if in the lynch scene he turns out to be town, question me in the mourning, but if he doesn't just be thankful we have one less mafia to deal with.

Right now if I wanted to with how foolish you are all acting I could fake claim the captain and say I'm an investagator... <.< You'd be foolish enough to believe me. Which is sad. But as I am not I will not claim that, and what case have you been working on jonty BESIDES coming up with excuses for isaiah? What have any cases many of you been working on? SHOW US A CASE instead of words, I want something to go by, not someones lousy "It's not me" thing. Otherwise I guess it's not a single one of us mafia if we all believed each other, eh? The mafia would just come out and be like "Hey yea, you know I kill you in the night time, its me, come and get me" -.-...

Yes he was scummy up until the claim, that's how he got L-2 genius . Then you try and play the mod, very risky strategy. And then you ask me to provide a case which I would struggle to say with a straight face that you have.

My vote stays with him for a lot of reasons.

Yes!!! First time I get to use this! Jak, your entire argument is...wait for it...WIFOM. All we have to go on is his claim. Everything else is guessing. By your argument there are no good power roles as they can all be blocked, bused, etc. and I explained why I initially voted him...and I was right on. I'm not sure what your added "pressure" will do. He's claimed. Do you want him to claim again? Maybe put it in fancy letters...

He could well be mafia, but we've got info on his claim as well as votes on record. Push for the lynch if you will, but I won't be in on it. Does that make me mafia? Or a townie who wants info from another source?

^ THIS is not applicable to the argument, you're trying to put words into peoples' mouths. At this point if others are willing to help I want him lynched. Sure we might be wrong, but if we knew when we were wrong and when we were right we'd win every time would we not? The fact stays not from what his claim is, but how scummy he was about his claim and the scummy-ness leading up to it. 4nd n0 1 d0 n0t w4nt f4ncy l3tt3r5. (<.< Ok, that just sickened me to type like that...) I want someone I can trust/believe/no scum slips/and no beating around the bush... To come up into this roulette going 'round and 'round to come up with a solution, or another legit case. I'm all for the inactive people but WHO are all the inactives? Which shall we pressure? Which do YOU think are most scummiest? Here's the list of inactives I'd have...

5. Victor Sullivan (Same as TeeGee)
7. TeeGee (was active 4-5 pages ago for a post or two.. <.< Not very active)
10. NoSurvivors (Last post was 8 pages ago...)

Bordering inactivity but made a few posts in the later pages...
new guy1 (Paintball)
ghostly447 (same thing as new guy)
Spartacus1973 (I suspect he's reading, but last time he posted was 3-4 pages ago)

Unvote, Vote NoSurvivors
If you're all up tight about isaiah I'll give him a single night chance to find out something for us, which obviously since everyone knows now what he is, he better not lie or it's walking the plank tomorrow.
As for No Survivors... Checking the pages back he's barely said a word, less then ANYONE else in here.. Let me count... he's made 6 posts (That includes the 3-4 completely off topic or sign up posts) in total.. If you want someone to pressure for laying below the radar there's our man.
<.< If any of you bitch about this vote I'll have my eye on you, if all you want is to vote for inactivity because you don't wanna work on the players atm, this is our biggest inactive..

Then you're a hypocrite. "My vote stays for lots of reasons" and then procede to vote NoSurvivors. I have no problem lynching the inactive but I do have a probelm with your most recent post. And then say I want someone I can trust/believe/no scum slips/and no beating around the bush. So you're looking for the perfect player

So for the above reasons unvote vote jak111

[SPARTACUS1974]

No that's just being weird Isaiah! From my perspective my vote is on you because you claimed as a cabin boy then claimed as a tracker and generally acted scummy. Whilst I can appreciate that you are not happy about the vote, put yourself in my shoes. Would you believe you from this point on? How would you prove to you that you are not scum? What plan have you got that could possibly help the rest of us? What would you say you should do in your shoes?? That is, enough with the flailing and give me something so I can trust you for the future!!

And admittedly hippo, considering this is only my 3rd mafia game, and I'm still getting used to this, I did act a little scummy, though not on purpose. So yes I am not happy, but I only have myself to blame, and I accept the consequences of my slightly noob actions. As for my claim of cabin boy/tracker, that is a true claim.

you said only your 3rd mafia , well after the first you should know not to claim so easy and when you do claim dont keep changing it coz that does look real scummy .
my vote stays on you and i am keeping a check on those who keep defending you.

[isaiah40]

No that's just being weird Isaiah! From my perspective my vote is on you because you claimed as a cabin boy then claimed as a tracker and generally acted scummy. Whilst I can appreciate that you are not happy about the vote, put yourself in my shoes. Would you believe you from this point on? How would you prove to you that you are not scum? What plan have you got that could possibly help the rest of us? What would you say you should do in your shoes?? That is, enough with the flailing and give me something so I can trust you for the future!!

And admittedly hippo, considering this is only my 3rd mafia game, and I'm still getting used to this, I did act a little scummy, though not on purpose. So yes I am not happy, but I only have myself to blame, and I accept the consequences of my slightly noob actions. As for my claim of cabin boy/tracker, that is a true claim.

you said only your 3rd mafia , well after the first you should know not to claim so easy and when you do claim dont keep changing it coz that does look real scummy .
my vote stays on you and i am keeping a check on those who keep defending you.

Well let's see, my first mafia I was mafia, so I didn't have to claim anything until later in the game. The second I made a counter claim, which got the first person lynched - who turned out to be the godfather - and then because of a noob mistake, i was killed because the doctor didn't protect me. And I didn't change my claim, I only gave half of it at first, then gave the other half after I was pressure some more. But that's okay, we can agree that we are keeping our votes on each other. Not a problem on my end.

[jak111]

Well, jonty, want to play the pick at every post game, eh?

Confirm. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

-Sully

Sorry to hear about this Sully!

Argh! must be ye first time on a ship landlubber!

Me thinks jonty took a caulk! If he doesn't come to, I unvote, vote jonty fer a good keel hauling, else he walks the plank!!

Just because I couldn't make it yesterday I'm at L-1!!!! Somebody unvote before I start swearing.

And major FOS Isaiah for putting me here

Hate FOS?

Well now, I only removed my vote from jonty so as not to get him lynched before we found out who he is. But seeing as he hasn't said anything else other than "I'm here", I'm going to have to vote jonty again. So jonty it is time to speak up or else you'll be walking the plank!!

I LAST POSTED 24 HOURS AGO!!! IS THIS NOT ENOUGH IN THE JOKEVOTE STAGE!!!

vote Leehar for trying to force a claim from a joke case and the largest FOS on Isaiah for his constant attempt to lynch me

BOOM!!

Still putting pressure on isaiah because he's voting for you?

force a claim? Why else would people put you at l-2? You're being very omgus as well tho

And Isa, you're doing the same kind of dithering as the now absent Hippo?

Are you unable to see the case on me was just a massive BW

Vote 1

BOOOOOOOM!

vote kiwi3

for no particular reason

EBWOP

Vote Jonty! For failing to get his first post correct!

Vote 2

BOOOOOOOM!

vote kiwi3

for no particular reason

EBWOP

vote jontifor hurting my eras with his booom

Vote 3

vote jonty[color=#000000]
for supporting stoke[/color]

Vote 4

[color=#FF0000][color=#FF0000][color=#FF0000]Vote jonty125 [/color][/color][/color] to make him at L-5

Vote 5

Confirm. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

-Sully

As far as tall tales and low tactics go, this is the whizz!!

unvote vote jonty ... bring it on lubber!

Vote 6

unvote vote jonty save yersef an' come ou' an' join us
Ya scallywag!

Vote 7

Confirm. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

-Sully

Sorry to hear about this Sully!

Argh! must be ye first time on a ship landlubber!

Me thinks jonty took a caulk! If he doesn't come to, I unvote, vote jonty fer a good keel hauling, else he walks the plank!!

Please tell me how on earth, I ve been scummy to get to L-2.

Let us know tackle the OMGUS issue.

Confirm. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

-Sully

Sorry to hear about this Sully!

Argh! must be ye first time on a ship landlubber!

Me thinks jonty took a caulk! If he doesn't come to, I unvote, vote jonty fer a good keel hauling, else he walks the plank!!

Just because I couldn't make it yesterday I'm at L-1!!!! Somebody unvote before I start swearing.

And major FOS Isaiah for putting me here

I FOS'D isaiah for what I thought was putting me at L-1 (in fact L-2) because putting someone @ L-1 is v. risky as scum can speedhammer (L-2 still is taking a joke too far)

You said this

He did comment the day before tho? So now that you pushed him so far for seemingly no reason, Are you guys really letting him off without claiming? :s

It was a jokewagon that go out of hand this is the main reason I voted you because you are treating this as if it was based on scumtells

MAJOR freak out by you because Leehar was trying to get some info out of it, so you wanted to put FOS on him so you would not have to bear any of it.

I was hopping on the bandwagon....have to get this day moving somehow. Our else we just stare at each other.

So you're not going to try and validate your vote for isaiah?

He did, he mentioned the pirate talk (Spam as I put it)

So Isaiah is claiming VT???

BOOM!!! [color=ff0000]unvote vote Isaiah[/color] for 1) claiming a VT 2) the reasons for voting him aren't half bad when you stack them up next to each other and not see them as a lot of one-offs

So you're back to helping us vote for isaiah? ;o I see you wanted him dead from earlier when he voted for you.

I'm surprised to see I'm in the middle of the Isaiah votes? Did I only fos first?
And heck, cabin boy seems scummy itself as well, I never imagine them to really be happy with their jobs. Maybe a menial power role is possible as well in the vein of investigative watcher or similar I guess? But I don't understand why he seemed so sketchy with his responses?

And what are you talking about, no pressure Spartacus? l-4/3 should be too close enough for comfort?

Yes I am Town, and I fibbed when I said I didn't have a role. I am a tracker, so if those who are town, decide to go ahead and make me walk the plank then you will be fighting blind. I was hoping to try and protect my role from mafia as long as possible. Technically Gilligan unvoted but forgot to place his "unvote" in color. So Doc, I will need protection tonight!

Sully shame on you for being razzed at possibly lynching me!!

unvote we can test his claim if needs be.

ok so if you guys come up with a good foolproof way to test him ill unvote but until then im staying with this cause he is just way to scummy

Alas, nothing is foolproof with night actions without a massclaim and everyone to be telling the truth and scum to all claim VT's (or to be counterclaimed)

So you admit we could be wrong or right, BEST POST BY YOU BY FAR!


To sum up your last quote, because I don't want to hurt anyone's eyes with all that.

Vote Sully to put some pressure out there and see who folds.

Post #1 jump on jokewagon, slightly suspicious but their was a lot of people on jokewagons

Funny, you jumped on the isaiah wagon as well a bit later on.

My vote stays, <.< mine was to pressure between the two and then everyone jumps off when he says something. Till either a new case comes up or he says something more interesting then pretty much 'here' I'm not changing it.

You stay on the VS case, once again nothing of substance from that

Yes, to get info, read it again before saying "Nothing of substance".. Info is a lot of substance I think.

Call out Isaiah for no lynch, and then say what would happen if we never lynched. First part OK but if Isaiah were to flip scum it could look like your trying to guide him (WIFOM), then you go and say that by having nothing tomorrow we're all going to die which is a major overreaction.

Is it jonty? Is it? Besides, if you read carefully YET AGAIN... you would've seen I said we won't have much to go on tomorrow. Which I AM RIGHT. <.< Without info today, we will not be much further tomorrow.

You then further back up your reason for voting Isaiah. You then offer to take to the questioner's chair if Isaiah is town, according to the laws of probability he is so your making a big call there (I know I can say that about everyone).

Yes I do offer to take the questioner's chair, it is a big call because unlike you I have the balls for a risk. So far I haven't seen you with the guts for anything this game, not even this post I am quoting now has any real bravery in it. More of a hiding in a hole method that I am finding quite amusing.

Even more validation of your vote on Isaiah. I'll admit he claimed poorly at first but I would have done that when I was new if I thought I was powerful.

I do believe you were calling someone out earlier because they were not validating their vote, yet when I validate mine you take it as bad? Sorry for sticking my neck out there to bother posting why I believed he should be lynched, sorry I taken the time to write paragraph after paragraph to even bother helping out when there's people in this game (Like you) Who don't even try and help with a single.. excuse my language... (F'ing word) case to go toward anyone. So SORRY for taking already hours of my life actually reading through this game and posting helpful things to help you and others out through voting or otherwise.

You then state the most likely result

No, I posted an imaginary result consisting of what happens if I put magic and a horse together I get a pretty unicorn...

An updated vote count

How was this quote even useful? Why would you include an updated vote count as evidence? Are you really just trying to nit=pick at posts you don't even have a case for, or even anything useful to say about it? That was a wasted reply to a quote of mine that I took even a fraction of a second to read.

Then you WIFOM about whether we can or can't believe Isaiah's claim and you once again makes this bet on that Isaiah is scum

Yes I put my neck out once again to try and get us somewhere in the game so we can get more info whether he was telling the truth or not, if he was then yes, I don't mind being questioned, if he wasn't we were right (Well not you, because so far you've been a hypocrite)

That's just stupid beyond descripiton

How so? We should ask everyone here if their mafia, and by some magical trust we have in them and some decent honesty they'll flat out tell us who they are.

So how can I know if Isaiah is town with me. I can't at the minute. But claiming wathcer has the risk of counter-claim and it's a potential powerful role. That is why people are protecting him. You then say "Are you gonna kill someone else by what he says". Potentially, yes. If isaiah tracked me & the person I visited died I can't be doc and could be the killer. A smart tracker would follow me again to confirm his suspicions if I visited no-one and someone died then it was just a coincidence. The bussed is WIFOM. You then ask if someone can confirm his role, this is extremely scummy as your are role fishing and are trying to make a case on the idea of mafia (can you tell the difference between truth and lies) and then use even more WIFOM to suggest there isn't a tracker in this game.

I actually admit, I don't know how to defend from such BS. you know as well as I (or at least I hope you do) The buss and tracker, yea I am making guesses. That's what this game is about at the start, guessing, trying, and making cases at the start. Has every game you played in had a tracker? If no one counterclaims it could mean because there isn't A tracker to counter claim it. Then you go on and say I want someone to claim their role? Where did I say such thing? I just said I wanted to know if anyone could confirm HIS role. They don't need to say what role he is, but whether whoever he says they visited was right or wrong. There are multiple ways to prove he's town. But you're single tracked minded..

Yes he was scummy up until the claim, that's how he got L-2 genius . Then you try and play the mod, very risky strategy. And then you ask me to provide a case which I would struggle to say with a straight face that you have.

He was still a bit scummy afterward in my eyes, he got to L-2 because people believed in what I said for the reasons for voting him. Why did I make a case on him? Well because of those reasons, and because unlike you've been, I have been trying to help out the town in a USEFUL way. You haven't really bothered making any cases only following others until now with this entire post I am still replying to, which you use your reasons because I am being rational and trying to make cases or at least ask for some legit cases? Sorry for expecting fellow townies to actually put 2 minutes or less into make a short, simple case that's even remotely possible to go by instead of posting why we shouldn't do the one thing we can do at the moment.

Then you're a hypocrite. "My vote stays for lots of reasons" and then procede to vote NoSurvivors.

How am I a hypocrite, I said I wanted cases on other people if we were to let isaiah live a night so we can find out some info, so instead of wasting my time hoping someone decides to get a scratch on their freshly manacured (or however it's spelled) fingernails to type something I come up with another case of my own, because again I'm not single minded, I have my eyes open to everything and anyone.

I have no problem lynching the inactive but I do have a probelm with your most recent post. And then say I want someone I can trust/believe/no scum slips/and no beating around the bush. So you're looking for the perfect player

Not exactly the perfect player, but a player who isn't laying back doing nothing, posting once in a while at least, posting USEFUL (and I put many empathesis on that word...) information on a case, which in all your big post there I've failed to see. Mind you my replies to the post aren't all that much better especially to your older quotes because the older ones are more in the past then what's going on RIGHT NOW! Hell if someone gotta be called perfect to be a useful townie/player to the game, so be it. I just call them a person/player

So for the above reasons unvote vote jak111

An updated vote count

Yes young grasshopper... I can see your reasons being very valid indeed... Your reasons are almost have this magical aura about them that just make them so orgasmic I just want to hold them forever.


Okay, enough joking around. Replying to that was fun but now it's a bit boring XD... Seriously, I do want some good cases to sift through from your guys perspectives so far. But right now I have 3 cases I'm going with and I'll list them in order.

1.)Jonty- Major FOS: I think with his recent post he's -Spammed quotes (I'm a hypocrite there, but in my defense I was replying to his big one) -Generally spammed (The quote about my vote count update was spam in general, nothing of importance or even anything beasides vote update was said about it?)

Not much else can be said about him right now with recent posts, but I love how he's picking on the most active guy here right now with nonsense. Yes I pretty much leaded the case of isaiah, which even to isaiah I did have my reasons and posted them in short point form for all to see them clearly (Not beating around the bush like jonty just did above)

2.) NoSurvivors- Inactivity: Hasn't posted for many pages, and hasn't posted anything of real value... even a cent worth.

3.) Isaiah- Same as earlier: But with a bit less pressure from me anymore for today, I'll give him his chance, hopefully he watches me so I can tell everyone whether he's truthful or not. In my eyes he's less scummy than jonty is at the moment. At least Isaiah has been posting useful posts to try and defend himself. Jonty and a few others have neither posted anything of much value, defended anyone with any value, nor made any cases with any value.


Until I see what's going on through the rest of your heads Unvote for now. Shall we go today with jonty? inactive NoSurvivors? Isaiah? Or someone else I haven't made a full case for yet?

I'll stick my neck out for any one of ya's just at least post something useful and don't turn out like jonty with all that spam, now thinking about it it sickens me to have wasted my time replying to the troll.

(And a side note: Gonna be back later tonight, going to a friends place to bake cookies into pokeballs o.o) So hopefully someone has posted something useful in the mean time.

[jak111]

EBWOP
Well hopefully you all can see where I put my replies in that big quote o.o didn't think it's look like THAT after spending over an hour or so on it.

[jonty125]

EBWOP
Well hopefully you all can see where I put my replies in that big quote o.o didn't think it's look like THAT after spending over an hour or so on it.

Now it looks like I've said the stuff you're saying .

[thehippo8]

I think Jak sticking his neck out is a fair compromise to any concerns that may have been raised, let's see what happens overnight with that one. I think that Isaiah's post was very honest and coupled with a lack of counter-claim indicates he may be for real. So I will unvote as well.

I share some minor concern about Jonty but I think it's too early to tell whether that's just an unease with his language or a genuine concern. So, this being day one it's back to pressuring the inactives and I vote NoSurvivors.

[jonty125]

Hate FOS?

Care to explain why?

Still putting pressure on isaiah because he's voting for you?

I pressured him for voting someone who was "inactive" 'cos they hadn't posted in 22 hours.

MAJOR freak out by you because Leehar was trying to get some info out of it, so you wanted to put FOS on him so you would not have to bear any of it.

No offense, to Leehar but I was trying to explain that I was taken to L-2 through a jokewagon. Town claiming is bad because a) if I'm a power role mafia can roleblock or kill me and town organising certain protections gives mafia more infomation b) if I'm not a power role, mafia can by a process of elimination have a smaller pool of people who can be power roles. I am not saying town should never claim. And they should claim when they reach L-2 through a case as they can be protected as its better than cop being protected than being lynched

He did, he mentioned the pirate talk (Spam as I put it)

Spam, is mass posting fluff. And if someone got lynched for a) having fun, b) PR, c) "getting into character" then they are playing with a pretty desperate town

So you're back to helping us vote for isaiah? ;o I see you wanted him dead from earlier when he voted for you.

Wrong. I thought he was claiming VT which should be lynched as this mean mafia can't play a safe claim (okay, it requires a cop investigation but claims aren't often tested like that). It forces mafia to claim a role with a night action so it can be tested and potentially rumbled

So you admit we could be wrong or right, BEST POST BY YOU BY FAR!


To sum up your last quote, because I don't want to hurt anyone's eyes with all that.

Yes, but Some7hingCLEVER made a tongue-in-cheek comment and I was trying to make sure it didn't escalate with a serious tone and it wasn't such an offense to the eyes.

Funny, you jumped on the isaiah wagon as well a bit later on.

You jumped on the VS wagon because other people were getting on it. I would have voted Isaiah in that position if there was no votes on the wagon. However you cannot say the same.

Yes, to get info, read it again before saying "Nothing of substance".. Info is a lot of substance I think.

I believe you have misunderstood me. When I said "Nothing of Substance" I meant I wasn't able to use that post in my reason for voting you.

Is it jonty? Is it? Besides, if you read carefully YET AGAIN... you would've seen I said we won't have much to go on tomorrow. Which I AM RIGHT. <.< Without info today, we will not be much further tomorrow.

An amazing observation Isaiah never actually voted for a no lynch, merely suggested it

Yes I do offer to take the questioner's chair, it is a big call because unlike you I have the balls for a risk. So far I haven't seen you with the guts for anything this game, not even this post I am quoting now has any real bravery in it. More of a hiding in a hole method that I am finding quite amusing

Well, I've only ever tried that tactic (lynch him and if I'm wrong I'll take the blame) once and that was when I was scum ... so you know. I don't believe I'm in a hidey-hole but my house is relatively small. If you're finding the game amusing then I'm glad you are, as I am because its a while since I've defended from this many attacks in D1 (low quality yes but high quantity)

I do believe you were calling someone out earlier because they were not validating their vote, yet when I validate mine you take it as bad? Sorry for sticking my neck out there to bother posting why I believed he should be lynched, sorry I taken the time to write paragraph after paragraph to even bother helping out when there's people in this game (Like you) Who don't even try and help with a single.. excuse my language... (F'ing word) case to go toward anyone. So SORRY for taking already hours of my life actually reading through this game and posting helpful things to help you and others out through voting or otherwise.

Yes I did call out someone for not validating which is probably on a par with bad validation for voting. When you say I don't bother helping out. Well I believe your scum so by confronting you I believe I'm helping. Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, I posted an imaginary result consisting of what happens if I put magic and a horse together I get a pretty unicorn...

I'm pretty sure it's a narwhal and a unicorn but I'll double check with my Biology teacher

How was this quote even useful? Why would you include an updated vote count as evidence? Are you really just trying to nit=pick at posts you don't even have a case for, or even anything useful to say about it? That was a wasted reply to a quote of mine that I took even a fraction of a second to read.

It was a commentary of all your posts as you would be at my neck saying I only picked the best of the crop if I took a select few. I aren't using the VC for a reason in voting you but if you'd like I can make up some extreme WIFOM

Yes I put my neck out once again to try and get us somewhere in the game so we can get more info whether he was telling the truth or not, if he was then yes, I don't mind being questioned, if he wasn't we were right (Well not you, because so far you've been a hypocrite)

Care to provide evidence on my hypocricy

How so? We should ask everyone here if their mafia, and by some magical trust we have in them and some decent honesty they'll flat out tell us who they are.

You're quite sarcastic aren't you?

I actually admit, I don't know how to defend from such BS. you know as well as I (or at least I hope you do) The buss and tracker, yea I am making guesses. That's what this game is about at the start, guessing, trying, and making cases at the start. Has every game you played in had a tracker? If no one counterclaims it could mean because there isn't A tracker to counter claim it. Then you go on and say I want someone to claim their role? Where did I say such thing? I just said I wanted to know if anyone could confirm HIS role. They don't need to say what role he is, but whether whoever he says they visited was right or wrong. There are multiple ways to prove he's town. But you're single tracked minded..

Most games this size have had a tracker. I thought when you meant can someone confirm his role you wanted the person to stick their hand up now and say "I'm a role cop I can check him". Multiple way prove his town yes, yes there is 1) Night Actions Adding Up 2) Alignment Cop 3) Role Cop 4) Cheating 5) Veritaserum

He was still a bit scummy afterward in my eyes, he got to L-2 because people believed in what I said for the reasons for voting him. Why did I make a case on him? Well because of those reasons, and because unlike you've been, I have been trying to help out the town in a USEFUL way. You haven't really bothered making any cases only following others until now with this entire post I am still replying to, which you use your reasons because I am being rational and trying to make cases or at least ask for some legit cases? Sorry for expecting fellow townies to actually put 2 minutes or less into make a short, simple case that's even remotely possible to go by instead of posting why we shouldn't do the one thing we can do at the moment.

Well no-one majorly stood out as scum who hadn't already been addressed, until you challenged me to find some one so I had a brainstorm and guess who came up Top of The Pops

How am I a hypocrite, I said I wanted cases on other people if we were to let isaiah live a night so we can find out some info, so instead of wasting my time hoping someone decides to get a scratch on their freshly manacured (or however it's spelled) fingernails to type something I come up with another case of my own, because again I'm not single minded, I have my eyes open to everything and anyone.

You said you were going to do one thing then proceed to do the near the opposite, that is hypocritical

Not exactly the perfect player, but a player who isn't laying back doing nothing, posting once in a while at least, posting USEFUL (and I put many empathesis on that word...) information on a case, which in all your big post there I've failed to see. Mind you my replies to the post aren't all that much better especially to your older quotes because the older ones are more in the past then what's going on RIGHT NOW! Hell if someone gotta be called perfect to be a useful townie/player to the game, so be it. I just call them a person/player

I wouldn't say I'm laying back doing nothing

So all-in-all pretty weak responses. Fastposted by thehippo8.

[Leehar]

vote NoSurvivors.
I always like going for inactives when nothing better is in the offing

[jak111]

Hate FOS?

Care to explain why?

You put FOS ONLY because he voted for you. You know it's true.

You jumped on the VS wagon because other people were getting on it. I would have voted Isaiah in that position if there was no votes on the wagon. However you cannot say the same.

I can say the same, I would've voted for information, which I do believe earlier you quoted me saying so.

An amazing observation Isaiah never actually voted for a no lynch, merely suggested it

Me thinks that no one walks the plank.

Well, I've only ever tried that tactic (lynch him and if I'm wrong I'll take the blame) once and that was when I was scum ... so you know. I don't believe I'm in a hidey-hole but my house is relatively small. If you're finding the game amusing then I'm glad you are, as I am because its a while since I've defended from this many attacks in D1 (low quality yes but high quantity)

Who's attacking you? You made a huge post quoting pretty much every thing I ever said, attacking each one. Get your facts straight.

It was a commentary of all your posts as you would be at my neck saying I only picked the best of the crop if I took a select few. I aren't using the VC for a reason in voting you but if you'd like I can make up some extreme WIFOM

That's terrible commentary. I'd rather hire Peter Griffin as my commentary person <.< I wouldn't be at you're neck if you only commented on a few, I'd be thanking you of an eye sore of wasted "Commentary" space.

Care to provide evidence on my hypocricy

vote Leehar for trying to force a claim from a joke case and the largest FOS on Isaiah for his constant attempt to lynch me

Yes, but in Greek mafia I was at L-2 once again off the jokevoting stage the case was dropped because there was no case. Tell me honestly if you were put at L-2 because you were an entertainment mod would you claim??

1.) you were trying to force Leehar to claim when you did not?
2.) A bit further down the last quote's page you asked someone to validate their vote. Well right now I want you to validate your vote in a short point form. Is that really hard or too much to ask? I do believe I asked that in my last post.... a validated reason.

You're quite sarcastic aren't you?

FINALLY, someone understands me... If we all tell the truth (Ok, this is gonna be complete bs, don't get your panties in a knot anyone) I am the ship's anchor, for two nights I can "drop the anchor" 1 port side and the other stern side, which blocks out every action made that night.... <.< Would you really believe that claim? I lol'd just thinking about if that was real XD

Well no-one majorly stood out as scum who hadn't already been addressed, until you challenged me to find some one so I had a brainstorm and guess who came up Top of The Pops

Well I give you props for trying. I really do, but is there any other cases you even have a tad bit info on at all?

You said you were going to do one thing then proceed to do the near the opposite, that is hypocritical

It is if I truly said that. I meant when I said my vote stays to be past tense sounding. I still have my eye on isaiah no matter what or where my vote is at the moment. But for now I think what the hell, no one's really gonna help hammer him so might as well give the guy a chance since it was at the beginning most of my case on him popped up. As I'm sure your 'watchful all seeing' eye has noticed over my case of isaiah, you can see whowas participating it and not, no?

And if you mean earlier when I said I was only going to vote Isiah I changed my mind to letting him live with the above reason mostly. You know, when my brain is actually working it does have this little brainstorming bubble inside it that works like a clockwork cog set up that goes 'round and 'round until it finds a solution to something (sometimes its slow or its fast)

Am I not allowed to change my vote for my own reasons? You've changed your vote in this game as well, should I nit pick at the reasoning behind each change?

I wouldn't say I'm laying back doing nothing

You took that like I meant I was talking to YOU about laying back, that was in general. Don't take it all personal because it won't go too far when you're dealing with me.

So all-in-all pretty weak responses[/jonty125]

I do believe I mentioned they would be in the last quote you quoted eh?

Not exactly the perfect player, but a player who isn't laying back doing nothing, posting once in a while at least, posting USEFUL (and I put many empathesis on that word...) information on a case, which in all your big post there I've failed to see. Mind you my replies to the post aren't all that much better especially to your older quotes because the older ones are more in the past then what's going on RIGHT NOW! Hell if someone gotta be called perfect to be a useful townie/player to the game, so be it. I just call them a person/player

I pretty much just said that the older quotes aren't much good to reply to because they're a lot older, + I didn't take that much time to reply to it because to be honest, an hour to reply to it was wayyy too much time, I wasn't about to take longer just to make it pretty for you.


As far as these long posts go I'm trying to sum it down, and I hope if you keep doing these you do as well. Because if it keeps up it will be a wast of yours and my time fighting back and forth. I have FOS on you you have FOS on me, we can't really dig up much more info digging at each others posts like this. Especially when I'm sure you and I are tiring of this.

And for my inactivity reasoning with NoSurvivors, even you have to admit, it's funny, he hasn't posted for ages... No excuses... He's been laying low for every case, the isaiah one, and the one between you and I. We've been in these 2 main cases over the period of a few days and he hasn't even attempted to reply... If he's scum do you think we're letting him by too easily with this? As for the other inactives their time will come, but NoSurvivors is the biggest inactive in the game so far. Sully, Gilligan, and a few others haven't really been all that active, but Gilligan is probably busy being the Entertainment Coordinator and all, Sully said he's ill, and ghostly, and another said paintballing (Which the weekend is over so hopefully their replies start to add up a bit more)

[jak111]

Oops, EBWOP
Vote NoSurvivors
I for one want him to be active a bit, or perhaps he's forgotten this game completely.

[soundman]

Vote count:

SPARTACUS1974
crazymilkshake5
isaiah40 - CMS, some7, spartacus - (L6)
thehippo8
Victor Sullivan
Some7hingCLEVER - isaiah - (L8)
TeeGee
new guy1
ghostly447 - newguy - (L8)
NoSurvivors - jak111, thehippo, Leehar - (L6)
Gilligan
kiwi3
Leehar
jak111 - jonty - (L8)
jonty125
Nebuchadnezer

With 16 alive it takes 9 to make someone walk the plank.

Deadline: None yet. We'll see how this day goes.

[kiwi3]

what about Tee Gee has anyone heard a peep from that one?

[new guy1]

alright, as far as jak and jonty's arguement it was annoying because i spent minutes trying to pick apart what they were both stating in their posts just to find another long ass message to sift through to no avail. i have ultimatly decided that playing paintball in the middle of a game leaves no time to actually remember things and read things to the fullest extent and so i am confused as hell . now, as for my vote. i am putting it on teegee, because as kiwi has said, i do not believe i have seen any post by them or i have only seen a few to which were not important enough to remember. vote teegee

[crazymilkshake5]

Actually TeeGee has posted recently, but not no Surv, there fore, Unvote Vote No Surv.
and i request a prod on him.

[crazymilkshake5]

EBYOP
Even though i really really hate to remove my vote from Isiah... im going for the inactive.

So what exactly does the tracker do?
does it say if a action was done?
or does it tell the Side of the person?
or does it Tell the role?

[new guy1]

oh, well in that case, vote no survivors as he is innactive... apparently. sorry again, i would not know, ive had to catch up on many games and so have lost track of activity levels.

fastposted- idk if this is correct, but he either watches someone and sees who they visit, or he watches someone and sees who they visit (im assuming it is the first one and the second is a watcher, but thats what im confused on.).

[Victor Sullivan]

My, my...

vote NoS

-Sully

[isaiah40]

oh, well in that case, vote no survivors as he is innactive... apparently. sorry again, i would not know, ive had to catch up on many games and so have lost track of activity levels.

fastposted- idk if this is correct, but he either watches someone and sees who they visit, or he watches someone and sees who they visit (im assuming it is the first one and the second is a watcher, but thats what im confused on.).

Hmmm ... you said the same thing., maybe that's why you're confused!! But the tracker targets someone and follows them around to see who they visit, while the watcher targets someone and waits and watches to see who visited his/her target.

[new guy1]

oh, well in that case, vote no survivors as he is innactive... apparently. sorry again, i would not know, ive had to catch up on many games and so have lost track of activity levels.

fastposted- idk if this is correct, but he either watches someone and sees who they visit, or he watches someone and sees who they visit (im assuming it is the first one and the second is a watcher, but thats what im confused on.).

Hmmm ... you said the same thing., maybe that's why you're confused!! But the tracker targets someone and follows them around to see who they visit, while the watcher targets someone and waits and watches to see who visited his/her target.

im so sorry. i am losing it . that is exactly what i meant to say, at least i thought what i wanted to say, its just putting it down thats the hard part

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well, I'm glad the Jonty/Jak111 debate is over. It really just turned into a mud-slinging contest...quite a waste, actually.

Is there a way to tell if a player has even logged in to CC in the past few days? We can pressure NoSurvivors all we want, but if he has just disappeared, he'll never respond. How long do we give him before he's replaced?

I'm going to hold my vote for now. Why? Because I can. I may change my mind if he responds to the prod.

[jak111]

alright, as far as jak and jonty's arguement it was annoying because i spent minutes trying to pick apart what they were both stating in their posts just to find another long ass message to sift through to no avail. i have ultimatly decided that playing paintball in the middle of a game leaves no time to actually remember things and read things to the fullest extent and so i am confused as hell . now, as for my vote. i am putting it on teegee, because as kiwi has said, i do not believe i have seen any post by them or i have only seen a few to which were not important enough to remember. vote teegee

Yea, sorry I couldn't post a warning, pretty much we were fighting back and forth over theories and general bs :3 Glad someone actually read all of that though.

As for the rest of it going so far haha new guy And glad your back.

And yes Crazy, the tracker watches someone and IF they perform a night action the tracker will see who they targeted. But that's all.

[jak111]

Well, I'm glad the Jonty/Jak111 debate is over. It really just turned into a mud-slinging contest...quite a waste, actually.

Is there a way to tell if a player has even logged in to CC in the past few days? We can pressure NoSurvivors all we want, but if he has just disappeared, he'll never respond. How long do we give him before he's replaced?

I'm going to hold my vote for now. Why? Because I can. I may change my mind if he responds to the prod.

Finally something I CAN help with, usually you can but it shows a blank on his, luckily he did a SPEED game TODAY

Game 10698865

So he's been active, just laying low <.< We'll make him talk ~Says in a medieval torturer voice~

[jak111]

EBWOP
Sorry forgot this info as well
search.php?author_id=537680&sr=posts
He seems to be at least a little active in the forum as well... Just not this one..

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well, I'm glad the Jonty/Jak111 debate is over. It really just turned into a mud-slinging contest...quite a waste, actually.

Is there a way to tell if a player has even logged in to CC in the past few days? We can pressure NoSurvivors all we want, but if he has just disappeared, he'll never respond. How long do we give him before he's replaced?

I'm going to hold my vote for now. Why? Because I can. I may change my mind if he responds to the prod.

Finally something I CAN help with, usually you can but it shows a blank on his, luckily he did a SPEED game TODAY

Game 10698865

So he's been active, just laying low <.< We'll make him talk ~Says in a medieval torturer voice~

Thank you jak111...VOTE NOSURVIVORS