Random Historical Mafia(The Gunpowder Plot); Town Win!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I never understood people who wait with their thoughts. PT you should have wrote what you think about Mitch right away, not prolonging it even more while saying you didn't have time last week. Bad things happen when you wait too much. Crap.

His thoughts are just as good as anyone elses and no more or less accurate. It is easy to lament his loss because we now know he was Town doc.

I do find it odd he was chosen for death. He would have been at the top of my list to look at today along with other low profile players from yesterday.

Or why someone has died after likely targetting Dakky....

So is Dakky still lynchproof? Or was it one-shot?

you seem to be saying you was expecting it to be dakky... just like last round im still ticking to my gut vote wingcommander

Are you a joker?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

EBWOP

*Jester

[TimWoodbury]

nope not a jester why do you ask

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

nope not a jester why do you ask

You seem determined to get yourself lynched

[TimWoodbury]

nope not a jester why do you ask

You seem determined to get yourself lynched

nope but you seem determined at the end of D1 to lynch dakky and the way you came out of the gates D2 you seem determined to still go after him D2. my gut says your bad news

[Iron Butterfly]

Tim now that we have a couple of names, one real and the other claimed but named, what was your theory or thought in regard to names on Day 1?

[madmitch]

I believe Tim is on the right track,WCG is acting scummy, and this notion that he can't find his name is hard to accept.FOS Wing.

[TimWoodbury]

Tim now that we have a couple of names, one real and the other claimed but named, what was your theory or thought in regard to names on Day 1?

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my theory is that the characters are alignment related. Henry Percy, 9th Duke of Northumberland was parliament so he can call him good, Bu's character King James can also call good so im thinking im onto something with th characters being allignment related

[BuJaber]

I believe Tim is on the right track,WCG is acting scummy, and this notion that he can't find his name is hard to accept.FOS Wing.

I dunno man.. We definitely need to lynch scum, and I appreciated that you and Tim are trying to build a case... but Wing? I don't see it. He claims the whole name thing was an error; he asked William for clarification and when he got it, he said that his name is now easily google-able. Would a player like Wing really do all that as an act? You know how much stuff like that brings unwanted attention. I know as much as anybody else how easy it is to get on someone's radar for oversharing your inner thoughts. So I think he did in fact not know who he is (NAME-WISE).
As for ALIGNMENT, that is a different story. He could be a confused scum, I won't deny that. However, simply asking if pt may have targeted dakky and got killed as a result is reasonable. But to answer his question, I do not think pt was killed for that. I reckon scum just got lucky. They went for someone who wasn't talking much and struck gold killing the doctor. (The other scenario would mean that pt saved their actual target, AND that target was indeed dakky as he predicted). I highly doubt any scum would go after dakky. At least not day 1. None of us have even made up our mind about him, why would scum waste a kill on him?

I'm not comfortable with Ragian's level of activity. At this point the only one I feel is probably town is Mets. And if we assume that lynchproof scum is too overpowered then dakky would have to be town too.
I don't like how mitch and Tim is playing; but then again that's pretty much who they are and how they always play from what I've seen, so I don't know what to think about them. I do like that people are FOS'ing IB and Wing because they are dangerous players. IB is being helpful but is saying mostly obvious stuff without talking too much or building any big cases, which for me is always a red flag because it's a good way to stay under the radar. The biggest thing he did was fishing for a complete claim for me which can be done by town or scum because it helps both.
I'm leaning town for Wing based on meta alone. I have nothing else on him yet.

Until more information is revealed, I will go with my gut. IF you think I'm town and are willing to trust my instinct, vote with me.. or present a better case against someone else. I will change my vote if I'm convinced.
So FOS IB and Vote Ragian.

[gregwolf121]

I'm waiting for a wasted lynch since you won't accept my reasoning. Mitch likes to hammer... Mitch where are you?

Bu, don't save me from a lynch. Instead, if there is a doctor, protect me.

I don't trust Bu & Mets at all.

dakky this post of yours confused me, one the one hand you say you don't trust Bu, but at the same time you seem to believe his claim, you asked him not to save you from a lynch. so which is it do you believe BU's claim or not?

second question is for madmitch, before pt died he said he was going to build a case against you, so is that why he ended up dead?

Can we have a final vote count please William?

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All three of you are allowed to make a single post this night. So do so.

First off you don't know if I am being sat during those times which I was. Secondly, as I said work was crazy last week anywho, right now I am feeling mitch to be scummy. I am putting together a much longer post which will go into day 2.

Pt

[dakky21]

dakky this post of yours confused me, one the one hand you say you don't trust Bu, but at the same time you seem to believe his claim, you asked him not to save you from a lynch. so which is it do you believe BU's claim or not?

Read my older posts. I believe there is a King, but I don't believe BU is a governor as I said multiple times. He may not even be a King. Don't know why you are skimming through posts and why you were absent last few days. If it comes to you, you will be hammered by me, don't even question that.

Mitch on the other hand is acting weird again, just like in just finished "War on terrorism" mafia game, where I had him cornered, but that is all meta. Currently I'm deciding who to vote of you two. Mitch being super weird again and you being absent for D1 Endgame, waiting for my lynch. Either of you will get a hammer if it gets to it.

I dunno man.. We definitely need to lynch scum, and I appreciated that you and Tim are trying to build a case... but Wing? I don't see it. He claims the whole name thing was an error; he asked William for clarification and when he got it, he said that his name is now easily google-able. Would a player like Wing really do all that as an act?

BU, believing Wing is possible, but we all know that Wing is an experienced player and he could easily be scum while making up something like that. BU, don't believe him straight out. Then again, BU & Wing could be a scum pair, so I don't trust them at all. Not saying they're scum, but it's possible. Just keep open eyes people.

I was sure I'd get killed this night, but it didn't happen so Mets was probably right about me being not the best scum target.

for now,

vote gregwolf121 for skimming through my posts

[gregwolf121]

definitely wasn't skimming, and no i didn't forget that you think the king having the role of governor was weird. by that post i quoted though it also sounded like you had started to believe bujabers claim, where as earlier in the day you didn't. basically you seem to be saying you both believe him and that you don't, i'm trying to figure out which it is. i guess i could have worded the question better.
and i do apologize for not posting i was going back through the day and taking more notes, i had hoped to finish before the day ended but well i didn't.

[Iron Butterfly]

I believe Tim is on the right track,WCG is acting scummy, and this notion that he can't find his name is hard to accept.FOS Wing.

I dunno man.. We definitely need to lynch scum, and I appreciated that you and Tim are trying to build a case... but Wing? I don't see it. He claims the whole name thing was an error; he asked William for clarification and when he got it, he said that his name is now easily google-able. Would a player like Wing really do all that as an act? You know how much stuff like that brings unwanted attention. I know as much as anybody else how easy it is to get on someone's radar for oversharing your inner thoughts. So I think he did in fact not know who he is (NAME-WISE).
As for ALIGNMENT, that is a different story. He could be a confused scum, I won't deny that. However, simply asking if pt may have targeted dakky and got killed as a result is reasonable. But to answer his question, I do not think pt was killed for that. I reckon scum just got lucky. They went for someone who wasn't talking much and struck gold killing the doctor. (The other scenario would mean that pt saved their actual target, AND that target was indeed dakky as he predicted). I highly doubt any scum would go after dakky. At least not day 1. None of us have even made up our mind about him, why would scum waste a kill on him?

I'm not comfortable with Ragian's level of activity. At this point the only one I feel is probably town is Mets. And if we assume that lynchproof scum is too overpowered then dakky would have to be town too.
I don't like how mitch and Tim is playing; but then again that's pretty much who they are and how they always play from what I've seen, so I don't know what to think about them. I do like that people are FOS'ing IB and Wing because they are dangerous players. IB is being helpful but is saying mostly obvious stuff without talking too much or building any big cases, which for me is always a red flag because it's a good way to stay under the radar. The biggest thing he did was fishing for a complete claim for me which can be done by town or scum because it helps both.
I'm leaning town for Wing based on meta alone. I have nothing else on him yet.

Until more information is revealed, I will go with my gut. IF you think I'm town and are willing to trust my instinct, vote with me.. or present a better case against someone else. I will change my vote if I'm convinced.
So FOS IB and Vote Ragian.

Instinct has nothing to do with having a case, which you have all but admitted you do not. In other words your gut means shit.
It seems several are FOSing me for not pushing a "BIG"case against anyone and yet cant find crap themselves so they expect me to pull it out my ass? Meanwhile you were all agreeing on my sage wisdom in pointing out why The opening scene matters.

FOS is a waste of fucking time so stop acting like it means something. You have a case post it. If you dont stop acting like someone else should because you don't.

Vote Mitch I get tired of him playing like an idiot savant and getting a free pass because he is "Mitch"and his "meta" He has pretty much piggy backed on other people this game to beyond the point of annoyance...so yeh...

[HotShot53]

PT getting killed while posting that he was going to make a case on mitch I think is more than a coincidence. Combined with the meta case dakky is trying to bring (and I can see parts of), I think mitch is the most likely scum at this point, so I will vote mitch

If mitch does turn up scum, IB would be my next suspicion.

[Iron Butterfly]

PT getting killed while posting that he was going to make a case on mitch I think is more than a coincidence. Combined with the meta case dakky is trying to bring (and I can see parts of), I think mitch is the most likely scum at this point, so I will vote mitch

If mitch does turn up scum, IB would be my next suspicion.

you guys crack me up.

[HotShot53]

PT getting killed while posting that he was going to make a case on mitch I think is more than a coincidence. Combined with the meta case dakky is trying to bring (and I can see parts of), I think mitch is the most likely scum at this point, so I will vote mitch

If mitch does turn up scum, IB would be my next suspicion.

you guys crack me up.

I just realized you voted mitch right before me... so I'll retract that conditional FOS

[madmitch]

@ I.B. did you just call me the rainman? sorry I am such an annoyance. I am going to follow the only true townie so far The King and VOTE RAGIAN now I am going to have some bacon and eggs.

[Iron Butterfly]

@ I.B. did you just call me the rainman? sorry I am such an annoyance. I am going to follow the only true townie so far The King and VOTE RAGIAN now I am going to have some bacon and eggs.

Yeh and your a good driver to.

So again why are you following someone based on no case?And why would be Bujaber be the only true Townie over say Dakky??

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

PT getting killed while posting that he was going to make a case on mitch I think is more than a coincidence. Combined with the meta case dakky is trying to bring (and I can see parts of), I think mitch is the most likely scum at this point, so I will vote mitch

If mitch does turn up scum, IB would be my next suspicion.

you guys crack me up.

Mitch and Tim appears to be buddies and Tim seems desperate to be lynched, so am comfortable with both!

Vote Mitch

I am still unclear why there are votes on me.

[ptlowe]

Good luck town sorry I wasn't more help day 1....

[BuJaber]

Ragian is scum. I suspect him a lot in every game I've played with him so far. That means I probably give him more attention than most. I feel confident my reads on him are improving with time. People who are highly analytical and strategic like him tend to need more to go on. He is also very deliberate in his voting. However, this time he voted incredibly quickly. First post joke vote, second vote on me. No sharing of thoughts in between or fishing for info. I don't know yet who the others are.

IB - This ^ is my case against Ragian. I don't have anymore than that because there literally isn't any more. It's not like I can fabricate stuff. How do you catch scum who don't make mistakes? Gut feeling or process of elimination. Too early for process of elimination. Most of mafia is about feelings. Because actions are hidden. In other bluffing games actions are not hidden so it's a lot more analytical. You say I am expecting too much from you and that's probably true, but then you hold me to the same standard.

For the record.. It's all about gauging reactions. Yes, I did suspect you, but now I'm thinking maybe I was wrong. Similarly, I don't think people unvoted for me because they necessary believed my words, but they probably read something in my tone/reaction.

I FOS when I want people to pay attention to a particular player. You are a more experienced player than I, so if you don't think it does anything then I won't waste time with a FOS anymore.

Mitch can you claim now please? I don't really think we need to wait until L-2. It's not day 1 anymore. People can confirm/contradict what you say earlier. Especially if the same thing that happened with pt happens again and people don't get a chance to post.

dakky did you target someone in the night?

[madmitch]

@ I.B. I also believe Dakky is town with unlynchable ability , and granted on day 1 I was really unclear about BuJaber, but since no one counter claimed I believe him now and will use my ability to protect him.I really don't want to fully claim yet and would like to hear from more players.

[dakky21]

PT getting killed while posting that he was going to make a case on mitch I think is more than a coincidence. Combined with the meta case dakky is trying to bring (and I can see parts of), I think mitch is the most likely scum at this point, so I will vote mitch

If mitch does turn up scum, IB would be my next suspicion.

You tried to hammer me despite the possibility of mislynch or no lynch after I claimed lynchproof. Now you're bandwagoning onto Mitch's case, solely on my meta.

If mitch does turn up scum, you would be my next suspicion. Kill your partner to look pro-town. Nice idea.

@ I.B. I also believe Dakky is town with unlynchable ability , and granted on day 1 I was really unclear about BuJaber, but since no one counter claimed I believe him now and will use my ability to protect him.I really don't want to fully claim yet and would like to hear from more players.

Do you even read what is written? Did we discuss the possibility that the real King didn't counter-claim in order to stay hidden and not reveal himself to mafia? It's a possibility. But yet you trust BuJaber. And you will protect him? How will you protect him and from what?

As you would say... the hell with it... unvote vote madmitch

Too many unanswered questions and too many slips you made plus my meta is telling me something is wrong here.

[madmitch]

@ Dakky , I could also protect you now if I wanted, I wasn't saying I was protecting Bujaber as king but as town, if the king dies the game is not over the same as Harry potter dying the game still played on,as you all know the object is to get rid of scum,and Ragian is as good as anyone, still weary of Mets and wing.

[dakky21]

@ Dakky , I could also protect you now if I wanted, I wasn't saying I was protecting Bujaber as king but as town, if the king dies the game is not over the same as Harry potter dying the game still played on,as you all know the object is to get rid of scum,and Ragian is as good as anyone, still weary of Mets and wing.

Mitch you're digging your own grave. How do you know the game is not over if the King dies? Why is Ragian "good as anyone"? You don't care who will be lynched? Keep digging, you're doing it good.