Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[joshzam]

I'm new to this game and I'm sitting back quietly seeing how it's played and trying to follow everyone else's logic. I did speak up and voted to lynch Halrob when I agreed that he wasn't being straight with everyone. I will probably vote against him again unless something else comes up. For now I'll hold my vote.

Duke, did you learn anything last night?

[joshzam]

General Bax, did you learn anything last night?

[Dukasaur]

Duk is the other almost-no-show with only one post. Did he decide to send in his night action?

First, who are you referring to? Dukasaur or DukeHazzard?

Sorry, I was referring to Dukasaur

As Pixar pointed out, traffic posted absolutely nothing of value on D1. But he still posted more than actorday, cdbridges, Dukasaur, DukeHazzard, General Bax, PepeAtila, and TheJonah.

degaston, there were EIGHT people who posted f*ck all yesterday (two are now dead), and you single out "Duk". Why are you only curious about his night action and nobody else's?

I kept a spreadsheet. Cofari posted 0 times and was mod-killed. There were four who only posted once: Dukasaur, cdbridges, General Bax, and TheJonah, who is dead. "There is no sight of cdbridges and General Bax", whatever that means. Is it just that that didn't send in their night action, or is something else going on with them?

That leaves Dukasaur.

I don't "know" him, but I know that he is extremely active on the site, and has played Mafia here before. From a post search, the only other players who have completed games here are *Pixar*, pershy, Ragian, and me, though it appears some have played somewhere else before. I'm curious about all the players who contributed little during D1, but I can't really call out all of them, and I had higher expectations for him.

Yeah, I had higher expectations for myself also.

I had really forgotten just how much time Mafia consumes. Yes, I've played it before (4 times), but there was only one game where I was a meaningful contributor to the result. In the other three games I was killed too soon to gain much experience.

[Darin44]

WOW!!!
Just WOW!!!
don't know what say

I don't think that if you're town and you have 1 kill for the whole game you kill night 1.
Why? I
I think you either killed someone else and you lie to cover up a town kill, or you might be the 24th role.

About the 24th role, and knowing Raz, we might all have to work together against that one.

Regarding Pershy, chanakram and Maxleod, it's a bit polarised, I think they either killed or saw the kill.

I already explained why I felt urgency to kill Night 1. Our Doctor was a no-show, we couldn't get any votes together even though multiple players were acting suspicious as hell not even able to defend themselves, and Raz had indicated this would be a high-kill lobby to keep up the tempo.

I chose Loose Canon because look at a composite of what he posted Day 1:
A) He immediately jumps on a bandwagon to kill Dunk with very little ground to stand on
B) All of a sudden, when it's halrob's turn on the chopping block, he skirts away and doesn't budge off Dunk? That to me was a WTF

I was not wrong that he wasn't town so I actually don't regret my choice to kill him.

Regardless, I could easily point the finger back at you for being so quick to question me (thank you Josh & dega) but I actually don't think you are scum, even considering your strange message you brought forward and being named as the informant by Halrob.

I don't know about anyone else, but I think there is significant urgency on this Day 2 to try to get a lynch going. And if I look back at the posts, traffic was noticeably absent from the vote against Halrob when he could have easily bandwagoned. Why would he do that unless he knew Halrob's allegiance to Mafia? That is my best clue to go on, unless whoever killed traffic is able to come forward and give us more knowledge.

Vote halrob

(Also, who killed Jonah and why?? He was very passive and could have easily helped Town with the Day 1 lynch on Halrob but wasn't even helping us do that despite being a weaker Town role...so that kill to me is also a huge question mark. Was he on anyone's radar?)

I know if I can trust fusibaseball. but I thank I agree with fusibaseball

Vote halrob

[degaston]

Yeah, I had higher expectations for myself also.

I had really forgotten just how much time Mafia consumes. Yes, I've played it before (4 times), but there was only one game where I was a meaningful contributor to the result. In the other three games I was killed too soon to gain much experience.

Did you send in a night action? I'm wondering if that was why there's no sight of General Bax and cdbridges, or if something else is going on.

[DukeHazzard]

I'm new to this game and I'm sitting back quietly seeing how it's played and trying to follow everyone else's logic. I did speak up and voted to lynch Halrob when I agreed that he wasn't being straight with everyone. I will probably vote against him again unless something else comes up. For now I'll hold my vote.

Duke, did you learn anything last night?

Nothing I didn't already know

[i-andrei]

I'm new to this game and I'm sitting back quietly seeing how it's played and trying to follow everyone else's logic. I did speak up and voted to lynch Halrob when I agreed that he wasn't being straight with everyone. I will probably vote against him again unless something else comes up. For now I'll hold my vote.

Duke, did you learn anything last night?

Nothing I didn't already know

What does that mean?

We have just 5-6 people contributing here and the rest lurking around.
I will vote halrob.

Vote halrob64

[General Bax]

having a power does not meant you HAVE to use it.

sometimes restraint is no less powerful.

the information i learned last night is already out in the thread.

[PepeAtila]

We should compare spreadsheets after the game is over.

You should update your spreadsheet to note that while actorday, DukeHazzard, and PepeAtila may have officially posted once or twice, they have added exactly ZERO value to the game. This is as scummy as not writing anything at all. They all need to speak up, start playing, and help Town, or get lynched.

It is your point of view. Clearly I cannot write too much because of my english.

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After this first night there are 50% of town, 25% of 3rd party, 25% of mafia (death and I guess more or less the same proportion of alive).
I guess Mafia only know about mafia members, and also 3rd party, but towns are blind, because of that I guess most of people who vote halrob owns once of this groups.
On the other hand for the same reason now we know fusibaseball says him to killed Loose Cannon

I will say that I am responsible for Loose Canon's death. This kill was "viewed" by another player in the darkness but I do have knowledge of who. I'm town but had the ability to kill one player across the entire game, and I was positive that he was scum.

So I guess him is not 3rd party... but I dont believe he is 'town', because if he can kill one player across the entire game, and already did, why we need him?

should I vote lynch ?

[joshzam]

It is your point of view. Clearly I cannot write too much because of my english.

Don't worry about this. Either write however you like and we will understand, or throw it all into Google Translate. Your writing skills are not important, but your participation is.

After this first night there are 50% of town, 25% of 3rd party, 25% of mafia (death and I guess more or less the same proportion of alive).
I guess Mafia only know about mafia members, and also 3rd party, but towns are blind, because of that I guess most of people who vote halrob owns once of this groups.
On the other hand for the same reason now we know fusibaseball says him to killed Loose Cannon

I will say that I am responsible for Loose Canon's death. This kill was "viewed" by another player in the darkness but I do have knowledge of who. I'm town but had the ability to kill one player across the entire game, and I was positive that he was scum.

So I guess him is not 3rd party... but I dont believe he is 'town', because if he can kill one player across the entire game, and already did, why we need him?

should I vote lynch ?

We don't know the portion of Mafia alive. It's not always obvious or the same. Also, it's very rare (in most games) that Town has a kill ability. If they do, they can probably only use it once. Town's strength is their vote to lynch and their ability to share information.

Are you Town, Pepe? Can you kill? If not, why do we need you?

[Ragian]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think there is significant urgency on this Day 2 to try to get a lynch going. And if I look back at the posts, traffic was noticeably absent from the vote against Halrob when he could have easily bandwagoned. Why would he do that unless he knew Halrob's allegiance to Mafia? That is my best clue to go on, unless whoever killed traffic is able to come forward and give us more knowledge.

Vote halrob

(Also, who killed Jonah and why?? He was very passive and could have easily helped Town with the Day 1 lynch on Halrob but wasn't even helping us do that despite being a weaker Town role...so that kill to me is also a huge question mark. Was he on anyone's radar?)

This!!

I wanted him on L-2 D1 for a claim at least, but loads of people - including traffic - held their votes back. Loose Cannon too. Neither were town. vote halrob It takes ten to lynch, and I believe that we're halfway there. We should at least get a claim and go from there.

Re: Jonah
Maybe it is a mafia kill that was thought to go unhindered? As you said, he didn't really contribute (real life swamped) so maybe scum thought that he would be left alone by everyone else.

[Ragian]

Real life note:
Also, I would like to add that the forthcoming weekend is quite busy for poor ol' me. I'll do my best to contribute as much as I can (and play my three active games), but I'm a better mafia player come Monday.

[*Pixar*]

Slight feeling someone knows something and is not sharing lol But for now I'm good with getting a claim from halrob

Vote Halrob

[Razorvich]

VOTE COUNT - DAY 2

fusibaseball - halrob64
Darin44 - halrob64
i-andrei - halrob64
Ragian - halrob64
*Pixar* - halrob64

You need 10 votes for a lynch

[halrob64]

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

[i-andrei]

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

I am not Mafia.
The missing email saga keeps getting more and more absurd.

[pershy]

TtzzzztTTTTTzzzzxxxxxxPrrrrrrr

[joshzam]

For the record, and as degaston has confirmed with his own test, Conquer Club messages cannot be deleted from your inbox once they are received. If you read it, there is no way that you come back later and find it "deleted". This is not a functionality of CC messages. I'd like to hear halrob explain this.

And if we can't explain this, I will vote to lynch halrob. And if he flips Mafia, that would clear i-andrei as Town in my books. But not until then.

[degaston]

For the record, and as degaston has confirmed with his own test, Conquer Club messages cannot be deleted from your inbox once they are received. If you read it, there is no way that you come back later and find it "deleted". This is not a functionality of CC messages. I'd like to hear halrob explain this.

And if we can't explain this, I will vote to lynch halrob. And if he flips Mafia, that would clear i-andrei as Town in my books. But not until then.

He already stated that he could not explain it:

Like I said,
I had a message in my box that was already deleted and then I had a message regarding a Mafia informer, which then disappeared and showed as deleted. I'm a fishernan not a computer expert so how that is done, how you follow residual threads I have no idea.

But now I notice some more strange things from that same post:

I am sure I was not meant to have the received the post, it was giving details on how to informe on other mafia members so if I was one I would be extremely worried at the moment.
It also mentioned how to attack other members at night and how to kill them off.

1. If i-andre is mafia, why would he "inform" on other mafia members?
2. From the mafia.gg site that Razor posted, it appears that the informant role is passive, automatic, and only receives information. There should be no instructions necessary.
3. It appears that he's saying that Mafia is supposed to be worried about a mafia informant? What does this even mean?
4. What kind of instructions are needed for killing that aren't in your role description?
5. So now i-andre is going to kill other mafia members? I guess we want to keep him around then, right?

And now:

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

I'm not sure exactly what he's threatening, but I don't like the sound of it.
Vote halrob65

[actorday]

I've been quiet as I am also new to the game and have been observing . I believe as well it's time for a lynching. I have to say I'm leaning towards halrob65 as well unless he can answer the questions asked to him already.

[joshzam]

I've been quiet as I am also new to the game and have been observing . I believe as well it's time for a lynching. I have to say I'm leaning towards halrob65 as well unless he can answer the questions asked to him already.

I'm happy to hear you're observing and now up for lynching. Quiet blood lust. Nice. Keep in mind that a lynch will end the day and no one will be able to speak or share info, and others will surely die at night. With that in mind, do you (or anyone else!!) have any additional info to share that might help town before halrob gets hammered?

[TheJMac]

I have been reading the thread and keep meaning to jump in, if anyone follows along naturally to all the info you are a more capable person than I. I'll be posting my thoughts shortly. Thanks

[Dunk90]

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

I don't like threats. I don't feel safe with this guy around. VOTE LYNCH HALROB

[TheJMac]

Hi all, was reading the posts but couldn't find time to reply. I thought the night would bring a collective 1 killing from the Mafia. Maybe naive to the fact the tempo increased and people were just ready to bang bang come night time. My thoughts and observations in no particular order, it will read like a brain dump :

I don't think it's a coincidence that pershy, chanakam2020 and Maxleod are silenced. My feeling, like joshzam, is it relates to the cat meows. Chanakam2020 meowed x4 and Maxleod x1 (5total). Maybe a magic number, maybe not.

Maxleod's short post of "all I have to say is meow" seemed like they had to "get it in" for the day1. Raz tallied up posts and had Maxleod at 1 post total. To avoid sticking out he slid in a 2nd post under the wire that jumped on the halrob64 vote train, recycled popular opinion, added no value. Now he's silenced. No one would actively want to keep him quiet for the no value they were providing. Mafia.gg says cats are Mafia aligned and can silence others or themselves, I am suggesting Maxleod silenced themselves because it's easy and guarantees survival to the next round. Their signature is also a cat.

chanakam2020 - Did the meow thing and is also silenced now. Coordinated or not with the other 2 silenced people, chanakam2020 also chose to silence themselves or did a killing. My swiss cheese evidence on chanakam2020 is shaky. But asking pre-game about a potentially complicated role "And I think I understood ( Will PM Raz if things not clear when game is going, This is my first ever Mafia game" & wanting to clarify rules around if "* There can be only one doctor" (kill prevention), leads to believe they had a Mafia night action kill/silence ability. It would leave me with questions as a 1st timer too. I admittedly posted pre-game I had questions for Raz, so I understand how that looks. "What is the best way to lynch", referring to fellow town as "us" and aware of Maxleod's online whereabouts "Maxleod is frequently active in Global chat & I show him few Hrs ago at global chat", could maybe add to that theory. Knowing a doctor was mod-killed before night time could have given added comfort for moving ahead with their plans.

Pershy - purrred on Day 2 "TtzzzztTTTTTzzzzxxxxxxPrrrrrrr " after being silenced. A slip up perhaps? I'm more leaning towards that pershy was silenced by someone, as pershy was more informative than the other two, sharing the note they received etc. More active participants seem like the one that would be targeted for silence.


I have more thoughts, I'll post later. I have no idea how everyone combs through this info so quickly. It takes me forever to gather my thoughts.

[PepeAtila]

Well I know that 2 people who want to lynch me a are Mafia, i-andrei we know from being named in the missing email, and 1 other. I am monitoring who is wanting to Lynch me, you better hope you get ten because when the second night comes that's when my power comes in to play

I don't undertand ... if there are only 2 Mafia, and you threat them, they are going to agree to lynch you.
I will wait to see but if you are not lynched today, I hope to read about your powers tomorrow.