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[daydream]

so since flores and ace are cleared, that leaves me, cena and mandy as suspicious?
i believe i have explained my actions well enough.

some more input maybe? i'm not ready to vote for anyone yet.

[cena-rules]

Well Im sure I cleared myself last page. I dont get the case on mandy anyone wanna explain

[F1fth]

Well, people have said most of the things I had to say about the Flores wagon. I felt it was a more than a little strained. Ace got accused, made an unrefuted claim of a main character, Flores defended him, and the bandwagon got deflected onto her. I think people are just convincing themselves too easily of people's scumminess. Build up a case, don't base it off a shaky suspicion.

But all of that appears to be settled, and the more pressing matter at hand appears to be a Mr. Lorian. Mandy is not a poor player. His wild accusations, while sometimes seemingly ridiculous, are usually for smart reasons (whether he be scum or town) and are surprisingly accurate (when he is town). What bothers me more is that he quietly (keyword: quietly) backed down when town pushed his case. This makes me think he needs this lynch. I'd offer up being a lyncher as a possible explanation.

Nonetheless, it's enough to warrant a FOS his way.

But Mandy on the other hand has started up his "chase ace" thing again after my post. ANOTHER reversal of behavior. I'm not dead set on his lynch, but I think pursuing that avenue is our best option for now. Let's see how Mandy handles the pressure.

Vote Mr. Lorian

I always got the feeling people ignored my posts, but now I have evidence . Anyway, for the reasons explained above, as well as the fact that ace is almost certainly a townie, I decided to vote for him. Of course like I said I'm not dead-set on his lynch, but I think that pressuring him is appropriate. It's all fine and good if he wants to do his inquisition thing, but I think if he does than he deserves to get pressured like anyone else would. If Mandy was scum, don't you see how leaving him alone would be bad?

[FloresDelMal]

you were the one to claim a central role Day 1 for no reason, it seemed a scum tactic to me, still does. You can question my strategies all you want, but you are the one who outed yourself as having a pivital role for no reason, on DAY 1. I'll leave it there.

this never happened, i claimed to be a "MAIN CHARACTER" no more, no less, everything else is just you distorting and concluding, and "getting your knickers in a knot" seems a quite sexist remark to me, i dont see why you are not getting a warning; anyway i wont call you anything else than a jerk, so we should be fine from now on as long as you grad school intellect is actually put in good use.

the first thing i could think after reading it was wait... you accused at least 3 different people of being scum plus one of being a lyncher. how can that ever hold water?

Do you think there's only one scum in the game? Recently in another game I accused 3 people of being potential cult leader. Turns out one was, and the 2 others his cult buddies. So there

Indeed, with a game this size we should be looking for at least, at the very best 4 scums, maybe 5; and i dare to say at least 3 should be in my bandwagon; so its a good start as any for start to hunt scum.

Let's adress for the last time the logic, or lackthereof, behind Flores' case.
OMG Ace claimed a main character! He must be SCUM!
OMG Flores defends Ace saying she's a main character too! She must be SCUM!
OMG GT confirm Flores' mason claim! He must be SCUM!
Can anyone not Mandy care to tell me how this chain of naive reasoning is not retarded? No? Right.

if that kind of (Lack) of reasoning is not grasp for straws, then i dont know what is.

I already said that in a game with safe claims you can't conclude that someone is pro-Town based on a claim. In fact, maybe real Toph simply decided not to counter-claim because he doesn't want to reveal himself to the Mobsters. :idea:

I find this part of Mandy's unholdable position interesting and confirms my opinion of him as a likely lyncher. It sounds like he will counterclaim Toph if pressured, but forgot a little detail: if Sierra provides fakeclaims, do you think he would give one that can be countered?

I think what mandy tried to do here is besides spread madness and confusion as usual, was try to keep for himself the toph claim "allright guys, since i cant do anything else, ill have to go out of the closet, im toph, ace lied, do the right thing, handle me my lyncher win" my vote is on him still, and i have claimed before, i wish i could vote him again, first and prolly last time ever i wish i was double voter

I think we really really need to get rid of mandy, because he's dogging me so much its unbearable and make's me think he's a lyncher, and should be gotten rid of.unvote? vote mandy

This is an interesting claim. unvote vote Flores because 1) I believe that both she and Ace are scum (and no, I am not skimming Pancake. You are. I already said that in a game with safe claims you can't conclude that someone is pro-Town based on a claim. In fact, maybe real Toph simply decided not to counter-claim because he doesn't want to reveal himself to the Mobsters. ), 2) If Flores turns Scum, we will have a good case on Tonka for protecting her, 3) For reasons unknowable to me you guys are refusing to do the right thing and lynch Ace and i don't feel like arguing for 80 pages.

But a main character? No one's that evil. Except maybe you.

Mandy, you've been notably silent about this. Mind filling me in on how you feel on this or do I have to vote you?

here are a couple of the cases put against Mandy, in case everyone forgot, my vote, as is the vote of others, remains there; there is no new info; i think the best we can do is vote for mandy til he claims a credible deffense; or til he gets lynched.

[pancakemix]

Vote Mandy because the evidence is piling up and he STILL hasn't answered me.

[Thezzaruz]

I'm not sure that dd has explained that much really but the case against him was shaky to start with, so Unvote.



Regarding mandy. He showed up on my radar because of his posts when ace claimed, the last few comments only confirms that I'm not the only one that thinks he acts a bit strange so Vote mandy.

[Shadowstar]

I see what you guys are saying, and I'm beginning to notice it myself. Why beat down on a (most likely) confirmed townie? It doesn't make much sense to me...

Unvote Vote Mandy. At the very least, it's the best lead we have so far.

[Minister Masket]

I'm not too sure it's the right decision, but we do have a deadline.

Unvote
Vote Mandy

[Thezzaruz]

I'm not too sure it's the right decision, but we do have a deadline.

It's many days away still though. But some response from mandy would is needed to stop the lynch.

[ace1217]

I'm hoping this isn't a win for mandy. The only reason I can think of for him to play so badly is that he's a jester, but I can't think of what character that would be.

[william18]

Vote Mandy

I don't think this is a very good lead, but atleast we get some more light on the situation.

[gimpyThewonder]

can we get a vote count please? i'd hate to see someone voted off w/out responding

[Thezzaruz]

can we get a vote count please? i'd hate to see someone voted off w/out responding

Yea that would be good, though I think he's at L-2.

[mandalorian2298]

Just a couple of farewell notes from me (I feel like Richard Nixon right now):

1. Lynching me is going to work out great since I am a) Vanilla and b) I'm switching Internet providers so I might end up netless for a few days. Since there is a deadline in place: Lynch away!

2. unvote Ace. Topher is like a totally crucial character! What were you guys thinking voting for him?!

3. Yeah, I have been skimming a bit, but that doesn't matter now (and I don't feel like I owe an apology to a mob which is getting ready to lynch me ).

4. After you have read my innocence from the greenness of my corpse, please think about the following for a second:

seriously ace, come on. even i saw it was a joke, and this is my first game on this forum. to me that however proves pretty clearly that ace is town... maybe not so bright, but town.

unvote vote ace

time for a claim methinks?

First Daydream decides that ace is a proven townie, and then he pressures him to claim? Scummy. Add to it all the vote-hopping and bandwagoning and you get the most suspicious character so far. Also, he is no n00b, since he played on Mafiascum before coming here. In conclusion: Cop/Vig, do your thing.

P.S. Ace and Flores, in case you two really aren't scum, I guess I have hounded you throughout Day 1 for no reason. If you are feeling striken by this, I think that, after Sherwood mafia had finished, Aegnor and Selin have started a support group for helping those wrongly hounded by me. Go forth and heal (and steal some cookies for the rest of us ).

Go Town.

[Sierra_Leon]

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Vote count

mandalorian2298 - 9 (FloresDelMal, ace1217, F1fth, ga7, pancakemix, Thezzaruz, Shadowstar, Minister Masket, william18)
FloresDelMal - 2 (Fircoal, jnd94)
cena-rules - 1 (nagerous)
ace1217 - 1 (militant)

Not voting: got tonkaed, Skoffin, kwanton, cena-rules, daydream, gimpyThewonder, mandalorian2298

With 20 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch.

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[cena-rules]

wanna give a name mandy?

[Minister Masket]

Unvote
I can believe that claim.

[ga7]

Not even a name?

[FloresDelMal]

Unvote
I can believe that claim.

i beliaved his "vanilla no name" claim in godfather, it costed the game to town.

[FloresDelMal]

FOS Masket for unvote with so little reason

[got tonkaed]

ill vote if he doesnt show up with a name in fairly short order. Its not that i dont entirely believe him, but theres no reason not to supply the name in this case.

[daydream]

Just a couple of farewell notes from me (I feel like Richard Nixon right now):

1. Lynching me is going to work out great since I am a) Vanilla and b) I'm switching Internet providers so I might end up netless for a few days. Since there is a deadline in place: Lynch away!

2. unvote Ace. Topher is like a totally crucial character! What were you guys thinking voting for him?!

3. Yeah, I have been skimming a bit, but that doesn't matter now (and I don't feel like I owe an apology to a mob which is getting ready to lynch me ).

4. After you have read my innocence from the greenness of my corpse, please think about the following for a second:

seriously ace, come on. even i saw it was a joke, and this is my first game on this forum. to me that however proves pretty clearly that ace is town... maybe not so bright, but town.

unvote vote ace

time for a claim methinks?

First Daydream decides that ace is a proven townie, and then he pressures him to claim? Scummy. Add to it all the vote-hopping and bandwagoning and you get the most suspicious character so far. Also, he is no n00b, since he played on Mafiascum before coming here. In conclusion: Cop/Vig, do your thing.

P.S. Ace and Flores, in case you two really aren't scum, I guess I have hounded you throughout Day 1 for no reason. If you are feeling striken by this, I think that, after Sherwood mafia had finished, Aegnor and Selin have started a support group for helping those wrongly hounded by me. Go forth and heal (and steal some cookies for the rest of us ).

Go Town.

funny, because i pointed out exactly that myself earlier. skimming much?

[cena-rules]

Just a couple of farewell notes from me (I feel like Richard Nixon right now):

1. Lynching me is going to work out great since I am a) Vanilla and b) I'm switching Internet providers so I might end up netless for a few days. Since there is a deadline in place: Lynch away!

2. unvote Ace. Topher is like a totally crucial character! What were you guys thinking voting for him?!

3. Yeah, I have been skimming a bit, but that doesn't matter now (and I don't feel like I owe an apology to a mob which is getting ready to lynch me ).

4. After you have read my innocence from the greenness of my corpse, please think about the following for a second:

seriously ace, come on. even i saw it was a joke, and this is my first game on this forum. to me that however proves pretty clearly that ace is town... maybe not so bright, but town.

unvote vote ace

time for a claim methinks?

First Daydream decides that ace is a proven townie, and then he pressures him to claim? Scummy. Add to it all the vote-hopping and bandwagoning and you get the most suspicious character so far. Also, he is no n00b, since he played on Mafiascum before coming here. In conclusion: Cop/Vig, do your thing.

P.S. Ace and Flores, in case you two really aren't scum, I guess I have hounded you throughout Day 1 for no reason. If you are feeling striken by this, I think that, after Sherwood mafia had finished, Aegnor and Selin have started a support group for helping those wrongly hounded by me. Go forth and heal (and steal some cookies for the rest of us ).

Go Town.

funny, because i pointed out exactly that myself earlier. skimming much?

look at point 3

skimming much

[mandalorian2298]

wanna give a name mandy?

Nope. I am honestly cool with being lynched and it's much simpler then convincing you guys in my innocence. As long as someone takes my advice and investigates Daydream (btw, did anyone wander why would someone who isn't trying to avoid attention insist on having his name written without a capital 'D'? ) we're five-by-five, as one of my all-time favorite TV characters is fond of saying. I know that he responded and I really haven't believed him, so investigate him and, if he turns out pro-Town, you can lynch me again tomorrow .

Now, could someone please finish this of and vote for me before Flores angers herself into a stroke ?

[cena-rules]

WHATEVER even if hes jester lets try and get some leads tonight


vote mandy