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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:34 am

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lol ya i thought it was a little on the dark side but im a comedian ..being dirty and dark is my job


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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:59 am

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jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby kratos644 on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:52 am

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jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke

What is not to believe about the joke. He had no pressure to actually claim his role yet but claimed "Spearow, Town Miller." That's the joke, in addition to it being the role he had in the first Pokemon mafia but also it is a rather quick claim just like was done in the first mafia. The only possible way it could've not been a joke would've been if he was planning on falling back on it and saying "look I already claimed miller way back before being pressured which with the odds of having a miller in the game again, the miller being freezie again, and the character yet again being Spearow. Even if all that were true I doubt anyone would believe freezie and he'd be lynched. So how could that be anything but a joke? It has no possibilities to fall back on later.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby pmchugh on Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:12 pm

zimmah wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:37 pm

pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby pmchugh on Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:10 pm

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:44 pm

Vote Count
Haggis (1) - pcm
strike (1) - Fircoal
freezie (1) - zimmah
jonty (1) - , cm5
shield (2) - kratos, pmchugh
nag (0) -
zimmah(2) - Victor, jonty
clever (1) - freezie
Tails (0) -

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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby freezie on Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:50 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Excuse my impatience, but I'm not so sure talking about it more will get us much of anywhere unless someone claims. If we lynch anyone Day 1, it's essentially for the sake of lynching anyway, as Day 1 cases are always weak - zimmah's tactics could be scummy, they could be a mistake or the result of a hard-headed townie or something - no one really knows. I think everyone's been arguing just for the sake of arguing.

And freezie, come on, I am 99% sure we are not dealing with a lyncher. Everyone suspects lynchers in games, but lynchers are rare (and generally not that stupid).

-Sully



So, if we're going to lynch for the sake of lynching, I'll Vote: Victor Sullivan foir the sake of lynching, y'know.

As for the lyncher...You're right. However, He has nothing to gain by going full ahead on me for no reason. Lyncher or scum wouldn't be that stupid, however, why would he do it as town?

It has WIFOM written all over the thing, so much that I have to come down to conclusions that may not appear like a possibility. I still beleive him to be more likely a lyncher than scum, and more likely town that scum.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:57 pm

zimmah wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:was zimmah here for DoomYoshi's first pokemon mafia? I don't remember. If he wasn't then he might not have gotten the joke and would have thought freezie was serious.


i do get the joke, i wasn't in the first one but i did read it. fact remains that joke or not, freezie did contradict himself.




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jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


i would assume if you get a joke you believe it?
vote zimmah was pretty suspicious of him anyway but that sends me over the edge
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:11 pm

jeez...let me know when you guys are done...I cant beleive were still on the stupid joke thing.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby freezie on Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:13 pm

Unvote

Vote: Victor Sullivan


forgot to unvote.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby strike wolf on Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:31 pm

zimmah wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Ok, anyone who hasn't posted since Thursday or so has been prodded.

List:
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Haggis
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Tails
kratos

Iron Butterfly hasn't posted since Saturday but did mention he would have internet problems.


hey everyone im sorry for being inactive
it was posted today that i wouldnt be on today but i found the strength to get to my computer(cant wait till i order my laptop sometime this week)
ill read up and post my thoughts


hey guys sorry i got really sick again last night and am still sick so bear with me. i strongly stick to my original belief on zimmah. and someone has already pointed out he is "bull-headed" in the way that he doesnt seem to want to change his mind when he has already said he knew it was a joke. i believe its better than the other cases, i would be up for a lynch on zimmah if we dont get anymore info on someone else.



wouldn't a lynch on me be about as justified as a lynch on freezie?


Umm no. It would be more justified. there's actually reason to believe you could be scum and not just a joke claim that was blown out of proportion.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:25 am

pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.


you're wrong, you insist that i insist and therefore you're skimming.

unvote vote pmchugh.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:29 am

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.


you're wrong, you insist that i insist and therefore you're skimming.

unvote vote pmchugh.



Dude, you did insist on beleive that I wasn'T joking. He is right, you're wrong
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:30 am

pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.



messed-up the quotes in the post above. anyway, i vote pmchugh fo skimming, because he's the one bringing back a topic that i have considered 'done' allready a few posts ago and he's blaming it on me.

Iron Butterfly wrote:jeez...let me know when you guys are done...I cant beleive were still on the stupid joke thing.
also, this

and i want to point out once again that just because you know something was supposed to be a joke doesn't mean it's not a lie. a lie can be covered as a joke.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:32 am

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Dude, you did insist on beleive that I wasn'T joking. He is right, you're wrong



i'm entitled to my own opinion but i have already stated more then once that we'd be better of pursuing other leads, but no one makes any, so you're all trying to blame me for not bringing up cases, while fact is that i'm the only one bringing up any case, however weak it may be.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:35 am

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.



messed-up the quotes in the post above. anyway, i vote pmchugh fo skimming, because he's the one bringing back a topic that i have considered 'done' allready a few posts ago and he's blaming it on me.

Iron Butterfly wrote:jeez...let me know when you guys are done...I cant beleive were still on the stupid joke thing.
also, this

and i want to point out once again that just because you know something was supposed to be a joke doesn't mean it's not a lie. a lie can be covered as a joke.


Except that's a very good reason to get lynched later if you point back to it.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:48 am

just why are you and pcm still discussing this ancient topic, just to try and keep the discussion on me? that's quite fishy.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:56 am

zimmah wrote:just why are you and pcm still discussing this ancient topic, just to try and keep the discussion on me? that's quite fishy.



Because you talked about it. I am trying to build something on victor if you couldn't figure it out.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby jonty125 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:54 am

My position on zimmah hasn't changed, and I don't see as much on VS.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:57 am

freezie wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Excuse my impatience, but I'm not so sure talking about it more will get us much of anywhere unless someone claims. If we lynch anyone Day 1, it's essentially for the sake of lynching anyway, as Day 1 cases are always weak - zimmah's tactics could be scummy, they could be a mistake or the result of a hard-headed townie or something - no one really knows. I think everyone's been arguing just for the sake of arguing.

And freezie, come on, I am 99% sure we are not dealing with a lyncher. Everyone suspects lynchers in games, but lynchers are rare (and generally not that stupid).

-Sully



So, if we're going to lynch for the sake of lynching, I'll Vote: Victor Sullivan foir the sake of lynching, y'know.

Gee, didn't see that coming :roll:

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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby nagerous on Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:26 am

The zimmah freezie thing is one of the most boring things I have ever seen in a mafia game... I am starting to think they might even be quarrelling scum buddies trying to create some form of diversion for later in the game.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:37 am

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
zimmah wrote:
i never said i believed the joke


This is what I mean, the vote is just symbolic of the fact you have not retracted your opinion. Bull-headed indeed.


so just because you say i should retract my vote i should? no way, i retract my vote whenever i feel the need, and that is not now.


f*ck the vote, it doesn't matter. The point is you still insist he wasn't joking.



messed-up the quotes in the post above. anyway, i vote pmchugh fo skimming, because he's the one bringing back a topic that i have considered 'done' allready a few posts ago and he's blaming it on me.
Iron Butterfly wrote:jeez...let me know when you guys are done...I cant beleive were still on the stupid joke thing.
also, this

and i want to point out once again that just because you know something was supposed to be a joke doesn't mean it's not a lie. a lie can be covered as a joke.


1.) i am pretty sure im the one who brought it back not pmc(dont want a wrongful vote on someone)
2.) the topic is NEVER done till your 100% cleared and your not even near being cleared
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shieldgenerator7 wrote:was zimmah here for DoomYoshi's first pokemon mafia? I don't remember. If he wasn't then he might not have gotten the joke and would have thought freezie was serious.


i do get the joke, i wasn't in the first one but i did read it. fact remains that joke or not, freezie did contradict himself.




zimmah wrote:
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jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


i would assume if you get a joke you believe it?
vote zimmah was pretty suspicious of him anyway but that sends me over the edge


3.) and in my last post you pretty much contradicted yourself ...wait a minute

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shieldgenerator7 wrote:was zimmah here for DoomYoshi's first pokemon mafia? I don't remember. If he wasn't then he might not have gotten the joke and would have thought freezie was serious.


i do get the joke, i wasn't in the first one but i did read it. fact remains that joke or not, freezie did contradict himself.


so your case is that he contradicted himself on a JOKE and you contradicted yourself while being completely serious..in my eyes that is scummier than his contradicting JOKE
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby zimmah on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:26 am

not sure how i contradict myself but i have said often enough that 'm done with this discussion but there's several people continuesly bringing it up. so just shut up about it and get a new case or lynch me allready because this is bullsht.
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Re: PKMN Chap 2: Day 1 (18/18)

Postby pmchugh on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:29 am

zimmah wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Zimmah, do you have any reason not to believe freezie was joking?


thats the point though. he has said he believes he was joking , yet he still goes for this case.


i never said i believed the joke


I may have misread this, please clarify. Did you mean, "I never believed he was joking" or "I never believed what he was saying was genuinely true"?
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