CYOC Mafia [7/15] Game Over! [Archive]

[Yomiel]

I've never heard of anything like that, either. I have claimed as much as I can. I've given my role, my character, said why I chose it, my alignment, my powers... That's all I've got.

[Yomiel]

I asked the host as much as I could about my role, but lynching seems like the best way to assure I don't hurt the Town. Odds are a Town member will be lynched, so it's safest to make it me. At most, at least three people could end up dead otherwise. Maybe even four, if there is a vigilante role out there.

[jonty125]

At most, at least three people could end up dead otherwise. Maybe even four, if there is a vigilante role out there.

Since I was struggling.

I can't see how we get three deaths tonight.

Death #1 - Mafia
Death #2 - You (if you are telling the truth; which I doubt)
Death #3 - ???
Death #4 - vig (shouldn't be shooting N1)

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There's always a possibility of a roleblocker, that would solve the problem, wouldn't it?
Oh yeah jonty, nothing like some good soul music at a picnic.

[jonty125]

There's always a possibility of a roleblocker, that would solve the problem, wouldn't it?
Oh yeah jonty, nothing like some good soul music at a picnic.

And now that ain't right. It's OK.

That doesn't explain a 3rd kill, do you mean SK?

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My post had nothing to do with the four kills comment, I meant if yomiel was roleblocked the death would not occur, right?

and the four kills with a vig probably mean

lynch kills someone
Yomiel bombs someone
Mafia kills someone
Vig kills someone

[DoomYoshi]

@mod: You stated there was a reason you wanted roles kept secret. What is the reason?

@yomiel: we're not going to lynch you. Period. Now tell us who the obvious mafia are. I am not in NCIS so perhaps you can explain what you don't want repeated.

[vodean]

My post had nothing to do with the four kills comment, I meant if yomiel was roleblocked the death would not occur, right?

and the four kills with a vig probably mean

lynch kills someone
Yomiel bombs someone
Mafia kills someone
Vig kills someone

yomiel said he might kill himself as well... which is what he wants, but...

yomiel, it is random alignment, but that means there is a 1/3 chance of you being scum (1/15 plus me who i can confirm as town). there could be as many as 5 mafia.

doom, in NCIS, everyone got pissed at yomiel for telling us that everything we did was wrong, and that his playing style was superior. but lets please not talk about it since we wasted 30 pages and then lynched him, when he was town. i dont want something similar to happen here, especially since it is dangerous to lynch him

[spiesr]

My post had nothing to do with the four kills comment, I meant if yomiel was roleblocked the death would not occur, right?

He has claimed that the bomb related kill would happen at the end of the day phase rather than during the night. So, I don't think a roleblocker would have any effect. (Unless there is a day-roleblocker, which would just be weird.)
On Yomiel, does anyone else find the idea of not lynching a player because they were lying a little weird? Anyhow, if we go with the theory that lynching Yomiel will make him more powerful, then isn't that only a bad thing if he is scum? On the other hand, if Yomiel is that sort of role and is town then why would he lie about it? Why not just tell us what he is and ask us to lynch him? Theat sort of lying what make me lean towards him being scum, but that doesn't really make much sense either. If we lynch him and he doesn't die/stay dead then we would probably deduce that he was lying about his role. (Or maybe we think he got revived/saved or something.) Either way, it seems like we would then try to kill him again somehow. (Either because we think he is lying, or we think he is telling the truth and still needs to be killed.) So, the way I see it unless he is completely death proof (unlikely) or somehow able to do stuff while actually dead, then lying like this theory says he is would completely screw him over. So, uhh?

[Yomiel]

That is NOT true. I never said any such thing. What really happened, is that they wanted to spend a few days just joking around and blew me off for wanting to play seriously from the start. THAT was what started it. I never insulted them about that or said I was superior. If I say anyone happens to be Mafia, experience tells me they will start trouble. They will say it's just a grudge if it's anyone from that thread or that it's stupid if it's anyone else.

Aside from the lynch, my kill, the Mafia kill, and a possible vigilante kill, there's the possibility that I will die as well. Things could really go badly today.

I don't know if my role can be blocked, as I don't know how that ability usually works here. I had asked the host if there was a way to interfere with my abilities, since I wanted to live, but he would not answer. Don't most role-blocking abilities only work at Night?

I still strongly suggest lynching me.

[Yomiel]

And Spiesr, if that's what you think, why don't you vote me? Aren't you one of the only people who has never voted me?

[safariguy5]

Your argument about it being way too obvious to pick Yomiel is WIFOM. I still think it's awfully jesterish to have a townie unable to control their kills. It still sounds more third partyish to me, but I figure a third party lynch is better than a town lynch.

[spiesr]

And Spiesr, if that's what you think, why don't you vote me? Aren't you one of the only people who has never voted me?

Why am I not voting for you at the moment?
Because I am considering the theory that lynching you could be detrimental to the town.
Why haven't I voted for you previously?
For a while I was still trying to decide if you would actually be more valuable alive than dead. After that I was waiting to hammer you.
Also, in general I am conservative with casting my vote. Unlike someone like Hippo, I don't like to move it around a lot and usually wait until I am pretty sure I want to commit to a specific lynch before placing my vote.
Why were you in such a rush earlier to get lynched with as little time/discussion as possible?

[Yomiel]

Why would a bomb be able to choose their kills? I think THAT would be a little weird. But go ahead and lynch me. Both you and Spiers have come up with good reasons, though I really am Town.

I'm in a rush to get lynched because it's better for the Town, and why wait? And I don't buy you were waiting to hammer me. You were online when I only needed one more vote, and I even asked you if you wanted to do it.

[spiesr]

I still think it's awfully jesterish to have a townie unable to control their kills. It still sounds more third partyish to me, but I figure a third party lynch is better than a town lynch.

Is third-party is an option in this game? I don't think it said anywhere that is wasn't, but it doesn't seem that likely to me. Also, since role is independent of alignment, I don't see how this bit works.

Why would a bomb be able to choose their kills?

Well since your claimed role doesn't meet details of the role commonly known as "bomb," the question is perhaps better phrased as "Why would a bomb-themed role be able to choose their kills?" The best answer to that which I have is "Why not?"

I'm in a rush to get lynched because it's better for the Town, and why wait?

The primary benefit to waiting would to to generate more discussion, so that we can have something to go off of tomorrow in the event that we don't come up with any useful results.

And I don't buy you were waiting to hammer me. You were online when I only needed one more vote, and I even asked you if you wanted to do it.

Was this after I decided that I would hammer, or before?

[vodean]

Why would a bomb be able to choose their kills? I think THAT would be a little weird. But go ahead and lynch me. Both you and Spiers have come up with good reasons, though I really am Town.

I'm in a rush to get lynched because it's better for the Town, and why wait? And I don't buy you were waiting to hammer me. You were online when I only needed one more vote, and I even asked you if you wanted to do it.

look. we arent going to lynch you. who do you think is mafia? im all ears. if you present a decent case, im happy to roll with it.

[Yomiel]

Yeah, I also think there is only the Town and the Mafia. That should be enough to prove I'm Town. The Mafia always seeks to outnumber the Town, so no way would one of them be trying to get themselves killed off. In that case, my power would be helpful, instead of a hindrance. My role makes more sense as a Mafia one, but this is the alignment I got.

Bombs blow up. It's not controlled by the bomb. That's my best guess as to why I can't choose my targets.

Waiting would result in a death, and then you'd just have to lynch me tomorrow anyway.

I honestly don't recall you saying you would hammer at all, so I can't say.

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You know, I could have sworn Pancake has actually put this role in his last game, Memebase, "Insanity Wolf", it was mafia back then, but could kill anyone, and he thought he was vanilla goon though, that could make the claim more plausible.

[Yomiel]

So...I'm Mafia but don't know it?O_o

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No, he was mafia with me but thought he was a vanilla goon, in reality he killed random people, luckilly the PGO killed him and a whole bunch of others before he started hitting our own faction.
most of that is irrelevent, I'm just noting pancake has used random killing roles in the past.

[Yomiel]

Does this mean you believe me?;-;

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The flavor is still odd, but I'm leaning towards "yes".
Are you certain you want to be lynched rather than having fun playing the odds?

[Yomiel]

Yes. The odds are, frankly, that i will kill more Town than Mafia.

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Well I trust Pancake as one of the few mods who knows exactly how NOT to ever break a game.

Lying or not, it's probably better to get it over with now, so scum can't hide among the confusion tomorrow.
Vote Yomiel

oh, I ate too much at this picnic

[shieldgenerator7]

Well it's very noble of yomiel to try and do what's best for town instead of just trying to survive,
( if he is what he says he is )