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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby / on Thu May 10, 2012 10:07 pm

XenHu wrote:What's he going to do? Prod everyone?

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Was that supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question? Because that is in fact the easiest way to send prods. :P
I also find it interesting that you chose that post to rebute, rather than offering a counter-rebuttal to my more important post.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Thu May 10, 2012 10:09 pm

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XenHu wrote:What's he going to do? Prod everyone?

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Was that supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question? Because that is in fact the easiest way to send prods. :P
I also find it interesting that you chose that post to rebute, rather than offering a counter-rebuttal to my more important post.


Well I prefer poking with a very sharp blade to get their attention ;)
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby XenHu on Thu May 10, 2012 10:40 pm

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XenHu wrote:What's he going to do? Prod everyone?

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Was that supposed to be a sarcastic rhetorical question? Because that is in fact the easiest way to send prods. :P
I also find it interesting that you chose that post to rebute, rather than offering a counter-rebuttal to my more important post.


I don't really have anything to say in regards to your 'more important post'.

/ wrote: I am chiding players not for discussion, but for fence sitting and running down the clock. See what newguy did as a scum move? Fine, vote. See what newguy did as a simple mistake? Fine, defend him. There is no grey "eh it could be A, it could be B, I really can't decide..." That's called not helping, it's posting to show people you post, rather than posting for the sake of hunting scum


That's an opinion....

/ wrote:And thanks for cutting off the part where I noted the jak-wagon (lol pun) had some logical points


And so is that. I don't want to split hairs over opinions. We all saw how that ended up.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby / on Thu May 10, 2012 11:51 pm

new guy1 wrote:Well I prefer poking with a very sharp blade to get their attention ;)

not helpful, entertaining, but not helpful. :-s
still pushing that clever case for "stealing his master's signature" 15 pages ago? LFOS Large Finger of suspicion

To xenhu, that's your opinion that it's not worth splitting hairs, but whatever.
I notice once again a very large piece has been conspicuously left out, like you drank a potion of "weakness to fire" and are afraid to get burned, it makes it very easy to see which arguments hurt. :D
Conveniently, the part where I called you out for defending Iron without at all understanding his post, is missing from your counter, why is that? As you claim he, quote; "He's just re-iterating what I already said" And it seems that it upset you that he was FOSed, as it seemed to make up a decent part of your case against me, is iron right?

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Do you think it's A OK for us to speculate on what the town doc and town watcher will do tonight?


Hmm, I think there are some decent cases to fall back on lined up, edoc can probably be linked to newguy for declaring newguy is town, Xenhu can probably be linked to Iron for defending his post on a knee jerk reaction, and I'll have to look back to connect the dots with jak, now with four days left I again implore town to decide on something lest we rush lynches without being able to A: contemplate claims and B: being able to fall back on other cases!

@ Mod; is an extension possible?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri May 11, 2012 1:03 am

Perhaps. I don't like doing that, though.

I'll send out a mass prod.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby XenHu on Fri May 11, 2012 2:14 am

/ wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Well I prefer poking with a very sharp blade to get their attention ;)

not helpful, entertaining, but not helpful. :-s
still pushing that clever case for "stealing his master's signature" 15 pages ago? LFOS Large Finger of suspicion

To xenhu, that's your opinion that it's not worth splitting hairs, but whatever.
I notice once again a very large piece has been conspicuously left out, like you drank a potion of "weakness to fire" and are afraid to get burned, it makes it very easy to see which arguments hurt. :D
Conveniently, the part where I called you out for defending Iron without at all understanding his post, is missing from your counter, why is that?
As you claim he, quote; "He's just re-iterating what I already said" And it seems that it upset you that he was FOSed, as it seemed to make up a decent part of your case against me, is iron right?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I said nothing wrong.


Do you think it's A OK for us to speculate on what the town doc and town watcher will do tonight?


Hmm, I think there are some decent cases to fall back on lined up, edoc can probably be linked to newguy for declaring newguy is town, Xenhu can probably be linked to Iron for defending his post on a knee jerk reaction, and I'll have to look back to connect the dots with jak, now with four days left I again implore town to decide on something lest we rush lynches without being able to A: contemplate claims and B: being able to fall back on other cases!

@ Mod; is an extension possible?


Oh for the love of God! It's not quoted because it isn't relevant to my post! If people need to see what I've said they can go back and read it. By your logic, every time I post I should quote everything that was said prior! The post will be huge then, and frankly that makes it a pain in the ass to read/write. If people need to find something, they can go find it. I'm sure you're going to try and make it sound like I now support 'burying the truth' or whatever you want to call it, and frankly I don't care. I don't support lazy play, or sloppy posts. And I'm most certainly not going to post a specific way just to satisfy one person. If I get lynched for having standards, good. As I said before, that wasn't a counter, as there isn't anything to counter in the first place.

I understood his post just fine. Speculation on the moves of power-roles/mafia is not suspicious behavior. The end. There's nothing 'knee-jerk' about what I said at all.

If arguing over the meaning of common words in the English language is a common tactic and the editing/omitting of quotes for the sake of clarity is considered 'suspicious' in the average mafia player's mind these days, I'm almost wishing something will just mercy-kill me during the night.

You're not making any sense. For one, you say we should link edoc to newguy for declaring newguy is town? Oh hey, newguy is town! Are you going to 'link' me to him to? That's just stupid.

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It was just a bad move, and one that is unlikely to be repeated.


Calling meta is normal if you've played with someone enough. I don't find this scummy. I would if he'd be pushing others to move away from newguy, but he's not. And if you notice, he just said he wasn't scum. Ooooo, what could that mean? He never explicitly mentions newguy being town, must have been a slip! :roll:


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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby / on Fri May 11, 2012 3:01 am

The reason I called you on not mentioning the part in question, was because it was a question. If one is asked a question then it is always relevant to answer it.

/ wrote:Did you read his post, or just mine? You want to talk about mafia, do so all you want, we have flavor to go on, this is a theme game, what Iron did was not that, if you had read it one bit, what he was doing was speculation on weather or not the town doc or town watcher was going to use their ability on newguy, are you saying everyone knowing the pitfalls the mafia needs to avoid in advance will help town?

see, question marks.

And on the edoc thing, "linked" was not the right word, but there are derivative possibilities to put into context.
if newguy is scum and edoc is scum, there is a slight but admittedly unlikely possibility that edoc posted his suspicion before remembering they were on the same side, then hastily backtracked and said he was town, not wanting pressure to build, this has actually happened to me once as scum when not paying attention enough...
If newguy is town, it is possible that edoc's motive was originally to appear active, he put forward a case on newguy, then realizing he didn't want to be implicated on what he believed to be a shoddy case, he announced newguy was not mafia, a Freudian slip of assurance from knowing who mafia actually is.

I know, it's impossible to know for certain, but those are my typical paranoid day one gut feelings.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Fri May 11, 2012 9:36 am

We aren't going to get a legitimate case and lynch before deadline

From his last game.
2012-01-10 00:37:04 - LSU Tiger Josh was kicked out for missing too many turns


LSU is AWOL again, I propose we hang him/force a replace. It beats sitting here looking at each other stupidly. If nothing else it will help activity d2.

Unvote vote LSU
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby jonty125 on Fri May 11, 2012 9:39 am

edocsil wrote:We aren't going to get a legitimate case and lynch before deadline

From his last game.
2012-01-10 00:37:04 - LSU Tiger Josh was kicked out for missing too many turns


LSU is AWOL again, I propose we hang him/force a replace. It beats sitting here looking at each other stupidly. If nothing else it will help activity d2.

Unvote vote LSU


I think a replace would be best.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Fri May 11, 2012 9:44 am

jonty125 wrote:
edocsil wrote:We aren't going to get a legitimate case and lynch before deadline

From his last game.
2012-01-10 00:37:04 - LSU Tiger Josh was kicked out for missing too many turns


LSU is AWOL again, I propose we hang him/force a replace. It beats sitting here looking at each other stupidly. If nothing else it will help activity d2.

Unvote vote LSU


I think a replace would be best.


No shit? Still, pressure forces the mod to make a decision rather then say, "Well, I suppose I'll prod him....."
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri May 11, 2012 12:50 pm

I asked Ragian if he wants to replace LSU. If he doesn't, who else eould you recommend? (This goes to everyone)

I'll also have a vote count up quickly.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri May 11, 2012 12:54 pm

Vote Count 5

Clever: 1 (new guy)
jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, jonty, /)
new guy: 1 (dazza)
kager: 1 (nagerous)
cowboyz: 1 (jak)
jonty: 1 (clever)
/ : 1 (Xenhu)
LSU Tiger Josh: 1 (edocsil)
Not Voting: 7 (Leehar, IB, LSU, sound, CMS, kager, ghost)


With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th, barring an extension.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby jak111 on Fri May 11, 2012 2:19 pm

Unvote, Vote LSU

Cowboyz I can't do much with until tomorrow, hopefully more is founded on him. But for today with mere real life days left I think an inactive would be nice to get out of the picture so the ones who are left are at least talking actively.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Fri May 11, 2012 2:25 pm

Responding to the prod. I dont really like lynching inactives... Just doesnt go well with me... but then again, it has led to lynching the GF D1...
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri May 11, 2012 2:27 pm

If I find a replacement for Josh, there will be an extended deadline.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby pancakemix on Fri May 11, 2012 2:28 pm

edocsil wrote:We aren't going to get a legitimate case and lynch before deadline

From his last game.
2012-01-10 00:37:04 - LSU Tiger Josh was kicked out for missing too many turns


LSU is AWOL again, I propose we hang him/force a replace. It beats sitting here looking at each other stupidly. If nothing else it will help activity d2.

Unvote vote LSU


That's from January...

Anyway, I stand by my vote. Lynching someone who might not come back is probably more of a crapshoot than lynching someone who has acted scummy.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri May 11, 2012 2:51 pm

/ wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Well I prefer poking with a very sharp blade to get their attention ;)

not helpful, entertaining, but not helpful. :-s
still pushing that clever case for "stealing his master's signature" 15 pages ago? LFOS Large Finger of suspicion

To xenhu, that's your opinion that it's not worth splitting hairs, but whatever.
I notice once again a very large piece has been conspicuously left out, like you drank a potion of "weakness to fire" and are afraid to get burned, it makes it very easy to see which arguments hurt. :D
Conveniently, the part where I called you out for defending Iron without at all understanding his post, is missing from your counter, why is that? As you claim he, quote; "He's just re-iterating what I already said" And it seems that it upset you that he was FOSed, as it seemed to make up a decent part of your case against me, is iron right?

Iron Butterfly wrote: I said nothing wrong.


Do you think it's A OK for us to speculate on what the town doc and town watcher will do tonight?


Hmm, I think there are some decent cases to fall back on lined up, edoc can probably be linked to newguy for declaring newguy is town, Xenhu can probably be linked to Iron for defending his post on a knee jerk reaction, and I'll have to look back to connect the dots with jak, now with four days left I again implore town to decide on something lest we rush lynches without being able to A: contemplate claims and B: being able to fall back on other cases!

@ Mod; is an extension possible?


Yes I do think it is OK. It makes mafia think twice. What ever answer you or I choose it will be a big WIFOM so there is no wrong answer.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Fri May 11, 2012 3:49 pm

pancakemix wrote:
edocsil wrote:We aren't going to get a legitimate case and lynch before deadline

From his last game.
2012-01-10 00:37:04 - LSU Tiger Josh was kicked out for missing too many turns


LSU is AWOL again, I propose we hang him/force a replace. It beats sitting here looking at each other stupidly. If nothing else it will help activity d2.

Unvote vote LSU


That's from January...

Anyway, I stand by my vote. Lynching someone who might not come back is probably more of a crapshoot than lynching someone who has acted scummy.


What I was saying was that he is no longer active on the site for risk so if he is absent here too don't expect him to show himself any time soon.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby pancakemix on Fri May 11, 2012 4:22 pm

Either way, you could have looked at his most recent posts and found this
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby Leehar on Fri May 11, 2012 5:05 pm

o.O
Pretty badly caught out there Edoc
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby soundman on Fri May 11, 2012 7:07 pm

Vote Kager. He's posted nothing but fluff and has been missing for a while.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby cowboyz on Fri May 11, 2012 8:25 pm

I got prodded. This feels awkward. I am full of rage, shame, disgust, confusion...
I read all since my last post and seems like just more jibberish.
I don't see anything wrong with IB playing out possible mafia actions based on what NG1 mentioned. Just logical.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri May 11, 2012 8:54 pm

I found someone willing to replace LSU, although PCM reminded me that he said his internet will probably be fixed on Monday. Do you want to wait for him or should I replace him now?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby jak111 on Fri May 11, 2012 9:16 pm

everywhere116 wrote:I found someone willing to replace LSU, although PCM reminded me that he said his internet will probably be fixed on Monday. Do you want to wait for him or should I replace him now?


Wait, give him till late tomorrow night, see if he can get back on.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby XenHu on Fri May 11, 2012 9:21 pm

cowboyz wrote:I got prodded. This feels awkward. I am full of rage, shame, disgust, confusion...
I read all since my last post and seems like just more jibberish.
I don't see anything wrong with IB playing out possible mafia actions based on what NG1 mentioned. Just logical.

How bout a mass BW?
We need to get something goin


*points to Jak*

Bandwagon's that a-way.

Hop on if you must. I certainly won't be sad to see him go. ;p

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